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  • vinceno21
    vinceno21 Posts: 32 Member
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    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,389 MFP Moderator
    edited February 2017
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    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455

    Did you read that i said for fun? I know they are not accurate.

    And why would my numbers matter? Knowledge isnt directly correlated with how much you lift. Look at Lyle McDonald.
  • mercmouth
    mercmouth Posts: 2 Member
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    LOL - well looks like everyone is in agreement that these are the three most important lifts. I agree that these compound lifts are the most rewarding when one considers time management.

    Squat - 225lbs 2 sets at 10 reps (afraid to max out)
    Deadlift - 270lbs 3 sets at 1 rep
    Bench - 175 3 sets at 4 reps - for some reason I have not been getting any gains for about 2 years now

    179 lbs
    15.5% bf

    About 4 years of bulk and cut cycles - just started another cut cycle

  • mercmouth
    mercmouth Posts: 2 Member
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    oh and LOL 450lbs on the smith leg press :D 3 sets at 5-8 reps each.. depends on the tune in my ears
  • vinceno21
    vinceno21 Posts: 32 Member
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    psuLemon wrote: »
    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455

    Did you read that i said for fun? I know they are not accurate.

    I did see that and take it from someone with experience that its not accurate. You could easily be stronger (or weaker) than that number you posted so don't let that mess with you mentally. I specifically commented on this because I used to use that and I let fake numbers get to me. People who haven't developed proper form should definitely work at a higher volume to pound in that technique. More sets and fewer reps are ideal for a seasoned lifter who has taken the time to develop all of the fundamentals.
  • vinceno21
    vinceno21 Posts: 32 Member
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    psuLemon wrote: »
    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455

    Did you read that i said for fun? I know they are not accurate.

    And why would my numbers matter? Knowledge isnt directly correlated with how much you lift. Look at Lyle McDonald.

    Since you added to your comment i'll address that as well. Are you comparing yourself to Lyle Mcdonald? Anything physical requires much trial and error to achieve your goals. Nobody usually jumps on a compound movement and naturally has great form without hours of practice and failure. Never should you take advice from people who read a few articles and regurgitate what they read without actually experiencing it.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,389 MFP Moderator
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    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455

    Did you read that i said for fun? I know they are not accurate.

    And why would my numbers matter? Knowledge isnt directly correlated with how much you lift. Look at Lyle McDonald.

    Since you added to your comment i'll address that as well. Are you comparing yourself to Lyle Mcdonald? Anything physical requires much trial and error to achieve your goals. Nobody usually jumps on a compound movement and naturally has great form without hours of practice and failure. Never should you take advice from people who read a few articles and regurgitate what they read without actually experiencing it.

    No, i am not. I do not have the experience or qualifications of him. And i know it was accurate.

    So at what weight do i nees to lifr before i can offer valid advice? Do i get any additional for things like the severe tendinitis in both my forearms and wrist? How about the arthritis building up in my shoulders? Maybe the sciatica issues i have dealt with.

    Knowledge does come with experience. But being able to lift big doesn't mean you are knowledgeable. It can mean you had a good teacher of form and a solid plan. It also might mean that you did that and combine with enhancers to get you there.

    So if you want to judge me, fine but do it on my knowledge, not how much i lift.
  • not_a_runner
    not_a_runner Posts: 1,343 Member
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    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455

    This wasn't the only poster to mention using a 1RM calculator.
    Are we going to call everyone else out as well or is your beef personal?
  • vinceno21
    vinceno21 Posts: 32 Member
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    psuLemon wrote: »
    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455

    Did you read that i said for fun? I know they are not accurate.

    And why would my numbers matter? Knowledge isnt directly correlated with how much you lift. Look at Lyle McDonald.

    Since you added to your comment i'll address that as well. Are you comparing yourself to Lyle Mcdonald? Anything physical requires much trial and error to achieve your goals. Nobody usually jumps on a compound movement and naturally has great form without hours of practice and failure. Never should you take advice from people who read a few articles and regurgitate what they read without actually experiencing it.

    No, i am not. I do not have the experience or qualifications of him. And i know it was accurate.

    So at what weight do i nees to lifr before i can offer valid advice? Do i get any additional for things like the severe tendinitis in both my forearms and wrist? How about the arthritis building up in my shoulders? Maybe the sciatica issues i have dealt with.

    Knowledge does come with experience. But being able to lift big doesn't mean you are knowledgeable. It can mean you had a good teacher of form and a solid plan. It also might mean that you did that and combine with enhancers to get you there.

    So if you want to judge me, fine but do it on my knowledge, not how much i lift.

    Strength comes with experience and knowledge. Ask any power lifter out there and they will tell you how they have learned so much from their injuries that have happened over time and how they have adapted (tweaking technique, routines, weight, therapy etc). As to your injuries, I can tell that you probably practiced incorrect form and developed some bad habits. Me personally I have had my share of injuries, but I corrected them all and have zero pain in my body at the moment. Also, i believe I did judge you on your knowledge. Any beginner should spend as much time as possible learning proper technique versus jumping straight into power lifting routines, which lead to a list of injuries due to under development. Yes I am all about moving big weight, but I am more concerned about practicing proper technique over anything. I never said you cant offer advice i'm just making it clear to people that you need to take people with little experience recommendations with a grain of salt.
  • vinceno21
    vinceno21 Posts: 32 Member
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    tross0924 wrote: »
    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455

    Squat - 525
    Deads - 600
    Bench - 375

    Dude, you should get your numbers way up before you throw shade at other people for their numbers.

    Listen, I never threw the guy shade for his numbers ok? I'm not one to say oh you're weak so don't speak. That type of mentality is such a waste. I was telling him that if you're a beginner you shouldn't jump straight into powerlifting routines if you don't even have the basics down. Also, it seems like you are a bit hypocritical by sying dont throw someone shade about their numbers then say I should get mine up. Great job you're strong and you also have been lifting for 10 more years than I have lol.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    edited February 2017
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    vinceno21 wrote: »
    tross0924 wrote: »
    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455

    Squat - 525
    Deads - 600
    Bench - 375

    Dude, you should get your numbers way up before you throw shade at other people for their numbers.

    Listen, I never threw the guy shade for his numbers ok? I'm not one to say oh you're weak so don't speak. That type of mentality is such a waste. I was telling him that if you're a beginner you shouldn't jump straight into powerlifting routines if you don't even have the basics down. Also, it seems like you are a bit hypocritical by sying dont throw someone shade about their numbers then say I should get mine up. Great job you're strong and you also have been lifting for 10 more years than I have lol.

    Yes, you did. You told him he needs to be stronger before he offers advice on programming.


  • vinceno21
    vinceno21 Posts: 32 Member
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    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455

    This wasn't the only poster to mention using a 1RM calculator.
    Are we going to call everyone else out as well or is your beef personal?

    How about you read the thread before jumping to conclusions. I called him out because he was telling a noob to start going heavier and cut down the reps. MY POINT IS WHO CARES ABOUT WEIGHT WHEN YOU STILL HAVENT LEARNED THE MOVEMENT PROPERLY!!!
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    edited February 2017
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    vinceno21 wrote: »
    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455

    This wasn't the only poster to mention using a 1RM calculator.
    Are we going to call everyone else out as well or is your beef personal?

    How about you read the thread before jumping to conclusions. I called him out because he was telling a noob to start going heavier and cut down the reps. MY POINT IS WHO CARES ABOUT WEIGHT WHEN YOU STILL HAVENT LEARNED THE MOVEMENT PROPERLY!!!

    The person he quoted has been lifting on and off for two years and he listed maxes in sets of 10 and 15. The advice he got was to try lifting a bit heavier in a lower rep range (4-6) and it will likely allow him to get stronger at a faster pace.

    It was accurate advice based on the information provided.

    Tell me what it is about this advice that you think isn't good based on the information provided.

  • not_a_runner
    not_a_runner Posts: 1,343 Member
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    vinceno21 wrote: »
    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455

    This wasn't the only poster to mention using a 1RM calculator.
    Are we going to call everyone else out as well or is your beef personal?

    How about you read the thread before jumping to conclusions. I called him out because he was telling a noob to start going heavier and cut down the reps. MY POINT IS WHO CARES ABOUT WEIGHT WHEN YOU STILL HAVENT LEARNED THE MOVEMENT PROPERLY!!!

    So he's doing the movement improperly because he's not stronger than he is? Or? How are you to know that he's doing it improperly based on his # s and comments here?
  • vinceno21
    vinceno21 Posts: 32 Member
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    SideSteel wrote: »
    vinceno21 wrote: »
    tross0924 wrote: »
    vinceno21 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.

    DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
    Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)

    Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.

    Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.

    Bench - 325lb
    Squat - 425
    DL - 455

    Squat - 525
    Deads - 600
    Bench - 375

    Dude, you should get your numbers way up before you throw shade at other people for their numbers.

    Listen, I never threw the guy shade for his numbers ok? I'm not one to say oh you're weak so don't speak. That type of mentality is such a waste. I was telling him that if you're a beginner you shouldn't jump straight into powerlifting routines if you don't even have the basics down. Also, it seems like you are a bit hypocritical by sying dont throw someone shade about their numbers then say I should get mine up. Great job you're strong and you also have been lifting for 10 more years than I have lol.

    Yes, you did. You told him he needs to be stronger before he offers advice on programming.


    The root of my comment was him telling a beginner to go heavier and drop the reps before they learn the movement. You are correct I definitely did come off wrong and didn't mean it like that. My point is don't take advice from people who haven't really accomplished much in the sport. Am I saying I have accomplished a lot? Not at all! I firmly believe in proper technique over throwing on a bunch of weight and crossing your fingers that you don't get inured. Not trying to argue with you guys and I don't take anything personally. I played football as a youth and was surrounded by a bunch of uneducated football coaches who tore up kids bodies in the gym with their barbaric ways of lifting.