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  • vfit10
    vfit10 Posts: 228 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    this thread has gone full circle.
  • vfit10
    vfit10 Posts: 228 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein. Building muscle is slow and takes a lot of hard work and a good weight lifting program.
    maybe the word that I use isn't the best . And yes you need all 3 macronutrients -- hard work and being consistent pays off
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  • Shikonneko
    Shikonneko Posts: 187 Member
    ... Never has my day been brightened so.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgRtka5KqUC7qxa8ZzZlsGEOZ4eaiqAIFPVje5Yk_Fwrrq4sR4g
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    edited March 2015
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).
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  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgRtka5KqUC7qxa8ZzZlsGEOZ4eaiqAIFPVje5Yk_Fwrrq4sR4g

    Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?

    Dude, that's totes possible...if I only ate rice and coconut oil.
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    Who is on second but what is #2 again? And IDK is on third. . . .go.
  • vfit10
    vfit10 Posts: 228 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).
    Yep.. Mean why are we here
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).

    Yep.
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  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    edited March 2015
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).
    Yep.. Mean why are we here
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).

    Yep.

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  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    edited March 2015
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).
    Yep.. Mean why are we here
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).

    Yep.

    So do you see yet how your earlier statements were completely oversimplifying it? Not everyone here exercises, and not everyone who does strength trains. Your statements suggest that all you have to do to retain muscle is eat enough protein.
  • vfit10
    vfit10 Posts: 228 Member
    usmcmp wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgRtka5KqUC7qxa8ZzZlsGEOZ4eaiqAIFPVje5Yk_Fwrrq4sR4g

    Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?

    Dude, that's totes possible...if I only ate rice and coconut oil.
    _Terrapin_ wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    Who is on second but what is #2 again? And IDK is on third. . . .go.
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).

    Yep.
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it :). I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push :p).
  • ladybuggnorris
    ladybuggnorris Posts: 276 Member
    edited March 2015
    Kruggeri wrote: »
    Maybe when his people get here this will all make sense...

    I haven't been on this thread since this morning and I am not caught up yet, but the suspense is killing me. Did his people arrive yet?
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    edited March 2015
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it :). I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push :p).

    I have no idea what I'm talking about, but do it! It makes you feel totally bada$$. Isn't that motivating enough? And, and... bone density stuff which is maybe a worry for you with hormonal issues?

  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it :). I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push :p).

    yes!
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgRtka5KqUC7qxa8ZzZlsGEOZ4eaiqAIFPVje5Yk_Fwrrq4sR4g

    Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?

    clearly you have not seen my posts promoting my patented 50/50 grapefruit & lard diet.
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    I just gave you a spam post, ceoverturf.
  • vfit10
    vfit10 Posts: 228 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).
    Yep.. Mean why are we here
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    But that person still has to be doing some form of resistance/strength training to preserve that muscle, right? Take me for example, I'm getting adequate protein, but skimping on the strength stuff with my exercise, so probably not retaining as much lean mass as I'd ideally like to (and yes, I really need to get onto that!).

    Yep.

    So do you see yet how your earlier statements were completely oversimplifying it? Not everyone here exercises, and not everyone who does strength trains. Your statements suggest that all you have to do to retain muscle is eat enough protein.
    Kruggeri wrote: »
    Maybe when his people get here this will all make sense...

    I haven't been on this thread since this morning and I am caught up yet, but the suspense is killing me. Did his people arrive yet?
    No they haven't arrived yet :) still waiting

  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Calories in and out determine weight gain/loss and macros determine if its muscle or fat.

    Calories in/out is correct, but macros do not determine whether one has muscle or fat.

    However, in order for one to maintain or build muscle while weight lifting, it's important to get enough protein.
    usmcmp wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    vfit10 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't meant to confuse anyone :)
    Im just trying to simplified things up so everyone that is currently working or just started to work on their journey won't over think stuff.

    1.Only calories in and calories out determine weight change, nothing else.

    2.Macro ratios (P/C/F) determine if the weight change is due to fat or muscle.

    So you do mean to still give wrong information on your second attempt LOL. You are still wrong OP.
    Alright give it a try ... I'm listening :)

    Appropriate calorie deficit is for weight loss.
    Macros are for performance, hormones, growth and organ/tissue repair and function.
    Micros are for health.
    Lifting (not balls to the wall) is for lean mass retention.
    Cardio is for heart and lung health.
    Damm right I agree 100% with you maybe the word (determine) isn't the best... Here is an example ...If someone is on a severely calorie restricted diet with macros of 0/50/50 , then that person will lose a LOT of muscle. Now if change example 40/40/20 (40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat)that person will reduce muscular loss. And let's be honest the goals of losing weight is to get rid of fat as well improving overall health.

    Is that a guarantee regardless of workout regimen?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgRtka5KqUC7qxa8ZzZlsGEOZ4eaiqAIFPVje5Yk_Fwrrq4sR4g

    Bro, DYE5 0/50/50 Diet?

    We need @tincanonastring to come up with the Peeps version of this.

  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    I just gave you a spam post, ceoverturf.

    tumblr_msp755fYCQ1s967p6o1_500.gif
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member

    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it :). I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push :p).

    I have no idea what I'm talking about, but do it! It makes you feel totally bada$$. Isn't that motivating enough? And, and... bone density stuff which is maybe a worry for you with hormonal issues?
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Oh, if someone who knows what they are talking about could please verify that I really do need to be doing some strength work to preserve my meagre muscles I would appreciate it :). I confess to this being an area I'm a little shaky on (in other words, I need a push :p).

    yes!

    Yay!! Okay, it shall be done :D. And really, it will make lugging 10 litre sample bags of midden at work a hell of a lot easier! (interesting fact - a 10l sample of dense shell midden is considerably lighter than a 10l sample with a higher soil to shell ratio).
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    lift weights girl. you will get stronger,its said to help prevent bone loss as well and its helped my RA to where I dont need meds as of yet.I dont have the pain I did.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    herrspoons wrote: »
    What about the bears?

    WHO WILL SPEAK FOR THE BEARS!?

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  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    <---loves Peeps
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    It also helps protect against injury (given you have good form and a well-rounded routine)
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    herrspoons wrote: »
    What about the bears?

    WHO WILL SPEAK FOR THE BEARS!?

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