When did this site become so judgmental ?
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It started getting judgmental about the same time that every new person posted the same question without using the search feature... so... pretty much when it was started... welcome to the internet, some people like to hold hands and encourage dumb behavior and some of us dislike stupid all together... it happens.
Those that run the site have stated that they prefer the "same old" questions be asked repeatedly and that "conversations happen". It's not stupid to have conversations.0 -
Welcome to humanity.0
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I had a college professor once make a statement that stuck with me about how "rude" has become the socially acceptable norm. On a forum this size you're bound to run into this. And while some people just don't care if they are rude and in fact feed on the drama, others don't even realize how they are coming across but will be defensive to the end if you try to point it out.
So unfortunately this post will probably be pretty ineffective towards it's target audience.
There may be some not so tactful people on here but trust me, after trying out a bunch of health forums last month trying to find a good one, this by far has the most welcoming people. I think we just have to ignore or block the others and not let it affect our perception of the forum as a whole.
Love this!! lol.0 -
some people enjoy being *kitten*. brush it off & move on.0
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are there any people here who are too sensitive? how can a stranger on the internet offend you? the only way a stranger can offend you is if you allow them too.0
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THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I havent had but one person that I was friends with me, judge. I have had the COMPLETE opposite experience. I love this place! i love my friends... and I find it incredibly motivating, inspiring and helps me stay on track. The world is filled with *kitten*... I think there are VERY few here.0
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I think the internet brews anonymity (sp?) which allows people a certain and sometimes inappropriate freedom to say whatever they think they are entitled to say. Sadly most of the time people say things in a manner than can often be harsh or misinterpreted and sometimes write things carelessly that they would not say or write in the same manner as they would if they were standing in front of the person.
Everyone is truly entitled to their own opinion, but in real life ... out side of that computer screen that we all are looking at in this moment... would you really type that insult or pass that judgement out loud ? Our common courtesy.. ergo our superego... spares the people in front of us from the harsh truths or badly stated thoughts in our mind.
I'm really glad that someone said something, being new to this site .. but not the internet of course... I tend search but not post because I quickly get turned off from forums and writing for that very reason.. *cheers* and thank you !0 -
Welcome to humanity.
Bottom line- controversy is good for the site. Encourages discussion, discourse and disagreement. More people see the ads and participate. All good. People that get hurt feelings might need to adjust the value they place on the supposed offending random stranger on the internet.0 -
I have been on myfitnesspal on and off for almost a year. When I first started I loved it. The people on here were extremely motivating, kind, and helpful. Now all of sudden there is so much criticism, people are being rude, judgmental, and outright mean sometimes. I'm seeing forum after forum of fighting and opinions that are just so nasty. When people are posting questions it's because they are looking for help, not to be attacked about everything they are doing wrong. This site has become full of know it all type people. Certain things work for some, while it doesn't work for everyone. I'm simply posting this as a reminder to be kind to people on here and help people as much as you can. motivation for our new lifestyle is key. keep myfitnesspal as a great place to lose weight and make new friends. Remember, we are all here for the same reason.
I do have to say I completely agree with you. My way of dealing with all this is summed up in a phrase taken from an organization I belonged to a long time ago. "Do not be offensive and do not be easily offended." This philosophy has served me well for many years…0 -
Agree!0
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i agree0
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You are so right!
Just today a new member asked if she should eat her exercise calories, and some douche wrote back that maybe she should search before she posts stupid questions. How rude is that!
Maybe new members dont know they can search, who knows, whatever the reason is, there is no need to be rude when people are looking for help !
And you know what, its always the obsessive fit maniacs (who were in our position one year ago!!!) that feel like they know everything because perhaps their journey is complete... Just because your journey is complete does not mean you have to obstruct somebody else's journey !!!
HMPH! got me all riled up .. lol
That is because those can-I-eat-back-exercise-calories thing have been asked a lot of times which is why it becomes irritating especially if you've been here for a long time now. However its not correct to say "search before posting stupid questions", that guy should've said it better like "I (insert his own opinion) but I think it would be better if you also search for this question since it has been asked a lot of times here so in this way you can get some helpful tips"
Using the word OBSESSIVE to all in-shape people are offensive. Its not that we feel we know everything but most of us are talking based on our own experiences. Of course most of us who have made it have undergone thru hard times & also asked a lot of questions or did a research before & worked so that's why we only want to share what we have learned to those who are still on the journey. Now I don't know about those obstructing other's journey & sorry if you encounter one but most of the these folks are being helpful. Perhaps you just misunderstood it.0 -
I have surrounded myself with kind supportive people and for the most part ignore the snarky folks. It works for me!
FYI, telling someone thet're doing something harmful to themselves is not mean or judgemental. Nothing to do with the above quote, just needed to say it.
I have surrounded myself with snarky witty people and for the most part ignore the cleansing juicing folks. It works for me!0 -
amen to that0
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because people forgot how to use their god given common sense.. that why.0
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The problem is different people have different limits on what is and is not acceptable behavior. You can't control what other people do..just you.
^^This. I really don't think it has changed much since I started, there are just a ton more people on with opinions to spew.0 -
I have been here for a long time -much longer than what my joined date implies. I don't think the site has become less supportive or more judgmental.
There are some people who are *kitten* and some people who feel that any disagreement is rude and get hurt feelings over every comment, but the majority of the posters here fall somewhere in the middle. As far as I can tell, it has always been that way.
I'm sorry your experience has been different than mine, because I have learned a great deal about fitness here, and I continue to do so.0 -
I've asked questions about certain things and people get so rude and nasty especially on food,fitness,and cleanses and juicing that type of stuff
I read that and didn't think anyone was being rude. Disagreement isn't rude. A lot of people on here are sensitive to that IMO
^^this - they were being rude (justifiably) about Dr Oz, not the poster.0 -
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You are so right!
Just today a new member asked if she should eat her exercise calories, and some douche wrote back that maybe she should search before she posts stupid questions. How rude is that!
Maybe new members dont know they can search, who knows, whatever the reason is, there is no need to be rude when people are looking for help !
And you know what, its always the obsessive fit maniacs (who were in our position one year ago!!!) that feel like they know everything because perhaps their journey is complete... Just because your journey is complete does not mean you have to obstruct somebody else's journey !!!
HMPH! got me all riled up .. lol
That is because those can-I-eat-back-exercise-calories thing have been asked a lot of times which is why it becomes irritating especially if you've been here for a long time now. However its not correct to say "search before posting stupid questions", that guy should've said it better like "I (insert his own opinion) but I think it would be better if you also search for this question since it has been asked a lot of times here so in this way you can get some helpful tips"
Using the word OBSESSIVE to all in-shape people are offensive. Its not that we feel we know everything but most of us are talking based on our own experiences. Of course most of us who have made it have undergone thru hard times & also asked a lot of questions or did a research before & worked so that's why we only want to share what we have learned to those who are still on the journey. Now I don't know about those obstructing other's journey & sorry if you encounter one but most of the these folks are being helpful. Perhaps you just misunderstood it.
Actually, I find the search function not very good.e.g if I search "exercise calories" I get the last post on that subject and if there was an active thread on that subject I can get pages on that specific thread before I get a new another thread.
If a people tired of a question topic why do they even open the thread?0 -
Things would be a lot easier if everyone read
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/474-unofficial-mfp-faq
and
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/help
and
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/390500-how-to-use-google-to-search-mfp0 -
This is actually a quite fascinating (to me anyway :P) internet phenomenon.
Life on communities and forums follow this cycle that have many similarities with "real life" but it moves much faster.
Coming to a forum like this for example, is for some people a bit like meeting a great girl or guy and falling head over heels. You've found the one and it's SO GREAT. You keep finding things in common - like minded people with goals the same as you and threads that is just what you wanted but since your glasses still have that rose shimmering filter, you skim over the rest. Then, depending on your personality or the level of involvement, the honey moon period lasts for a while (say 6 months) and then you suddenly start noticing flaws that you could swear was not there before. Then, you notice more and more. He leaves his sock hanging on the bathroom mirror - someone is nasty in a forum reply. How did this happen?! Why did it change? The thing is that it didn't really change, the way you looked at it did.
The only thing one can do is to see what one doesn't like and then either be the opposite oneself, or kick the loser to the curb.0 -
I think it's really funny.... try posting something about 'starvation mode', low carb diets or losing weight on under 1200 calories a day and watch them all swing into action!
There seems to be a lack of understanding that one size does not fit all... everyone is different and has to find a way of losing weight that suits them. If that is doing a low carb low calorie diet for 6 months then so be it.0 -
I have surrounded myself with kind supportive people and for the most part ignore the snarky folks. It works for me!
FYI, telling someone thet're doing something harmful to themselves is not mean or judgemental. Nothing to do with the above quote, just needed to say it.
I have surrounded myself with snarky witty people and for the most part ignore the cleansing juicing folks. It works for me!
I prefer the snark, and I'm new on here. Obviously you have your arseholes wherever you go in life, and if anyone is insulting you, let it bounce off your thick skin.
I think some people are over-sensitive though. If you come and ask for opinions on what you're eating for example, and you don't like those opinions you can't really complain about it or act as if you have been personally attacked. There's a difference between personal attacks and opinions.0 -
I find it ironic that people are being judgmental about judgmental people in this thread.
yep. Lots of that going on lately. :laugh:
I couldn't have put it better myself0 -
I think some people are over-sensitive though. If you come and ask for opinions on what you're eating for example, and you don't like those opinions you can't really complain about it or act as if you have been personally attacked. There's a difference between personal attacks and opinions.
I agree. I don't understand why some people are so narrow-minded & they think that if someone goes against their point of view, they would think against that person. What's the point of asking in an open forum if all you want to hear are favorable opinions? If you want to see only favorable responses then it might be better if you just post that question in a group forum where people share your similar thoughts instead of the main forums where people share different opinions. Come to think of it, were all grown ups here & the majority of us are adults & yet majority still act like a little kid. As grown ups, we should know how to accept constructive criticisms or different opinions. Also many people doesn't know the difference between personal attacks & opinions. Just because someone dislikes your post doesn't mean that he is attacking you personally. He may hate your post but it doesn't mean that he hates you as a person or as an MFP member unless of course you're starting to attack him as a person with insulting words.0 -
Actually, I find the search function not very good.e.g if I search "exercise calories" I get the last post on that subject and if there was an active thread on that subject I can get pages on that specific thread before I get a new another thread.
I used google to search MFP threads.
So, to find threads on "Hamburger" I use the search term (without the quotes)
"Hamburger site:myfitnesspal.com"0 -
This site became judgmental the moment they allowed humans to use it.0
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to answer the OPs original question I'm going to guess "15 minutes into Beta testing"0
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