I hate water

YassSpartan

Cool Story Bro

:bigsmile: you bet

FitLink

Pretty much everything except strong liquor counts as water.

Ignore those who tell you otherwise.

If you want verification, don't take my word for it, check out any number of scientific journals / research studies, sorry for not providing the latest links, this is probably the thousandth time I've responded to this subject and I'm wearying of educating others.

And as it happens, all those sources' links have been provided in this thread. Even if you provided the links again, you'd still get the reply "A doctor/trainer/study-I-heard-of-once-in-a-lullaby says you're wrong."

aippolito1

Have you tried filtered or bottled? Also try crystal light water add in stuff. Make sure it doesn't have any added sugar. Also you could try green tea (again, make sure it doesn't have sugar in it).

Sarauk2sf

Okay everyone, let's settle this once and for all. Drink ANY fluid you like for the next three days EXCEPT plain water, and then come back and tell us whether or not you were admitted to the hospital for dehydration.

I spent the last month + without drinking plain water, & as far as I can tell I haven't been admitted to the hospital

Although, mind you, this might be a dehydration-fueled hallucination...

I have basically spent the last 25 years drinking ONLY coffee, and the last 10 years having it made from milk and not ''water' - I am still going strong...

..but maybe I am in your hallucination, or are you in mine??

Sarauk2sf

Care to provide sources, or you just figure your word is enough? Because many people have provided many, many credentialed, peer reviewed sources on this thread proving this is absolutely true.

Not really, I'm not wasting my time trying to get in the whole "what's right/what's wrong" with you or anyone who even think that beer or plain soda are good sources of hydration :laugh: believe whatever you want to believe, and if you really disagree with me, that's perfectly fine. Not that it affects me anyway :bigsmile:

SO IOW you're posting but you really have no concern at all if what you say is true?

Oh, I know what I'm saying is true, I don't need scientific proof that beer or sodas are not hydration sources. Just because they're liquid, doesn't mean they are. Now, that you want me to prove to you I'm right, that's a different story and that's not what I'll do. If you're so interested to know more about the topic, you should either go to a library, go to school and study something about the topic or whatever else you want to do. MFP is the place where "my sources are valid, yours are not", therefore I'm not going to get into proving anything to anyone.

Cool Story Bro

LOL :laugh:

That went WAY over his head!!

YassSpartan

That went WAY over his head!!

Or I just played along and not wanted to be rude?

FitLink

Okay everyone, let's settle this once and for all. Drink ANY fluid you like for the next three days EXCEPT plain water, and then come back and tell us whether or not you were admitted to the hospital for dehydration.

I spent the last month + without drinking plain water, & as far as I can tell I haven't been admitted to the hospital

Although, mind you, this might be a dehydration-fueled hallucination...

I have basically spent the last 25 years drinking ONLY coffee, and the last 10 years having it made from milk and not ''water' - I am still going strong...

..but maybe I am in your hallucination, or are you in mine??

Off topic, I know, but how do you make coffee from milk?

Sarauk2sf

Okay everyone, let's settle this once and for all. Drink ANY fluid you like for the next three days EXCEPT plain water, and then come back and tell us whether or not you were admitted to the hospital for dehydration.

I spent the last month + without drinking plain water, & as far as I can tell I haven't been admitted to the hospital

Although, mind you, this might be a dehydration-fueled hallucination...

I have basically spent the last 25 years drinking ONLY coffee, and the last 10 years having it made from milk and not ''water' - I am still going strong...

..but maybe I am in your hallucination, or are you in mine??

Off topic, I know, but how do you make coffee from milk?

Lattes

Edited to add: yes I keep them in my calorie and macro targets

FitLink

That went WAY over his head!!

Or I just played along and not wanted to be rude?

I suppose there is a first time for everything.

FitLink

Okay everyone, let's settle this once and for all. Drink ANY fluid you like for the next three days EXCEPT plain water, and then come back and tell us whether or not you were admitted to the hospital for dehydration.

I spent the last month + without drinking plain water, & as far as I can tell I haven't been admitted to the hospital

Although, mind you, this might be a dehydration-fueled hallucination...

I have basically spent the last 25 years drinking ONLY coffee, and the last 10 years having it made from milk and not ''water' - I am still going strong...

..but maybe I am in your hallucination, or are you in mine??

Off topic, I know, but how do you make coffee from milk?

Lattes

Edited to add: yes I keep them in my calorie and macro targets

Ah. But it's still necessary to make the espresso from water?

And I never ask about people's calorie and macro targets. They're not my business.

Sarauk2sf

Okay everyone, let's settle this once and for all. Drink ANY fluid you like for the next three days EXCEPT plain water, and then come back and tell us whether or not you were admitted to the hospital for dehydration.

I spent the last month + without drinking plain water, & as far as I can tell I haven't been admitted to the hospital

Although, mind you, this might be a dehydration-fueled hallucination...

I have basically spent the last 25 years drinking ONLY coffee, and the last 10 years having it made from milk and not ''water' - I am still going strong...

..but maybe I am in your hallucination, or are you in mine??

Off topic, I know, but how do you make coffee from milk?

Lattes

Edited to add: yes I keep them in my calorie and macro targets

Ah. But it's still necessary to make the espresso from water?

And I never ask about people's calorie and macro targets. They're not my business.

Actually - you are correct - there is a small amount of water that is made with them, although technically you can make coffee with granules and hot milk.

MsNewBooty83

i recently bought these LIFE Brand water infused with green tea and pear. its actually almost sweet like a juice, but its sugar and calorie free even my kids like it. its from shoppers drugmart, i dont know wherwe you live...but maybe u can find something like that?....or even find a flavor you like and have cold tea (sweetened with a touch of splenda if you gotta) with lots of ice?

FitLink

i recently bought these LIFE Brand water infused with green tea and pear. its actually almost sweet like a juice, but its sugar and calorie free even my kids like it. its from shoppers drugmart, i dont know wherwe you live...but maybe u can find something like that?....or even find a flavor you like and have cold tea (sweetened with a touch of splenda if you gotta) with lots of ice?

It tastes sweet because it's sweetened. Erythritole is a sugar alcohol that is almost calorie free. Like xylitol, mannitol, or sorbitol. There is no reason sweetened beverages don't hydrate, but it's not like this is any different than diet soda.

niss63

WHY should people "Just do it" as regards drinking plain water? There's no evidence presented here to suggest it's necessary. WHY should people "just do" things they don't like, even when there is no demonstrated benefit over something they do like? Instead of lemonade (which can contain sugar), how about you address why the additive to water most mentioned here, which is Mio, isn't as healthy as water as a choice for hydrating the body?

I was addressing lemonade because it is incorrect to state that "lemonade is water" as you did. Some have advocated all types of soft drinks, sports drinks, alcohol - you name it - as a method of maintaining hydration for someone that does not prefer the taste of water. Honestly, that is a bit crazy.

I suggest just drinking water for a few days to get accustomed to it, and you will naturally adapt and be ok with it after a short while. The benefits of this are that you aren't drinking calories, ingesting too much sugar, caffeine or other artificial preservatives and sweeteners.

As for Mio, it might be a way to make water more palatable, but it does have some of the drawbacks I mentioned. Namely dyes, artificial sweetners and preservatives:

"Ingredients:
Water, Malic Acid, Propylene Glycol, Citric Acid, Contains Less than 2% of Natural Flavor, Sucralose and Acesulfame Potassium (Sweeteners), Potassium Citrate, Red 40, Potassium Sorbate (Preservative)."

HTH

FitLink

WHY should people "Just do it" as regards drinking plain water? There's no evidence presented here to suggest it's necessary. WHY should people "just do" things they don't like, even when there is no demonstrated benefit over something they do like? Instead of lemonade (which can contain sugar), how about you address why the additive to water most mentioned here, which is Mio, isn't as healthy as water as a choice for hydrating the body?

I was addressing lemonade because it is incorrect to state that "lemonade is water" as you did. Some have advocated all types of soft drinks, sports drinks, alcohol - you name it - as a method of maintaining hydration for someone that does not prefer the taste of water. Honestly, that is a bit crazy.

I suggest just drinking water for a few days to get accustomed to it, and you will naturally adapt and be ok with it after a short while. The benefits of this are that you aren't drinking calories, ingesting too much sugar, caffeine or other artificial preservatives and sweeteners.

As for Mio, it might be a way to make water more palatable, but it does have some of the drawbacks I mentioned. Namely dyes, artificial sweetners and preservatives:

"Ingredients:
Water, Malic Acid, Propylene Glycol, Citric Acid, Contains Less than 2% of Natural Flavor, Sucralose and Acesulfame Potassium (Sweeteners), Potassium Citrate, Red 40, Potassium Sorbate (Preservative)."

HTH

Lemonade IS water. At least as much as any water found in the human body is water, which is what you said--the body is 60% water not 60% lemonade. Lemonade is impure water. All the water in you is impure; much of it far less pure than lemonade. If it's not water after stuff is dissolved into it, then the human body is 0% water.

If you are contending that the tiny amounts of "not water" that is in Mio is harmful, provide evidence that it is. Otherwise you are just making drinking plain water into a task you must complete no matter how distasteful, and there is no reason for that.

And stop suggesting I try it your way unless you will try it mine. Your way is PROVED not to be any better.

And the Mayo Clinic also says that soft drinks, sports drinks, and anything BUT alcohol CAN replace water for hydration! Because I prefer science, I believe them and dismiss what you say. If you were to show that your medical and scientific credentials were more respected than theirs--all 3700 specialists of them--I'd believe you over them. SO, what ARE your credentials?

Val_91

I'm not a fan of water myself. But I find it easier to drink by adding a little Crystal Light to it. I have this jug that holds three cups of water and I add about half a package of the CL to it. Definitely helps me!

katysmelly

WHY should people "Just do it" as regards drinking plain water? There's no evidence presented here to suggest it's necessary. WHY should people "just do" things they don't like, even when there is no demonstrated benefit over something they do like? Instead of lemonade (which can contain sugar), how about you address why the additive to water most mentioned here, which is Mio, isn't as healthy as water as a choice for hydrating the body?

I was addressing lemonade because it is incorrect to state that "lemonade is water" as you did. Some have advocated all types of soft drinks, sports drinks, alcohol - you name it - as a method of maintaining hydration for someone that does not prefer the taste of water. Honestly, that is a bit crazy.

I suggest just drinking water for a few days to get accustomed to it, and you will naturally adapt and be ok with it after a short while. The benefits of this are that you aren't drinking calories, ingesting too much sugar, caffeine or other artificial preservatives and sweeteners.

As for Mio, it might be a way to make water more palatable, but it does have some of the drawbacks I mentioned. Namely dyes, artificial sweetners and preservatives:

"Ingredients:
Water, Malic Acid, Propylene Glycol, Citric Acid, Contains Less than 2% of Natural Flavor, Sucralose and Acesulfame Potassium (Sweeteners), Potassium Citrate, Red 40, Potassium Sorbate (Preservative)."

HTH

Lemonade IS water. At least as much as any water found in the human body is water, which is what you said--the body is 60% water not 60% lemonade. Lemonade is impure water. All the water in you is impure; much of it far less pure than lemonade. If it's not water after stuff is dissolved into it, then the human body is 0% water.

If you are contending that the tiny amounts of "not water" that is in Mio is harmful, provide evidence that it is. Otherwise you are just making drinking plain water into a task you must complete no matter how distasteful, and there is no reason for that.

And stop suggesting I try it your way unless you will try it mine. Your way is PROVED not to be any better.

And the Mayo Clinic also says that soft drinks, sports drinks, and anything BUT alcohol CAN replace water for hydration! Because I prefer science, I believe them and dismiss what you say. If you were to show that your medical and scientific credentials were more respected than theirs--all 3700 specialists of them--I'd believe you over them. SO, what ARE your credentials?

I never realized until this thread that the oceans are not made of water. What is that stuff in the oceans?

(Sea water won't even hydrate you! Whoever said the earth's surface is mostly water was lying and obviously not a scientist.)

katysmelly

WHY should people "Just do it" as regards drinking plain water? There's no evidence presented here to suggest it's necessary. WHY should people "just do" things they don't like, even when there is no demonstrated benefit over something they do like? Instead of lemonade (which can contain sugar), how about you address why the additive to water most mentioned here, which is Mio, isn't as healthy as water as a choice for hydrating the body?

I was addressing lemonade because it is incorrect to state that "lemonade is water" as you did. Some have advocated all types of soft drinks, sports drinks, alcohol - you name it - as a method of maintaining hydration for someone that does not prefer the taste of water. Honestly, that is a bit crazy.

I suggest just drinking water for a few days to get accustomed to it, and you will naturally adapt and be ok with it after a short while. The benefits of this are that you aren't drinking calories, ingesting too much sugar, caffeine or other artificial preservatives and sweeteners.

As for Mio, it might be a way to make water more palatable, but it does have some of the drawbacks I mentioned. Namely dyes, artificial sweetners and preservatives:

"Ingredients:
Water, Malic Acid, Propylene Glycol, Citric Acid, Contains Less than 2% of Natural Flavor, Sucralose and Acesulfame Potassium (Sweeteners), Potassium Citrate, Red 40, Potassium Sorbate (Preservative)."

HTH

Lemonade is water with some sugar and lemon juice added to it. Earlier you suggested that someone squeeze a little lemon into the water to make it more palatable. That's a very weak lemonade.

The point of drinking water is to take in fluid to hydrate the body. Unless there is something dissolved in the water that our bodies can't handle (like the high levels of salt in sea water), it will hydrate us just fine.

There may be other reasons not to drink some beverages - you may not want the sugar or caffeine or artificial sweeteners in them - but if the goal is to hydrate the body so that it will function properly, they will all work as well as water.

katysmelly

There really aren't any substitutions for water. Your body is 60% water, not 60% lemonade.
However, maybe try squeezing some lime or lemon into it. And maybe keep a pitcher of it in the fridge so it can always be nice and cold and refreshing.

Have you read this thread and the references given here? Lemonade is WATER. And the body's water? Isn't pure either. It's full of electrolytes. All liquids count as water. Anything else is pseudoscience.

Uhm. Yeah, and I also studied biology for four years. Is that a pseudoscience, too?

The answer to the question of "what is water?" would fall under the realm of chemistry.

I majored in art history, though, so I'm not qualified to answer the question, period.

Actually I think the question here isn't "what is water? so much as "what counts as water for purposes of hydrating the body?" And your degree subject isn't important so long as you learned in college 1)-logic, and 2)- to evaluate research based on things like credentials and peer review. I had listed peer reviewed research from the Mayo Clinic, a well-respected medical research/teaching hospital, proving that water contained in anything you consume hydrates the body equally well. This poster argued with no citation of source that lemonade =/= water in hydrating the body. I referenced the sources and said that unsubstantiated claims such as hers were pseudoscience. (It's usually called "broscience" here.) Her reply, rather than provide sources for her assertions was an "appeal to authority" by throwing out her college major.

I was a biology major myself for two years before transferring to psychology. I later got an RN. I currently do IT at a company that manufactures metals and chemicals.

I believe the answer to "what counts as water for purposes of hydrating the body" fall into the realm of biophysiology rather than chemistry.

I was kidding. I agree with you.

Edited to add: I see in one of your posts that you have Aspergers, so you might not always catch sarcasm or irony or other sorts of humour. Don't worry - I agree with all your posts in this thread. You're being very logical AND citing highly reliable sources.

But, you're arguing with some .... um... not very bright people. If they want to drink "pure" water or pay extra for zero-calorie impurities like Mio, at least they won't die of hydration... MUCH LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO DRINK ONLY TEA OR DIET COKE!

lmfbs

I love MFP forums. I never would have imagined I could ever read 10 pages of debates about water.