guys... don't want to lose weight and be "the smaller guy"?
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dont believe everything you see from Hollywood. most people in the USA are not walking around with guns.
The county in AZ I live in has an over 50% rate of gun ownership. Statistically speaking, the other individual is more likely than not to have one.
This is not surprising. According to a Gallup poll from last year about 47% of American households report gun-ownership. http://www.gallup.com/poll/150353/self-reported-gun-ownership-highest-1993.aspx
gun ownership is not the same as gun in your pocket. Having a rifle in the closet at home does not help.
show me statistics for people carrying guns in their pocket on a daily basis and then we'll talk. Even if they have a license to carry, doesn't mean they actually are 24/7. I have a fishing license, doesn't mean I'm fishing right now
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I live in a small city that was named "Murder capital of America" by NYtimes. I'm 100 lbs overweight and I can assure you, if somebody wants to hurt you, you "having 30-50 on him" won't mean jack. If you can fight, you can fight. The way you walk and talk makes all the difference. If anything, being overweight makes you look weak.
^this
U either know how to fight or you don't. In a boxing ring weight might matter but not on the streets.
I do boxing. A girl who's about half my size hits harder than me just because she's been doing this for 10 years and when the assistant coach at the academy says to the guys "You hit like a girl" we're unsure to take it as an insult or a compliment.
Bottom line. Build strength. That. Is. It. If you wanna get bulkier than thats better but fat and out of shape vs. fit and in shape, I would definitely be more intimidated by the guy who's in shape because against the fatty, I know I can run away in the worst situation.
But then again, where I live some kid got shot over $8 and killed so guns are a bigger problem than anything in Flint
Edit: Also, in Flint, MI if cops show up 3 hours after you call due to murder then you're considered lucky. Around here, people carry guns/knives on them and most of the areas cops don't even bother going into because there even the cops get shot (not making this stuff up btw, google Flint, mi)0 -
My mindset is to avoid aggression and a confrontation. Physical violence usually is not a solution, and it's better to try and avoid putting oneself in such situations.
If you're living in the USA -- the other guy likely packs a gun, so your extra lbs don't go far.
So if he storms towards you in an aggressive manner -- call 911 from your 911 (sorry couldn't resist
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My approach is to let God guide me to good decisions and keep me safe. I understand it's not the kind of faith everyone has or what works for everyone. But, just my two cents.
LOL - not everyone in the US carries a gun. In fact, I'd say 99% of people DONT carry a gun in the US. I do not know anyone that carries a gun on them besides law enforcement and i'm former army ("retired" but i hate saying that cuz i'm not old enough to retire from anything)
911 takes time to get there, in the meantime you have to somehow defend yourself
You're mistaken. But we'll agree to disagree.
I'd still prefer to avoid confrontation, you're welcome to your own view on aggression. 0 -
My mindset is to avoid aggression and a confrontation. Physical violence usually is not a solution, and it's better to try and avoid putting oneself in such situations.
If you're living in the USA -- the other guy likely packs a gun, so your extra lbs don't go far.
So if he storms towards you in an aggressive manner -- call 911 from your 911 (sorry couldn't resist ).
My approach is to let God guide me to good decisions and keep me safe. I understand it's not the kind of faith everyone has or what works for everyone. But, just my two cents.
LOL - not everyone in the US carries a gun. In fact, I'd say 99% of people DONT carry a gun in the US. I do not know anyone that carries a gun on them besides law enforcement and i'm former army ("retired" but i hate saying that cuz i'm not old enough to retire from anything)
911 takes time to get there, in the meantime you have to somehow defend yourself
You're mistaken. But we'll agree to disagree.
I'd still prefer to avoid confrontation, you're welcome to your own view on aggression.
what? ok.... you are wrong too.... ? how does that make any sense? "Hi.... you are wrong.... that is all"
damn trolls
and sometimes confrontation is unavoidable.... because i can not control the behavior of other people
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dont believe everything you see from Hollywood. most people in the USA are not walking around with guns.
The county in AZ I live in has an over 50% rate of gun ownership. Statistically speaking, the other individual is more likely than not to have one.
This is not surprising. According to a Gallup poll from last year about 47% of American households report gun-ownership. http://www.gallup.com/poll/150353/self-reported-gun-ownership-highest-1993.aspx
you implied the person had a gun on them if you had a confrontation out somewhere. an extremely small percentage of Americans carry their guns with them when they leave the house.0 -
ok maybe i'm crazy, but there has been times, when i'll be walking somewhere... not necessarily "down a dark alley" but you know, places like that, less safe, and someone looks at you like something might be up, and you're thinking, oh ****, if they did something, could i defend myself? And it's been comforting to know I have a good 50 or 70 lbs on the guy, and ya i know weight's not everything, bruce lee weighted like 130 lbs and could kick anyone's *kitten*, but you got two average people the guy that weights significantly more (within reason, if he's like 500 and can barely walk that doesn't count) is likely to be the victor
like, some guy hit my convertible porsche on the highway, on purpose, because he was mad i went around him a few miles back (crazy right?), and we pulled over and he came storming up to my car (top down, so nothing between us) and i thought I'm glad i have about 70 lbs on this guy, so i just looked at him like he was crazy because i had no doubt i could take him.
does anyone else feel like that sometimes or am i just weird?
If I weighed 500 lbs. I would just belly flop on the guy and problem solved.0 -
My mindset is to avoid aggression and a confrontation. Physical violence usually is not a solution, and it's better to try and avoid putting oneself in such situations.
If you're living in the USA -- the other guy likely packs a gun, so your extra lbs don't go far.
So if he storms towards you in an aggressive manner -- call 911 from your 911 (sorry couldn't resist ).
My approach is to let God guide me to good decisions and keep me safe. I understand it's not the kind of faith everyone has or what works for everyone. But, just my two cents.
LOL - not everyone in the US carries a gun. In fact, I'd say 99% of people DONT carry a gun in the US. I do not know anyone that carries a gun on them besides law enforcement and i'm former army ("retired" but i hate saying that cuz i'm not old enough to retire from anything)
911 takes time to get there, in the meantime you have to somehow defend yourself
You're mistaken. But we'll agree to disagree.
I'd still prefer to avoid confrontation, you're welcome to your own view on aggression.
you are confusing gun ownership with carrying a gun in public.0 -
Try pushing some weights and taking some self defense classes, write everything down. Get stronger and lighter then come back on here and tell us all how you feel about taking the 'old you' on in a fight. Seriously, I know women that could give you a run for your money... size isn't everything.0
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Bottom line. Build strength. That. Is. It. If you wanna get bulkier than thats better but fat and out of shape vs. fit and in shape, I would definitely be more intimidated by the guy who's in shape because against the fatty, I know I can run away in the worst situation.
of course, i'm not talking about 250 lbs 10% body fat vs 250 lbs 35% bf, obviously it would be better to be a huge muscular guy vs fat guy, i'm just saying it would suck to cut down from 250 to like, 180, and lose all that. He'd look better with the shirt off but not nearly as intimidating0 -
dont believe everything you see from Hollywood. most people in the USA are not walking around with guns.
The county in AZ I live in has an over 50% rate of gun ownership. Statistically speaking, the other individual is more likely than not to have one.
This is not surprising. According to a Gallup poll from last year about 47% of American households report gun-ownership. http://www.gallup.com/poll/150353/self-reported-gun-ownership-highest-1993.aspx
you implied the person had a gun on them if you had a confrontation out somewhere. an extremely small percentage of Americans carry their guns with them when they leave the house.
You're right a lower percentage of people carry guns. And I should have better highlighted in my post that it was only an example.
The real point was: there are a number of variables you don't account for when you choose to get into a fight. And my view remains: violence / confrontation is not usually a good solution. 0 -
I've worked on the steets of philly doing repair work underground for a utility for 22 years. I'm 6'0". I felt more comfortable in my lower weight than i did when i was heavy. I felt stronger and that made me feel better about myself. I have never started a fight in my life. I've been in some, barroom stuff. Also don't carry a gun or own a gun. never have and never will. If i can't protect myself or my family without a gun that is pathetic.0
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dont believe everything you see from Hollywood. most people in the USA are not walking around with guns.
The county in AZ I live in has an over 50% rate of gun ownership. Statistically speaking, the other individual is more likely than not to have one.
This is not surprising. According to a Gallup poll from last year about 47% of American households report gun-ownership. http://www.gallup.com/poll/150353/self-reported-gun-ownership-highest-1993.aspx
you implied the person had a gun on them if you had a confrontation out somewhere. an extremely small percentage of Americans carry their guns with them when they leave the house.
We can argue about what percentage of people have a weapon in their vehicle, but we won't agree and that wasn't the point.
The point was: there are a number of variables you don't account for when you choose to get into a fight. Most likely if someone is looking for a fight, he thinks he has a chance of winning it, or doing enough damage to you.
My view remains: violence / confrontation is not usually a good solution, But certainly we can disagree on this issue.
i get your point and i agree. a person could have a gun and you'd be in a lot of trouble. i was just disagreeing that it was "likely"(greater than 50% chance) that someone would have a gun when that percentage is probably in the single digits.0 -
Bottom line. Build strength. That. Is. It. If you wanna get bulkier than thats better but fat and out of shape vs. fit and in shape, I would definitely be more intimidated by the guy who's in shape because against the fatty, I know I can run away in the worst situation.
of course, i'm not talking about 250 lbs 10% body fat vs 250 lbs 35% bf, obviously it would be better to be a huge muscular guy vs fat guy, i'm just saying it would suck to cut down from 250 to like, 180, and lose all that. He'd look better with the shirt off but not nearly as intimidating
I'm unsure what kinda areas you've lived in but here people know the difference between 250 lb with 40% body fat vs. a 180 lb with 14% bf who knows how to use his strength. Here is a clip that might give you an idea what I'm talking about
http://youtu.be/OWxlZ52O0rI 0 -
Well just turn that into muscle and you will probably feel more secure than you did as a "big" guy.
What he said. Sure fat may be intimidating, but muscle a helluva lot more so.0 -
dont believe everything you see from Hollywood. most people in the USA are not walking around with guns.
Then I guess that makes me alot more prepared than you. 0 -
Interesting that many guys only worry about being attacked of feeling insecure when they get smaller, because women worry about that sort of thing for most of their life, no matter how physically "big" they are..
I don't worry about being jumped and I certainly dont worry about being kidnapped. :laugh:0 -
maybe you should mention your car some more. that might help ya feel better...
BAZINGER:laugh: It wasn't just me that thought his rambling narrative was just a way to tell us about his car lmfao.
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dont believe everything you see from Hollywood. most people in the USA are not walking around with guns.
Then I guess that makes me alot more prepared than you.
You must not live in the south then.0 -
I think it's a natural for guys to size each other up... if you feel like you can take someone, then you're more comfortable around them. As a kid, I wasn't tall, but was also never a skinny or little kid... About 14 or 15, I began to stretch out... and at 17 I was 6'2 180lbs (oh, how I miss 180lbs!). Used to get picked on a bit as a kid... but stretching out and putting on some muscle made the knuckleheads pause before they picked me as their victim.
I've felt since I put on some pounds (top weight was 276), I was more susceptible to being approached if someone wanted trouble... whereas, slimming down more recently makes me feel like I can move better (even if that means high-tailing it outta there if need be), and believe that I can hold my own against anyone looking to test me.0 -
I have always been able to handle myself. In my line of work I am often in less desirable places. They don't build truck stops and warehouses in nice neighborhoods. That said, I would much rather go up against a fat guy than one that is obviously in good shape.0
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dont believe everything you see from Hollywood. most people in the USA are not walking around with guns.
Then I guess that makes me alot more prepared than you.
prepared for?0 -
dont believe everything you see from Hollywood. most people in the USA are not walking around with guns.
Then I guess that makes me alot more prepared than you.
prepared for?
Anything! :happy:0 -
me thinks this topic was about another part of anatomy...0
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Thats why I don't want to be a real low either. To be too thin without any muscle on me, is not my goal. Goal is to be solid, and strong. Not teeney and fragile. My goal isn't to be the smallest I can be. I think I'm getting your drift on this one.0
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I usually get the smaller guy thinking that he can have a go cos I am a bot of a lardy, Never ever started a fight in my life.. ended quite a few though. I think confidence is more of what you need. Like Bruce 0
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Bottom line. Build strength. That. Is. It. If you wanna get bulkier than thats better but fat and out of shape vs. fit and in shape, I would definitely be more intimidated by the guy who's in shape because against the fatty, I know I can run away in the worst situation.
of course, i'm not talking about 250 lbs 10% body fat vs 250 lbs 35% bf, obviously it would be better to be a huge muscular guy vs fat guy, i'm just saying it would suck to cut down from 250 to like, 180, and lose all that. He'd look better with the shirt off but not nearly as intimidating
I'm unsure what kinda areas you've lived in but here people know the difference between 250 lb with 40% body fat vs. a 180 lb with 14% bf who knows how to use his strength. Here is a clip that might give you an idea what I'm talking abouthttp://youtu.be/OWxlZ52O0rI
interesting video, but if someone asked me which guy i would want to meet in a dark ally and all i had were a photo of each of them, i would definitely choose the 169 lbs guy cuz that 600 lbs guy is a giant (he's 6'8")0 -
I usually get the smaller guy thinking that he can have a go cos I am a bot of a lardy, Never ever started a fight in my life.. ended quite a few though. I think confidence is more of what you need. Like Bruce
yeah... you're probably right, i'm probably over analyzing it, i'm sure i'm fine, been in lots of fights in my life (army brat), then joined army where they train brazilian jiu-jitsu (sorta like wrestling), so i'm probably better prepared than most, at least i've been in fights and received training0 -
maybe you should mention your car some more. that might help ya feel better...
That was a bit snarky.... if it irritates you just don't read it.
You kinda have to read it about once....geeesh
He mentions it 3 TIMES in his profile. We get it...
LMAO
Have to admit it occurred to me, too. I definitely lol'd at the comments.
That said, I've never really known the feeling, being a relative light-weight for most of my life. One of my life goals is to know what it's like to feel physically intimidating, lol.
Dont get me wrong, i'd love to have a convertable porsche. But that was funny.
I admit I thought the same the too..it is not "my car"... Or "my porsche" it is "my convertable porsche"... Little bit of over compensation, but I guess if I could afford one I'd be saying "my 2012 black convertable porche with leather interior and solid gold interior"
Ok enough of that....
I find most guys that want to fight are cocky little skinny guys with big mouths. If a big guy came at me I'd at least know I could outrun him. I have also witnessed really small guys take down big burly lumberjack guys. Size means nothing, using cmmon sense means a lot more.0 -
I think the op is speaking to a component of weight loss where the author is viewing a part of himself with a different perspective.
A part is happy with the weight loss
A part is concerned about how others will view him.
This is part of the transition, I guess.
I relate in that I even thought my fat meant power. With my pants fitting better, my ring is loose, my watch is loose, I'm down a size in shirts, and when the fatter me puffed out his chest--there was a reaction. Part of me is wondering if a smaller me means a weaker me.............I know that is not true but I am aware of occasional thought.0 -
Maybe it's just me, but I'm way more scared if the guy is lean and agile, than if he is big and tough looking. When I look at a big guy, I think strong, but slow - aka. very easy to dodge and run away from in a fight. When I see a lean and fit guy, I'm like... ****, I have no idea what I'm up against.
Maybe this is because I've been small for my whole life and I strategize differently.
you are right though...it is the smaller ones that people should be afraid of.0
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