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  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,401 MFP Moderator
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    MrM27 wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgRtka5KqUC7qxa8ZzZlsGEOZ4eaiqAIFPVje5Yk_Fwrrq4sR4g

    Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?

    We need @tincanonastring to come up with the Peeps version of this.

    Oh, that's easy! I cover macro splits in my upcoming book The 10 Day Master Peep Cleanse(TM): Maintaining Proper Body Composition Through Peep Color Management - The 50/50/50 Cleanse - Taste 150% Of The Rainbow.


    But how well will this stand up to the sugar free gummy bear ultra cleanse?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    psulemon wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgRtka5KqUC7qxa8ZzZlsGEOZ4eaiqAIFPVje5Yk_Fwrrq4sR4g

    Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?

    We need @tincanonastring to come up with the Peeps version of this.

    Oh, that's easy! I cover macro splits in my upcoming book The 10 Day Master Peep Cleanse(TM): Maintaining Proper Body Composition Through Peep Color Management - The 50/50/50 Cleanse - Taste 150% Of The Rainbow.


    But how well will this stand up to the sugar free gummy bear ultra cleanse?

    THe NDJ Master Pizza cleanse has already been shown to be the only cleanse that actually works….
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
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    psulemon wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgRtka5KqUC7qxa8ZzZlsGEOZ4eaiqAIFPVje5Yk_Fwrrq4sR4g

    Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?

    We need @tincanonastring to come up with the Peeps version of this.

    Oh, that's easy! I cover macro splits in my upcoming book The 10 Day Master Peep Cleanse(TM): Maintaining Proper Body Composition Through Peep Color Management - The 50/50/50 Cleanse - Taste 150% Of The Rainbow.


    But how well will this stand up to the sugar free gummy bear ultra cleanse?

    I think we are moving closer to the box set for Christmas. I know I will buy one for Dr Lustig.

  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgRtka5KqUC7qxa8ZzZlsGEOZ4eaiqAIFPVje5Yk_Fwrrq4sR4g

    Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?

    We need @tincanonastring to come up with the Peeps version of this.

    Oh, that's easy! I cover macro splits in my upcoming book The 10 Day Master Peep Cleanse(TM): Maintaining Proper Body Composition Through Peep Color Management - The 50/50/50 Cleanse - Taste 150% Of The Rainbow.


    But how well will this stand up to the sugar free gummy bear ultra cleanse?

    THe NDJ Master Pizza cleanse has already been shown to be the only cleanse that actually works….

    why-cant-we-have-both.jpg

    20100402-peepza-opener.jpg


  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
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    LMAO!
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    But how well will this stand up to the sugar free gummy bear ultra cleanse?

    THe NDJ Master Pizza cleanse has already been shown to be the only cleanse that actually works….

    I dunno - I've heard that the sugar free gummy bear cleanse is a truly moving experience.

  • peachyfuzzle
    peachyfuzzle Posts: 1,122 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgRtka5KqUC7qxa8ZzZlsGEOZ4eaiqAIFPVje5Yk_Fwrrq4sR4g

    Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?

    We need @tincanonastring to come up with the Peeps version of this.

    Oh, that's easy! I cover macro splits in my upcoming book The 10 Day Master Peep Cleanse(TM): Maintaining Proper Body Composition Through Peep Color Management - The 50/50/50 Cleanse - Taste 150% Of The Rainbow.


    But how well will this stand up to the sugar free gummy bear ultra cleanse?

    THe NDJ Master Pizza cleanse has already been shown to be the only cleanse that actually works….

    why-cant-we-have-both.jpg

    20100402-peepza-opener.jpg


    Wouldn't that be a Peepza?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    But how well will this stand up to the sugar free gummy bear ultra cleanse?

    THe NDJ Master Pizza cleanse has already been shown to be the only cleanse that actually works….

    I dunno - I've heard that the sugar free gummy bear cleanse is a truly moving experience.

    not until you have eaten nothing but pizza for seven days straight and all the toxins melt right out of you ....
  • tincanonastring
    tincanonastring Posts: 3,944 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    But how well will this stand up to the sugar free gummy bear ultra cleanse?

    THe NDJ Master Pizza cleanse has already been shown to be the only cleanse that actually works….

    I dunno - I've heard that the sugar free gummy bear cleanse is a truly moving experience.

    not until you have eaten nothing but pizza for seven days straight and all the toxins melt right out of you ....

    Dat grease doe...That helps lubricate the toxin ducts for maximum cleansing, right?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    But how well will this stand up to the sugar free gummy bear ultra cleanse?

    THe NDJ Master Pizza cleanse has already been shown to be the only cleanse that actually works….

    I dunno - I've heard that the sugar free gummy bear cleanse is a truly moving experience.

    not until you have eaten nothing but pizza for seven days straight and all the toxins melt right out of you ....

    Dat grease doe...That helps lubricate the toxin ducts for maximum cleansing, right?

    well I can't share any copyrighted secrets...

    but you may be onto something...
  • JSurita2
    JSurita2 Posts: 1,304 Member
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    Wow, this thread of full of experts and comedians. I love it.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    herrspoons wrote: »
    What about the bears?

    WHO WILL SPEAK FOR THE BEARS!?
    Ditka.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    MrM27 wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgRtka5KqUC7qxa8ZzZlsGEOZ4eaiqAIFPVje5Yk_Fwrrq4sR4g

    Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?

    We need @tincanonastring to come up with the Peeps version of this.
    Peeps fried in bacon grease.

    Or, peeps fried in coconut oil, cooled for 12 hours, and then re-cooked, for extra extra weightloss.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it :). I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push :p).

    I have no idea what I'm talking about, but do it! It makes you feel totally bada$$. Isn't that motivating enough? And, and... bone density stuff which is maybe a worry for you with hormonal issues?
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it :). I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push :p).

    yes!

    Yay!! Okay, it shall be done :D. And really, it will make lugging 10 litre sample bags of midden at work a hell of a lot easier! (interesting fact - a 10l sample of dense shell midden is considerably lighter than a 10l sample with a higher soil to shell ratio).
    Eagerly awaiting 40 page "midden weighs more than soil" thread.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    jkal1979 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgRtka5KqUC7qxa8ZzZlsGEOZ4eaiqAIFPVje5Yk_Fwrrq4sR4g

    Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?

    We need @tincanonastring to come up with the Peeps version of this.

    Oh, that's easy! I cover macro splits in my upcoming book The 10 Day Master Peep Cleanse(TM): Maintaining Proper Body Composition Through Peep Color Management - The 50/50/50 Cleanse - Taste 150% Of The Rainbow.

    With all these books coming out, will there be a boxed set available?

    ETA: Or possibly a Peep of the Month Club?
    I heard it was going to be a series covering about one book per season, and if the show eventually caught up to the books they might go in two different directions.
  • AgentOrangeJuice
    AgentOrangeJuice Posts: 1,069 Member
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    I'm on the Nerds Body Diet

    nerds-logo-nu4-.png
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
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    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).

    I agree resistance/strength training is key. Nobody retains muscle mass on protein alone.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
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    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it :). I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push :p).

    Go lift some weights. It will preserve the muscle you have. :)
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
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    I just gave you a spam post, ceoverturf.
    I think his reply is a joke.
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
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    SLLRunner wrote: »
    I just gave you a spam post, ceoverturf.
    I think his reply is a joke.

    So was my flag :P