Random stuff that stops me getting fat... and makes you fat

This statement seems to be in contradiction with many of your other statements

Diets are designed not to be sustainable - this keeps the company in business. You have to make lifetime changes

Too many "NEVERs" in your laundry list. It sounds unsustainable, and frankly no way to live. Such handicaps are not necessary.

agreed. life is for living. and only a Sith deals with absolutes.

this is awesome!

I get what you're trying to prove, but mostly you come off as a stereotypical jerk.

This.

Many of your points are valid but you come off as rude, all-knowing and generally unpleasant.
I will eat an In 'N Out burger if I want to, I will converse and spend time with "fat people" and I will have a treat day every week.
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And I will lose the weight.

^^^ this!!!!

If the point of this entire post was to talk about how every person is responsible for their lives and what they intake then I think THIS point is the best to make. I WILL eat pizza with my family occasionally because its a beautiful time. I will occasionally eat any other fast food or whatever because it's there, and for whatever reason I enjoy it. The problem I see with any of this post, and some of the responses is the feeling of superiority some get from not doing these things. That's a psychological issue, not happiness you feel. At the point where you feel like you are enjoying your life because it's somehow "better" than others you are no longer actually "happy", and that is what I get from the OP post.

I eat a Lean cuisine meal almost daily. Never been overweight but use it to control my weight, and it works fine, idk :ohwell:

You do kind of come off kind of jerky, even if what you're saying is mostly correct.

Also, fast food isn't the only problem, it's anything that is super high in carbs that people think is okay because it's lower in calories... I hate those stupid "lean cuisine" meals because they're so high in sodium and carbs even though they don't have many calories in them. They try to trick people into thinking they're healthy when they really aren't. Another one that gets me is slimfast... how can anything with that much sugar help you lose weight effectively? I always joke about it because my mom drank it to help her gain weight after she got out of the hospital.

Anyways, liked your post. Blunt and to the point. Nice.

Just curious about the title of your post...it implies you've never been overweight or obese. So have you ever had to lose weight?

I agree with everything you said, with the following exceptions:

1) Eating too little is almost never a problem for normal people (I exclude people with EDs);

2) Women don't become "hulks" overnight with weight training, but a woman with a certain type of body fat distribution who is concerned about getting bigger does have to take more care in the kind of exercise she chooses.

Eating bad one day? Not gonna derail everything you did the other six. I promise.

Fast food? Nothing in it makes you crave more. There is no secret chemical to make us addicted. We want more sometimes because it tastes good. And it is ok to eat food we like to eat. Really really.

The only unhealthy food is one eaten in excess. Like something? Love something? Eat it. Just not as much as you used to.

Do I need to eat chocolate or chips? Nope. But I do. And I can.

Cardio? Yeah. Getting your heart and lungs and circulatory system healthy sucks. Good call.

Metabolism? Yup. They are all different. Sorry.

And you're right. Hanging around overweight people? Lame.

Healthy people don't eat much? Well, I'd say the healthiest people often eat more - it's a result of having to refuel after all that stupid cardio they do.

Sugar? Long as you don't have a medical reason to stay away or limit ... it isn't the devil. I don't even track it. I promise, sugar is fine. (So is sodium, by the way.)

Fie on your common sense! Only condescending attitudes and pseudoscience are welcome here!

Sex is awesome when you aint fat.


Favorite quote ever.

What you said about fast food is very true...

I don't even know where to begin. Thank goodness plenty of people have pointed out the flaws, from the smug superiority to being incorrect on the facts.

Ok, I've read through it ALL, including all comments. I don't think I have to point out the absurd superior arrogance of this topic, because that has been well addressed. I'm not going into the FACTS because I don't actually have that knowledge. I am new to this whole healthy lifestyle change and still learning.

What I want to add is that life is for living and enjoying. In my opinion that is all that matters. Maintaining a healthy, productive lifestyle will enhance your life but if it's going to take over your entire life I don't see the enjoyment. The fact that you refuse yourself something you love (the fish and chips comment) seems ridiculous to me. There is WAY more to life than just being fit and tracking your food intake.

That being said I realize I am posting this on a fitness and calorie tracking site. I just think it's important not to lose sight of the reason we all want to get healthy. We all want to enjoy our life more. Cutting out everything we enjoy just to be healthy is going to make you an unhappy person with a nice body and a longer life span to continue to live unhappily.

That is my generalization, and my take on this topic, but I'm new to MFP so really... what do I know?

I think I love you.

However, muscle doesn't burn that many calories at rest, and cardio burns far more calories than strength training or a muscled person resting.

Sorry but... I call BS on this one!

Moderate intensity cardio DOES burn calories, but only while you're doing it. Once your session is over, the burn stops. Weight training on the other hand, you burn probably twice as many calories post-workout as your 30 minute cardio session, and even more depending on the intensity of your workout. Sprint and high intensity interval training are the best cardio for fat loss, although, running is certainly fine for keeping you in shape, not to mention healthy cardiovascularly. Look at it this way (and I only have love for runners!!!): marathon runners are SKINNY. Sprinters are RIPPED. There's a reason why. Your body can't adapt to high intensity training no matter how hard you try, lol. You'll always burn more that way in the long run (no pun intended).

Love the original post!

It always drives me nuts when people say it's expensive to eat healthy. I have one word for them: gardening. Want fruit and veggies in abundance at virtually zero cost? Grow them! It's really not hard. Humans have been doing it for a while, so even the dimmest bulb can figure it out.

Also, learn how to cook. You don't need to become a gourmet chef, but understanding how to boil water, cook an egg, broil a chicken breast, or steam some veggies can go a long way. The greatest Christmas present I've ever gotten (seriously, no joke) was a Better Homes & Gardens Cook Book, $20 at Walmart. Took me from loathing have to prepare a meal to absolutely LOVING it.

Thanks for posting!! Very funny and very true! :drinker:

ETA: It's too expensive NOT to eat healthy. Can you say medical bills? Unnecessary trips to the ER? Medications? etc... Not to beat a dead horse, but this saying truly does apply here: an ounce of prevention is worth *at LEAST* a pound of cure. Think about it when you're hankering for Mickey D's... (YUCK!)

What you said about fast food is very true...

No, it isn't.

I don't think the man was preaching perfectionism at all. Simply stating some cold hard truths that most of us write off with excuses. I think the point of his post is to tell folks to dig deep and be honest with yourself. Sure, everyone screws up or makes a choice they wish they hadn't that slows them down or leads to another problem. The point here is to not make excuses for your failures, but to be honest and learn from them. After all, if you're not being honest about what you eat, what you do, how you think about food, etc, you're not doing yourself ANY favors.

It started off that way, but then the post went waaaayyyy south. Having fat friends doesn't keep/make you fat. He spent an entire post talking about owning your choices and then threw in that bomb that was so fat-phobic it was unreal. My fat friends have absolutely ZERO influence on my food choices. Sometimes, it's my "healthy" friends who want to order pizza or eat a bag of chips. It isn't just the eeeevil fatties who make poor choices.

Also, fat people CAN be happy. I don't wallow in depression because I'm fat. I'm losing weight because I want to be more healthy, not because I hate myself. I have a billion other things that comprise who I am. My weight is only a percentage of what makes me ME. Yet another thing that shows how much he loathes and detests fat people.

The OP makes me sick. I hope to god he never ends up with some disease, stuck in a wheelchair, because then he might become the thing he detests most.

I do agree with the OP about junk food though. We don't need it. Ever. I have managed 35 years without ever eating at McDonalds and am THRILLED about it. It's not food any more than cardboard is food. Why people persist in paying money for that rubbish baffles me.

Very occasionally I get stranded somewhere where literally the only vegetarian option is chips (like today for example, at a landrover convention, I had to eat them or faint (I was there for 8 hours walking around in a muddy field, I was starving - I had half a portion), but unpredictable one offs like that aside (happens to me maybe 3 times a year), it would never even cross my mind to eat fast food, as it doesn't register on my radar as food. That goes for Subway as well. There are very very few situations where you have no healthy choice.


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While I am on the subject, why at an outdoor event, miles from anywhere, would the only food options be ice cream, bacon rolls, hamburgers, doughnuts and fries? Does it not cross the people who organise these things minds that some of might like ACTUAL FOOD? Even the drink options were Fanta, beer or coffee. And I am allergic to oranges. Oh, and was driving. I was SO HUNGRY by the time we got home.