I hate water

I think water is an aquired taste. I sometimes put lemon in mine, but I really like it super cold! My dad HATES water and uses the mio.

Drink whatever you want. Don't like plain water? Diet soda, non-diet soda, Crystal Lite, coffee, tea, juice, milk, sports drinks, beer... All hydrate you just about as effectively as water, the only downside is that some of them have calories you would have to account for. Hydration is all about FLUID, not about water.

WTF??

Thats quite dumb really, water has tons of benefits that all these other drinks don't.

Not to mention that artificial sweeteners trick your body into thinking it's getting sugar and then when it doesn't get any it can go a little haywire! Some people also believe it stimulates your hunger hormone.

Better to avoid them if you can.

As well as beer, which completely dehydrates you. I'm sorry, but I just cannot believe someone actually justifies that ANY beverage is hydrating. WOW.

Woo, and i thought i was quite blonde ha!

Well why don't you all take it up with the Mayo Clinic because they believe it does.

If you've found support for the Mayo Clinics findings on this, please I'd like to see it. Being totally serious, I'd like to see proof of this.

Are you saying you don't consider the Mayo Clinic to be credible in the area of nutrition and health? Because if not, who would you consider a more respected source?

Or are you saying there are no links to the Mayo Clinic's support of this? Because those links have been posted in this thread more than once.

Here are two, just in case you aren't able to find them without a map.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinatehttp://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283d-drinks/AN01661
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283

Big talk from somebody who is very WRONG on who they are quoting. Again, it was not me who was involved in this argument.

They are not even refering to your posts, so why are you getting so defensive about it? Where did they insinuate it was you??

Exactly my point. she said I said these things, so I told her to quote me, and she posted these, which I did not say. That's why I'm defensive.

So you're saying that you assume everything I reply to anyone on this thread is directed at you?!? You've taken two posts to other people, and CLEARLY at other people, taken offense, then suggested YOU'VE been abused? Please report me. Let a moderator determine whether I have abused you in any way. I have apologized for thinking you posted the reply about caffeine and muscle cramps I can't find. I have no problem with a moderator determining if I have behaved inappropriately.

Like I said, you posted these quotes after I told you to quote me saying these things (which I didn't). How was I supposed to know that you didn't mistakenly think I had said these things? I do not assume everything is directed at me, I thought that you thought I said those quotes. And I never claimed I was abused either.

Fizzy drinks and beer are water with stuff added. If you said "fizzy drinks and beer don't hydrate you," you have said "adding something to water negates the positive effects of water." How do you think they make "fizzy drinks?" I'll tell you. They take water, and they add stuff to it. Are you now claiming that who adds the stuff matters? If I add it at home it's not harmful, but if say, Pepsico adds it, it is?

Ok so your saying a whole load of stuff that i havnt even said. You seem pretty determined to carry on this pointless argument, well im not retaliating so please just give up trying to say that i said this, that and the other when i quite clearly havnt.

do you even know what you're saying?

"Thats quite dumb really, water has tons of benefits that all these other drinks don't."

How do 'these other drinks' not have the same benefits as water if they're just water with stuff added to them? You are saying that by adding something to water, it takes away the benefits.

I don't know why you keep quoting the same line i said, pretty sad actualy. And at what point did i say that adding things to water takes away the benefits?!? I said that water has tons of benefits that other drinks don't, duhhh! So if i was to drink a big glass of water and then a big glass of full fat coke, im sure it doesnt take a rocket scientist to tell me which is going to be a lot better for me.

You are saying that other drinks don't have the same benefits as water
Because other drinks are just water with things added, that means you are saying that adding those things takes away the benefits

Or in other words, you don't have a clue what you're saying. Just like how you said you were going to leave this thread 20+ comments ago.

Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.

Again, you don't seem to understand your own words. If they don't have as many benefits, then they don't have the same benefits. If I have 3 apples and you have 5 apples, what we have is not the same. We are not equal. Water, on the other hand, is equal to other beverages. Unlike us.

Yeah, unlike us, because it was NOT ME who said that. You are quoting a girl with the screen name Charloo something. That was not me who was arguing that issue. I knew you were confusing me with somebody else. Go back and re-read the thread and you will find that it was not me (jpuderbaugh) who said that.

And I didn't reply to you, unless you are the person who wrote. "Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.". That is who was quoted, that is who was replied to, and it was replied to from the exact post it quotes. I don't believe that is you. I KNOW it wasn't a reply to you, because I clicked "Quote" from HER post, NOT yours. That is in fact why I always include the prior quotes--so it's clear what is being replied to. So what is your issue with this reply?

I told you to quote me saying these things, and you went back and found posts that said these things, and quoted them after I told you to prove me wrong. What else was I supposed to believe? It didn't make any sense to me why you would go back so far and quote an old post if you weren't responding to me. How was I supposed to know that you didn't think these were from me if you posted them after I challenged you?

You were supposed to believe that I was replying to the posts I replied to. To reply to you I will hit "Reply" or "Quote" on YOUR post. That's how it's done. Am I not ever to post to anyone else again unless/until I reply to you? No one else misunderstood this. I have done nothing wrong here. I've apologized for anything I did wrong, and if you think I'm going to apologize because you assume every post that comes after yours in time is directed at you, that isn't going to happen. I am not wrong here, you are. Often replies don't come next to each other, not just this time but all the time, and as I said, I ALWAYS include what came before so it's clear what it's in reply to. As I said, let a mod sort it out. I did not do anything wrong. Report it.

Fizzy drinks and beer are water with stuff added. If you said "fizzy drinks and beer don't hydrate you," you have said "adding something to water negates the positive effects of water." How do you think they make "fizzy drinks?" I'll tell you. They take water, and they add stuff to it. Are you now claiming that who adds the stuff matters? If I add it at home it's not harmful, but if say, Pepsico adds it, it is?

Ok so your saying a whole load of stuff that i havnt even said. You seem pretty determined to carry on this pointless argument, well im not retaliating so please just give up trying to say that i said this, that and the other when i quite clearly havnt.

do you even know what you're saying?

"Thats quite dumb really, water has tons of benefits that all these other drinks don't."

How do 'these other drinks' not have the same benefits as water if they're just water with stuff added to them? You are saying that by adding something to water, it takes away the benefits.

I don't know why you keep quoting the same line i said, pretty sad actualy. And at what point did i say that adding things to water takes away the benefits?!? I said that water has tons of benefits that other drinks don't, duhhh! So if i was to drink a big glass of water and then a big glass of full fat coke, im sure it doesnt take a rocket scientist to tell me which is going to be a lot better for me.

You are saying that other drinks don't have the same benefits as water
Because other drinks are just water with things added, that means you are saying that adding those things takes away the benefits

Or in other words, you don't have a clue what you're saying. Just like how you said you were going to leave this thread 20+ comments ago.

Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.

Again, you don't seem to understand your own words. If they don't have as many benefits, then they don't have the same benefits. If I have 3 apples and you have 5 apples, what we have is not the same. We are not equal. Water, on the other hand, is equal to other beverages. Unlike us.

Yeah, unlike us, because it was NOT ME who said that. You are quoting a girl with the screen name Charloo something. That was not me who was arguing that issue. I knew you were confusing me with somebody else. Go back and re-read the thread and you will find that it was not me (jpuderbaugh) who said that.

And I didn't reply to you, unless you are the person who wrote. "Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.". That is who was quoted, that is who was replied to, and it was replied to from the exact post it quotes. I don't believe that is you. I KNOW it wasn't a reply to you, because I clicked "Quote" from HER post, NOT yours. That is in fact why I always include the prior quotes--so it's clear what is being replied to. So what is your issue with this reply?

I told you to quote me saying these things, and you went back and found posts that said these things, and quoted them after I told you to prove me wrong. What else was I supposed to believe? It didn't make any sense to me why you would go back so far and quote an old post if you weren't responding to me. How was I supposed to know that you didn't think these were from me if you posted them after I challenged you?

You were supposed to believe that I was replying to the posts I replied to. To reply to you I will hit "Reply" or "Quote" on YOUR post. That's how it's done. Am I not ever to post to anyone else again unless/until I reply to you? No one else misunderstood this. I have done nothing wrong here. I've apologized for anything I did wrong, and if you think I'm going to apologize because you assume every post that comes after yours in time is directed at you, that isn't going to happen. I am not wrong here, you are. Often replies don't come next to each other, not just this time but all the time, and as I said, I ALWAYS include what came before so it's clear what it's in reply to. As I said, let a mod sort it out. I did not do anything wrong. Report it.

But like I said, I thought you mistakenly thought I had posted those comments you were quoting. That's all. I'm sorry I misunderstood, but I had told you to go back and quote me saying those things, so I thought that you mistakenly thought I had said them.

And I was telling you, in no uncertain terms, that it was not me who was involved in that conversation, because I assumed that you thought it was me who was involved.

Try adding Mio to your water. It is drops of flavoring and can be bought at Target or Walmart. Add as many drops as you like (I usually do about 3 short squeezes). I hate water too and this makes you forget you are even drinking water! I've gotten everyone addicted to it. Best part... its ZERO calories! So much better than crystal light or adding fruit.

Fizzy drinks and beer are water with stuff added. If you said "fizzy drinks and beer don't hydrate you," you have said "adding something to water negates the positive effects of water." How do you think they make "fizzy drinks?" I'll tell you. They take water, and they add stuff to it. Are you now claiming that who adds the stuff matters? If I add it at home it's not harmful, but if say, Pepsico adds it, it is?

Ok so your saying a whole load of stuff that i havnt even said. You seem pretty determined to carry on this pointless argument, well im not retaliating so please just give up trying to say that i said this, that and the other when i quite clearly havnt.

do you even know what you're saying?

"Thats quite dumb really, water has tons of benefits that all these other drinks don't."

How do 'these other drinks' not have the same benefits as water if they're just water with stuff added to them? You are saying that by adding something to water, it takes away the benefits.

I don't know why you keep quoting the same line i said, pretty sad actualy. And at what point did i say that adding things to water takes away the benefits?!? I said that water has tons of benefits that other drinks don't, duhhh! So if i was to drink a big glass of water and then a big glass of full fat coke, im sure it doesnt take a rocket scientist to tell me which is going to be a lot better for me.

You are saying that other drinks don't have the same benefits as water
Because other drinks are just water with things added, that means you are saying that adding those things takes away the benefits

Or in other words, you don't have a clue what you're saying. Just like how you said you were going to leave this thread 20+ comments ago.

Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.

Again, you don't seem to understand your own words. If they don't have as many benefits, then they don't have the same benefits. If I have 3 apples and you have 5 apples, what we have is not the same. We are not equal. Water, on the other hand, is equal to other beverages. Unlike us.

Yeah, unlike us, because it was NOT ME who said that. You are quoting a girl with the screen name Charloo something. That was not me who was arguing that issue. I knew you were confusing me with somebody else. Go back and re-read the thread and you will find that it was not me (jpuderbaugh) who said that.

And I didn't reply to you, unless you are the person who wrote. "Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.". That is who was quoted, that is who was replied to, and it was replied to from the exact post it quotes. I don't believe that is you. I KNOW it wasn't a reply to you, because I clicked "Quote" from HER post, NOT yours. That is in fact why I always include the prior quotes--so it's clear what is being replied to. So what is your issue with this reply?

I told you to quote me saying these things, and you went back and found posts that said these things, and quoted them after I told you to prove me wrong. What else was I supposed to believe? It didn't make any sense to me why you would go back so far and quote an old post if you weren't responding to me. How was I supposed to know that you didn't think these were from me if you posted them after I challenged you?

You were supposed to believe that I was replying to the posts I replied to. To reply to you I will hit "Reply" or "Quote" on YOUR post. That's how it's done. Am I not ever to post to anyone else again unless/until I reply to you? No one else misunderstood this. I have done nothing wrong here. I've apologized for anything I did wrong, and if you think I'm going to apologize because you assume every post that comes after yours in time is directed at you, that isn't going to happen. I am not wrong here, you are. Often replies don't come next to each other, not just this time but all the time, and as I said, I ALWAYS include what came before so it's clear what it's in reply to. As I said, let a mod sort it out. I did not do anything wrong. Report it.

But like I said, I thought you mistakenly thought I had posted those comments you were quoting. That's all. I'm sorry I misunderstood, but I had told you to go back and quote me saying those things, so I thought that you mistakenly thought I had said them.

And I was telling you, in no uncertain terms, that it was not me who was involved in that conversation, because I assumed that you thought it was me who was involved.

And like I said, you had no reason to think that. Let a mod settle it. You know what they say happens when you assume...

Here. There's your citation you called for.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/541881-caffeine-and-muscle-cramps/

Including their sources at the bottom of the article.

What exactly is this supposed to show? I don't see any scientific evidence related to caffeine and hydration in any of the cited sources, nor really in the article itself.

It wasn't in reply to hydration. It was in reply to my input earlier, saying that too much caffeine can cause muscle cramps. I'm not getting into this war you guys have going on when it comes to water and other sources of hydration. I merely suggested a way for her to try to learn to like water. I myself have suffered from muscle cramps in my legs when I had absolutely nothing to drink all day except caffeinated drinks. That is when I looked up any possible causes for it and found the link between my day and possible causes was caffeine intake. And I believe I found it on webmd.com, not this article.

Like I said though, I'm not getting in on this war you guys have going on. I didn't say anything about hydration.

The thing is, she didn't ask for ways to like plain water. She asked for things to make hydration taste "not like water." As I pointed out, there has not been proved a causative connection, nor even really a correlative one, between caffeine and cramps. One guy doesn't a study make. It's interesting. It is. I'll be watching it. But your personal anecdotal evidence adds nothing to the already skimpy scientific data.

And that's fine, that she didn't ask for ways to like water, but what's wrong with people suggesting ways for her to try? And you know, just because my experience doesn't help prove anything, does that mean I'm not supposed to say anything about it? I am taking evening primrose oil supplement, and the nurse at my doctor's office said that it can make your breasts very sore and tender. Just because she didn't give me scientific sources, does that mean I shouldn't believe her? Does that mean she shouldn't have said anything to me? This website is for people to help each other, and that is what all of us are offering, except for some of you who are picking on people and saying "prove it! prove it!" to our suggestions. Not all of us run to the computer to check sources when we hear of somebody's experience or opinion to prove them wrong or right. Forgive me for having better things to do with my time. But not all of us are completely gullible believing everything we hear either.

Wait. I'm "gullible" because I don't accept scientific assertions without evidence to back it up? Is this a new definition of "gullible" I'm unfamiliar with?

No. I'm saying I'm not gullible for believing water is good for me.
I'm also saying that just because I don't look for scientific evidence doesn't mean I automatically believe what I hear.
And btw, I am also a girl, as you referred to me as a he earlier. I'm the girl in my picture, not the guy. That's my husband.

I'm sorry I called you he.

But since you're wrong that water is better for hydration than other beverages and seem unwilling to change your opinion despite multitudes of scientific evidence presented for you, you are gullible. What's better in general depends on too many things to actually discuss. As at least two people on this thread have mentioned (and given examples of) times when soda, or milk or coffee are "better" than water--not for hydration, for other considerations. It is simply not true that water is "better" than other beverages. And you should take the time to look into the actual scientific evidence if you're going to state something as truth.

I didn't say anything about water being better for hydration. I never said anything about that. My comment was only about how to incorporate more water into her diet. I am not the one you were arguing with over this subject. Don't put words in my mouth and accuse me of being unwilling to change my opinion, it wasn't my opinion you are referring to. I said I believe water is good for me. That's it. I also never said water was better than other beverages, I told her to not consume too much caffeine.

You said water was better for you than other beverages. It's NOT.

Ok, this time you prove YOUR point. Find where I said that, quote it and prove me wrong.

I apologize. I can't even find the post about muscle cramps, and that's where it was. Guess there wasn't one. My bad. I'm not sure why I wanted a source for that. So you don't believe you have to drink plain water to be healthy?

What I said in the muscle cramps post was that if she consumes too much caffeine without being hydrated enough it can cause muscle cramps. I never said anything about water being the only source of hydration.

And AGAIN, as I said, I can't find the quote and I apologize for thinking you said in that post that only water was hydrating.

Drink whatever you want. Don't like plain water? Diet soda, non-diet soda, Crystal Lite, coffee, tea, juice, milk, sports drinks, beer... All hydrate you just about as effectively as water, the only downside is that some of them have calories you would have to account for. Hydration is all about FLUID, not about water.

WTF??

Thats quite dumb really, water has tons of benefits that all these other drinks don't.

Not to mention that artificial sweeteners trick your body into thinking it's getting sugar and then when it doesn't get any it can go a little haywire! Some people also believe it stimulates your hunger hormone.

Better to avoid them if you can.

As well as beer, which completely dehydrates you. I'm sorry, but I just cannot believe someone actually justifies that ANY beverage is hydrating. WOW.

Woo, and i thought i was quite blonde ha!

Well why don't you all take it up with the Mayo Clinic because they believe it does.

If you've found support for the Mayo Clinics findings on this, please I'd like to see it. Being totally serious, I'd like to see proof of this.

Are you saying you don't consider the Mayo Clinic to be credible in the area of nutrition and health? Because if not, who would you consider a more respected source?

Or are you saying there are no links to the Mayo Clinic's support of this? Because those links have been posted in this thread more than once.

Here are two, just in case you aren't able to find them without a map.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinatehttp://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283d-drinks/AN01661
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283

Big talk from somebody who is very WRONG on who they are quoting. Again, it was not me who was involved in this argument.

They are not even refering to your posts, so why are you getting so defensive about it? Where did they insinuate it was you??

Exactly my point. she said I said these things, so I told her to quote me, and she posted these, which I did not say. That's why I'm defensive.

This makes less sense than anything you've said so far. Your point is that you know I'm not talking to you but you're going to get your panties in a wad anyway? You're defensive because I replied to someone besides you? In what way is "These are not even referring to your post" exactly your point?

It's been scientifically proven that you do not need to drink plain water to reep the benefits... so I would suggest trying things like, Mio Water Enchancer, or Lemon etc. Some of them like Wylers has calories so just make sure you log it

it's about staying HYDRATED.. not necessarily about drinking PLAIN WATER

FRUIT!! A slice of orange here, a wedge of lemon there. Even some cut berries. Use frozen fruit as ice cubes. You can make your water match your outfit.

Im the same!
Hate water, juice, cordial, those little flavour packets you can add to water, spring water, sparkling water and tea what doesnt have milk in it...
I REALLY struggle to drink even a cup of water a day. =/

Fizzy drinks and beer are water with stuff added. If you said "fizzy drinks and beer don't hydrate you," you have said "adding something to water negates the positive effects of water." How do you think they make "fizzy drinks?" I'll tell you. They take water, and they add stuff to it. Are you now claiming that who adds the stuff matters? If I add it at home it's not harmful, but if say, Pepsico adds it, it is?

Ok so your saying a whole load of stuff that i havnt even said. You seem pretty determined to carry on this pointless argument, well im not retaliating so please just give up trying to say that i said this, that and the other when i quite clearly havnt.

do you even know what you're saying?

"Thats quite dumb really, water has tons of benefits that all these other drinks don't."

How do 'these other drinks' not have the same benefits as water if they're just water with stuff added to them? You are saying that by adding something to water, it takes away the benefits.

I don't know why you keep quoting the same line i said, pretty sad actualy. And at what point did i say that adding things to water takes away the benefits?!? I said that water has tons of benefits that other drinks don't, duhhh! So if i was to drink a big glass of water and then a big glass of full fat coke, im sure it doesnt take a rocket scientist to tell me which is going to be a lot better for me.

You are saying that other drinks don't have the same benefits as water
Because other drinks are just water with things added, that means you are saying that adding those things takes away the benefits

Or in other words, you don't have a clue what you're saying. Just like how you said you were going to leave this thread 20+ comments ago.
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Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.
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Again, you don't seem to understand your own words. If they don't have as many benefits, then they don't have the same benefits. If I have 3 apples and you have 5 apples, what we have is not the same. We are not equal. Water, on the other hand, is equal to other beverages. Unlike us.
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Yeah, unlike us, because it was NOT ME who said that. You are quoting a girl with the screen name Charloo something. That was not me who was arguing that issue. I knew you were confusing me with somebody else. Go back and re-read the thread and you will find that it was not me (jpuderbaugh) who said that.
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And I didn't reply to you, unless you are the person who wrote. "Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.". That is who was quoted, that is who was replied to, and it was replied to from the exact post it quotes. I don't believe that is you. I KNOW it wasn't a reply to you, because I clicked "Quote" from HER post, NOT yours. That is in fact why I always include the prior quotes--so it's clear what is being replied to. So what is your issue with this reply?
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I told you to quote me saying these things, and you went back and found posts that said these things, and quoted them after I told you to prove me wrong. What else was I supposed to believe? It didn't make any sense to me why you would go back so far and quote an old post if you weren't responding to me. How was I supposed to know that you didn't think these were from me if you posted them after I challenged you?
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You were supposed to believe that I was replying to the posts I replied to. To reply to you I will hit "Reply" or "Quote" on YOUR post. That's how it's done. Am I not ever to post to anyone else again unless/until I reply to you? No one else misunderstood this. I have done nothing wrong here. I've apologized for anything I did wrong, and if you think I'm going to apologize because you assume every post that comes after yours in time is directed at you, that isn't going to happen. I am not wrong here, you are. Often replies don't come next to each other, not just this time but all the time, and as I said, I ALWAYS include what came before so it's clear what it's in reply to. As I said, let a mod sort it out. I did not do anything wrong. Report it.
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Simply hitting reply to someone's post does not make it clear who you are replying to. That's why she got confused. If you want to reply to someone specifically, you need to hit the quote button.

Drink whatever you want. Don't like plain water? Diet soda, non-diet soda, Crystal Lite, coffee, tea, juice, milk, sports drinks, beer... All hydrate you just about as effectively as water, the only downside is that some of them have calories you would have to account for. Hydration is all about FLUID, not about water.

WTF??

Thats quite dumb really, water has tons of benefits that all these other drinks don't.

Not to mention that artificial sweeteners trick your body into thinking it's getting sugar and then when it doesn't get any it can go a little haywire! Some people also believe it stimulates your hunger hormone.

Better to avoid them if you can.

As well as beer, which completely dehydrates you. I'm sorry, but I just cannot believe someone actually justifies that ANY beverage is hydrating. WOW.

Woo, and i thought i was quite blonde ha!

Well why don't you all take it up with the Mayo Clinic because they believe it does.

If you've found support for the Mayo Clinics findings on this, please I'd like to see it. Being totally serious, I'd like to see proof of this.

Are you saying you don't consider the Mayo Clinic to be credible in the area of nutrition and health? Because if not, who would you consider a more respected source?

Or are you saying there are no links to the Mayo Clinic's support of this? Because those links have been posted in this thread more than once.

Here are two, just in case you aren't able to find them without a map.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinatehttp://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283d-drinks/AN01661
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283

Big talk from somebody who is very WRONG on who they are quoting. Again, it was not me who was involved in this argument.

They are not even refering to your posts, so why are you getting so defensive about it? Where did they insinuate it was you??

Exactly my point. she said I said these things, so I told her to quote me, and she posted these, which I did not say. That's why I'm defensive.

So you're saying that you assume everything I reply to anyone on this thread is directed at you?!? You've taken two posts to other people, and CLEARLY at other people, taken offense, then suggested YOU'VE been abused? Please report me. Let a moderator determine whether I have abused you in any way. I have apologized for thinking you posted the reply about caffeine and muscle cramps I can't find. I have no problem with a moderator determining if I have behaved inappropriately.

Like I said, you posted these quotes after I told you to quote me saying these things (which I didn't). How was I supposed to know that you didn't mistakenly think I had said these things? I do not assume everything is directed at me, I thought that you thought I said those quotes. And I never claimed I was abused either.

Hi there, welcome to the internet. Quite often you fill find people, especially on message boards, commenting on multiple conversations at the same time.
if what they're saying doesn't make sense to you, & doesn't respond to something you said, then there's a good chance that it's NOT ABOUT YOU.

I, risking the lashing I am about to get, just don't understand how one can HATE water. It is tasteless...it is just a simple drink...no taste, no calories....I am really confused how one can hate it?

Now, would you RATHER have soda or juice or coffee or tea? Sure, maybe....but does that mean you really HATE water??......

People confuse hatred with the preference for alternatives and no doubt will continue to do so.

It certainly seems to have led to some confusion with, as best I can follow, people confused about who said what to whom and who was being replied to about what they or someone else did or didn't say or thought they had said or implied, or not as the case may be.

A successful bit of 'winding up' going on perhaps.


'Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.'
Albert Einstein - and who am I to disagree.

I bet he drank water too and I can't imagine he hated doing so although he may have preferred alternatives.

To avoid any confusion, heaven forbid, I'm not 'having a go' at the OP whose seemingly innocent question appears to have had unforeseen consequences - or so I presume.

Fizzy drinks and beer are water with stuff added. If you said "fizzy drinks and beer don't hydrate you," you have said "adding something to water negates the positive effects of water." How do you think they make "fizzy drinks?" I'll tell you. They take water, and they add stuff to it. Are you now claiming that who adds the stuff matters? If I add it at home it's not harmful, but if say, Pepsico adds it, it is?

Ok so your saying a whole load of stuff that i havnt even said. You seem pretty determined to carry on this pointless argument, well im not retaliating so please just give up trying to say that i said this, that and the other when i quite clearly havnt.

do you even know what you're saying?

"Thats quite dumb really, water has tons of benefits that all these other drinks don't."

How do 'these other drinks' not have the same benefits as water if they're just water with stuff added to them? You are saying that by adding something to water, it takes away the benefits.

I don't know why you keep quoting the same line i said, pretty sad actualy. And at what point did i say that adding things to water takes away the benefits?!? I said that water has tons of benefits that other drinks don't, duhhh! So if i was to drink a big glass of water and then a big glass of full fat coke, im sure it doesnt take a rocket scientist to tell me which is going to be a lot better for me.

You are saying that other drinks don't have the same benefits as water
Because other drinks are just water with things added, that means you are saying that adding those things takes away the benefits

Or in other words, you don't have a clue what you're saying. Just like how you said you were going to leave this thread 20+ comments ago.

Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.

Again, you don't seem to understand your own words. If they don't have as many benefits, then they don't have the same benefits. If I have 3 apples and you have 5 apples, what we have is not the same. We are not equal. Water, on the other hand, is equal to other beverages. Unlike us.

Yeah, unlike us, because it was NOT ME who said that. You are quoting a girl with the screen name Charloo something. That was not me who was arguing that issue. I knew you were confusing me with somebody else. Go back and re-read the thread and you will find that it was not me (jpuderbaugh) who said that.

And I didn't reply to you, unless you are the person who wrote. "Ok to the point. I never said they don't have the same benefits, i said they don't have AS MANY BENEFITS.... U understanding so far??? Any wonder i keep responding when your just stating pure crap and things i havnt said.". That is who was quoted, that is who was replied to, and it was replied to from the exact post it quotes. I don't believe that is you. I KNOW it wasn't a reply to you, because I clicked "Quote" from HER post, NOT yours. That is in fact why I always include the prior quotes--so it's clear what is being replied to. So what is your issue with this reply?

I told you to quote me saying these things, and you went back and found posts that said these things, and quoted them after I told you to prove me wrong. What else was I supposed to believe? It didn't make any sense to me why you would go back so far and quote an old post if you weren't responding to me. How was I supposed to know that you didn't think these were from me if you posted them after I challenged you?

You were supposed to believe that I was replying to the posts I replied to. To reply to you I will hit "Reply" or "Quote" on YOUR post. That's how it's done. Am I not ever to post to anyone else again unless/until I reply to you? No one else misunderstood this. I have done nothing wrong here. I've apologized for anything I did wrong, and if you think I'm going to apologize because you assume every post that comes after yours in time is directed at you, that isn't going to happen. I am not wrong here, you are. Often replies don't come next to each other, not just this time but all the time, and as I said, I ALWAYS include what came before so it's clear what it's in reply to. As I said, let a mod sort it out. I did not do anything wrong. Report it.

Simply hitting reply to someone's post does not make it clear who you are replying to. That's why she got confused. If you want to reply to someone specifically, you need to hit the quote button.

Did you happen to notice the 490 quotes above mine????? Because they are there because I DID hit the quote button!!!!!!!!!!! She got confused because she asked me something and assumed that everything I posted after she asked was aimed at her!!!!! Which, BTW, is why I ALWAYS leave all the quotes on a post intact, and why this post has 491 replies attached to IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, if you actually wanted to be helpful, and since I already did what you say I should have done to make this clear and not confuse her, do you care to tell me exactly WHAT I COULD HAVE DONE TO MAKE WHO I WAS REPLYING TO ANY CLEARER?

EDIT: I have repaired the quotes as best I can. I don't code in a markup language very often, so it's not second nature. Because there are a lot, nesting them manually is difficult. But I'm still trying. You seem to be the one unfamiliar with quoting, since you seem to have deleted many of the quote tags. If you do that, the sense provided by quoting is lost.