TOO MUCH FRUIT CAN GET IN THE WAY OF WEIGHT LOSS!

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    Guess I'm in trouble...............I've eaten an apple, a pear, a banana and grapes today.

    It's crap like this that confuses the **** out of people. If you stay in calorie deficit and aren't diabetic, fruit is fine.


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  • angel79202
    angel79202 Posts: 1,012 Member
    Guess I'm in trouble...............I've eaten an apple, a pear, a banana and grapes today.

    It's crap like this that confuses the **** out of people. If you stay in calorie deficit and aren't diabetic, fruit is fine.


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    IDEA Fitness member
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    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition


    I love fruit! I usually have blueberries, raspberries, etc everyday...I just can't see limiting them
  • rawfull
    rawfull Posts: 178
    I'm a raw vegan, I eat mostly fruit, some vegetables, nuts, and seeds. So far I've lost 26 pounds in less than a month.

    Raw vegan 80/10/10...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucHEVNX2c9o

    Freelea eats up to 50 bananas a day...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UK-aX0_fAw
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Fruit sugar is better than the refined sugar..everything in moderation :)
    No it's not, it's molecularly identical.

    but it's paired with fiber and water and delivers micronutrients unlike other sweets. some are better than others, as the OP noted.

    i cook in peanut oil, too. it's great for making falafel.
    Fiber and vitamins make fruit healthier than a Twinkie, but that has nothing to do with the sugar. The sugar is the same in both of them. If you meet your nutritional goals already, then neither one is "better" than the other.

    go eat a stack of candy bars if u want..I'll follow my dietitian and doctor thanks!
    Right, because that's exactly what I said. If you don't understand the conversation, just don't comment on it.


    Why must you always sound like a know it all..I'm not stupid.
    My point is, for my weight loss, I have done fine with eating fruit verses the refined sugar..do u always look for a fight?
    Debunking misinformation by supplying facts isn't looking for a fight. Saying that fruit sugar is different from refined sugar is wrong. Source doesn't matter, total caloric intake matters. A diabetic can put themselves into a sugar coma just as fast with oranges as they can with M&M's, and if they read on here that fruit sugar is ok, and they don't know any better, that could have disastrous results.

    Also, logical fallacies are my biggest pet peeve.
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
    I'm a raw vegan, I eat mostly fruit, some vegetables, nuts, and seeds. So far I've lost 26 pounds in less than a month.

    Raw vegan 80/10/10...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucHEVNX2c9o

    Freelea eats up to 50 bananas a day...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UK-aX0_fAw

    Freelee and Durianrider are the worst people on the planet. Don't ruin your health. Get wiser and read tons of testimonies: http://30bananasadaysucks.com/
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    Fruit sugar is better than the refined sugar..everything in moderation :)
    No it's not, it's molecularly identical.

    but it's paired with fiber and water and delivers micronutrients unlike other sweets. some are better than others, as the OP noted.

    i cook in peanut oil, too. it's great for making falafel.
    Fiber and vitamins make fruit healthier than a Twinkie, but that has nothing to do with the sugar. The sugar is the same in both of them. If you meet your nutritional goals already, then neither one is "better" than the other.

    go eat a stack of candy bars if u want..I'll follow my dietitian and doctor thanks!
    Right, because that's exactly what I said. If you don't understand the conversation, just don't comment on it.


    Why must you always sound like a know it all..I'm not stupid.
    My point is, for my weight loss, I have done fine with eating fruit verses the refined sugar..do u always look for a fight?
    Debunking misinformation by supplying facts isn't looking for a fight. Saying that fruit sugar is different from refined sugar is wrong. Source doesn't matter, total caloric intake matters. A diabetic can put themselves into a sugar coma just as fast with oranges as they can with M&M's, and if they read on here that fruit sugar is ok, and they don't know any better, that could have disastrous results.

    Obvi, a diabetic will be working with a doctor and a nutritionist to figure out what is safe to eat. They aren't just given a diagnosis and shoved out the door.

    And, sugar in fruit is different than sugar in a candy bar.

    http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/sugar-problem/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all
  • seamadden
    seamadden Posts: 46 Member
    of course too much fruit can hinder weight loss, too much of any food can
    that's what too much means
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Fruit sugar is better than the refined sugar..everything in moderation :)
    No it's not, it's molecularly identical.

    but it's paired with fiber and water and delivers micronutrients unlike other sweets. some are better than others, as the OP noted.

    i cook in peanut oil, too. it's great for making falafel.
    Fiber and vitamins make fruit healthier than a Twinkie, but that has nothing to do with the sugar. The sugar is the same in both of them. If you meet your nutritional goals already, then neither one is "better" than the other.

    go eat a stack of candy bars if u want..I'll follow my dietitian and doctor thanks!
    Right, because that's exactly what I said. If you don't understand the conversation, just don't comment on it.


    Why must you always sound like a know it all..I'm not stupid.
    My point is, for my weight loss, I have done fine with eating fruit verses the refined sugar..do u always look for a fight?
    Debunking misinformation by supplying facts isn't looking for a fight. Saying that fruit sugar is different from refined sugar is wrong. Source doesn't matter, total caloric intake matters. A diabetic can put themselves into a sugar coma just as fast with oranges as they can with M&M's, and if they read on here that fruit sugar is ok, and they don't know any better, that could have disastrous results.

    Obvi, a diabetic will be working with a doctor and a nutritionist to figure out what is safe to eat. They aren't just given a diagnosis and shoved out the door.

    And, sugar in fruit is different than sugar in a candy bar.

    http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/sugar-problem/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all
    tigerpalm.jpg

    Sugar in fruit = glucose, sucrose, and fructose. Sugar in a candy bar = glucose, sucrose, and fructose. THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.
  • tsh0ck
    tsh0ck Posts: 1,970 Member

    And, sugar in fruit is different than sugar in a candy bar.


    nope.
  • jassyjan1
    jassyjan1 Posts: 308 Member
    Personally I love fruit and I am not going to stop eating it.
  • lee3978
    lee3978 Posts: 274
    All calories are not created equal so therefore CALORIES IN DOES NOT EQUAL CALORIES OUT.

    Fruit is zero points on weight watchers. I'm not sure if that's the best method??
  • alovesopure
    alovesopure Posts: 610
    Thanks for sharing! :)
    Next time I shop I will grab the lower sugar fruits, great information
  • graelwyn
    graelwyn Posts: 1,340 Member
    If I were to listen to every person who ever said something was not good for me, or would cause cancer, or some other illness, I would basically end up just not bothering to eat at all. It gets a bit ridiculous after a point, when something natural like fruit is being stigmatised as well. It doesn't take the brain of britain to work out that if you overeat most anything, it might cause weight gain. However, given that candy bars and the like usually have lots of extra things added to them and are processed in a factory, I would rather strive to have a few pieces of fruit a day, which I do. Better to follow one's own judgement or you will end up going stark raving mad from all the various sources claiming specific foods and drinks are bad for you, especially considering within weeks, there is often another article claiming the self same food or drink has some sort of health benefit. Talk about F'ing with peoples' heads.
  • NeverGivesUp
    NeverGivesUp Posts: 960 Member
    Interesting info. Thanks for sharing this. I am more of a veggie person so fruits are not really a problem for me nor is sugar. I like to eat good fruit when it is in season, the rest of the year I stick to my veggies. I didn't realize bananas were so high in sugar. I do believe fruits and all the vitamins and nutrients they provide are far better than the sugar in sugar cane and beet sugar.
  • kayemme
    kayemme Posts: 1,782 Member
    how much is "too much"?
  • RoseAmongThorns91
    RoseAmongThorns91 Posts: 215 Member
    bump
  • Sheila_Ann
    Sheila_Ann Posts: 365 Member
    bump
  • punkypenny
    punkypenny Posts: 99 Member
    Thank you for posting! Lately I've been making sure the fruit I eat fits into my sugar allowance.
  • KaleidoscopeEyes1056
    KaleidoscopeEyes1056 Posts: 2,996 Member
    Yup ... think this is prob true, at least for me. The last time I went onto WW - was with their new points plus ... and all fruits and vegies were 0 points and 'free' ... I think I prob over did it - yes I know moderation is key - however I could not lose weight like I had on WW a few years earlier, hence I found and joined mfp ... which seems to be working. And have also gotten lots of support from the 'mfp family'! Thanks to all!:flowerforyou:

    In that case, you were probably eating too many calories in the fruit. A lot of the really yummy fruits are usually 100+ calories per serving, so that's very possible.
  • WandaWoman41
    WandaWoman41 Posts: 153 Member
    As lawd, guess I'm in trouble. I've been juicing watermelon and spinach (the best of both worlds - high sodium/high sugar.
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    Yup ... think this is prob true, at least for me. The last time I went onto WW - was with their new points plus ... and all fruits and vegies were 0 points and 'free' ... I think I prob over did it - yes I know moderation is key - however I could not lose weight like I had on WW a few years earlier, hence I found and joined mfp ... which seems to be working. And have also gotten lots of support from the 'mfp family'! Thanks to all!:flowerforyou:
    regarding WW - Yes some of the leaders are telling you that you can not eat all the fruit you want because this could definiely make weight loss slower. So what I do is I do not eat over 3 to 4 fruits and I deduct 10 points off the amount of points I use that day to make sure I am at a deficit.
  • pundas
    pundas Posts: 165 Member
    bump
  • deelovesvegas
    deelovesvegas Posts: 9
    Absolutely ridiculous! People can't lose weight because they are eating highly processed foods, refined sugar (cookies, pastries, sugary cereals, sodas, etc.), too much meat and not enough of the right foods. If you stick to a natural whole foods diet consisting of fruit, veggies, whole grains...you will lose weight. I can eat up to 6 bananas a day, lots of apples and various other fruits. I weight 93 pounds! I'm not trying to lose, but when I started a plant based diet, I easily dropped 10 pounds. I eat more now than I ever have and have no problem maintaining my weight.


    People that tell you to limit healthy food are setting a bad example.
  • ForeverIrish
    ForeverIrish Posts: 227 Member
    I just eat what I want - fruit and all.
    And then log it in the MFP diary. At day's end I keep my calorie count under goal.
    Simple deal.

    And your tremendous results are very, very evident!
  • GoalByFifty
    GoalByFifty Posts: 97 Member
    better than too many pretzels or chips....
  • benjit_t
    benjit_t Posts: 12 Member
    I second that. How much fruit would you need to eat to blow your diet ? There's few options better than eating lots of fruit and vegetables for your general health as well as satiety. Your trainer thinks that just because foods that are high in sugar are a bad choice for dieting, therefore ALL foods with sugar are bad for dieting. This is not logical.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    FRUIT FEAR MONGER!!!!!!
    D=
  • aradalj1
    aradalj1 Posts: 23
    Has anyone mentioned Freelee?

    http://freeleetv.com/

    she doesn't look fat to me...
  • sensualmess
    sensualmess Posts: 46 Member
    thanks for sharing this :)
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    All calories are not created equal so therefore CALORIES IN DOES NOT EQUAL CALORIES OUT.

    Fruit is zero points on weight watchers. I'm not sure if that's the best method??
    All CALORIES are exactly the same. Calorie is a specifically defined measure of heat. One calorie of any food is exactly the same as one calorie of any other food. Calories and nutrition are two different concepts.

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