If you have an amazing body you are clearly OBSESSED
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we have obsession in everything ranging from playing games, hobby, money, etc.... it just need to be control in healthy level0
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I suppose it depends on the person. My SO/Ex/it's-complicated/whatever is extremely muscular (also a personal trainer) and he is addicted to the gym, rather than obsessed. He has an addictive personality, so it makes sense, I guess.. But number one priority each day is to work out. His diet is not strict by any means, but he works his *kitten* off enough to make up for it.
I feel "obsessed" is a strong word. Could easily be mistaken in your example as "dedicated".
Then again, what do I know. :P *Carries on...*0 -
I mean, I'm extremely far from a perfect body.. but I'm pretty obsessed with getting there. I would prefer a man that is just as committed to a healthy lifestyle and fitness as I am. Several guys I know have AMAZING bodies and compete as body builders or power lifters. Their world does revolve around diet/fitness/shape.. but they are still incredibly great guys... and I enjoy our time talking/hanging out/and working out together when we can.0
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I think there is a difference between dedication and an obsession
I have a friend that talks about the gym ALLLLL the time....nothing else comes out of her mouth except working out etc..she annoys the **** out of me!
I dont know if she is trying to show off, or clearly obsessed
My other GF who has done fitness shows etc and has an amazing body and is clearly very very dedicated doesnt talk about it half as much....0 -
I don't like the genetics argument.
So you don't believe that certain people are more predisposed to be lean while others are predisposed to the other end of the spectrum? Not trolling, curious for realz.0 -
I don't like the genetics argument.
So you don't believe that certain people are more predisposed to be lean while others are predisposed to the other end of the spectrum? Not trolling, curious for realz.
I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on that one. I have a couple of buddies who I have gone through the fitness process with. I rack up gainz faster than both of them, with us sticking to the same essential dietary plan and following the same workout protocols. When it comes time to cut, however, they both shed bf% like mad whereas I have a ***** of a time cutting down. I wholly believe (and a fair amount of science supports) that there are genetic predispositions. Notice I haven't ever said that any of them are insurmountable. I just think that people have advantages on one end of the spectrum or another, and end up having to work harder at one thing than another.0 -
I guess I'd consider myself pretty obsessive. I don't think it's a bad thing though!0
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To be completely honest, yes, I am a little obsessed with my appearance.0
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Maybe I'm older than many of you; maybe I've just had different life experiences... but I've spent time being obsessed and I've spent time being focused on other things that needed my attention at the time. I think a great quality is adaptability... recognizing that sometimes life happens to you and you have to work with what you have.
I have always been dedicated to achieving my goals. I've never set a goal I didn't achieve. But, for instance, when my husband fell from our balcony and broke his ribs, collapsed a lung and bruised his liver and was virtually immobile for a few weeks, I was pregnant with our first child, working full time and taking care of him. Not much time left for the gym or even meal planning. Maintaining health is a minimum, but maintaining an "ideal" body weight and ripped appearance is unnecessary when it comes at the expense of your family.
A few years later, my husband was killed in a motorcycle accident and I had a 4 year old and a 2 month old to care for while I grieved... getting in my workouts was the last thing on my mind.
Life has many ups and downs and if you choose a partner based on looks and commitment to fitness, you may be disappointed down the line when one person's commitment wavers and the other's doesn't. I would say I look more for the overcomer than the achiever. But that's me...
I'm happily remarried to a wonderful man who is not perfect, but he's an awesome husband and a great dad to my kids.0 -
When I first met my hubby he was built. It was certainly nice, but very intimidating and made me feel very insecure. Over the years his devotion to his body has turned into devotion to his work and providing for his family he now has, so his body has been let go. I'd rather have his devotion pointed to where it is now then his physical appearance, so I would say I go with the average body choice. His personality is still the same, and I love him more now than I did when he was built up.0
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"Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated."0
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I don't like the genetics argument.
So you don't believe that certain people are more predisposed to be lean while others are predisposed to the other end of the spectrum? Not trolling, curious for realz.
I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on that one. I have a couple of buddies who I have gone through the fitness process with. I rack up gainz faster than both of them, with us sticking to the same essential dietary plan and following the same workout protocols. When it comes time to cut, however, they both shed bf% like mad whereas I have a ***** of a time cutting down. I wholly believe (and a fair amount of science supports) that there are genetic predispositions. Notice I haven't ever said that any of them are insurmountable. I just think that people have advantages on one end of the spectrum or another, and end up having to work harder at one thing than another.0 -
As the saying goes....'obsessed' is the word that the lazy people use to describe the dedicated.
Of course, I personally think that the ideal person would be someone who can find the balance between being dedicated to leading a healthy lifestyle but also has the ability to live a little by letting loose every once in awhile...0 -
I don't like the genetics argument.
So you don't believe that certain people are more predisposed to be lean while others are predisposed to the other end of the spectrum? Not trolling, curious for realz.
I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on that one. I have a couple of buddies who I have gone through the fitness process with. I rack up gainz faster than both of them, with us sticking to the same essential dietary plan and following the same workout protocols. When it comes time to cut, however, they both shed bf% like mad whereas I have a ***** of a time cutting down. I wholly believe (and a fair amount of science supports) that there are genetic predispositions. Notice I haven't ever said that any of them are insurmountable. I just think that people have advantages on one end of the spectrum or another, and end up having to work harder at one thing than another.0 -
There's a fine line between passion and obsession. The virtue is to know the difference.0
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I don't like the genetics argument.
So you don't believe that certain people are more predisposed to be lean while others are predisposed to the other end of the spectrum? Not trolling, curious for realz.
I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on that one. I have a couple of buddies who I have gone through the fitness process with. I rack up gainz faster than both of them, with us sticking to the same essential dietary plan and following the same workout protocols. When it comes time to cut, however, they both shed bf% like mad whereas I have a ***** of a time cutting down. I wholly believe (and a fair amount of science supports) that there are genetic predispositions. Notice I haven't ever said that any of them are insurmountable. I just think that people have advantages on one end of the spectrum or another, and end up having to work harder at one thing than another.0 -
I don't like the genetics argument.
So you don't believe that certain people are more predisposed to be lean while others are predisposed to the other end of the spectrum? Not trolling, curious for realz.
I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on that one. I have a couple of buddies who I have gone through the fitness process with. I rack up gainz faster than both of them, with us sticking to the same essential dietary plan and following the same workout protocols. When it comes time to cut, however, they both shed bf% like mad whereas I have a ***** of a time cutting down. I wholly believe (and a fair amount of science supports) that there are genetic predispositions. Notice I haven't ever said that any of them are insurmountable. I just think that people have advantages on one end of the spectrum or another, and end up having to work harder at one thing than another.
There is a lot of really weird twisting of context of my original post going on here. All I stated was that achieving an "amazing" body (in most cases I think we can agree that for men this is based on a low bf% with a reasonable amount of LBM) presents different challenges for different people. I don't believe I ever expressed envy or obsessed over that topic. What I did say was that for me, achieving this aesthetic *ideal* would require a degree of dedication that I think would qualify as obsession. Whether or not I decide to put that much into the effort is, ultimately, up to me.0 -
I don't like the genetics argument.
So you don't believe that certain people are more predisposed to be lean while others are predisposed to the other end of the spectrum? Not trolling, curious for realz.
I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on that one. I have a couple of buddies who I have gone through the fitness process with. I rack up gainz faster than both of them, with us sticking to the same essential dietary plan and following the same workout protocols. When it comes time to cut, however, they both shed bf% like mad whereas I have a ***** of a time cutting down. I wholly believe (and a fair amount of science supports) that there are genetic predispositions. Notice I haven't ever said that any of them are insurmountable. I just think that people have advantages on one end of the spectrum or another, and end up having to work harder at one thing than another.
There is a lot of really weird twisting of context of my original post going on here. All I stated was that achieving an "amazing" body (in most cases I think we can agree that for men this is based on a low bf% with a reasonable amount of LBM) presents different challenges for different people. I don't believe I ever expressed envy or obsessed over that topic. What I did say was that for me, achieving this aesthetic *ideal* would require a degree of dedication that I think would qualify as obsession. Whether or not I decide to put that much into the effort is, ultimately, up to me.
So I agree with the poster who says genetics is an excuse, not a reason.0 -
i HATE when people try to put a % on diet vs. exercise. NOT TRUE. It's fallacious and misleading. Depends on the individual.0
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I think she is only half right. I have met a ton of men who are like she described but I've also met many, including my husband, that are just dedicated and enjoy fitness. It's when every conversation, activity and meal in their lives revolve around physical fitness that it starts getting annoying.0
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Last night, I had an indian which was two different dishes, a kheema naan, popadoms, a large preztel, 1/4 tub of ben and jerries, 2 cookies, a pint, pistachios, 4-5 jaeger bombs, several handfuls of tortilla chips and dip etc etc - plus more I can't remember. No need to not have fun and let your hair down weekly, sometimes twice. I do and look like:
Now I know I have a fairly decent physique - you don't have to be obsessed to have a decent body.0 -
How's the flying? hehe0
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Why judge people based on how "obsessed" or not they are with their bodies? Some people have to eat a lot to be fat, some can eat very little and still be fat. Same goes for being thin or fit, some people are just naturally more active and don't have to worry much about what they eat, some people have to worry more and make conscious effort. It's just how people/bodies work.0
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Guys who care about their body are sexy.
But it is a turn off if they're consumed by it, or unable to loosen up because they will only do certain things.
I like a happy medium :-)0 -
i HATE when people try to put a % on diet vs. exercise. NOT TRUE. It's fallacious and misleading. Depends on the individual.
It does not depend on the individual. Everyone wants to believe that their body is different, or behaves differently, but it really doesn't. We are all the same species, we are all the same. Most perceived "differences" are purely psychological in nature.0 -
How's the flying? hehe
i almost spit out my water.. god that was funny as hell0 -
Last night, I had an indian which was two different dishes, a kheema naan, popadoms, a large preztel, 1/4 tub of ben and jerries, 2 cookies, a pint, pistachios, 4-5 jaeger bombs, several handfuls of tortilla chips and dip etc etc - plus more I can't remember. No need to not have fun and let your hair down weekly, sometimes twice. I do and look like:
Now I know I have a fairly decent physique - you don't have to be obsessed to have a decent body.
I happen to love Indian food.0 -
i HATE when people try to put a % on diet vs. exercise. NOT TRUE. It's fallacious and misleading. Depends on the individual.
It does not depend on the individual. Everyone wants to believe that their body is different, or behaves differently, but it really doesn't. We are all the same species, we are all the same. Most perceived "differences" are purely psychological in nature.
Yeah cause every football player, bodybuilder, and Olympian counts their calories.0 -
i HATE when people try to put a % on diet vs. exercise. NOT TRUE. It's fallacious and misleading. Depends on the individual.
It does not depend on the individual. Everyone wants to believe that their body is different, or behaves differently, but it really doesn't. We are all the same species, we are all the same. Most perceived "differences" are purely psychological in nature.
Also please school me on HOW you quantify this. Seems theoretical at best. I know i didn't get my physique through "90% diet"0 -
I prefer a guy that looks tall dark and handsome # 1 with me is eyes. #2 is humor #3 is how he treats me..... I don't care if he has muscles, or cut or whatever. I like a guy to be just right.. Whatever just right is for him. I HATE big bulky muscles... on a guy or girl... and I hate guys obsessed with anything... unless, of course, its me. lol0
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