Fat =/= curvy
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No, but I do find it irritating (gross, even) when people use the term 'grossly obese'.
Me too. "Morbidly" is a medical term, but "grossly" is a pejorative one.
Even though grossly has more than one meaning, one of which has nothing to do with obscenity or disgust?
As a noun, adverb and verb it has other meanings. As an adjective it means "unattractively large or bloated," and nothing else. When it precedes "obese" it's being used as an adjective and has no non-pejorative meaning.
And THAT is why knowing grammar matters.0 -
No, but I do find it irritating (gross, even) when people use the term 'grossly obese'.
Sorry, but if someone is 600 pounds and grossly obese then i would be grossed out. I just find people who are that size gross.
First of all, do you know how few people actually weigh 600 pounds? You weren't referring to 600 pound people and you know it. Those people never say they're "curvy." And the correct term for this, as pointed out, is MORBIDLY obese. Secondly, finding any people "gross" is cause for concern. They're PEOPLE for heaven's sake, and if you can't respect a person as a person because of how you feel about their appearance you need to assess your values because they're skewed.
:S is this to me or to the person who actually posted "Sorry, but if someone is 600 pounds and grossly obese then i would be grossed out. I just find people who are that size gross." <- because I DID NOT post that.0 -
I agree with you. Curves come from your body shape, you can be thin and curvy or overweight and curvy... but extra body fat does not equal curves.0
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No, but I do find it irritating (gross, even) when people use the term 'grossly obese'.
Me too. "Morbidly" is a medical term, but "grossly" is a pejorative one.
Even though grossly has more than one meaning, one of which has nothing to do with obscenity or disgust?
As a noun, adverb and verb it has other meanings. As an adjective it means "unattractively large or bloated," and nothing else. When it precedes "obese" it's being used as an adjective and has no non-pejorative meaning.
And THAT is why knowing grammar matters.
I know grammar, thanks.
And apologies if people took it that way, but I have never heard anyone take offence to the term 'grossly obese'. If people do, apologies.0 -
I agree with you. Curves come from your body shape, you can be thin and curvy or overweight and curvy... but extra body fat does not equal curves.
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i find no offense to anything weight related
i am fat - not curvy
my sister wont call me fat - she says fluffy (she might just be scared of me, she is a twig, 95 pounds 5')
her b/f wont say fat - he said " your swolled up" ( yes swolled ) :laugh:
my niece - your not that big ( um ya ok . im 300 pounds, i call that big)0 -
No, but I do find it irritating (gross, even) when people use the term 'grossly obese'.
Sorry, but if someone is 600 pounds and grossly obese then i would be grossed out. I just find people who are that size gross.
First of all, do you know how few people actually weigh 600 pounds? You weren't referring to 600 pound people and you know it. Those people never say they're "curvy." And the correct term for this, as pointed out, is MORBIDLY obese. Secondly, finding any people "gross" is cause for concern. They're PEOPLE for heaven's sake, and if you can't respect a person as a person because of how you feel about their appearance you need to assess your values because they're skewed.
:S is this to me or to the person who actually posted "Sorry, but if someone is 600 pounds and grossly obese then i would be grossed out. I just find people who are that size gross." <- because I DID NOT post that.
That is what it's attached to. I clicked "Quote" and typed a reply to the comment. It looks to me like it follows that quote and it refers to the 600 pound people explicitly and says that if you can't respect people because of looks you have skewed values. I stand by all of that. I stand by the entire quote box, in order, as it is displayed on my computer.
1) "...I do find it irritating..."
2) "...someone is 600 pounds..."
3) "...do you know how few people..."
In want way does it not appear I am referring to the post above?
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Is this a US specific thread or is the "curvy" marketing present elsewhere in the world? I know that the US has greatly catered towards self-image and making women feel better about themselves - I requested my US size in a clothing boutique in Italy and they sales clerk almost laughed out loud.0
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If I could get my curves down to say Kim Kardashians measurements, I'd be thrilled. Right now I'm 5'2 and 40 29 40. I've never been as small as her though, ever.0
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Aggressive much? She was just asking who you were talking to o.o0 -
I know what you mean. Last night i was watching something, think it was called Fat Feeders and it was about men who love their women big. When i say big, the bigger the better. This mans wife was about 650lbs and her husband was on about society and how curves are so much better. Im sorry but a woman at 650lbs is not "curvy", she's dangerously over weight. I consider curvy as someone like Marilyn Monroe.
Marilyn Monroe would be considered obese by today's standards. While I am not of fan of being unhealthy, I don't think that anyone should judge anyone else because of their outlook on themselves. What you may find disgusting about someone, another person may find just as disgusting about you!!! Totally not judging, I'm just saying....0 -
<~~~ I have no curves. I have "speed bumps"!!! :grumble:0
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But just because someone is overweight, like me, I'm still curvy to me and I'm fat.. i have a defined waist and hips... I'm a size 20. I'm getting fit and in shape, not because i'm ashamed of my body but because I want to be a better version of me. I have been told I'm too tiny for guys that like fat girls but too big for guys that like chunky girls... I don't understand why how someone labels themselves bothers people so much... if someone is happy with themselves, when do people enjoy tearing them down.0
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No, but I do find it irritating (gross, even) when people use the term 'grossly obese'.
Me too. "Morbidly" is a medical term, but "grossly" is a pejorative one.
Even though grossly has more than one meaning, one of which has nothing to do with obscenity or disgust?
As a noun, adverb and verb it has other meanings. As an adjective it means "unattractively large or bloated," and nothing else. When it precedes "obese" it's being used as an adjective and has no non-pejorative meaning.
And THAT is why knowing grammar matters.
I know grammar, thanks.
And apologies if people took it that way, but I have never heard anyone take offence to the term 'grossly obese'. If people do, apologies.
Thanks for the apology. You just met two people who DO take issue with "grossly" obese, and its incorrect usage. The correct term is "morbidly obese." And since you know that the different meanings of "gross" are different parts of speech, and "grossly" in "grossly obese" is an adjective, why did you reply that it has different meanings. It doesn't have different meanings when used as an adjective, and it is an adjective when it is used to describe a noun or another adjective.0 -
My thought of this is quit obvious to all my friends and family, because as someone who countless people have said "you're not fat, you're just curvy" to, they all know how I respond. There is a damn difference between fat pulling on your *kitten* and having a bit of junk to call it a curve. I get pissed when people call me curvy, because to me that's just as bad as someone calling me fat - if not worse. They think they're helping by calling me it, but in reality it's worsening it.
Why is it just as bad for you hun? Would you like to message me? I saw your profile.0 -
Heck, I'm fat and curvy..and as I lose weight I hope to stay curvy. To each it's own...0
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No, but I do find it irritating (gross, even) when people use the term 'grossly obese'.
Sorry, but if someone is 600 pounds and grossly obese then i would be grossed out. I just find people who are that size gross.
First of all, do you know how few people actually weigh 600 pounds? You weren't referring to 600 pound people and you know it. Those people never say they're "curvy." And the correct term for this, as pointed out, is MORBIDLY obese. Secondly, finding any people "gross" is cause for concern. They're PEOPLE for heaven's sake, and if you can't respect a person as a person because of how you feel about their appearance you need to assess your values because they're skewed.
:S is this to me or to the person who actually posted "Sorry, but if someone is 600 pounds and grossly obese then i would be grossed out. I just find people who are that size gross." <- because I DID NOT post that.
That is what it's attached to. I clicked "Quote" and typed a reply to the comment. It looks to me like it follows that quote and it refers to the 600 pound people explicitly and says that if you can't respect people because of looks you have skewed values. I stand by all of that. I stand by the entire quote box, in order, as it is displayed on my computer.
1) "...I do find it irritating..."
2) "...someone is 600 pounds..."
3) "...do you know how few people..."
In want way does it not appear I am referring to the post above?
EDIT: You know what? Report me. You think I did something wrong, report me.
I DID NOT say this;
"Sorry, but if someone is 600 pounds and grossly obese then i would be grossed out. I just find people who are that size gross."
So don't attack me for it. Because it wasn't me who posted it.0 -
Heck, I'm fat and curvy..and as I lose weight I hope to stay curvy. To each it's own...
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to each their own, if it makes person feel better about them selves to say that i see no harm in it, i just dont get why people feel the need to attack people who say it. For the most part I do agree fat dont not = curvy, but like i said if someone calls them selves that I say more power to them, but just IMO0
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im a size 6 5foot and weigh 7stone and im still curvey
just the way im built and i love my bum!!! 0 -
But just because someone is overweight, like me, I'm still curvy to me and I'm fat.. i have a defined waist and hips... I'm a size 20. I'm getting fit and in shape, not because i'm ashamed of my body but because I want to be a better version of me. I have been told I'm too tiny for guys that like fat girls but too big for guys that like chunky girls... I don't understand why how someone labels themselves bothers people so much... if someone is happy with themselves, when do people enjoy tearing them down.
Exactly. Curvy IS a shape, not a weight. Both overweight and normal weight people can be curvy. But to say you can't be curvy and overweight is simply inaccurate. The OP was objecting to people she found gross using a term that describes her as well. Curvy women have a relatively large waist to hip ratio.
I'm the antithesis of curvy. I have an abnormally small waist to hip ratio. This was true when I was at my largest, it's true now, and it will be true when I'm at my goal. I'm thankful they have started making less-curvy women's clothes, because in the past I'd need to look in the Junior department for jeans that sit low on my hips. Misses jeans that fit at the waist are baggy in the hips, butt and thighs for me.0 -
I don't get irritated by it... possibly because I have more important things in my life than what "society" views as CURVY.. who cares? If you know what YOU are, that's really all that should matter to you.0
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:drinker: :drinker: :drinker: :drinker: :drinker:I don't get irritated by it... possibly because I have more important things in my life than what "society" views as CURVY.. who cares? If you know what YOU are, that's really all that should matter to you.0 -
im a size 6 5foot and weigh 7stone and im still curvey just the way im built and i love my bum!!!
Exactly! ^^This!
I'm starting to like my body Love my booty as well 0 -
I self-identify as curvy, and I do hate it when people assume i am just trying to politely say I am overweight, haha.
Edited to clarify: I was on an online dating site for awhile, for example, and had my body type as "curvy" (i am a prototypical hourglass), and it turns out everyone thought I meant "overweight".0 -
I had this conversation with my mum last night, she said she didn't think I really had a shape since I have lost weight because my curves have gone. They have not gone, but I have lost some of the fat off them, I still consider myself curvy, just a trimmer version.
I think people just have different perceptions on what curvy is 0 -
To me curvy is the typical hourglass body shape with a small waist in proportion to the chest & hips. You can be 'curvy' at any size, its more about proportion than size.0
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No, but I do find it irritating (gross, even) when people use the term 'grossly obese'.
Sorry, but if someone is 600 pounds and grossly obese then i would be grossed out. I just find people who are that size gross.
First of all, do you know how few people actually weigh 600 pounds? You weren't referring to 600 pound people and you know it. Those people never say they're "curvy." And the correct term for this, as pointed out, is MORBIDLY obese. Secondly, finding any people "gross" is cause for concern. They're PEOPLE for heaven's sake, and if you can't respect a person as a person because of how you feel about their appearance you need to assess your values because they're skewed.
:S is this to me or to the person who actually posted "Sorry, but if someone is 600 pounds and grossly obese then i would be grossed out. I just find people who are that size gross." <- because I DID NOT post that.
That is what it's attached to. I clicked "Quote" and typed a reply to the comment. It looks to me like it follows that quote and it refers to the 600 pound people explicitly and says that if you can't respect people because of looks you have skewed values. I stand by all of that. I stand by the entire quote box, in order, as it is displayed on my computer.
1) "...I do find it irritating..."
2) "...someone is 600 pounds..."
3) "...do you know how few people..."
In want way does it not appear I am referring to the post above?
EDIT: You know what? Report me. You think I did something wrong, report me.
I DID NOT say this;
"Sorry, but if someone is 600 pounds and grossly obese then i would be grossed out. I just find people who are that size gross."
So don't attack me for it. Because it wasn't me who posted it.
As I said, report me. I didn't attack you. I clearly replied to the comment above mine. Let a moderator decide if you are attacked by me replying to someone else. YOU attacked me and I have no problem with a mod settling it.0 -
well said Em
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I find it funny that the majority of this thread seems to be a convo between a few "less than morbidly obese" people trying to judge whether or not people they consider "morbidly obese" call themselves curvy.
Mean girls much? Ummmya......0
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