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Yep.. Mean why are we hereNony_Mouse wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).Nony_Mouse wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).
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Yep.. Mean why are we hereNony_Mouse wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).Nony_Mouse wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).
Yep.
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Yep.. Mean why are we hereNony_Mouse wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).Nony_Mouse wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).
Yep.
So do you see yet how your earlier statements were completely oversimplifying it? Not everyone here exercises, and not everyone who does strength trains. Your statements suggest that all you have to do to retain muscle is eat enough protein.0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?
Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?
Dude, that's totes possible...if I only ate rice and coconut oil._Terrapin_ wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
Who is on second but what is #2 again? And IDK is on third. . . .go.Nony_Mouse wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).Nony_Mouse wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).
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Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it. I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it. I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push ).
I have no idea what I'm talking about, but do it! It makes you feel totally bada$$. Isn't that motivating enough? And, and... bone density stuff which is maybe a worry for you with hormonal issues?
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it. I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push ).
yes!
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ceoverturf wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?
Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?
clearly you have not seen my posts promoting my patented 50/50 grapefruit & lard diet.-1 -
I just gave you a spam post, ceoverturf.0
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »
Yep.. Mean why are we hereNony_Mouse wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).Nony_Mouse wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).
Yep.
So do you see yet how your earlier statements were completely oversimplifying it? Not everyone here exercises, and not everyone who does strength trains. Your statements suggest that all you have to do to retain muscle is eat enough protein.
No they haven't arrived yetladybuggnorris wrote: » still waiting
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ceoverturf wrote: »Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.
Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.
However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
Alright give it a try ... I'm listeningyopeeps025 wrote: »Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone
Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.
1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.
2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.
So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
Micros are for health.
Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
Cardio is for heart and lung health.
Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?
Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?
We need @tincanonastring to come up with the Peeps version of this.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it. I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push ).
I have no idea what I'm talking about, but do it! It makes you feel totally bada$$. Isn't that motivating enough? And, and... bone density stuff which is maybe a worry for you with hormonal issues?girlviernes wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it. I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push ).
yes!
Yay!! Okay, it shall be done
. And really, it will make lugging 10 litre sample bags of midden at work a hell of a lot easier! (interesting fact - a 10l sample of dense shell midden is considerably lighter than a 10l sample with a higher soil to shell ratio). 0 -
lift weights girl. you will get stronger,its said to help prevent bone loss as well and its helped my RA to where I dont need meds as of yet.I dont have the pain I did.0
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It also helps protect against injury (given you have good form and a well-rounded routine)0
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