There's no way I could ever eat 130g of protein
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There have been a lot of posts on here since i've come back, so I'll explain my thought process more.
I'm not a big fan of eggs, but I'll eat them. I cannot afford protein powders. I get a protein powder pack once a month that I hold onto for days that riding my fixie to work and back really destroys me. For those that dont know, this means I'm in one gear constantly, and will always be pedaling.
I dont eat hamburgers. turkey. or anything that generally comes from an animal. thus why I am a vegetarian. good thing we cleared that up.
however. you will catch me eating fish on occasion, hence the tuna salad sandwich and sushi. yum. i cannot afford to buy it though and it's a treat for when other people are well, treating.
i don't like to eat cheese either. it binds me up and my body is really sensitive to dairy, so i generally stick to soy or almond milk and otherwise skip the cheese.
i also dont like fake meat products. i prefer to eat as natural to the food itself as possible. on drunken nights you'll find me having consumed pizza, french fries, and the likes, but that's the worst of my damage. my junk food is granola and nuts.0 -
. I cannot afford protein powders. I get a protein powder pack once a month that I hold onto for days that riding my fixie to work and back really destroys me. For those that dont know, this means I'm in one gear constantly, and will always be pedaling.
however. you will catch me eating fish on occasion, hence the tuna salad sandwich and sushi. yum. i cannot afford to buy it though and it's a treat for when other people are well, treating.
if you are near a walmart, they have a very affordable protein shake that is pretty decent...it's only 15 bucks,and it lasts the better part of a month, if not longer.
as for tuna, chunk light store-brand tuna is anywhere from 60-80 cents a can, so it's about as affordable a food you can find. consider getting more of that in your diet, it can be really easy on your budget0 -
ur kidding right? so the goal is to lose muscle weight now?
you really never heard of anyone who said they are trying to lose weight so they decide to be a vegetarian??? really?? ur like twice as old as i am and ive heard it like dozens of times.
k find me a vegetarian that eats as much saturated fat as an omnivore as well as eating the same amount of protein from complete protein sources... u find that vegetarian and then there is no more major advantage for the omnivore. on a consistant basis mind you.
still with you if you dont think omniverous eating has advantages over vegetarian eating for body composition..more complete proteins, more variations in fats, creatine, etc.. not saying you cant get lean and ripped while being a vegetarian or vegan but the road is tougher without a doubt.. only be a vegetarian for some sort of ethical reason not to lose weight.
.. thats sort of why i said to start eating eggs. and if that were true then there wouldnt be questions like these. DUHHthis is why being vegetarian is not optimal for body composition.. too limited on foods for well balanced macros. start eatin some eggs gurl.
Vegetarians eat eggs.
And it is not that hard to get enough protein.
Its not hard with information - which is what she was asking for. A vegetarian diet is not too limited to get well balance macros. And did you even check if she was already eating eggs?
Who's the "DUHH' with now?
I totally agree that it is tougher - not impossible, but tougher. Its probably the different definition of 'optimal' we are using that is causing the disagreement. Optimal to me does not necessarily mean easier.
Wait while I send out a survey to the whole world.
Do a search on vegetarian body builders - there are a lot. A lot of people are vegetarians for ethical reasons and not for health reasons. I doubt any are vegetarians for 'body composition reasons'.
Love it when people bring up peoples age.
Of course I have.
ETA: losing weight and body composition (which you brought up) do not necessarily go hand in hand.0 -
If your a vegetarian, I would recommend that you try Pea Protien manufactured by NOW Sports. It packs 28g of protien per scoop! It would definately help you achieve your protien intake goal.0
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ur kidding right? so the goal is to lose muscle weight now?
you really never heard of anyone who said they are trying to lose weight so they decide to be a vegetarian??? really?? ur like twice as old as i am and ive heard it like dozens of times.
k find me a vegetarian that eats as much saturated fat as an omnivore as well as eating the same amount of protein from complete protein sources... u find that vegetarian and then there is no more major advantage for the omnivore. on a consistant basis mind you.
still with you if you dont think omniverous eating has advantages over vegetarian eating for body composition..more complete proteins, more variations in fats, creatine, etc.. not saying you cant get lean and ripped while being a vegetarian or vegan but the road is tougher without a doubt.. only be a vegetarian for some sort of ethical reason not to lose weight.
.. thats sort of why i said to start eating eggs. and if that were true then there wouldnt be questions like these. DUHHthis is why being vegetarian is not optimal for body composition.. too limited on foods for well balanced macros. start eatin some eggs gurl.
Vegetarians eat eggs.
And it is not that hard to get enough protein.
Its not hard with information - which is what she was asking for. A vegetarian diet is not too limited to get well balance macros. And did you even check if she was already eating eggs?
Who's the "DUHH' with now?
I totally agree that it is tougher - not impossible, but tougher. Its probably the different definition of 'optimal' we are using that is causing the disagreement. Optimal to me does not necessarily mean easier.
Wait while I send out a survey to the whole world.
Do a search on vegetarian body builders - there are a lot. A lot of people are vegetarians for ethical reasons and not for health reasons. I doubt any are vegetarians for 'body composition reasons'.
Love it when people bring up peoples age.
Of course I have.
ETA: losing weight and body composition (which you brought up) do not necessarily go hand in hand.
Reread the damn posts - and my responses.0 -
I cannot afford protein powders. I get a protein powder pack once a month that I hold onto for days that riding my fixie to work and back really destroys me.
in my experience, protein powders are much cheaper than meals cost, typically. for example, genisoy vanilla protein shake (which i drink constantly) is on amazon for $27 for a 2-pack, and that would be approx 36 servings, so 75 cents a serving.
are your meals less expensive than that?0 -
ur not making much sense.. " I doubt any are vegetarians for 'body composition reasons'." which contradicts information when you say "of course I have" to me asking if you have heard of someone losing weight to go vegetarian and not because of ethical or moral reasons.
ur kidding right? so the goal is to lose muscle weight now?
you really never heard of anyone who said they are trying to lose weight so they decide to be a vegetarian??? really?? ur like twice as old as i am and ive heard it like dozens of times.
k find me a vegetarian that eats as much saturated fat as an omnivore as well as eating the same amount of protein from complete protein sources... u find that vegetarian and then there is no more major advantage for the omnivore. on a consistant basis mind you.
still with you if you dont think omniverous eating has advantages over vegetarian eating for body composition..more complete proteins, more variations in fats, creatine, etc.. not saying you cant get lean and ripped while being a vegetarian or vegan but the road is tougher without a doubt.. only be a vegetarian for some sort of ethical reason not to lose weight.
.. thats sort of why i said to start eating eggs. and if that were true then there wouldnt be questions like these. DUHHthis is why being vegetarian is not optimal for body composition.. too limited on foods for well balanced macros. start eatin some eggs gurl.
Vegetarians eat eggs.
And it is not that hard to get enough protein.
Its not hard with information - which is what she was asking for. A vegetarian diet is not too limited to get well balance macros. And did you even check if she was already eating eggs?
Who's the "DUHH' with now?
I totally agree that it is tougher - not impossible, but tougher. Its probably the different definition of 'optimal' we are using that is causing the disagreement. Optimal to me does not necessarily mean easier.
Wait while I send out a survey to the whole world.
Do a search on vegetarian body builders - there are a lot. A lot of people are vegetarians for ethical reasons and not for health reasons. I doubt any are vegetarians for 'body composition reasons'.
Love it when people bring up peoples age.
Of course I have.
ETA: losing weight and body composition (which you brought up) do not necessarily go hand in hand.
Reread the damn posts - and my responses.
i have nothing against vegetarian dieting, just the impression that people get that becoming vegetarian that they will lose more weight than if they ate meat. if anything its the other way around.0 -
ur not making much sense.. " I doubt any are vegetarians for 'body composition reasons'." which contradicts information when you say "of course I have" to me asking if you have heard of someone losing weight to go vegetarian and not because of ethical or moral reasons.
i have nothing against vegetarian dieting, just the impression that people get that becoming vegetarian that they will lose more weight than if they ate meat. if anything its the other way around.
Taking the rest quotes off as this is getting a bit long.
I actually think we have ended up talking at cross purposes and you have mis-understood what I was trying to say. On this point I actually think we agree (shocker I know!)
My point about losing weight =/= body composition was making reference to the fact when people say they are a vegetarian to lose weigh does not mean they are doing it for body composition purposes. In other words: Some folks are vegetarians for ethical (including religious) reasons and will do the best they can to get the appropriate nutrition based on their goals. Some folks are vegetarians for health reasons (other than losing weight. Some people are vegetarians because they think it easier to lose weight. But I have never heard someone become a vegetarian to change their body composition.
BTW: apologies if I have mis-spoke for some vegetarians here - its just my personal experience I am noting here.0 -
I just added 1 tablespoon of brewer's yeast flakes to my fruit and greek yogurt. That single tablespoon had 8 grams of protein. I also add it into other things. I think some people substitute it for parmesan cheese on their pasta and also sprinkle it on popcorn or add it to a shake.0
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I just added 1 tablespoon of brewer's yeast flakes to my fruit and greek yogurt. That single tablespoon had 8 grams of protein. I also add it into other things. I think some people substitute it for parmesan cheese on their pasta and also sprinkle it on popcorn or add it to a shake.
I have never tried that - what does it taste like?0 -
I just added 1 tablespoon of brewer's yeast flakes to my fruit and greek yogurt. That single tablespoon had 8 grams of protein. I also add it into other things. I think some people substitute it for parmesan cheese on their pasta and also sprinkle it on popcorn or add it to a shake.
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this is why being vegetarian is not optimal for body composition.. too limited on foods for well balanced macros. start eatin some eggs gurl.
That's a blanket statement. That is not true of all people. Some people (like myself) are required to be a vegetarian for medical reasons. it's either be a vegetarian or end up in coma...or worse, die of brain damage. It's the choice of life or non-existence.0 -
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Greek yogurt, eggs, beans, more protein bars/shakes.
I can usually squeeze at least 80g protein without protein supplement fairly easily in my 1600 calorie limit.
I'm not sure if you eat fish, but fish is an outstanding source of lean protein. I know some vegetarians still periodically eat fish, so it's worth bringing up if you do.0 -
I just added 1 tablespoon of brewer's yeast flakes to my fruit and greek yogurt. That single tablespoon had 8 grams of protein. I also add it into other things. I think some people substitute it for parmesan cheese on their pasta and also sprinkle it on popcorn or add it to a shake.
I have never tried that - what does it taste like?
Some say it has sort of a cheesy taste to it. I can definitely tell that it's in my yogurt, but it isn't off-putting if I add fruit to it for more flavor. When I mix it into other things that have stronger flavor I can't really taste it. I am not vegetarian, so I have used it combined with ground meat, etc. and you can't taste it in there at all. I am thinking about trying it on my popcorn this week. May also add it to my brown rice or quinoa (after cooking) when we have stir-fry later on.0 -
LENTILS!
Lots of protein, lots of fiber and 80 cals/serving (1/4 c dry)0 -
I just added 1 tablespoon of brewer's yeast flakes to my fruit and greek yogurt. That single tablespoon had 8 grams of protein. I also add it into other things. I think some people substitute it for parmesan cheese on their pasta and also sprinkle it on popcorn or add it to a shake.
I have never tried that - what does it taste like?
Some say it has sort of a cheesy taste to it. I can definitely tell that it's in my yogurt, but it isn't off-putting if I add fruit to it for more flavor. When I mix it into other things that have stronger flavor I can't really taste it. I am not vegetarian, so I have used it combined with ground meat, etc. and you can't taste it in there at all. I am thinking about trying it on my popcorn this week.
Its going on my shopping list - will definately need to try it out, particularly on popcorn. Thanks for that.0 -
awesome, I eat meat but i don't eat any form of dairy so i'm having a hard time reaching my protein too. Thanx for all the suggestions!0
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I just added 1 tablespoon of brewer's yeast flakes to my fruit and greek yogurt. That single tablespoon had 8 grams of protein. I also add it into other things. I think some people substitute it for parmesan cheese on their pasta and also sprinkle it on popcorn or add it to a shake.
I have never tried that - what does it taste like?
Some say it has sort of a cheesy taste to it. I can definitely tell that it's in my yogurt, but it isn't off-putting if I add fruit to it for more flavor. When I mix it into other things that have stronger flavor I can't really taste it. I am not vegetarian, so I have used it combined with ground meat, etc. and you can't taste it in there at all. I am thinking about trying it on my popcorn this week. May also add it to my brown rice or quinoa (after cooking) when we have stir-fry later on.
People don't use brewers yeast for a cheese substitute, they use NUTRITIONAL yeast. they are not the same...
"Brewers yeast is a one-celled fungus, and used in brewing of beer. Brewers yeast is actually a by-product of the brewing process. Nutritional yeast is grown on molasses as a nutritional supplement. Neither are the same types of yeast as you use baking bread for example. Brewers yeast and nutritional yeast are not alive; they are deactivated. Brewers yeast has a more bitter taste than nutritional yeast. Many people say that nutritional yeast has a cheese flavor and like to add it to popcorn and pasta sauces."0 -
Great topic! Thanks for all the suggestions.0
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As copied from http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/419791-protein-deficiency-for-vegetarians
"The World Health Organization puts a lot of work into figuring these things out (for pretty obvious reasons). I also feel like they're perhaps less subject to the lobbying efforts of the meat and dairy industries, which I worry about with US FDA recommendations (I'm from the U.S. so that's my governmental reference). There is a detailed report here
http://whqlibdoc.who.int/trs/WHO_TRS_935_eng.pdf
with a table on page 87 for ratio of protein calories to total calories for adults and children of different ages and body sizes. My reading is their recommendations are all under 10% of calories from protein. Most vegetables and whole grains easily make this mark. Although you have to be careful, because added fat upsets this balance pretty quickly. For example, if you're sauteing vegetables in oil (which isn't bad in moderation), the oil adds a lot of calories, and no protein. "0 -
As copied from http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/419791-protein-deficiency-for-vegetarians
"The World Health Organization puts a lot of work into figuring these things out (for pretty obvious reasons). I also feel like they're perhaps less subject to the lobbying efforts of the meat and dairy industries, which I worry about with US FDA recommendations (I'm from the U.S. so that's my governmental reference). There is a detailed report here
http://whqlibdoc.who.int/trs/WHO_TRS_935_eng.pdf
with a table on page 87 for ratio of protein calories to total calories for adults and children of different ages and body sizes. My reading is their recommendations are all under 10% of calories from protein. Most vegetables and whole grains easily make this mark. Although you have to be careful, because added fat upsets this balance pretty quickly. For example, if you're sauteing vegetables in oil (which isn't bad in moderation), the oil adds a lot of calories, and no protein. "
If you're trying to gain muscle, 1-1.5g per lb of lean mass is recommended. These low recommendations are designed for the average lard *kitten* who does no exercise.0 -
Wait... how do you tell what your LEAN body mass % is????
You find out your body fat% and whats not fat is considered LBM I believe.
I have no idea what my body fat% is... Haha. Ah well. No biggee!0 -
You can estimate it with one of these type calculators:Wait... how do you tell what your LEAN body mass % is????
You find out your body fat% and whats not fat is considered LBM I believe.
I have no idea what my body fat% is... Haha. Ah well. No biggee!
http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/diet.html0 -
You can estimate it with one of these type calculators:Wait... how do you tell what your LEAN body mass % is????
You find out your body fat% and whats not fat is considered LBM I believe.
I have no idea what my body fat% is... Haha. Ah well. No biggee!
http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/diet.html
Oh! Well, thank you.
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It's a rough estimate, but better than nothing at all.
Oh! Well, thank you.0 -
those would be most all of my suggestions.... also any bean; black ,cannelini, chickpea, white etc. is total protein. check out some clean baking recipes with protein powder in them.
http://www.billandchelle.com/fitness/recipes.html#Chelles_Mexican_Pizza
this girl is a clean eater and has some great recipes on her site!0 -
BLACK soybeans are an excellent source, and lower in carbs than some of the other beans. If that matters to you.those would be most all of my suggestions.... also any bean; black ,cannelini, chickpea, white etc. is total protein. check out some clean baking recipes with protein powder in them.
http://www.billandchelle.com/fitness/recipes.html#Chelles_Mexican_Pizza
this girl is a clean eater and has some great recipes on her site!0 -
The only way i can do it is by eatingI've been lifting 3x a week this month based on the NROLFW. I also bike 2x a week 10 miles on a fixed gear, so it takes a lot out of my legs. I'm also a vegetarian.
According to most sources, they claim that you should eat a gram of protein for every pound you weigh, which means I should be aiming for about 135g.
On a GOOD day I can hit 50, and that's if I drink a protein shake. On most days I'm anywhere between 25 - 30. Along with this, I need to make sure I'm eating a lot of fiber to keep myself regular. Oatmeal destroys my stomach and so does granola in large quantities, so I need to be sensitive to how I get my fiber.
So how the crap can I get the protein my muscles need to keep up with the demand, eat my fiber, and keep within 1600-1800 calories?
This is way too much to think about. Meeehh.
tuna 4oz=26g protein (100 calories)
& talapia 8oz 46g protein(220 calories
turkey sausage 13g protein (120 calories)
protein shake 25g protein (105 calories)
protein bar 20g protein (calorie depends on bar)
EDIT: Fish keeps me regular!0 -
I just added 1 tablespoon of brewer's yeast flakes to my fruit and greek yogurt. That single tablespoon had 8 grams of protein. I also add it into other things. I think some people substitute it for parmesan cheese on their pasta and also sprinkle it on popcorn or add it to a shake.
I have never tried that - what does it taste like?
I think they meant nutritional yeast, not brewer's yeast. It tastes good mixed in with other things - a bit cheesy tasting.
Unfortunately there are many folks who don't know about the abundance of protein rich vegetarian food choices. You get better support on the vegetarian/vegan groups here, as there is a whole community of folks who get plenty of protein without eating meat. It is not a mainstream lifestyle you have to go a bit out of your way to find foods that work for you. I cook almost all of my own food because it is too hard to find healthy options at mainstream restaurants.
A lot of people know about quinoa but check out amaranth and canahua grains - high in protein and very tasty. My breakfast is a blend of quinoa, amaranth and canahua with almonds fruits and soymilk. 19 grams of protein there.
Lucerne nonfat greek yogurt has 19 grams of protein in 8 oz. With this as a snack I'm already close to 40 before lunch or dinner.
Quorn, beans, peas, tempeh, eggs and nofat cottage cheese are other staples for me. I eat occasional soy/fake meat but am not that fond of them, more of something high protein when I'm in a rush. Watch out for hi carb low protein veggie burgers. Look for veggies that are high in protein like spinach. I am in weight burning mode, not heavy lifting and don't need 100+ g of protein (only eating 1200--1500 cal/day) but I regularly hit 60-80 g protein without trying hard. If/when I transition to muscle building / lifting (I hope to) then I plan to supplement with protein shakes and perhaps more yogurt. Currently only having 1 serving of yogurt per day but it is so yummy I could easily do more.0
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