Would you hire an obese trainer???

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  • spikefoot
    spikefoot Posts: 419
    If they had a valid portfolio then sure.

    There is a vocal teacher I know who can't sing and is very sought after.

    Either they know their stuff or they don't. Why they wouldn't apply it is another story an could be perceived as uninspiring.
  • shannashannabobana
    shannashannabobana Posts: 625 Member
    What about a mechanic that drives a beater car
    Yes, because they can keep it working!

    Seriously, the part of the brain that knows what to do and the part that does it are different things. That said, it would probably depend on whether by 'obese' you mean according to BMI or what we think of as obese (ie, biggest loser contestants). A little extra weight would be ok. It just depends.
  • From what my trainer has told me, she use to be overweight herself. Now she looks great! I like that she can sympathize with what I am trying to do.
  • TheNewo
    TheNewo Posts: 239 Member
    Depends. Did they use to be much more obese? Are they now underway to becoming obese - overweight - healthy? They may know more about my struggle than some one who has never overeaten in their life.
  • gingerveg
    gingerveg Posts: 748 Member
    If they were good absolutely. They don't have to exercise I do! They just need the knowledge (even if they don't put it into practice) so I wouldn't discriminate.

    ETA: Would hire a trainer in a wheelchair even though they couldn't do some of the workouts? Same thing, if they have the knowledge they have the knowledge that's what is important.
  • JNick77
    JNick77 Posts: 3,783 Member
    <--- 10lbs ago I was considered obese, high BMI... There's not a huge difference in my appearance between those 10lbs either.

    It depends on who it was. Just because somebody is obese doesn't mean they're not knowledgeable, it just means they're not practicing on their self. If John Meadows or Shelby Starnes suddenly took a break and grew a little beer gut I would still solicit their personal nutrition and training services.

    An intelligent and experienced obese trainer is better than a lean trainer that doesn't know ****.
  • bm99
    bm99 Posts: 597 Member


    An intelligent and experienced obese trainer is better than a lean trainer that doesn't know ****.

    But an intelligent and experienced lean trainer is the best of all.
  • dreamshadows
    dreamshadows Posts: 734 Member
    I weigh in around 280. My friend is about 140. I'm obese, he's normal. I sit at a desk most days, he is on his feet. Now which of us is Fitter?
    I can do a two day hike (not setting speed records) no problem. My friend runs into trouble at the 2 hours in.

    ======

    A different factor: I learned how to clean a house, and am quite good at it, but can't keep my own place clean.
    A different friend has moved 12 times in 29 year, and can't pack for moving worth a crap. I've moved three times in 30 years, and my friend thought I had pro training in how to move.

    ======

    Point one is: as several people have said, It's the knowledge that is important.
    Point two is: The best looking book was probably never read.
  • Obese? Questionable but I would be ok with someone who was overweight if they were experienced.
  • JNick77
    JNick77 Posts: 3,783 Member


    An intelligent and experienced obese trainer is better than a lean trainer that doesn't know ****.

    But an intelligent and experienced lean trainer is the best of all.

    Why is that really? The intelligence is the only thing that benefits YOU; the physicality is just eye candy.
  • gemmaldavies
    gemmaldavies Posts: 379
    Yes. For entertainment purposes.

    thats so cruel. haha
  • I saw this at the gym once. A fat person being trained by an even fatter person. It was like the blind leading the blind.
  • dad106
    dad106 Posts: 4,868 Member


    An intelligent and experienced obese trainer is better than a lean trainer that doesn't know ****.

    But an intelligent and experienced lean trainer is the best of all.

    Why is that really? The intelligence is the only thing that benefits YOU; the physicality is just eye candy.

    Exactly.

    My one friend wants a male trainer for the eye candy... she could give two ****s if the trainer is actually decent or not.

    I'd much rather have someone who knows what they are doing then someone who is considered "eye candy".
  • Jezebel_Barbie
    Jezebel_Barbie Posts: 198 Member
    I'm actually amazed by these responses, especially since a good portion must be coming from overweight/obese people themselves? It saddens me that so many people can't find the motivation within themselves and need some 'dream vision of perfection' to kick them into gear. That isn't motivation. It's a cop out.

    So, out of curiousity. If faced with two trainers, one who was overweight but considered the best in their field, and one who was slim but not as good at getting results, who would you choose?

    What if your slim, lean trainer puts on weight (for whatever reason); would you fire them? What if they were still getting results?
  • bm99
    bm99 Posts: 597 Member
    I'm actually amazed by these responses, especially since a good portion must be coming from overweight/obese people themselves? It saddens me that so many people can't find the motivation within themselves and need some 'dream vision of perfection' to kick them into gear. That isn't motivation. It's a cop out.

    So, out of curiousity. If faced with two trainers, one who was overweight but considered the best in their field, and one who was slim but not as good at getting results, who would you choose?

    What if your slim, lean trainer puts on weight (for whatever reason); would you fire them? What if they were still getting results?

    I would choose a lean, qualified trainer. If the only good trainers were fat I would not hire a trainer at all. I would also avoid bodybuilding trainers, someone who I knew had an eating disorder, someone who smoked or someone who I knew hit up McD's 3 times a day. If I'm going to someone to be taught I expect them to live it.

    For me, it has nothing to do with "eye candy". I want someone who is living a fit healthy lifestyle to teach me how to live a fit healthy lifestyle. I want someone I can take seriously, so when they tell me to give it everything I have I know that they do the same thing. I don't need someone I can relate to because they're fat too, to hold my hand and talk about my feelings. I want someone to push me hard.

    If my slim trainer gains weight and appears to have lost control of themselves, hell yeah I'd fire them.

    I'm shocked anyone is REALLY offended that some people don't want a fat personal trainer.
  • emnk5308
    emnk5308 Posts: 736
    No, I had a very overweight zumba instructor once and never went back to her class. I was a fair amount bigger at that point than now and I thought, no one bigger than ME should be instructing me on getting fit.

    I've actually seen where people will teach zumba classes To lose weight.. That I don't see a problem with.. unless you get there and they are whining and passing out/ half assing it, not doing it. .etc.
  • mnowens
    mnowens Posts: 71
    No, I had a very overweight zumba instructor once and never went back to her class. I was a fair amount bigger at that point than now and I thought, no one bigger than ME should be instructing me on getting fit.

    I've actually seen where people will teach zumba classes To lose weight.. That I don't see a problem with.. unless you get there and they are whining and passing out/ half assing it, not doing it. .etc.

    There is an obese Zumba instructor at my gym and I won't go back to her class, either. Since it was my first time in her class I didn't know the dances yet. She would dance for a little bit and then stop, expecting us to continue without her while she rested. I can't give 100% in my workouts when I'm lost and confused because my instructor is winded. I shouldn't have to wait on her to catch her breath.
  • LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo
    LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo Posts: 3,634 Member
    I'm actually amazed by these responses, especially since a good portion must be coming from overweight/obese people themselves? It saddens me that so many people can't find the motivation within themselves and need some 'dream vision of perfection' to kick them into gear. That isn't motivation. It's a cop out.

    So, out of curiousity. If faced with two trainers, one who was overweight but considered the best in their field, and one who was slim but not as good at getting results, who would you choose?

    What if your slim, lean trainer puts on weight (for whatever reason); would you fire them? What if they were still getting results?

    I would choose a lean, qualified trainer. If the only good trainers were fat I would not hire a trainer at all. I would also avoid bodybuilding trainers, someone who I knew had an eating disorder, someone who smoked or someone who I knew hit up McD's 3 times a day. If I'm going to someone to be taught I expect them to live it.

    For me, it has nothing to do with "eye candy". I want someone who is living a fit healthy lifestyle to teach me how to live a fit healthy lifestyle. I want someone I can take seriously, so when they tell me to give it everything I have I know that they do the same thing. I don't need someone I can relate to because they're fat too, to hold my hand and talk about my feelings. I want someone to push me hard.

    If my slim trainer gains weight and appears to have lost control of themselves, hell yeah I'd fire them.

    I'm shocked anyone is REALLY offended that some people don't want a fat personal trainer.

    I'm also shocked by how easily we judge a book by its cover. Yes I understand that a slim trainer gives us extra motivation to push harder since we all want a slim body right? However we shouldn't just based everything on the outside. Remember that being fat & out of shape are two different things. You can be slim & out of shape at the same time OR be fat & fit at the same time (perfect examples are those power lifters or some rugby players). I've seen some slim trainers at my gym who seem out of shape, easily gets tired while catching breath & couldn't perform the workout properly while on the other side, I encountered an overweight dance instructor who seems full of energy & he never gets tired.

    Exercise doesn't have anything to do with being fat. The biggest factor is in the diet. No matter how many hours you're putting in your workouts but if you compensate it by eating more than you burn then you will still gain weight & remain fat. That is the reason why there are some athletes or trainers who are fit & fat. Now if you ask me if I should take an obese person's advice on cutting calories then that's the time that I will be hesitant.
  • bm99
    bm99 Posts: 597 Member
    I'm actually amazed by these responses, especially since a good portion must be coming from overweight/obese people themselves? It saddens me that so many people can't find the motivation within themselves and need some 'dream vision of perfection' to kick them into gear. That isn't motivation. It's a cop out.

    So, out of curiousity. If faced with two trainers, one who was overweight but considered the best in their field, and one who was slim but not as good at getting results, who would you choose?

    What if your slim, lean trainer puts on weight (for whatever reason); would you fire them? What if they were still getting results?

    I would choose a lean, qualified trainer. If the only good trainers were fat I would not hire a trainer at all. I would also avoid bodybuilding trainers, someone who I knew had an eating disorder, someone who smoked or someone who I knew hit up McD's 3 times a day. If I'm going to someone to be taught I expect them to live it.

    For me, it has nothing to do with "eye candy". I want someone who is living a fit healthy lifestyle to teach me how to live a fit healthy lifestyle. I want someone I can take seriously, so when they tell me to give it everything I have I know that they do the same thing. I don't need someone I can relate to because they're fat too, to hold my hand and talk about my feelings. I want someone to push me hard.

    If my slim trainer gains weight and appears to have lost control of themselves, hell yeah I'd fire them.

    I'm shocked anyone is REALLY offended that some people don't want a fat personal trainer.

    I'm also shocked by how easily we judge a book by its cover. Yes I understand that a slim trainer gives us extra motivation to push harder since we all want a slim body right? However we shouldn't just based everything on the outside. I've seen some slim trainers at my gym who seem out of shape, easily gets tired while catching breath & couldn't perform the workout properly while on the other side, I encountered an overweight dance instructor who seems full of energy & he never gets tired.

    Exercise doesn't have anything to do with being fat. The biggest factor is in the diet. Now if you ask me if I should take an obese person's advice on cutting calories then that's the time that I will be hesitant.

    I'm not hiring an accountant here. It is completely reasonable to expect a fitness trainer to look FIT. The fact that you know a crappy thin trainer has nothing to do with what I would want in my trainer. I'm sure there is no shortage of thin people who are qualified and experienced as personal trainers.

    I'm shocked that there are even fat people trying to make it as personal trainers, the idea never occurred to me.
  • LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo
    LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo Posts: 3,634 Member
    I'm actually amazed by these responses, especially since a good portion must be coming from overweight/obese people themselves? It saddens me that so many people can't find the motivation within themselves and need some 'dream vision of perfection' to kick them into gear. That isn't motivation. It's a cop out.

    So, out of curiousity. If faced with two trainers, one who was overweight but considered the best in their field, and one who was slim but not as good at getting results, who would you choose?

    What if your slim, lean trainer puts on weight (for whatever reason); would you fire them? What if they were still getting results?

    I would choose a lean, qualified trainer. If the only good trainers were fat I would not hire a trainer at all. I would also avoid bodybuilding trainers, someone who I knew had an eating disorder, someone who smoked or someone who I knew hit up McD's 3 times a day. If I'm going to someone to be taught I expect them to live it.

    For me, it has nothing to do with "eye candy". I want someone who is living a fit healthy lifestyle to teach me how to live a fit healthy lifestyle. I want someone I can take seriously, so when they tell me to give it everything I have I know that they do the same thing. I don't need someone I can relate to because they're fat too, to hold my hand and talk about my feelings. I want someone to push me hard.

    If my slim trainer gains weight and appears to have lost control of themselves, hell yeah I'd fire them.

    I'm shocked anyone is REALLY offended that some people don't want a fat personal trainer.

    I'm also shocked by how easily we judge a book by its cover. Yes I understand that a slim trainer gives us extra motivation to push harder since we all want a slim body right? However we shouldn't just based everything on the outside. I've seen some slim trainers at my gym who seem out of shape, easily gets tired while catching breath & couldn't perform the workout properly while on the other side, I encountered an overweight dance instructor who seems full of energy & he never gets tired.

    Exercise doesn't have anything to do with being fat. The biggest factor is in the diet. Now if you ask me if I should take an obese person's advice on cutting calories then that's the time that I will be hesitant.

    I'm not hiring an accountant here. It is completely reasonable to expect a fitness trainer to look FIT. The fact that you know a crappy thin trainer has nothing to do with what I would want in my trainer. I'm sure there is no shortage of thin people who are qualified and experienced as personal trainers.

    I'm shocked that there are even fat people trying to make it as personal trainers, the idea never occurred to me.

    That's because it is easy to get a certificate to be a certified PT. As long as you pass the center's exam, can perform the workouts properly & pass the medical test then boom you're now a PT regardless what your waist line is. No wonder crappy people like Tracy Anderson became a trainer despite her warped mind on weight lifting for women and the result: just look at what happened to her client namely Gwyneth Paltrow. Which is why it is a must to look into their credentials first & how knowledgeable they are before putting everything in their hands.
  • bm99
    bm99 Posts: 597 Member
    I'm actually amazed by these responses, especially since a good portion must be coming from overweight/obese people themselves? It saddens me that so many people can't find the motivation within themselves and need some 'dream vision of perfection' to kick them into gear. That isn't motivation. It's a cop out.

    So, out of curiousity. If faced with two trainers, one who was overweight but considered the best in their field, and one who was slim but not as good at getting results, who would you choose?

    What if your slim, lean trainer puts on weight (for whatever reason); would you fire them? What if they were still getting results?

    I would choose a lean, qualified trainer. If the only good trainers were fat I would not hire a trainer at all. I would also avoid bodybuilding trainers, someone who I knew had an eating disorder, someone who smoked or someone who I knew hit up McD's 3 times a day. If I'm going to someone to be taught I expect them to live it.

    For me, it has nothing to do with "eye candy". I want someone who is living a fit healthy lifestyle to teach me how to live a fit healthy lifestyle. I want someone I can take seriously, so when they tell me to give it everything I have I know that they do the same thing. I don't need someone I can relate to because they're fat too, to hold my hand and talk about my feelings. I want someone to push me hard.

    If my slim trainer gains weight and appears to have lost control of themselves, hell yeah I'd fire them.

    I'm shocked anyone is REALLY offended that some people don't want a fat personal trainer.

    I'm also shocked by how easily we judge a book by its cover. Yes I understand that a slim trainer gives us extra motivation to push harder since we all want a slim body right? However we shouldn't just based everything on the outside. I've seen some slim trainers at my gym who seem out of shape, easily gets tired while catching breath & couldn't perform the workout properly while on the other side, I encountered an overweight dance instructor who seems full of energy & he never gets tired.

    Exercise doesn't have anything to do with being fat. The biggest factor is in the diet. Now if you ask me if I should take an obese person's advice on cutting calories then that's the time that I will be hesitant.

    I'm not hiring an accountant here. It is completely reasonable to expect a fitness trainer to look FIT. The fact that you know a crappy thin trainer has nothing to do with what I would want in my trainer. I'm sure there is no shortage of thin people who are qualified and experienced as personal trainers.

    I'm shocked that there are even fat people trying to make it as personal trainers, the idea never occurred to me.

    That's because it is easy to get a certificate to be a certified PT. As long as you can perform the workouts properly & pass the medical test then boom you're now a PT regardless what your waist line is.

    Wow, well that sounds easy. I actually didn't know there was any real standard or certification lol I'm way too poor financially and time wise to even need to consider hiring one at this point. I can see how you would want to make sure the person knows what they're about, though, any serious training can cause injury if not done correctly.

    It sounds like I'm fat bashing but I would not want someone underweight either.
  • discodaddy61
    discodaddy61 Posts: 161 Member
    point is i am a physical therapist and a personal trainer i have recently lost 81 pounds but i am still considered obese but i follow avery strict exercise program and eating regimen plus i work out 5 x a week. i am an avid cyclist and dare anyone out there to match me mile for mile on a daily basis or even for a whole week. that being said would i get hired because of my looks or my example of living right and trying to improve my health?? and yes i know my business!!!!
  • Yep, I would. Because the path to becoming fit once you are already obese is a long one, and as long as that trainer was on the journey with me, it would be fine. it's really sad how people automatically look at a fat person and make all sorts of judgements about them, because they might not be accurate. I know with me, i'm still huge, but that is a result of past choices, not my current lifestyle. And honestly, I'd feel more comfortable with someone who had lost 50-60 lbs but was still considered obese rather than someone who was raised in a fit family and has no idea what it's like to be a fat person working out.
  • discodaddy61
    discodaddy61 Posts: 161 Member
    Yep, I would. Because the path to becoming fit once you are already obese is a long one, and as long as that trainer was on the journey with me, it would be fine. it's really sad how people automatically look at a fat person and make all sorts of judgements about them, because they might not be accurate. I know with me, i'm still huge, but that is a result of past choices, not my current lifestyle. And honestly, I'd feel more comfortable with someone who had lost 50-60 lbs but was still considered obese rather than someone who was raised in a fit family and has no idea what it's like to be a fat person working out.
    my thoughts exactly
  • Jezebel_Barbie
    Jezebel_Barbie Posts: 198 Member
    Fat =/= unfit.

    Fat =/= unknowledgable.

    By this logic how many professional sports coaches would be out of a job? If it's good enough for the top athletes in the world I think it's good enough for the rest of us. Why the hell you care how someone else eats/works out is beyond me. Hold yourself accountable, not everyone else.
  • bm99
    bm99 Posts: 597 Member
    Fat =/= unfit.

    Fat =/= unknowledgable.

    By this logic how many professional sports coaches would be out of a job? If it's good enough for the top athletes in the world I think it's good enough for the rest of us. Why the hell you care how someone else eats/works out is beyond me. Hold yourself accountable, not everyone else.

    And when I am a professional sports player, I won't care what my coach looks like. But if I am working one on one with someone who is claiming to know how to make me fit and look awesome, I expect the same from them.

    Why are you so butthurt over this? Opinions like mine cannot truly surprise you and surely you can see where the opposing side is coming from.
  • Jezebel_Barbie
    Jezebel_Barbie Posts: 198 Member
    Fat =/= unfit.

    Fat =/= unknowledgable.

    By this logic how many professional sports coaches would be out of a job? If it's good enough for the top athletes in the world I think it's good enough for the rest of us. Why the hell you care how someone else eats/works out is beyond me. Hold yourself accountable, not everyone else.

    And when I am a professional sports player, I won't care what my coach looks like. But if I am working one on one with someone who is claiming to know how to make me fit and look awesome, I expect the same from them.

    Why are you so butthurt over this? Opinions like mine cannot truly surprise you and surely you can see where the opposing side is coming from.

    Your opinion doesn't surprise me. It saddens me. For both the coach, and yourself.
  • Casandra237
    Casandra237 Posts: 6 Member
    I wouldn't say that obese people lack the knowledge to train effectively, but I probably wouldn't train with them unless they were attempting to change their weight and were knowledgeable. This is mainly because I want someone who either knows how to be fit personally OR that is going through/has gone through what I currently am. I'm not saying that they can't be effective, but I would want a trainer that practices those things or else I just don't think we'd be compatible and that compatibility is just as important as their physique and knowledge base.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
    I'd love an overweight trainer! If I had the money, I think a really in shape trainer would intimidate me. That's my issue, not the trainer's fault, but that is what it is. I'd feel more comfortable with someone with some problem zones of their own, so long as they are nice.

    I'm hiring them to train me while I'm in the gym to learn physical abilities and techniques, not to teach me how to live my whole life through example only. I don't need my trainer to be my physicality role model.
  • Bobby_Clerici
    Bobby_Clerici Posts: 1,828 Member
    Sure, I'd hire him...to bake cookies....lol
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