Dress Code
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Probably ruffle feathers here but.....as a business owner, we have a dress code. No open toed shoes...because at one time an employee dropped a case of house paint on her foot and not only broke her toes but dang near cut one off. So...no open toed shoes for anyone.
No shirts with "undesirable" graphics or verbiage. Again....we had an employee show up with a t-shirt that had two rubber hands clutching her boobs.
Jeans are okay as long as they fit well, have no holes, and don't sag at the butt. We had an employee with a hole in her jeans. She caught her leg on the edge of a shelf and since it was there the hole was, she cut her leg. Three stitches. No holes in jeans. We had an employee with saggy pants...tripped on them coming down the stairs. Sprained arm. No baggy jeans.
Tattoos are okay as long as they are not profane. There's nothing worse than having a cashier wearing a low cut shirt with a tattoo that says "F*** Me" scrawled across her boobs.
One visible piercing is okay as long as it is discreet. This excludes ears. Again...safety. One of the kids at work had a little chain from his ear to his lip. Got snagged and ripped it out. Stitches again.
So, while you might wonder what is wrong with wearing tank tops, somewhere down the line there was some sort of incident...whether it was an accident, a customer complaint, or whatever and the business owner said "ok...enough" We just will do away with tank tops.
Just my angle on the subject.0 -
No dress code for my department (aside from common no exposing yourself). Jeans every single day. That's a win in my book.
Edit: Okay, I lied. We have to wear close-toed shoes because we end up walking through the wearhouse to get to the other building. I guess I don't feel like I have a dress code because that's how I dress outside of work too. I don't expose anything and don't wear clothing with holes or a ton of jewelry.0 -
They probably changed the dress code because people were being extreme. They probably saw a lot of people wearing very unprofessional sleeveless tops, and so after a few warnings they changed it to disallow that style.
I think that's the key. I used to work in a bank in a college town. The young tellers would take the dress code to the VERY edge. I don't mind some skin showing, if the person looks good, but this dress was making me uneasy. You also have to keep the company image in mind. In our particular situation, it's best to tame the tellers rather than have the little old ladies take their fat accounts to another bank!
The "no shoulders showing" is probably because of somebody who just didn't do it right and ruined it for everyone.
Where I work now, our dress code is jeans and company-issued polos. We can wear whatever shoes we're comfortable walking around in. I freakin love it!! Don't have to think when I roll out of bed in the morning and no more ironing nice clothes!0 -
So get a new job. It's a free country.
hmmmm, no. It may be a free country but it isn't a country with jobs falling out of the sky. Let's think rationally here, would you quit your job because you couldn't show your shoulders or would you make an interesting post for others to reply to and vent a little......................I think most would go with the latter.
Option 3: I would be thankful for my job and not whine about something as trivial as a dress code.
It's a free country. She can whine if she wants.
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I was gonna say I hate wearing polo's collard shirts.. instead I'm gonna say...
Why is everyone getting into a debate about it?? She didn't say 'Should I quit my job over dress code'.. People should stop being over dramatic!0 -
I think that's a matter of professionalism rather than prudishness.
What is so unprofessional about sleeveless blouse?
My last job had this rule about sleeves and shoulders. Now they're totally Casual, but want nice tops with jeans. My current job is slightly more lenient and weekends are casual. I like the No Flip Flop rule.
Hate flip flops. It's a "smack, smack, smack" when people walk by and those shoes always look nasty and trashy. It's perception of professional dress. I'm sure it just goes back to old fashioned rules, but they rarely update those rules. 0 -
Yup we have it too...the no shoulders is so that people don't try wearing tank tops. When inside the office I'll wear tank top style dresses but have available a jacket when I walk out. What I don't like is the nylons, which they do away with during the summer. Oh well it is what it is.0
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I work in a place that requires everyone to wear uniforms everyday... whats up with that?? lol
God Bless the US Air Force!!!
:-) Thank you for your service [and thank God for those uniforms
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Probably ruffle feathers here but.....as a business owner, we have a dress code. No open toed shoes...because at one time an employee dropped a case of house paint on her foot and not only broke her toes but dang near cut one off. So...no open toed shoes for anyone.
No shirts with "undesirable" graphics or verbiage. Again....we had an employee show up with a t-shirt that had two rubber hands clutching her boobs.
Jeans are okay as long as they fit well, have no holes, and don't sag at the butt. We had an employee with a hole in her jeans. She caught her leg on the edge of a shelf and since it was there the hole was, she cut her leg. Three stitches. No holes in jeans. We had an employee with saggy pants...tripped on them coming down the stairs. Sprained arm. No baggy jeans.
Tattoos are okay as long as they are not profane. There's nothing worse than having a cashier wearing a low cut shirt with a tattoo that says "F*** Me" scrawled across her boobs.
One visible piercing is okay as long as it is discreet. This excludes ears. Again...safety. One of the kids at work had a little chain from his ear to his lip. Got snagged and ripped it out. Stitches again.
So, while you might wonder what is wrong with wearing tank tops, somewhere down the line there was some sort of incident...whether it was an accident, a customer complaint, or whatever and the business owner said "ok...enough" We just will do away with tank tops.
Just my angle on the subject.
Ok for one, that's for safety concerns... but I think most of us (well at least me anyway) are cube rats...
Two, My husband saw a woman working the McDonalds drive through with a tattoo such as you described... she had to wear a bandage over it while at work... it was falling off when he saw the tattoo... :laugh:0 -
No shirts with "undesirable" graphics or verbiage. Again....we had an employee show up with a t-shirt that had two rubber hands clutching her boobs.
Now that made me laugh!0 -
I think dress codes are appropriate, and the strictness of the dress code should be dependent on the industry/environment you are working in. By choosing to work in that industry, you are choosing to accept the dress code that goes along with it.
My wife works at the corporate headquarters for a Fortune 500 company. They have a fairly strict dress code requiring professional business attire. If I wore what the men at her company are required to wear at my job I would be overdressed. I wear jeans, an untucked polo shirt, and a pair of Red Wings boots every day. If I decide to wear a pair of shorts and a t-shirt tomorrow, it's OK - no worries.
I get "it must be nice" from my wife all the time when we're getting ready for work, but we are both aware that our respective dress codes come with the professions we chose and the companies we chose to work for. I love being able to dress how I do at work, but wouldn't hesitate for a minute to put on a suit and tie if I accepted a job that required it.0 -
Dress codes are dress codes. I've worked in companies with no codes and companies with extensive codes. You just deal with it, dress within the guidelines, or move on. Specifically requiring "no shoulders showing" probably makes it a rather professional environment, but it's their prerogative. I don't think they are worried about being "turned on" by your shoulders. It's just a matter of appropriate garb for that particular office, and what image the company has chosen to give.0
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I once worked in an office that dictated what color nail polish you could wear -- only neutral/non-flashy colors or clear and all up to the CEO's discretion. It was a small woman-owned business too. For different folks, different strokes. But I was pretty annoyed to destroy my fabulous Halloween manicure for that policy.0
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I can't think of any place that I have worked that didn't have a dress code policy. I worked in restaurants and had uniforms. I was in the military and had uniforms. I now have a corporate job and there is a dress code policy. I was given a copy to review before my interview, so I knew exactly what was coming before I even had a job offer. No shoulders here, or capris, or shorts, or open toe shoes or tennis shoes, or jeans. I am ok with that. We look nice, professional, and respectable. Besides, we are consultants and need to project a good image for our clients as well. One *kitten* could ruin it for many others.0
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We wear what we want. I come to work almost every single day in jeans, flip flops and a t-shirt. I don't blame any company for having a dress code, but I love that mine doesn't have one With my weight loss, if I ever left, I'd have to buy an entire new wardrobe. 0
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Probably ruffle feathers here but.....as a business owner, we have a dress code. No open toed shoes...because at one time an employee dropped a case of house paint on her foot and not only broke her toes but dang near cut one off. So...no open toed shoes for anyone.
Totally appreciate the feedback here Great response all around. I know for now on casual days, my job gets my baggy jeans. I'm losing size faster than my budget will allow 
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ive had pink in my hair since i was 16. if anyone told me i couldnt, i wouldnt work there
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I work in a state government office and the dress code is pretty much business-casual. We don't get a lot of people from the public coming inside, except for at public meetings, and on those days the employees who will be attending wear suits. But the rest of the time, casual slacks, blouses, cardigans, sweaters, even "dress" jeans are worn regularly.
The one thing I've noticed lately though (that I didn't think was allowed) is some girls wearing flip-flops...and not even the "dressier" flip-flops, just regular Old Navy-style flip-flops. I don't think that's approriate. I love my flip-flops but will never wear them to the office.0 -
If people knew how to dress in a professional environment there wouldn't be a need for a dress code.
Maybe they implemented the no shoulder clause because some idiot came to work in a tube top? Or spaghetti straps? Or some other very non-professional attire?
But I guess it depends... how professional IS your work environment? Are these rules ridiculous because you work in a cheese making factory?0 -
You guys are making me glad I ditched corporate serf-dom for the wacky & wonderful world of startups. In the cold months I wear jeans, wacky/arty t-shirts (Threadless designs rule!) & polar fleece. I started wearing shorts in early April, and will not succumb to the tyranny of pants until probably after Thanksgiving. I ride my bike at lunchtime, then sit in my office in my bike gear while I eat my lunch & cool down before taking a shower. I'm lucky enough to be highly sought after for my skills such that I'll never have to take a job where they care about what you look like more than what you can do.0
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As the person who made the dress code at my company (as well as every other policy), I can tell you that every stupid rule was made for a reason! It only takes one idiot to ruin it for everyone else. Sometimes I feel like a hag for writing down the things I do, but, some idiot somewhere forced my hand!
I do agree, it sucks! But at the same time, people tend to push things too far and this is unfortunatly what happens!0 -
That's the problem. Someone would wear that tank top.It's not like she's going to wear a spaghetti tank top. They make and sell sleeveless business-wear. Just be sensible about it, not tacky.
Yep, you have to define "sensible," which the OP's dress code has done.
My workplace has a dress code. I'm required to wear close-toed shoes, full-length pants (no shorts, capris or skirts), and sleeves every day. No biggie. It's a dress code, not a prison sentence.
I'm sorry but that just sounds ****ty.0 -
I work for a large corporation that had a dress code of Business casual most days and Business dress when we had visitors coming... They would have fashion shows to show what is okay and what is not... the very next day people would be wearing what is NOT... smh.. They would use dress down (jeans, tshirts, sneakers, etc) as incentives....
But beginning in January they decided that they would rather us focus on the customers and not on what we would wear the next day and allowed casual dress all the time..
But in both scenerios there are some that wear OMG are you serious... to the office!! Club and Beachwear is not acceptable at any job unless you are a life guard or a club worker!0 -
Dress codes are dress codes. I've worked in companies with no codes and companies with extensive codes. You just deal with it, dress within the guidelines, or move on. Specifically requiring "no shoulders showing" probably makes it a rather professional environment, but it's their prerogative. I don't think they are worried about being "turned on" by your shoulders. It's just a matter of appropriate garb for that particular office, and what image the company has chosen to give.
I agree with this. I have worked in places with strict dress codes, without dress codes, and everything in between.
Actually, I've always preferred uniforms, but only because of my own self-conciousness with the way I looked. Now that I'm losing weight, and I know that this is forever this time, I'm super glad I now work in a place with a pretty lenient dress code, because I'll be able to show off more. 0 -
In a nursing uniform, made using the worse material known to man........either roasts you in summer or freezes to you in winter. Due to health and safety no jewellery or make up. Sackable offence if any rules are broken. Doctors get to wear what they like, they dont seem to have health and safety issues0
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Dress codes are in place for a couple of good reasons, and they are usually all about the company and not about you.
One of those reasons is that as an employee, you are a physical representation of the company. Just like you might use your appearance to say things about your morals, beliefs, and attitudes to the world, the type of employee a company has and that employee's appearance can say those things about a company. If you choose to work at that company then you have agreed to represent them to the world in the way in which they've dictated.0 -
There are many things that won't get someone past the initial interview but are allowed once hired.
I wear shorts and polos from April until the end of October. I would never wear anything open toe at work unless I am just back to work after having my big toe cut off and screwed back one.
The only place tight shorts are appropriate at work are in the corporate fitness center or while walking outside for a lunch time ride.
20 years ago, it was slacks, shoes and a tie. Then casual Fridays started. Business casual started as khakis and a open collar.
Today, when someone comes in with a short and tie, we assume they are going to a funeral during the day.
Would I have let myself gain 130 pounds if it were still slacks and a tie? Who knows.
Re; sleeveless. Someone should FLOTUS she needs to cover up more. But probably some idiot told her she needs to show off her arms.0 -
My problem is not the dress code I understand that there needs to be one otherwise someone would inevitably show up in pajamas. When you accept the job, you are saying you will uphold their dress code expectations.
What I have a problem with is uneven enforcement of the dress code or selective enforcement by HR people who play favorites. At my previous job I was called in for dress code on more than one occasion, once for shoes that were apparently too high (I had been wearing them for months and never interfered with my job) and once for a skirt that was 'too short'. It bothered me because a manager in another department regularly wore skirts much shorter than mine, she just didn't get in trouble because she was so overweight she didn't look attractive in it. Because I have a decent body and actually looked good in my clothes, I believe I was targeted. Someone overheard some of the guys at work saying I looked good, and that's why I got in trouble. I shouldn't be punished just because I look good. My clothes were still professional. Another thing that bugged me was some people got away with wearing jeans (mostly men), but the women did not. I am not a fan of sexist dress codes.
Other thing I've noticed is that west coast vs. east coast there is a big distinction in what is considered appropriate. East coast seems to have much higher standards.0 -
Apparently the OP asked for a lecture on business etiquette and not funny or interesting comments about weird dress codes at work.0
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There are things that are inappropriate for the workplace whether they are ratty or not. Sleeveless blouses are fine with me, but then people will interpret that to mean they can wear low-cut camisoles instead of blouses. There has to be a line, unfortunately.
More like pettiness rather than professionalism... professionalism would say to not wear ratty clothing...I think that's a matter of professionalism rather than prudishness.
Yes, this ^^ Dress codes have to be written for the lowest common denominator and unfortunately there is always someone pushing the envelope.
Many women wear sleeveless blouses or dresses that allow the bra to be seen through the sleeve hole. Others will wear spaghetti straps or strapless.0
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