For cryin' out loud. I eat pasta, fast food and ice cream!
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Totally.:flowerforyou: yay for the voice of reason.
I went to a eating disorders specialist/therapist who changed my life when she told me by restricting or saying "can't" you, especially if you have eating disorders ,set yourself up for a fall. She told me to be mindful. That's all. It works. The minnute I start saying I can't or cut something out i fall right back into old habits. And by the way name an eating disorder and I've had it.0 -
Regularly eating it means what? Once a day, once a week, once a month?
I probably eat junk food once or twice a week. I also drink almost every weekend. I am not trying to lose weight. I am healthy and in shape. What's the point here?
Let's just say, compare your diary to the OP's... Fast food every other day, for instance. I'm not a clean eater either, but having been in the fitness/nutrition world for years, the thing I notice about people who maintain athletic bodies is that the bulk of their diet is nutritious... "Junk food" is a snack or a dessert, not a meal. And if it is, it's a rare meal.
Just wondering what the difference is between people in this argument. Of course people see results on both sides in terms of weight loss, I'm just interested in the people who are maintaining a slim/athletic body, not losing weight
I also must assume that if you are eating McDonalds every other day, it is much easier to all of the sudden start binging on those types of things because that is what you are used to eating. But if you train yourself to eat it everyonce in a while like once every couple of months it's not really something you are going to be thinking about once you have reached your goal weight. Also the OP gets to eat over 2,000 calories a day, and that is without any really workout. I think eventually when she gets closer to her goal weight she will understand why she can't do this so much, beacuse eating 800 calories at mcdonalds is only going to leave her 600-800 calories the rest of the day for all of her snacks, and meals.0 -
Thanks for this post! I've only been doing MFP two weeks now (and haven't dared to weigh yet). I don't really know any of the "rules" but when I put my info in MFP told me how many calories I could eat a day and how many I earn by exercising. I, too, have eaten ice cream almost every single day but it's a big difference from the almost half-gallon I used to eat to the now 1/2 cup serving I carefully measure out. I feel like I'm cheating but I figure if I stay within my calories surely I will lose weight because I'm eating much less than I used to and I'm getting more and more active. You're right...it's not a diet but a lifestyle change!
Welcome to MFP! All of the forum discussions are not as wild and crazy as this one. Hope we did not scare you.0 -
I read that your pregnant now. I took a look at your food diary. You need to eat more nutritious foods so your baby can get all the right nourishment it needs to grow well.
Please don't jump down my throat; my post is well-meaning. I'm glad you've lost weight but your not eating just for you right now so choose to put clean, healthy, nutritious foods in your body.0 -
I'm so tired of seeing "I can't eat pasta. I can't eat fast food. I can't eat ice cream. I can't eat fruit. I can't have this. I can't have that."
Seriously. This is why people don't "diet" because they think they're only going to live on lettuce and nuts.
I eat pasta.
I drank booze (can't now because I'm pregnant).
I eat ice cream EVERY DAY. Yes, EVERY SINGLE DAY (and have for 7 months now)
I eat fast food.
Heck, I'll even have that 1000 calorie burrito from Chipotle.
And yes! I LOST WEIGHT. And how did I do it?
BY WORKING MY *kitten* OFF.
Did I really want that burrito? You bet I did. But I exercised to earn it.
Do I REALLY eat ice cream EVERY DAY? Sure do. I remember the days I would down half a container of Breyer's. Not anymore. The key is portion control. I get the Skinny Cow. Actually, right now I have full fat, full calorie TRIPLE CHOCOLATE DRUMSTICKS in my freezer. I had one last night, and golly, I made it fit into my plan.
*gasp* PASTA?! OH NO. Yes, I eat pasta and I do regularly. I'll usually have 1.5-2 servings of cheese ravioli WITH sauce PLUS vegetables with butter!
My macros are set at 45-35-20 and I hit them almost every day on point with calories to spare at the end of the day! Today - my macros came all to 0 at the end of the day.
You CAN eat all the "evil" foods. It's not a "diet", it's a LIFESTYLE CHANGE and the key to a lifestyle change is to enjoy everything you enjoy, but to adapt them in a way to make them fit into your new lifestyle.
Yep, portion control. There's really nothing wrong with a little gelato, a slice of pizza, or a few cups of pasta.
(Most fruits and pasta are also low in glycemic index, incidentally--not the same thing as wolfing down some cookies and a 32-oz. coca-cola).
I do stay away from burritos, personally, if only because I realized that a combination of a 9-inch deli sandwich for lunch and a 1,100-calorie burrito for dinner were the main culprits in my weight gain. Though if I would have worked harder in the gym I could have had these things.0 -
100% agree. I'm tired of the "YOU'RE NOT HEALTHY THOUGH IF YOU DON'T EAT COMPLETELY CLEAN FOODS!!!!!1!!1!"
Oh please. Not all of us care to live the healthiest lifestyle in the world. I always thought I had to give up pasta, pizza, sweets, chips, fast food in order to lose weight. But did I? No. And I am starting to lose weight. 5lbs away from a weight I haven't seen in ages! The difference is, I eat when I can eat in my day, but if it's too much, I don't eat it. I exercise. I move. I burn.
Sorry, but there ain't a single soul in the world that's going to convince me to only eat fruits and veggies my whole life. If that's the case, it's just not worth it.
Not just to single you out, but has anyone on here ever said that?
However, I've heard several people make the argument of "I have to supplement my diet with junk in order to...."0 -
I LOVE this post! I am the same exact way. I am making a lifestyle change and I am sure in heck not on a "diet". Diets are short term plans to lose weight, most of the time by denying yourself the foods you love. A lifestyle change is about learning to eat healthy, well portioned food that you love and eating sweets, fats and carbs in moderation.
Simple as that.0 -
I personally choose to eat the way I do because I believe it's the healthy way and will give me the best life possible,...if you think your way is right too, then more power to you!! Good luck to everyone on here, I hope we all live long healthy active lives
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Regularly eating it means what? Once a day, once a week, once a month?
I probably eat junk food once or twice a week. I also drink almost every weekend. I am not trying to lose weight. I am healthy and in shape. What's the point here?
Let's just say, compare your diary to the OP's... Fast food every other day, for instance. I'm not a clean eater either, but having been in the fitness/nutrition world for years, the thing I notice about people who maintain athletic bodies is that the bulk of their diet is nutritious... "Junk food" is a snack or a dessert, not a meal. And if it is, it's a rare meal.
Just wondering what the difference is between people in this argument. Of course people see results on both sides in terms of weight loss, I'm just interested in the people who are maintaining a slim/athletic body, not losing weight
Gotcha. Thanks for that explanation. I am definitely someone who loves food and junk food haha. But it's a treat for me.0 -
And for the record, I'm well aware that I don't eat "clean."
I am a single woman who lives alone and I find when I buy everything "clean", a lot of stuff goes to waste because I can't consume it all in a reasonable amount of time. I can't tell you how much money I have lost by throwing away fresh fruits and vegetables, gallons of milk, loaves of bread because they turned rotten and moldy. I'd rather eat as "well" as I can without wasting money.
You can freeze a loaf bread and take out what you want each day. You can also cut up vegetables and freeze them as well. Same goes for fruit.0 -
Consistently going over your caloric intake and macros on top of eating fast food multiple times a week is a recipe for disaster. I was all for the original post, but not after viewing your diary. 1,000 calories for a damn burrito? Cut it in half! That's portion control. Portion control is not eating over 1,000 calories in one sitting than limiting yourself to only one scoop of ice cream later that night. If you insist on not changing the foods you eat than I insist you buy the book Eat This, Not That or at least do some research on fast food so that you can get a real idea of what exactly you're putting in your mouth. Personally, I think you're doing yourself a disservice and hindering your own progress.
You lost that amount of weight eating junk.. imagine what you could lose if you didn't eat like that.0 -
Why am I finding humor in a pregnant lady bragging about eating like **** all the time? :laugh:0
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If people are getting the health and fitness results they want , I support them. Might not be my chosen path but if some is making progress towards their goal and happy with the way they are going about it I'm not gonna gripe at them about how "clean" their food is or if they have a Big Mac.0
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I'm trying to get results as quickly as possible so I avoid those foods if I can. If I do eat pasta, it's usually in the form of a healthy choice or lean cuisine because I didn't have time to cook. I don't eat cake, candy or icecream. The other reason is because if I start, I'm afraid I won't be able to stop. It's easier to just avoid it completely. I saw the post that said "skinny" does not = "healthy", but for me, health is my secondary reason for losing weight. Beauty is primary. I know that's terrible, but I'm just being honest.0
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I want to meet these people that were obese. not overweight, not high normal, OBESE at one time and ate clean all the way to goal. Not clean eating at goal, clean eating during their loss...all the way to goaI. Not halfway to goal and eating clean. ALL THE WAY.
And I'm talking losing 50 pounds or more. I'm not talking about those that were at the high end of normal or even overweight. I'm talking O.FREAKING.BESE. Because I'm kinda thinking that most of the clean eating harpies never really had huge weight problems to begin with.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I see way more "moderation" obese to normal weight success stories than I do, clean eating. The clean eaters either didn't have all that much to lose to begin with, or lost it with moderation and switched closer to/at goal. Which is fine.
Flame away, IDGAF.0 -
How do you control yourself with portions? The more I exercise, the more I can't control myself because my cravings get intensified. Example, I burn 200 calories, I was going to eat one cookie, but then I end up eating 1,000 calories worth of food in addition to that one cookie.
Looks like you are a work in progress, same as me. I do pretty well these days. Just hang in there and you'll get it. Be sure not to be starving yourself to begin with or trying to lose weight too fast. 0 -
My motto is 'all things in moderation'. I don't pay any attention to all the diet and health fads because what they tell you this month is bad for you, next month they'll be telling you it's good for you. I eat bread, pasta, ice cream (Skinny Cow is awesome), hot dogs, italian sausage --- whatever I want at the moment. And I make sure to have a little sugar each day and chocolate from time to time to keep my cravings at bay. Because I know that the worst thing I can do is to deny myself what I like. If I do, it'll only be a matter of time before I go berserk, go hog wild and stuff myself with whatever it is that I've been denying myself. And anybody who says that chocolate isn't a necessary part of any diet has obviously never had PMS.
All things in moderation ---
Oh ---- And I never, EVER use the word 'diet'. It's a 'Lifestyle change'.0 -
What the hell is "clean" food anyway? Every time I think something's clean I get attacked saying that nooooo that'll make you faaaaat. I wash my veggies before cooking them, does that make them clean? Maybe I should just drink water for the rest of my life, unless well water will make me fat too.
Clean food is food that is right out of the ground. Or food that has a parent.
So meat, fruit and veggies and that's it? No olive oil? No natural cheeses? No bread at all? Even whole grain breads? Not a lot of room for variety.
Ummm....Olive oil comes from olives, which come off trees, which are from the ground......Cheese is a product of an animal that had a parent......whole grains, again, come out of the ground.
Just sayin'
So deep fried butter in duck fat would be clean? butter comes from cows, the batter is flour and water or beer and the fat is from an animal?0 -
FINALLY SOMEBODY FEELS LIKE I DO!!! i couldn't agree with you more! :drinker:0
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I agree. That much sugar and empty carbs are bad for your health. I feel so much better not eating junk like ice cream.0
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I didn't take her post to be "nasty." Rather, she was simply echoing many "dieter's" complaints.
Second, I don't think she was referring to people who must control their diet for medical reasons. She was aiming at the folks who are working to lose weight by following a "diet." And, for those folks, I think she's absolutely right; it is a whole lot more about lifestyle changes -- moderation in what you eat -- than about denying yourself the things you love. (She's also right that this is one of the reasons many don't stick to their diets -- they see it as something denied, rather than an opportunity to change their life.)
I think she, and all the readers here, understand that there are people who, for medical reasons, can't have certain foods.0 -
I want to meet these people that were obese. not overweight, not high normal, OBESE at one time and ate clean all the way to goal. Not clean eating at goal, clean eating during their loss...all the way to goaI. Not halfway to goal and eating clean. ALL THE WAY.
And I'm talking losing 50 pounds or more. I'm not talking about those that were at the high end of normal or even overweight. I'm talking O.FREAKING.BESE. Because I'm kinda thinking that most of the clean eating harpies never really had huge weight problems to begin with.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I see way more "moderation" obese to normal weight success stories than I do, clean eating. The clean eaters either didn't have all that much to lose to begin with, or lost it with moderation and switched closer to/at goal. Which is fine.
Flame away, IDGAF.
I know I only had 69 lbs to lose so I don't qualify for your search, but I have lost 53 eating clean, start to finish, and I saw a post yesterday of a girl who had lost over 150 lbs eating pure clean eating the entire time, not one cheat. She was awesome, I'll see if I can find it for you!!0 -
I agree. That much sugar and empty carbs are bad for your health. I feel so much better not eating junk like ice cream.
totally agree, that's why we have an obesity epidemic, sugar and carbs0 -
I want to meet these people that were obese. not overweight, not high normal, OBESE at one time and ate clean all the way to goal. Not clean eating at goal, clean eating during their loss...all the way to goaI. Not halfway to goal and eating clean. ALL THE WAY.
And I'm talking losing 50 pounds or more. I'm not talking about those that were at the high end of normal or even overweight. I'm talking O.FREAKING.BESE. Because I'm kinda thinking that most of the clean eating harpies never really had huge weight problems to begin with.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I see way more "moderation" obese to normal weight success stories than I do, clean eating. The clean eaters either didn't have all that much to lose to begin with, or lost it with moderation and switched closer to/at goal. Which is fine.
Flame away, IDGAF.
This is all very true, I kind of said the same thing earlier, it just seems like the OP thinks she is going to be able to eat like this all of the time, but that isn't true as she gets closer to her goal weight.0 -
Wow, I didn't realize how many people had such strong opinions around here. To each their own, I say. Personally, I gave up all soda and fast food. For me, it was because I haven't learned self-control and I know that if I eat things I shouldn't then I'll keep eating them. I've been off soda for 4 years and off fast food for only two months, but the cravings for them are completely gone now. And you know what? I don't miss them.
As far as other treats, I make them just that, treats. I try to make smart choices everyday, but I like to make room for the things I love, like chocolate chip cookies and french fries. I just make them at home when I have the time and switch out ingredients where I can to make them healthier. And I'm always strapped for time, so Lean Cuisines always play a part in my daily diet as well as at least one weekly dinner out with my friends. Not the best choice, but when you work full-time 7-4 at one job, while balancing a freelance career, a volunteer schedule and a school schedule, you have to do what you have to do. That being said, I've lost 44 lbs and have been seeing a doctor regularly. My health has improved considerably.
Everyone has to do what works best for them, otherwise you won't succeed.0 -
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I want to meet these people that were obese. not overweight, not high normal, OBESE at one time and ate clean all the way to goal. Not clean eating at goal, clean eating during their loss...all the way to goaI. Not halfway to goal and eating clean. ALL THE WAY.
And I'm talking losing 50 pounds or more. I'm not talking about those that were at the high end of normal or even overweight. I'm talking O.FREAKING.BESE. Because I'm kinda thinking that most of the clean eating harpies never really had huge weight problems to begin with.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I see way more "moderation" obese to normal weight success stories than I do, clean eating. The clean eaters either didn't have all that much to lose to begin with, or lost it with moderation and switched closer to/at goal. Which is fine.
Flame away, IDGAF.
Okay, let me get this straight, are you talking about fat, high end normal or over weight? You're talking obese, not heavy, not skinny fat, but overweight, not just a little chubby, but obese.
And for diet you mean all the way, but not half way, or in the beginning, but from the start, from start to finish, as in ALLL the way?
Am I reading that right?0 -
Is there anyone who is NOT currently losing weight, but maintaining a healthy and athletic body who wants to contribute to the "regularly eating junk food is okay" side of this argument?
I'm not sure those people exist
That's what I'm trying to figure out... Just curious
I've been maintaining over a year, and I'm 40 years old. Not quite sure if I count as "athletic," but I've won a couple medals running 5 and 10k races, so I can't be all that shabby. I only started running in Dec. 2010, at age 38, but can run a mile in a little over 7 minutes and a 5k in under 25 minutes. I lift heavy, too.
I don't know if I count as "eating junk regularly," either, because I don't consider it really junk. But I have frozen pizza at least once a week, and will never turn down an offered dessert. I had a bacon big mouth burger last night, with cheesy fries. It was delicious. I have bagels for breakfast most mornings.
Personally, I haven't seen any "clean eaters" bodies that made me think, "Wow... I can really see the difference clean eating makes." I did see women who lift who had bodies that made me think that, and that's why I lift. 0 -
I want to meet these people that were obese. not overweight, not high normal, OBESE at one time and ate clean all the way to goal. Not clean eating at goal, clean eating during their loss...all the way to goaI. Not halfway to goal and eating clean. ALL THE WAY.
And I'm talking losing 50 pounds or more. I'm not talking about those that were at the high end of normal or even overweight. I'm talking O.FREAKING.BESE. Because I'm kinda thinking that most of the clean eating harpies never really had huge weight problems to begin with.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I see way more "moderation" obese to normal weight success stories than I do, clean eating. The clean eaters either didn't have all that much to lose to begin with, or lost it with moderation and switched closer to/at goal. Which is fine.
Flame away, IDGAF.
I know I only had 69 lbs to lose so I don't qualify for your search, but I have lost 53 eating clean, start to finish, and I saw a post yesterday of a girl who had lost over 150 lbs eating pure clean eating the entire time, not one cheat. She was awesome, I'll see if I can find it for you!!
I undesrtand that these people exist, I don't think they are the norm. Sorry.0 -
Exactly what I was going to say. I do have ice cream and crappy food here and there but to eat it all the time, sure you can lose weight but what are you doing for your health?But those aren't clean foods,therefore you're destroying your health0
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