I hate water

I really don't know of any good water substitutes that don't give me other issues (tea causes GERD to act up, etc.), but as another person who dislikes water, my best suggestion is also MIO. As someone who dislikes most artificial sweeteners for the flavor, MIO impressed me. So far the most non-fake tasting for me is the Mango Peach. You can add as much as you want to get it to not taste like water anymore (ends up tasting more like kool-aid if you put in a lot). The hubby actually appropriated mine for the house, so now I need to get another for work.

I was a former non-water drinker until I tried MIO and have been hooked ever since. I am going on week 14 without soda and coffeee.

Wanted to add that I completely understand hating water. For a long time I thought I was the only one, as I've hated it since I was a little kid but my parents would still try to force me to drink it (didn't work). It still makes me gag sometimes (or worse), and if I drink it plain it has to be filtered. May have something to do with how hard our water is in this area. But I've survived 31 years drinking, on average, much less than 1 glass of pure water per day, so don't worry. lol

Here. There's your citation you called for.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/541881-caffeine-and-muscle-cramps/

Including their sources at the bottom of the article.

What exactly is this supposed to show? I don't see any scientific evidence related to caffeine and hydration in any of the cited sources, nor really in the article itself.

It wasn't in reply to hydration. It was in reply to my input earlier, saying that too much caffeine can cause muscle cramps. I'm not getting into this war you guys have going on when it comes to water and other sources of hydration. I merely suggested a way for her to try to learn to like water. I myself have suffered from muscle cramps in my legs when I had absolutely nothing to drink all day except caffeinated drinks. That is when I looked up any possible causes for it and found the link between my day and possible causes was caffeine intake. And I believe I found it on webmd.com, not this article.

Like I said though, I'm not getting in on this war you guys have going on. I didn't say anything about hydration.

The thing is, she didn't ask for ways to like plain water. She asked for things to make hydration taste "not like water." As I pointed out, there has not been proved a causative connection, nor even really a correlative one, between caffeine and cramps. One guy doesn't a study make. It's interesting. It is. I'll be watching it. But your personal anecdotal evidence adds nothing to the already skimpy scientific data.

And that's fine, that she didn't ask for ways to like water, but what's wrong with people suggesting ways for her to try? And you know, just because my experience doesn't help prove anything, does that mean I'm not supposed to say anything about it? I am taking evening primrose oil supplement, and the nurse at my doctor's office said that it can make your breasts very sore and tender. Just because she didn't give me scientific sources, does that mean I shouldn't believe her? Does that mean she shouldn't have said anything to me? This website is for people to help each other, and that is what all of us are offering, except for some of you who are picking on people and saying "prove it! prove it!" to our suggestions. Not all of us run to the computer to check sources when we hear of somebody's experience or opinion to prove them wrong or right. Forgive me for having better things to do with my time. But not all of us are completely gullible believing everything we hear either.

Wait. I'm "gullible" because I don't accept scientific assertions without evidence to back it up? Is this a new definition of "gullible" I'm unfamiliar with?

No. I'm saying I'm not gullible for believing water is good for me.
I'm also saying that just because I don't look for scientific evidence doesn't mean I automatically believe what I hear.
And btw, I am also a girl, as you referred to me as a he earlier. I'm the girl in my picture, not the guy. That's my husband.

I'm sorry I called you he.

But since you're wrong that water is better for hydration than other beverages and seem unwilling to change your opinion despite multitudes of scientific evidence presented for you, you are gullible. What's better in general depends on too many things to actually discuss. As at least two people on this thread have mentioned (and given examples of) times when soda, or milk or coffee are "better" than water--not for hydration, for other considerations. It is simply not true that water is "better" than other beverages. And you should take the time to look into the actual scientific evidence if you're going to state something as truth.

I think water is an aquired taste and you will like it eventually. this is what I told myself and it actually worked out; I only drink water during the day now.

Try Mio. It makes water taste like koolaid

Here. There's your citation you called for.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/541881-caffeine-and-muscle-cramps/

Including their sources at the bottom of the article.

What exactly is this supposed to show? I don't see any scientific evidence related to caffeine and hydration in any of the cited sources, nor really in the article itself.

It wasn't in reply to hydration. It was in reply to my input earlier, saying that too much caffeine can cause muscle cramps. I'm not getting into this war you guys have going on when it comes to water and other sources of hydration. I merely suggested a way for her to try to learn to like water. I myself have suffered from muscle cramps in my legs when I had absolutely nothing to drink all day except caffeinated drinks. That is when I looked up any possible causes for it and found the link between my day and possible causes was caffeine intake. And I believe I found it on webmd.com, not this article.

Like I said though, I'm not getting in on this war you guys have going on. I didn't say anything about hydration.

The thing is, she didn't ask for ways to like plain water. She asked for things to make hydration taste "not like water." As I pointed out, there has not been proved a causative connection, nor even really a correlative one, between caffeine and cramps. One guy doesn't a study make. It's interesting. It is. I'll be watching it. But your personal anecdotal evidence adds nothing to the already skimpy scientific data.

And that's fine, that she didn't ask for ways to like water, but what's wrong with people suggesting ways for her to try? And you know, just because my experience doesn't help prove anything, does that mean I'm not supposed to say anything about it? I am taking evening primrose oil supplement, and the nurse at my doctor's office said that it can make your breasts very sore and tender. Just because she didn't give me scientific sources, does that mean I shouldn't believe her? Does that mean she shouldn't have said anything to me? This website is for people to help each other, and that is what all of us are offering, except for some of you who are picking on people and saying "prove it! prove it!" to our suggestions. Not all of us run to the computer to check sources when we hear of somebody's experience or opinion to prove them wrong or right. Forgive me for having better things to do with my time. But not all of us are completely gullible believing everything we hear either.

Wait. I'm "gullible" because I don't accept scientific assertions without evidence to back it up? Is this a new definition of "gullible" I'm unfamiliar with?

No. I'm saying I'm not gullible for believing water is good for me.
I'm also saying that just because I don't look for scientific evidence doesn't mean I automatically believe what I hear.
And btw, I am also a girl, as you referred to me as a he earlier. I'm the girl in my picture, not the guy. That's my husband.

I'm sorry I called you he.

But since you're wrong that water is better for hydration than other beverages and seem unwilling to change your opinion despite multitudes of scientific evidence presented for you, you are gullible. What's better in general depends on too many things to actually discuss. As at least two people on this thread have mentioned (and given examples of) times when soda, or milk or coffee are "better" than water--not for hydration, for other considerations. It is simply not true that water is "better" than other beverages. And you should take the time to look into the actual scientific evidence if you're going to state something as truth.

I didn't say anything about water being better for hydration. I never said anything about that. My comment was only about how to incorporate more water into her diet. I am not the one you were arguing with over this subject. Don't put words in my mouth and accuse me of being unwilling to change my opinion, it wasn't my opinion you are referring to. I said I believe water is good for me. That's it. I also never said water was better than other beverages, I told her to not consume too much caffeine.

You said water was better for you than other beverages. It's NOT.

Fizzy drinks and beer are water with stuff added. If you said "fizzy drinks and beer don't hydrate you," you have said "adding something to water negates the positive effects of water." How do you think they make "fizzy drinks?" I'll tell you. They take water, and they add stuff to it. Are you now claiming that who adds the stuff matters? If I add it at home it's not harmful, but if say, Pepsico adds it, it is?

Ok so your saying a whole load of stuff that i havnt even said. You seem pretty determined to carry on this pointless argument, well im not retaliating so please just give up trying to say that i said this, that and the other when i quite clearly havnt.

do you even know what you're saying?

"Thats quite dumb really, water has tons of benefits that all these other drinks don't."

How do 'these other drinks' not have the same benefits as water if they're just water with stuff added to them? You are saying that by adding something to water, it takes away the benefits.

I don't know why you keep quoting the same line i said, pretty sad actualy. And at what point did i say that adding things to water takes away the benefits?!? I said that water has tons of benefits that other drinks don't, duhhh! So if i was to drink a big glass of water and then a big glass of full fat coke, im sure it doesnt take a rocket scientist to tell me which is going to be a lot better for me.

You are saying that other drinks don't have the same benefits as water
Because other drinks are just water with things added, that means you are saying that adding those things takes away the benefits

Or in other words, you don't have a clue what you're saying. Just like how you said you were going to leave this thread 20+ comments ago.

Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.

Again, you don't seem to understand your own words. If they don't have as many benefits, then they don't have the same benefits. If I have 3 apples and you have 5 apples, what we have is not the same. We are not equal. Water, on the other hand, is equal to other beverages. Unlike us.

Fizzy drinks and beer are water with stuff added. If you said "fizzy drinks and beer don't hydrate you," you have said "adding something to water negates the positive effects of water." How do you think they make "fizzy drinks?" I'll tell you. They take water, and they add stuff to it. Are you now claiming that who adds the stuff matters? If I add it at home it's not harmful, but if say, Pepsico adds it, it is?

Ok so your saying a whole load of stuff that i havnt even said. You seem pretty determined to carry on this pointless argument, well im not retaliating so please just give up trying to say that i said this, that and the other when i quite clearly havnt.

do you even know what you're saying?

"Thats quite dumb really, water has tons of benefits that all these other drinks don't."

How do 'these other drinks' not have the same benefits as water if they're just water with stuff added to them? You are saying that by adding something to water, it takes away the benefits.

I don't know why you keep quoting the same line i said, pretty sad actualy. And at what point did i say that adding things to water takes away the benefits?!? I said that water has tons of benefits that other drinks don't, duhhh! So if i was to drink a big glass of water and then a big glass of full fat coke, im sure it doesnt take a rocket scientist to tell me which is going to be a lot better for me.

You are saying that other drinks don't have the same benefits as water
Because other drinks are just water with things added, that means you are saying that adding those things takes away the benefits

Or in other words, you don't have a clue what you're saying. Just like how you said you were going to leave this thread 20+ comments ago.

Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.

Again, you don't seem to understand your own words. If they don't have as many benefits, then they don't have the same benefits. If I have 3 apples and you have 5 apples, what we have is not the same. We are not equal. Water, on the other hand, is equal to other beverages. Unlike us.

Yeah, unlike us, because it was NOT ME who said that. You are quoting a girl with the screen name Charloo something. That was not me who was arguing that issue. I knew you were confusing me with somebody else. Go back and re-read the thread and you will find that it was not me (jpuderbaugh) who said that.

Here. There's your citation you called for.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/541881-caffeine-and-muscle-cramps/

Including their sources at the bottom of the article.

What exactly is this supposed to show? I don't see any scientific evidence related to caffeine and hydration in any of the cited sources, nor really in the article itself.

It wasn't in reply to hydration. It was in reply to my input earlier, saying that too much caffeine can cause muscle cramps. I'm not getting into this war you guys have going on when it comes to water and other sources of hydration. I merely suggested a way for her to try to learn to like water. I myself have suffered from muscle cramps in my legs when I had absolutely nothing to drink all day except caffeinated drinks. That is when I looked up any possible causes for it and found the link between my day and possible causes was caffeine intake. And I believe I found it on webmd.com, not this article.

Like I said though, I'm not getting in on this war you guys have going on. I didn't say anything about hydration.

The thing is, she didn't ask for ways to like plain water. She asked for things to make hydration taste "not like water." As I pointed out, there has not been proved a causative connection, nor even really a correlative one, between caffeine and cramps. One guy doesn't a study make. It's interesting. It is. I'll be watching it. But your personal anecdotal evidence adds nothing to the already skimpy scientific data.

And that's fine, that she didn't ask for ways to like water, but what's wrong with people suggesting ways for her to try? And you know, just because my experience doesn't help prove anything, does that mean I'm not supposed to say anything about it? I am taking evening primrose oil supplement, and the nurse at my doctor's office said that it can make your breasts very sore and tender. Just because she didn't give me scientific sources, does that mean I shouldn't believe her? Does that mean she shouldn't have said anything to me? This website is for people to help each other, and that is what all of us are offering, except for some of you who are picking on people and saying "prove it! prove it!" to our suggestions. Not all of us run to the computer to check sources when we hear of somebody's experience or opinion to prove them wrong or right. Forgive me for having better things to do with my time. But not all of us are completely gullible believing everything we hear either.

Wait. I'm "gullible" because I don't accept scientific assertions without evidence to back it up? Is this a new definition of "gullible" I'm unfamiliar with?

No. I'm saying I'm not gullible for believing water is good for me.
I'm also saying that just because I don't look for scientific evidence doesn't mean I automatically believe what I hear.
And btw, I am also a girl, as you referred to me as a he earlier. I'm the girl in my picture, not the guy. That's my husband.

I'm sorry I called you he.

But since you're wrong that water is better for hydration than other beverages and seem unwilling to change your opinion despite multitudes of scientific evidence presented for you, you are gullible. What's better in general depends on too many things to actually discuss. As at least two people on this thread have mentioned (and given examples of) times when soda, or milk or coffee are "better" than water--not for hydration, for other considerations. It is simply not true that water is "better" than other beverages. And you should take the time to look into the actual scientific evidence if you're going to state something as truth.

I didn't say anything about water being better for hydration. I never said anything about that. My comment was only about how to incorporate more water into her diet. I am not the one you were arguing with over this subject. Don't put words in my mouth and accuse me of being unwilling to change my opinion, it wasn't my opinion you are referring to. I said I believe water is good for me. That's it. I also never said water was better than other beverages, I told her to not consume too much caffeine.

You said water was better for you than other beverages. It's NOT.

Ok, this time you prove YOUR point. Find where I said that, quote it and prove me wrong.

I apologize. I can't even find the post about muscle cramps, and that's where it was. Guess there wasn't one. My bad. I'm not sure why I wanted a source for that. So you don't believe you have to drink plain water to be healthy?

Here. There's your citation you called for.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/541881-caffeine-and-muscle-cramps/

Including their sources at the bottom of the article.

What exactly is this supposed to show? I don't see any scientific evidence related to caffeine and hydration in any of the cited sources, nor really in the article itself.

It wasn't in reply to hydration. It was in reply to my input earlier, saying that too much caffeine can cause muscle cramps. I'm not getting into this war you guys have going on when it comes to water and other sources of hydration. I merely suggested a way for her to try to learn to like water. I myself have suffered from muscle cramps in my legs when I had absolutely nothing to drink all day except caffeinated drinks. That is when I looked up any possible causes for it and found the link between my day and possible causes was caffeine intake. And I believe I found it on webmd.com, not this article.

Like I said though, I'm not getting in on this war you guys have going on. I didn't say anything about hydration.

The thing is, she didn't ask for ways to like plain water. She asked for things to make hydration taste "not like water." As I pointed out, there has not been proved a causative connection, nor even really a correlative one, between caffeine and cramps. One guy doesn't a study make. It's interesting. It is. I'll be watching it. But your personal anecdotal evidence adds nothing to the already skimpy scientific data.

And that's fine, that she didn't ask for ways to like water, but what's wrong with people suggesting ways for her to try? And you know, just because my experience doesn't help prove anything, does that mean I'm not supposed to say anything about it? I am taking evening primrose oil supplement, and the nurse at my doctor's office said that it can make your breasts very sore and tender. Just because she didn't give me scientific sources, does that mean I shouldn't believe her? Does that mean she shouldn't have said anything to me? This website is for people to help each other, and that is what all of us are offering, except for some of you who are picking on people and saying "prove it! prove it!" to our suggestions. Not all of us run to the computer to check sources when we hear of somebody's experience or opinion to prove them wrong or right. Forgive me for having better things to do with my time. But not all of us are completely gullible believing everything we hear either.

Wait. I'm "gullible" because I don't accept scientific assertions without evidence to back it up? Is this a new definition of "gullible" I'm unfamiliar with?

No. I'm saying I'm not gullible for believing water is good for me.
I'm also saying that just because I don't look for scientific evidence doesn't mean I automatically believe what I hear.
And btw, I am also a girl, as you referred to me as a he earlier. I'm the girl in my picture, not the guy. That's my husband.

I'm sorry I called you he.

But since you're wrong that water is better for hydration than other beverages and seem unwilling to change your opinion despite multitudes of scientific evidence presented for you, you are gullible. What's better in general depends on too many things to actually discuss. As at least two people on this thread have mentioned (and given examples of) times when soda, or milk or coffee are "better" than water--not for hydration, for other considerations. It is simply not true that water is "better" than other beverages. And you should take the time to look into the actual scientific evidence if you're going to state something as truth.

I didn't say anything about water being better for hydration. I never said anything about that. My comment was only about how to incorporate more water into her diet. I am not the one you were arguing with over this subject. Don't put words in my mouth and accuse me of being unwilling to change my opinion, it wasn't my opinion you are referring to. I said I believe water is good for me. That's it. I also never said water was better than other beverages, I told her to not consume too much caffeine.

You said water was better for you than other beverages. It's NOT.

Ok, this time you prove YOUR point. Find where I said that, quote it and prove me wrong.

I apologize. I can't even find the post about muscle cramps, and that's where it was. Guess there wasn't one. My bad. I'm not sure why I wanted a source for that. So you don't believe you have to drink plain water to be healthy?

What I said in the muscle cramps post was that if she consumes too much caffeine without being hydrated enough it can cause muscle cramps. I never said anything about water being the only source of hydration.

Fizzy drinks and beer are water with stuff added. If you said "fizzy drinks and beer don't hydrate you," you have said "adding something to water negates the positive effects of water." How do you think they make "fizzy drinks?" I'll tell you. They take water, and they add stuff to it. Are you now claiming that who adds the stuff matters? If I add it at home it's not harmful, but if say, Pepsico adds it, it is?

Ok so your saying a whole load of stuff that i havnt even said. You seem pretty determined to carry on this pointless argument, well im not retaliating so please just give up trying to say that i said this, that and the other when i quite clearly havnt.

do you even know what you're saying?

"Thats quite dumb really, water has tons of benefits that all these other drinks don't."

How do 'these other drinks' not have the same benefits as water if they're just water with stuff added to them? You are saying that by adding something to water, it takes away the benefits.

I don't know why you keep quoting the same line i said, pretty sad actualy. And at what point did i say that adding things to water takes away the benefits?!? I said that water has tons of benefits that other drinks don't, duhhh! So if i was to drink a big glass of water and then a big glass of full fat coke, im sure it doesnt take a rocket scientist to tell me which is going to be a lot better for me.

You are saying that other drinks don't have the same benefits as water
Because other drinks are just water with things added, that means you are saying that adding those things takes away the benefits

Or in other words, you don't have a clue what you're saying. Just like how you said you were going to leave this thread 20+ comments ago.

Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.

Again, you don't seem to understand your own words. If they don't have as many benefits, then they don't have the same benefits. If I have 3 apples and you have 5 apples, what we have is not the same. We are not equal. Water, on the other hand, is equal to other beverages. Unlike us.

Yeah, unlike us, because it was NOT ME who said that. You are quoting a girl with the screen name Charloo something. That was not me who was arguing that issue. I knew you were confusing me with somebody else. Go back and re-read the thread and you will find that it was not me (jpuderbaugh) who said that.

And I didn't reply to you, unless you are the person who wrote. "Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.". That is who was quoted, that is who was replied to, and it was replied to from the exact post it quotes. I don't believe that is you. I KNOW it wasn't a reply to you, because I clicked "Quote" from HER post, NOT yours. That is in fact why I always include the prior quotes--so it's clear what is being replied to. So what is your issue with this reply?