"Toning" is a deception
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No_Finish_Line wrote: »But all in all I'm not sure why its worth bringing up the toning subject
Just as of recently, weightlifting was just thought as putting on muscle so many women avoided it. If that thought continued, we'd still be living with it. With the internet, more and more females are now finding out that they can enhance what figure they have with weight training.
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No don't sticky it. I use the words toning, building, strengthen, muscular... all of them and they all mean the same thing to me. I'm sure I'm not the only one who understand the ideas behind words.
If someone wants to use the word 'tone' to get fitter and healthier then there is nothing wrong with that.
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/fitness/Pages/home-toning-workout.aspx
If I wrote an article and labeled one "muscle conditioning" and the other "toning workout", I would bet dollars to donuts that the "toning" one would be viewed much more by many more females than the "muscle conditioning" one.
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I am confused about the correct terminology for what I want to do. I have read that what I think I am doing is impossible. I am eating at a deficit and losing weight, 45 pounds since March 8, 2015. I was doing mostly aerobic exercise but now have added what my physical therapist refers to as strength training. I was able to increase reps, intensity and weight, to me this would indicate that I am indeed increasing my strength. The last 2 weeks, I have had an injury that put most of my aerobic activity on hold so I am doing strength training exclusively. My calorie deficit has gone down but my weight loss continues at a healthy pace and inches are also decreasing in body measurements. Something about my metabolism has changed. People say muscle burns more calories than fat on one hand, but also say you can't gain muscle while eating in a deficit. How do I describe in correct terms what is happening?0
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daniwilford wrote: »I am confused about the correct terminology for what I want to do. I have read that what I think I am doing is impossible. I am eating at a deficit and losing weight, 45 pounds since March 8, 2015. I was doing mostly aerobic exercise but now have added what my physical therapist refers to as strength training. I was able to increase reps, intensity and weight, to me this would indicate that I am indeed increasing my strength. The last 2 weeks, I have had an injury that put most of my aerobic activity on hold so I am doing strength training exclusively. My calorie deficit has gone down but my weight loss continues at a healthy pace and inches are also decreasing in body measurements. Something about my metabolism has changed. People say muscle burns more calories than fat on one hand, but also say you can't gain muscle while eating in a deficit. How do I describe in correct terms what is happening?
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daniwilford wrote: »I am confused about the correct terminology for what I want to do. I have read that what I think I am doing is impossible. I am eating at a deficit and losing weight, 45 pounds since March 8, 2015. I was doing mostly aerobic exercise but now have added what my physical therapist refers to as strength training. I was able to increase reps, intensity and weight, to me this would indicate that I am indeed increasing my strength. The last 2 weeks, I have had an injury that put most of my aerobic activity on hold so I am doing strength training exclusively. My calorie deficit has gone down but my weight loss continues at a healthy pace and inches are also decreasing in body measurements. Something about my metabolism has changed. People say muscle burns more calories than fat on one hand, but also say you can't gain muscle while eating in a deficit. How do I describe in correct terms what is happening?
although there are some instances where you can actually build mass while in a deficit, like if you are brand new to weight training...
I think what's mostly going on is the fact that you can condition a muscle (more endurance and even strength) without actually adding muscle mass.
you see that you are lifting more but there is not a 1 to 1 relationship between mass building and strength1 -
RunRutheeRun wrote: »ahhh but I like the word 'toning'
we're just so used to hearing it nowadays, its just a term people use generally....
It is still incorrect though.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »RunRutheeRun wrote: »ahhh but I like the word 'toning'
we're just so used to hearing it nowadays, its just a term people use generally....
It is still incorrect though.
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Thanks. I was literally just researching this subject and debating whether I should post a question to the community, but this takes care of it.0
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Packerjohn wrote: »"Lean muscle" and make the muscles "longer" are a couple more that hurt the ears.
I think longer muscles actually mean something. Weight lifters tend not to have longer muscles that's why they get all that muscle bunching up in an ugly way above their shoulders. I learnt about this in yoga. When you do a headstand there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. If you do it the wrong way you would get those bunched up muscles but if you do it the right way you won't. Its been a while since i've done a headstand but i think the right way is to push into your elbows rather than clamping up around your neck to help you keep balanced.
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Patttience wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »"Lean muscle" and make the muscles "longer" are a couple more that hurt the ears.
I think longer muscles actually mean something. Weight lifters tend not to have longer muscles that's why they get all that muscle bunching up in an ugly way above their shoulders. I learnt about this in yoga. When you do a headstand there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. If you do it the wrong way you would get those bunched up muscles but if you do it the right way you won't. Its been a while since i've done a headstand but i think the right way is to push into your elbows rather than clamping up around your neck to help you keep balanced.
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My cheap radio has "tone"
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No don't sticky it. I use the words toning, building, strengthen, muscular... all of them and they all mean the same thing to me. I'm sure I'm not the only one who understand the ideas behind words.
If someone wants to use the word 'tone' to get fitter and healthier then there is nothing wrong with that.
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/fitness/Pages/home-toning-workout.aspx
Then I can come ask you what you mean every single time.
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Patttience wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »"Lean muscle" and make the muscles "longer" are a couple more that hurt the ears.
I think longer muscles actually mean something. Weight lifters tend not to have longer muscles that's why they get all that muscle bunching up in an ugly way above their shoulders. I learnt about this in yoga. When you do a headstand there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. If you do it the wrong way you would get those bunched up muscles but if you do it the right way you won't. Its been a while since i've done a headstand but i think the right way is to push into your elbows rather than clamping up around your neck to help you keep balanced.
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Indeed.
"weight lifters" (and I'm guessing you mean bodybuilders) don't likely get those muscles from improper headstands.0 -
No_Finish_Line wrote: »
although there are some instances where you can actually build mass while in a deficit, like if you are brand new to weight training...
I think what's mostly going on is the fact that you can condition a muscle (more endurance and even strength) without actually adding muscle mass.
you see that you are lifting more but there is not a 1 to 1 relationship between mass building and strength
I need the weight training for dummies version, please explain the difference between building and strengthening a muscle?0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »No don't sticky it. I use the words toning, building, strengthen, muscular... all of them and they all mean the same thing to me. I'm sure I'm not the only one who understand the ideas behind words.
If someone wants to use the word 'tone' to get fitter and healthier then there is nothing wrong with that.
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/fitness/Pages/home-toning-workout.aspx
Then I can come ask you what you mean every single time.
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Patttience wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »"Lean muscle" and make the muscles "longer" are a couple more that hurt the ears.
I think longer muscles actually mean something. Weight lifters tend not to have longer muscles that's why they get all that muscle bunching up in an ugly way above their shoulders. I learnt about this in yoga. When you do a headstand there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. If you do it the wrong way you would get those bunched up muscles but if you do it the right way you won't. Its been a while since i've done a headstand but i think the right way is to push into your elbows rather than clamping up around your neck to help you keep balanced.
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Patttience wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »"Lean muscle" and make the muscles "longer" are a couple more that hurt the ears.
I think longer muscles actually mean something. Weight lifters tend not to have longer muscles that's why they get all that muscle bunching up in an ugly way above their shoulders. I learnt about this in yoga. When you do a headstand there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. If you do it the wrong way you would get those bunched up muscles but if you do it the right way you won't. Its been a while since i've done a headstand but i think the right way is to push into your elbows rather than clamping up around your neck to help you keep balanced.
Wut?
Is she talking about traps? IDK
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Patttience wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »"Lean muscle" and make the muscles "longer" are a couple more that hurt the ears.
I think longer muscles actually mean something. Weight lifters tend not to have longer muscles that's why they get all that muscle bunching up in an ugly way above their shoulders. I learnt about this in yoga. When you do a headstand there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. If you do it the wrong way you would get those bunched up muscles but if you do it the right way you won't. Its been a while since i've done a headstand but i think the right way is to push into your elbows rather than clamping up around your neck to help you keep balanced.
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