Forgive my student loan!

I think it makes more sense to give money to help people pay down their loans then to give money to people who choose not to work Why does an educated person have to suffer when a person who chose not to go to school, have 5 kids, and not work get every kind of benefit their it. The country pays for their food, insurance, childcare, heating, electric, baby formula and other crap because they are unmotivated... seems *kitten* backwards to me!

How about we do neither?

Thank you. A childhood friend of mine got pregnant by her d-bag boyfriend because she "forgot" to take her pill and she got a $5,000 tax return for having that one child last year. So, in other words, she gets a crap load more money back than I do because she was LESS responsible. Makes perfect sense. Or, you know, no sense at all.

While I agree that the system is not perfect, I don't think we should stop helping people. I honestly think that we need to fix the system, but that will take more money. Fortunately, our tax rate is substantially lower than the rest of the civilized world, so we can afford it.

Throwing money at it hasn't fixed it before. And you know how they define insanity, right? How about we expect people to help themselves? She didn't need my tax money to help her. Watched it with my own eyes. Her child never went without anything she WANTED, much less needed. We're subsidizing idiocy right and left. People will continue to do stupid stuff if they know they won't be allowed to feel the sting of their bad choices. Trust me, I see welfare fraud in the schools I work in on a daily basis.

If a child goes without, the onus should be on the family and parents to explain why, not the whole of society.

Oh, for the love of. . .first of all, it's not just "your" tax money. In order to get Earned Income Credit, people have to work. "Welfare fraud" is the least of my concerns over what's happening with my tax dollars: how about worrying about the fact that most Fortune 500 companies pay $0 in taxes each year instead of trying to "stick it" to poor people for their "bad choices" (as if people are only ever poor because of their choices--guess what, many people don't have the privilege to go to college, get good jobs, and those people shouldn't be the only ones who should have the privilege to BREED).

And "if a child goes without the onus should be on the family and parents"? I hear so much of this from so-called Christian conservatives and it makes me want to barf. Seriously. If a child goes without (hell, if an ADULT goes without food, shelter, clothing), it's EVERYONE'S problem.

I'd be interested to meet these so-called "priveleged" people. My father was unemployed due to disability (a massive stroke) when I started college. My mom was a public school teacher. They couldn't help me financially at all. What privelege are you talking about, exactly?

And somehow, some way, I never had to rely on anyone else to put food in my belly and gas in my car. I got a job pushing paper for $6.75 an hour and shared a tiny apartment with two roommates. And I kept my legs closed specifically to avoid getting pregnant before I could afford a child. So screw people without the same motivation. No one owes them anything.

And those evil right wing christians you rant about so ignorantly are statistically more charitable than folks who would see money taken through coercion to fund "charity" (which it's not if it's mandatory, by the way.)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

But yeah, we should totally make individual problems into community problems. Because that's worked well in the past.

I think it makes more sense to give money to help people pay down their loans then to give money to people who choose not to work Why does an educated person have to suffer when a person who chose not to go to school, have 5 kids, and not work get every kind of benefit their it. The country pays for their food, insurance, childcare, heating, electric, baby formula and other crap because they are unmotivated... seems *kitten* backwards to me!

How about we do neither?

Thank you. A childhood friend of mine got pregnant by her d-bag boyfriend because she "forgot" to take her pill and she got a $5,000 tax return for having that one child last year. So, in other words, she gets a crap load more money back than I do because she was LESS responsible. Makes perfect sense. Or, you know, no sense at all.

While I agree that the system is not perfect, I don't think we should stop helping people. I honestly think that we need to fix the system, but that will take more money. Fortunately, our tax rate is substantially lower than the rest of the civilized world, so we can afford it.

Throwing money at it hasn't fixed it before. And you know how they define insanity, right? How about we expect people to help themselves? She didn't need my tax money to help her. Watched it with my own eyes. Her child never went without anything she WANTED, much less needed. We're subsidizing idiocy right and left. People will continue to do stupid stuff if they know they won't be allowed to feel the sting of their bad choices. Trust me, I see welfare fraud in the schools I work in on a daily basis.

If a child goes without, the onus should be on the family and parents to explain why, not the whole of society.

Oh, for the love of. . .first of all, it's not just "your" tax money. In order to get Earned Income Credit, people have to work. "Welfare fraud" is the least of my concerns over what's happening with my tax dollars: how about worrying about the fact that most Fortune 500 companies pay $0 in taxes each year instead of trying to "stick it" to poor people for their "bad choices" (as if people are only ever poor because of their choices--guess what, many people don't have the privilege to go to college, get good jobs, and those people shouldn't be the only ones who should have the privilege to BREED).

And "if a child goes without the onus should be on the family and parents"? I hear so much of this from so-called Christian conservatives and it makes me want to barf. Seriously. If a child goes without (hell, if an ADULT goes without food, shelter, clothing), it's EVERYONE'S problem.

I'd be interested to meet these so-called "priveleged" people. My father was unemployed due to disability (a massive stroke) when I started college. My mom was a public school teacher. They couldn't help me financially at all. What privelege are you talking about, exactly?

And somehow, some way, I never had to rely on anyone else to put food in my belly and gas in my car. I got a job pushing paper for $6.75 an hour and shared a tiny apartment with two roommates. And I kept my legs closed specifically to avoid getting pregnant before I could afford a child. So screw people without the same motivation. No one owes them anything.

And those evil right wing christians you rant about so ignorantly are statistically more charitable than folks who would see money taken through coercion to fund "charity" (which it's not if it's mandatory, by the way.)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

But yeah, we should totally make individual problems into community problems. Because that's worked well in the past.

you can't be seroius right? the ones who are not privileged are the ones who can barely make it through high school b/c they have to work or their school does not offer a good enough education, or they can't get jobs like in Detroit where they are so out of money that they had to remove street lights to cut back on city bills. Just b/c you were blessed to have two parents in the home and did not have to go to daycare and you found a job to help keep food in your stomach, dont sit and bash the ones who are really struggling and college will never be an option. pathetic for you to say that ugh

I still owe so much. I would love to not have to pay it back; however, it's not fair to the taxpayers to pay for part of my education.

Student Loan Forgiveness...please. Why should my tax money go to pay for someone else's loans? Nobody forced them to take out big loans. I had loans while in college and for a few years after I graduated but I worked my *kitten* off to get them paid off.

Student Loan Forgiveness...please. Why should my tax money go to pay for someone else's loans? Nobody forced them to take out big loans. I had loans while in college and for a few years after I graduated but I worked my *kitten* off to get them paid off.

No one forced us? I didn't WANT to take out a ton in student loans, but when college is $40,000 a year, you kind of have no choice. I worked my *kitten* of to get the scholarships I could and that still didn't covor the costs...I worked 2 jobs while IN college, plus a 3rd jobb part time. and I am stil over 20,000 in debt, and graduated without being able to find a job. I currently have an extremely low paying job and am living paycheck to paycheck just to pay my bills and make sure I have enough gas to get to work to pay for those bills...a little help would be amazing wth the ridiculous interest rates that they apply.