FED UP - The documentary, know more about food!
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Fructose best treatment for hypoglycemia? You sure?chrissywelsh10 wrote: »Wow - firstly refined sugar is not the same as fructose. .
No it is not. Sugar that has been refined from cane or beets is sucrose which takes longer to break down in your system because it is a disaccharide (2 different types of sugar make up the molecule, in the case of cane or beet sugar it is fructose and glucose). Fructose hits your system quicker because it is a monosaccharide. (This is why it is best to give someone having a hypoglycemic episode fructose in the form of fruit juice or glucose tablets, because it hit the system quicker and spikes the blood sugar faster than sucrose, corn syrup, or honey)
Yeah, that doesn't sound right to me either, at least for all cases. It depends on what is causing the hypoglycemia. I was diagnosed with reactive hypoglycemia when I was 12 and had to go to the school nurse all the time from junior high through high school because of sugar crashes. I was supposed to eat complex carbs or something with carbs and protein together. Another kid had juvenile diabetes and was often in there at the same time as I was. He got to have Coke for his low sugar.0 -
MagicalGiraffe wrote: »emmabanks87 wrote: »
Wait so if fish is just plain white stuff, what the heck type of organism is this salmon that I'm eating?!
One fish, two fish.
Red fish.
Blue Fish.
Red, obvs.0 -
Fructose best treatment for hypoglycemia? You sure?chrissywelsh10 wrote: »Wow - firstly refined sugar is not the same as fructose. .
No it is not. Sugar that has been refined from cane or beets is sucrose which takes longer to break down in your system because it is a disaccharide (2 different types of sugar make up the molecule, in the case of cane or beet sugar it is fructose and glucose). Fructose hits your system quicker because it is a monosaccharide. (This is why it is best to give someone having a hypoglycemic episode fructose in the form of fruit juice or glucose tablets, because it hit the system quicker and spikes the blood sugar faster than sucrose, corn syrup, or honey)
Yup, I'm sure. When one of my diabetic friends have a hypo episode fruit juice (which contains fructose) or glucose tabs are what their doctors recommend to quickly raise their blood sugar. Sucrose can take a couple of minutes longer but is good if the others aren't available.
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kaseyr1505 wrote: »Somewhere, there is a dead horse that is getting beaten.
Dang....emoticon doesn't work here..
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This.Want to talk about odd labeling? I've seen gluten free sugar, gluten free soap, and even gluten free shirts.
People will fall for anything.
In terms of gluten free soaps/shampoos... there are chemicals that are derived from gluten. For those with Celiac and some with an intolerance, these chemicals/ingredients can cause a skin reactions. In the case of my wife, she has persistent dry and itchy scalp. This was the case even after trying 15 different shampoo. It was not until she tried a shampoo that did not have this ingredient was she able to get rid of the dry and itchy scalp. I would suggest thinking of it like medicines that are derived from a ingredient you are allergic to. For me, anything that even remotely tied to penicillin will make me ill.
Not everything is cut and dry.
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kaseyr1505 wrote: »Somewhere, there is a dead horse that is getting beaten.
Dang....emoticon doesn't work here..
How about this one? Works for threads like this in my opinion.
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MagicalGiraffe wrote: »emmabanks87 wrote: »
Wait so if fish is just plain white stuff, what the heck type of organism is this salmon that I'm eating?!
salmon is fish of course!!
but its more like mackerel, sardines etc. myself (my opinion not fact!) would class it different to cod and haddock as the calories and fat content are different 0 -
emmabanks87 wrote: »MagicalGiraffe wrote: »emmabanks87 wrote: »
Wait so if fish is just plain white stuff, what the heck type of organism is this salmon that I'm eating?!
salmon is fish of course!! but its more like mackerel, sardines etc. myself (my opinion not fact!) would class it different to cod and haddock as the calories and fat content are different
They are being sarcastic.
"Clean eating" is an arbitrary term that means different things to different people. And using the term here is like lighting a match in a shed full of fireworks.0 -
emmabanks87 wrote: »MagicalGiraffe wrote: »emmabanks87 wrote: »
Wait so if fish is just plain white stuff, what the heck type of organism is this salmon that I'm eating?!
salmon is fish of course!! but its more like mackerel, sardines etc. myself (my opinion not fact!) would class it different to cod and haddock as the calories and fat content are different
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so we went from sugar is evil to clean food discussion..and apparently the tomato sauce I make at home with veggies I grow in my garden isn't clean...okay gotcha...
*kicks compost pile to the curb cause I won't be growing no more veggies*0 -
so we went from sugar is evil to clean food discussion..and apparently the tomato sauce I make at home with veggies I grow in my garden isn't clean...okay gotcha...
*kicks compost pile to the curb cause I won't be growing no more veggies*
If now someone mentions a detox cleanse, does an angel get its wings?0 -
so we went from sugar is evil to clean food discussion..and apparently the tomato sauce I make at home with veggies I grow in my garden isn't clean...okay gotcha...
*kicks compost pile to the curb cause I won't be growing no more veggies*
If now someone mentions a detox cleanse, does an angel get its wings?
no but it's almost bingo I think
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so we went from sugar is evil to clean food discussion..and apparently the tomato sauce I make at home with veggies I grow in my garden isn't clean...okay gotcha...
*kicks compost pile to the curb cause I won't be growing no more veggies*
'clean eating' is just a phase!!! does 'one ingredient' food sound better?? but dont get confused, you can use 'one ingredient's together so you can still make your homemade tomato sauce with your veggies! just make sure you clean the veggies first yeah? dont want a batch of soil in the sauce! although could make it organic maybe?
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emmabanks87 wrote: »so we went from sugar is evil to clean food discussion..and apparently the tomato sauce I make at home with veggies I grow in my garden isn't clean...okay gotcha...
*kicks compost pile to the curb cause I won't be growing no more veggies*
'clean eating' is just a phase!!! does 'one ingredient' food sound better?? but dont get confused, you can use 'one ingredient's together so you can still make your homemade tomato sauce with your veggies! just make sure you clean the veggies first yeah? dont want a batch of soil in the sauce! although could make it organic maybe?
I am not confused just pointing out that the definition of clean is to varied...thereby as silly as "sugar is evil"...
Don't get me wrong I eat 80/20 most of my food is lean meats and veggies and whole grains but the other 20% is processed and nom nom and even 30% sometimes and if I am drinking reverse it.
And my sister is as bad as me and she is lean and low bodyfat too...clean eating doesn't guarantee that...only a calorie deficit with good macros does and probably some sort of exercise preferably lifting.
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emmabanks87 wrote: »so we went from sugar is evil to clean food discussion..and apparently the tomato sauce I make at home with veggies I grow in my garden isn't clean...okay gotcha...
*kicks compost pile to the curb cause I won't be growing no more veggies*
'clean eating' is just a phase!!! does 'one ingredient' food sound better?? but dont get confused, you can use 'one ingredient's together so you can still make your homemade tomato sauce with your veggies! just make sure you clean the veggies first yeah? dont want a batch of soil in the sauce! although could make it organic maybe?
I am not confused just pointing out that the definition of clean is to varied...thereby as silly as "sugar is evil"...
Don't get me wrong I eat 80/20 most of my food is lean meats and veggies and whole grains but the other 20% is processed and nom nom and even 30% sometimes and if I am drinking reverse it.
And my sister is as bad as me and she is lean and low bodyfat too...clean eating doesn't guarantee that...only a calorie deficit with good macros does and probably some sort of exercise preferably lifting.
yep i agree! I try to stick to the 80/20 rule. need my cheat meal once a week! I know all the healthy stuff to eat but omg I freaking love cake, doughnuts, ice cream etc so much!! super mega jealous of my best friend, same age as me, and she can eat as much crap as she wants and is so slim! she thinks im mad being obsessed with healthy eating and exercise. life can be cruel sometimes! lol0 -
Danielle_Husband wrote: »
Fructose best treatment for hypoglycemia? You sure?chrissywelsh10 wrote: »Wow - firstly refined sugar is not the same as fructose. .
No it is not. Sugar that has been refined from cane or beets is sucrose which takes longer to break down in your system because it is a disaccharide (2 different types of sugar make up the molecule, in the case of cane or beet sugar it is fructose and glucose). Fructose hits your system quicker because it is a monosaccharide. (This is why it is best to give someone having a hypoglycemic episode fructose in the form of fruit juice or glucose tablets, because it hit the system quicker and spikes the blood sugar faster than sucrose, corn syrup, or honey)
Yeah, that doesn't sound right to me either, at least for all cases. It depends on what is causing the hypoglycemia. I was diagnosed with reactive hypoglycemia when I was 12 and had to go to the school nurse all the time from junior high through high school because of sugar crashes. I was supposed to eat complex carbs or something with carbs and protein together. Another kid had juvenile diabetes and was often in there at the same time as I was. He got to have Coke for his low sugar.
For diabetics, best is the one that you can get the easiest and in you the fastest
It's highly situational. Generally though anything which is a liquid sugar is desirable, be it juice or full fat pop. I never have these in the house though, I just jump for anything sugary and lie there until I can move again. If I ever got myself into a serious pickle I have a glycogen kit in the fridge which would be the fastest treatment. Simple sugars would then be followed up by a more complex carb so you don't spike as hard and have a reactive hypo.
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so we went from sugar is evil to clean food discussion..and apparently the tomato sauce I make at home with veggies I grow in my garden isn't clean...okay gotcha...
*kicks compost pile to the curb cause I won't be growing no more veggies*
That's a good thing. I did the math and homemade tomato sauce has lots of--gasp!--sugar. Filthy.
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This made me laugh.lemurcat12 wrote: »Like I said in my last post, I don't even think I'm arguing with you.
I'm not arguing with you! (Writes huge wall of text arguing.)
Okay, this made me laugh, although the "wall of text" wasn't actually intended as an argument. I hate arguments when I don't even know what the disagreement is!0 -
MagicalGiraffe wrote: »Danielle_Husband wrote: »
Fructose best treatment for hypoglycemia? You sure?chrissywelsh10 wrote: »Wow - firstly refined sugar is not the same as fructose. .
No it is not. Sugar that has been refined from cane or beets is sucrose which takes longer to break down in your system because it is a disaccharide (2 different types of sugar make up the molecule, in the case of cane or beet sugar it is fructose and glucose). Fructose hits your system quicker because it is a monosaccharide. (This is why it is best to give someone having a hypoglycemic episode fructose in the form of fruit juice or glucose tablets, because it hit the system quicker and spikes the blood sugar faster than sucrose, corn syrup, or honey)
Yeah, that doesn't sound right to me either, at least for all cases. It depends on what is causing the hypoglycemia. I was diagnosed with reactive hypoglycemia when I was 12 and had to go to the school nurse all the time from junior high through high school because of sugar crashes. I was supposed to eat complex carbs or something with carbs and protein together. Another kid had juvenile diabetes and was often in there at the same time as I was. He got to have Coke for his low sugar.
For diabetics, best is the one that you can get the easiest and in you the fastest It's highly situational. Generally though anything which is a liquid sugar is desirable, be it juice or full fat pop. I never have these in the house though, I just jump for anything sugary and lie there until I can move again. If I ever got myself into a serious pickle I have a glycogen kit in the fridge which would be the fastest treatment. Simple sugars would then be followed up by a more complex carb so you don't spike as hard and have a reactive hypo.
Agreed I watched my brother go through this about 2 years ago...we had to wait at a resturant tooooo long after he took his insulin...he needs 2 large glasses of orange juice before he could talk, move, stopped sweating and could see again...
highly situational....because I've seen him down a chocolate bar like a women pmsing x10...
and when we were kids we had liquid sugar everywhere in the house....it looked like a glue bottle...
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emmabanks87 wrote: »so we went from sugar is evil to clean food discussion..and apparently the tomato sauce I make at home with veggies I grow in my garden isn't clean...okay gotcha...
*kicks compost pile to the curb cause I won't be growing no more veggies*
'clean eating' is just a phase!!! does 'one ingredient' food sound better?? but dont get confused, you can use 'one ingredient's together so you can still make your homemade tomato sauce with your veggies! just make sure you clean the veggies first yeah? dont want a batch of soil in the sauce! although could make it organic maybe?
Wait, what? Using one ingredient foods together means that a food is still clean?
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Anything processed is going to be loaded with salt, sugar and fat.
The oatmeal I ate this morning has no "salt, sugar, and fat," and yet it's processed. The meat I get from a local farm has plenty of fat, though, and the milk from the same farm has fat AND sugar (lactose). I personally add some salt and pepper to the meat when I cook it, because I think it tastes better that way.
If lactose doesn't count, I often buy greek yogurt (from a grocery store in a carton) that has no other sugar or fat, the absence of fat being a sign that it's super extra processed.
So on.
Also, rather than arbitrarily cutting out processed items, there's a pretty easy way I've heard of to find out what's in them, if you care.0 -
I care 30% - lollemurcat12 wrote: »Anything processed is going to be loaded with salt, sugar and fat.
The oatmeal I ate this morning has no "salt, sugar, and fat," and yet it's processed. The meat I get from a local farm has plenty of fat, though, and the milk from the same farm has fat AND sugar (lactose). I personally add some salt and pepper to the meat when I cook it, because I think it tastes better that way.
If lactose doesn't count, I often buy greek yogurt (from a grocery store in a carton) that has no other sugar or fat, the absence of fat being a sign that it's super extra processed.
So on.
Also, rather than arbitrarily cutting out processed items, there's a pretty easy way I've heard of to find out what's in them, if you care.
I admitted that life is also to be lived in that we should not be too Nazi with our food intake.
I eat clean most of the time as defined: leans meats, nuts, raw dairy, whole grains and fresh fruits and veggies. That works for me not just for mere weight loss but optimal health and peak fitness.0 -
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I agree Orange juice is awesome for sure. My mother has it in her fridge at all times which is off limits to anyone who goes there. Add a tbls of sugar to a cup and you're golden.MagicalGiraffe wrote: »Danielle_Husband wrote: »
Fructose best treatment for hypoglycemia? You sure?chrissywelsh10 wrote: »Wow - firstly refined sugar is not the same as fructose. .
No it is not. Sugar that has been refined from cane or beets is sucrose which takes longer to break down in your system because it is a disaccharide (2 different types of sugar make up the molecule, in the case of cane or beet sugar it is fructose and glucose). Fructose hits your system quicker because it is a monosaccharide. (This is why it is best to give someone having a hypoglycemic episode fructose in the form of fruit juice or glucose tablets, because it hit the system quicker and spikes the blood sugar faster than sucrose, corn syrup, or honey)
Yeah, that doesn't sound right to me either, at least for all cases. It depends on what is causing the hypoglycemia. I was diagnosed with reactive hypoglycemia when I was 12 and had to go to the school nurse all the time from junior high through high school because of sugar crashes. I was supposed to eat complex carbs or something with carbs and protein together. Another kid had juvenile diabetes and was often in there at the same time as I was. He got to have Coke for his low sugar.
For diabetics, best is the one that you can get the easiest and in you the fastest It's highly situational. Generally though anything which is a liquid sugar is desirable, be it juice or full fat pop. I never have these in the house though, I just jump for anything sugary and lie there until I can move again. If I ever got myself into a serious pickle I have a glycogen kit in the fridge which would be the fastest treatment. Simple sugars would then be followed up by a more complex carb so you don't spike as hard and have a reactive hypo.
Agreed I watched my brother go through this about 2 years ago...we had to wait at a resturant tooooo long after he took his insulin...he needs 2 large glasses of orange juice before he could talk, move, stopped sweating and could see again...
highly situational....because I've seen him down a chocolate bar like a women pmsing x10...
and when we were kids we had liquid sugar everywhere in the house....it looked like a glue bottle...
The chocolate is okay imo but the absorption rate diminishes with the fat.
Rice krispies treat now that's a nice back up plan to have around.
The problem I have with liquid sugar when having a hypo is that it's easy to drink more than you need and overtreat the hypo, whilst taking in a buttload of calories since it's not something you can easily measure out whilst you're hypo. Also having the munchies can be a common symptom, so even after you have that juice you're still going to be craving for something to eat! I most often have a cereal bar, since I know it is X amount of calories, and X amount of carbs therefore should increase my blood sugar by X amount. Also I can count the amount of wrappers afterwards to see how many I ate! I should probably get small juice boxes in for those situations where I can't get myself downstairs but so I can still control the calories I'm eating and know how many carbs I'm ingesting.0 -
I want M&Ms now.0
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MagicalGiraffe wrote: »
For diabetics, best is the one that you can get the easiest and in you the fastest It's highly situational. Generally though anything which is a liquid sugar is desirable, be it juice or full fat pop. I never have these in the house though, I just jump for anything sugary and lie there until I can move again. If I ever got myself into a serious pickle I have a glycogen kit in the fridge which would be the fastest treatment. Simple sugars would then be followed up by a more complex carb so you don't spike as hard and have a reactive hypo.
What in the world is full fat pop? Because pop = soda. And last I check, there wasn't any fat floating around in my soda.
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MagicalGiraffe wrote: »
For diabetics, best is the one that you can get the easiest and in you the fastest It's highly situational. Generally though anything which is a liquid sugar is desirable, be it juice or full fat pop. I never have these in the house though, I just jump for anything sugary and lie there until I can move again. If I ever got myself into a serious pickle I have a glycogen kit in the fridge which would be the fastest treatment. Simple sugars would then be followed up by a more complex carb so you don't spike as hard and have a reactive hypo.
What in the world is full fat pop? Because pop = soda. And last I check, there wasn't any fat floating around in my soda.
In the UK that's what we call regular soda as opposed to diet soda. We're aware that it has no more fat in it than diet, it's just a term we use! It may even be regional but I'm not sure on that.0
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