If you are scared to increase calories

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  • mdj1501
    mdj1501 Posts: 392 Member
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    I have read alot of info on this.. It is just hard to get past the mentality of eating more when I have spent my whole life thinking I could only lose by eating less... the mind is powerful.
  • sleepytexan
    sleepytexan Posts: 3,138 Member
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    @Sleepy Texan-

    I've noticed you responded to a couple of posts - inconsistent exercisers to eat BMR + exercise cals. Which BMR Should we go with?

    For me, Harris Benedict shows my bmr to be 1654
    Katch-McArdle shows my BMR to be 1391

    There is a difference of 263 cals.....

    I'd start with the lower amount and then continue to push it upwards. Remember these are estimates, and they might even be LOW! Increase your calories to 1391 and wait until you stabilize, then continue to push it upward slowly, maybe 100 cals at a time, over several weeks or months. My TDEE is 2271, but I find I can eat up to 2400/day and only gain 1 lb, then hold.

    The goal is to make it to your ideal weight and live the rest of your life without gaining. The threshhold can be gradually increased until you find a tipping point that makes you gain (not a single day increase, but sustained over time). When you find the magic number, you win.
  • laurenk08
    laurenk08 Posts: 89 Member
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    I am one of those people who eat 1200 calories a day and workout 5-6 days a week with strength a couple days a week as well... and i did stall in weight loss so i increased my calories to 1400 and still worked out 5-6 days a week....and then i gained instead of lost... sooo now i have to work hard again to lose the couple of pounds i gained and to continue towards my goal weight.

    I think it is different for everyone, so I plan on just sticking it out, eating healthy, staying active and waiting for the plateau to stop pleateuing :]
  • neverstray
    neverstray Posts: 3,845 Member
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    The original instructions at the top of this thread don't say anything about cutting a percent out for weight loss. Is this necessary or something I shoud do? I assume the answer is no, but since people keep talking about it, I want to know if that step was left out. Right now, I'm just going by what fattofitradio.com said. And, I'm not cutting any cals from where it said I should be eating.
  • sleepytexan
    sleepytexan Posts: 3,138 Member
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    I have read alot of info on this.. It is just hard to get past the mentality of eating more when I have spent my whole life thinking I could only lose by eating less... the mind is powerful.

    Well, the question for you is, are you content to live the rest of your life eating at your current level? If yes, fine. If you like the idea of living life without severe calorie restriction AND at goal weight, make a change.

    It's your life. Live it your way.
  • sjackson1717
    sjackson1717 Posts: 94 Member
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  • sleepytexan
    sleepytexan Posts: 3,138 Member
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    The original instructions at the top of this thread don't say anything about cutting a percent out for weight loss. Is this necessary or something I shoud do? I assume the answer is no, but since people keep talking about it, I want to know if that step was left out. Right now, I'm just going by what fattofitradio.com said. And, I'm not cutting any cals from where it said I should be eating.

    F2F suggests eating at the TDEE for your ideal weight. If you do that, a deficit already exists, because, presumably, your current weight is higher than your goal weight.

    When you get close, you may find that your TDEE becomes the SAME as your goal weight TDEE, but that you're not there yet.

    For example, I weigh 130 lbs. My "goal" used to be 127 lbs. (actually since I am lifting heavy now, my new goal is increasing muscle mass, so my weight is probably going to go up), but ANYWAY, the TDEE for me at 130 lbs. is the same as it would be for me at 127 lbs, or even 120 lbs. If I really wanted to drop more weight, I could (quit lifting heavy, ha), and cut another 200-300 calories a day, then ease back up when I got to the lower weight.

    I think a few people discussed eating at your CURRENT TDEE (and scooby's website talks about current TDEE) minus a particular percentage.

    It's all the same theory; eat at the TDEE of your goal weight, or eat at your current TDEE minus a percentage if you're still trying to lose.

    If you want to maintain, eat at your current TDEE; and likewise you would eat at a surplus above your TDEE if you are trying to gain muscle mass (of course you must lift heavy in conjunction with that).
  • sleepytexan
    sleepytexan Posts: 3,138 Member
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    I am one of those people who eat 1200 calories a day and workout 5-6 days a week with strength a couple days a week as well... and i did stall in weight loss so i increased my calories to 1400 and still worked out 5-6 days a week....and then i gained instead of lost... sooo now i have to work hard again to lose the couple of pounds i gained and to continue towards my goal weight.

    I think it is different for everyone, so I plan on just sticking it out, eating healthy, staying active and waiting for the plateau to stop pleateuing :]

    I'm sorry you are on the yo-yo. I will warn you (as you probably already know), that unless you invest the time to increase your calories gradually and get to a sustainable number, you will either a) not reach goal, or b) reach goal, but gain again as soon as you get there and try to maintain on anything above 1200.

    The longer you stay at 1200, the longer it will take to readjust.

    blessings.
  • neverstray
    neverstray Posts: 3,845 Member
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    The original instructions at the top of this thread don't say anything about cutting a percent out for weight loss. Is this necessary or something I shoud do? I assume the answer is no, but since people keep talking about it, I want to know if that step was left out. Right now, I'm just going by what fattofitradio.com said. And, I'm not cutting any cals from where it said I should be eating.

    F2F suggests eating at the TDEE for your ideal weight. If you do that, a deficit already exists, because, presumably, your current weight is higher than your goal weight.

    When you get close, you may find that your TDEE becomes the SAME as your goal weight TDEE, but that you're not there yet.

    For example, I weigh 130 lbs. My "goal" used to be 127 lbs. (actually since I am lifting heavy now, my new goal is increasing muscle mass, so my weight is probably going to go up), but ANYWAY, the TDEE for me at 130 lbs. is the same as it would be for me at 127 lbs, or even 120 lbs. If I really wanted to drop more weight, I could (quit lifting heavy, ha), and cut another 200-300 calories a day, then ease back up when I got to the lower weight.

    I think a few people discussed eating at your CURRENT TDEE (and scooby's website talks about current TDEE) minus a particular percentage.

    It's all the same theory; eat at the TDEE of your goal weight, or eat at your current TDEE minus a percentage if you're still trying to lose.

    If you want to maintain, eat at your current TDEE; and likewise you would eat at a surplus above your TDEE if you are trying to gain muscle mass (of course you must lift heavy in conjunction with that).

    OK. That makes sense. I'll check my calculations and make sure I did it right. i think I am using my goal weight TDEE, but I'll make sure.
  • ElHombre23
    ElHombre23 Posts: 126 Member
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    Alot of interesting information from regular people...I asked my doctor and my old boxing trainer and their advice was so similar I had to share. It goes like this. Eat sensibly and get off your *kitten*...no calorie counting no equations no fluff just good ol fashion building of good healthy habbits for a healthy lifestyle.
  • PayShi
    PayShi Posts: 55 Member
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    Interesting. I am at goal and i am scared to increase calories, but I'm not losing anymore either. I do feel "hungry", weak and kinda shaky every few hours, which to me says i'm probably not eating enough at my "meals". I've never had to think this hard about maintaining a healthy body and menu before....SIGH!!!
    I'm not sure if someone had replied to you, so if they had I apologize. I was very curious about this despite how far away from my goal I am so I looked on a different forum one night and a lot of VERY successful people agreed to increase your calorie intake 100 calories at a time every week until you reach your maintenance calorie goal. Maybe give it a whirl? Hope this was even a tiny bit helpful. Good job and good luck!
  • sleepytexan
    sleepytexan Posts: 3,138 Member
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    Alot of interesting information from regular people...I asked my doctor and my old boxing trainer and their advice was so similar I had to share. It goes like this. Eat sensibly and get off your *kitten*...no calorie counting no equations no fluff just good ol fashion building of good healthy habbits for a healthy lifestyle.

    great. go ahead and do that. some regular people were just trying to be helpful, that's all.
  • Kincar
    Kincar Posts: 601 Member
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    Alot of interesting information from regular people...I asked my doctor and my old boxing trainer and their advice was so similar I had to share. It goes like this. Eat sensibly and get off your *kitten*...no calorie counting no equations no fluff just good ol fashion building of good healthy habbits for a healthy lifestyle.

    great. go ahead and do that. some regular people were just trying to be helpful, that's all.

    I'll never understand why people have to go on threads and complain about what other people are doing. :huh: Why not just start a thread to talk about the wonderful they are doing?

    BTW, after weeks of being stuck when i was eating less, I'm thrilled that I've lost 2 lbs. Increasing my calories works for me.
  • ElHombre23
    ElHombre23 Posts: 126 Member
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    Alot of interesting information from regular people...I asked my doctor and my old boxing trainer and their advice was so similar I had to share. It goes like this. Eat sensibly and get off your *kitten*...no calorie counting no equations no fluff just good ol fashion building of good healthy habbits for a healthy lifestyle.

    great. go ahead and do that. some regular people were just trying to be helpful, that's all.

    I'll never understand why people have to go on threads and complain about what other people are doing. :huh: Why not just start a thread to talk about the wonderful they are doing?

    BTW, after weeks of being stuck when i was eating less, I'm thrilled that I've lost 2 lbs. Increasing my calories works for me.



    My apologies if my statement was taken out of context...Im a huge advocate for doing whatever you have to do to get your results. I really hope we all make it to our goals no matter how we do it...
  • Femtec74
    Femtec74 Posts: 347 Member
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    Thanks! That's extremely helpful to me since I'm just starting my journey! I do worry about too many calories so it's nice to see what other people eat and how many calories they consume in a day! :smile:
    If you would have told me 3 months ago that I could be eating 2500 calories a day and still lose 3 inches off my waist I would have told you that you were full of something! :) Thanks to the many other people that I gained this information from, I am here to tell you it works. You will never have to "diet" again.

    Me too - I increased my calories when I started running and lifting after a long inner debate. I was feeling tired all the time and my weight loss began to stall. It was the best decision I ever made. I feel so much better now and my weight loss has picked back up.
  • hyde1977
    hyde1977 Posts: 476 Member
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  • sedosher
    sedosher Posts: 142 Member
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    Need to read later...
  • lillebanon
    lillebanon Posts: 214 Member
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    I have also been having great success eating more, and have similar (and more detailed) instructions on how anybody can do it in my blog:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/lillebanon/view/my-take-on-eating-more-to-weigh-less-254554

    And of course as mentioned before, the awesome group, Eat More to Weigh Less:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/3834-eat-more-to-weigh-less
  • dlyeates
    dlyeates Posts: 875 Member
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    Definitely interesting. I've been doing research and upping my calories and I'm still on a plateau but I'm staying the course. According to this my TDEE is around 2196. I've currently set my calories around 1750 and I eat back my calories which on workout days brings me up around 2200 give or take.

    Does this mean I should be eating 2196 everyday or just workout days. I'm obviously a work in progress but I really want to lose the last 20 lbs!!
  • nszocinski
    nszocinski Posts: 156 Member
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