Diet Soda

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  • emmanuel4everjackson
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    glevinso wrote: »
    That isn't evidence. That is an "article", and a pretty stupid one at that. It lacks actual facts and mistakes correlation for causation.

    Agree to disagree :)
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
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    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCIQFjAB&url=http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20739512,00.html&ei=RMlsVMnoBoi0yQSzyIG4Cw&usg=AFQjCNGqo0Ufz9W2F8gh6EebXEnMRVP8Jg&sig2=O9sjf9klOVqr3lNeigIk5w&bvm=bv.80120444,d.aWw

    When taken at face value, diet soda seems like a health-conscious choice. It saves you the 140-plus calories you'd find in a sugary soft drink while still satisfying your urge for something sweet with artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose. But there's more to this chemical cocktail than meets the eye.

    Artificial sweeteners have more intense flavor than real sugar, so over time products like diet soda dull our senses to naturally sweet foods like fruit, says Brooke Alpert, RD, author of The Sugar Detox. Even more troubling, these sugar stand-ins have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. "Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain," Alpert says.

    Diet soda is calorie-free, but it won't necessarily help you lose weight. Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza.

    Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes, Bjork explains.

    When you drink diet soda, you're not taking in any calories—but you're also not swallowing anything that does your body any good, either. The best no-calorie beverage? Plain old water, says Bjork. "Water is essential for many of our bodily processes, so replacing it with diet soda is a negative thing," she says. If it's the fizziness you crave, try sparkling water.

    Early studies on aspartame and anecdotal evidence suggests that this artificial sweetener may trigger headaches in some people. "I have several clients who used to suffer from migraines and pinpointed their cause to diet soda," Bjork says.

    Excessive soda drinking could leave you looking like a Breaking Bad extra, according to a case study published in the journal General Dentistry. The research compared the mouths of a cocaine-user, a methamphetamine-user, and a habitual diet-soda drinker, and found the same level of tooth erosion in each of them. The culprit here is citric acid, which weakens and destroys tooth enamel over time.

    Using diet soda as a low-calorie cocktail mixer has the dangerous effect of getting you drunk faster than sugar-sweetened beverages, according to research from Northern Kentucky University. The study revealed that participants who consumed cocktails mixed with diet drinks had a higher breath alcohol concentration than those who drank alcohol blended with sugared beverages. The researchers believe this is because our bloodstream is able to absorb artificial sweetener more quickly than sugar.

    A recent study presented at a the American Academy of Neurology meeting found that over the course of 10 years, people who drank more than four cups or cans of soda a day were 30% more likely to develop depression than those who steered clear of sugary drinks. The correlation held true for both regular and diet drinks, but researchers were sure to note that the risk appeared to be greater for those who primarily drank diet sodas and fruit punches. Although this type of study can't prove cause and effect, its findings are worth considering.

    Women over 60 are already at a greater risk for osteoporosis than men, and Tufts University researchers found that drinking soda, including diet soda, compounds the problem. They discovered that female cola drinkers had nearly 4% lower bone mineral density in their hips than women who didn't drink soda. The research even controlled for the participants' calcium and vitamin D intake. Additionally, a 2006 study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that cola intake (all kinds, not just diet) was associated with low bone-mineral density in women.

    Just one diet soft drink a day could boost your risk of having a vascular event such as stroke, heart attack, or vascular death, according to researchers from the University of Miami and Columbia University. Their study found that diet soda devotees were 43% more likely to have experienced a vascular event than those who drank none. Regular soda drinkers did not appear to have an increased risk of vascular events. Researchers say more studies need to be conducted before definitive conclusions can be made about diet soda's effects on health.

    You pick healthy food, work out, and watch your waistline. That means you're healthy right? Not so fast--many people who are in tip-top shape (for now) have habits or beliefs that can put them at risk for illness or injury down the road.
    RGv2 wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Diet coke is not healthy, lol!

    Diet coke is not unhealthy, lol!

    Agree to disagree :)

    Please share with us what is unhealthy about it when consumed in moderation?

    ^^^Yes, please do.

    Sorry, that's just an opinion piece with cherry picked findings. Read some actual science next time. If that's the kind of "proof" you are going to supply...Bye.gif
  • glevinso
    glevinso Posts: 1,895 Member
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    That is a total cop out response. You present an extraordinary claim, and only back it up with irrelevant evidence. You might as well claim the sky is purple, and then "agree to disagree"
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    glevinso wrote: »
    That isn't evidence. That is an "article", and a pretty stupid one at that. It lacks actual facts and mistakes correlation for causation.

    Agree to disagree :)

    So you can't?
  • emmanuel4everjackson
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    Health.com is a reliable souce.
    glevinso wrote: »
    That isn't evidence. That is an "article", and a pretty stupid one at that. It lacks actual facts and mistakes correlation for causation.

    Agree to disagree :)

  • glevinso
    glevinso Posts: 1,895 Member
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    RGv2 wrote: »
    glevinso wrote: »
    That isn't evidence. That is an "article", and a pretty stupid one at that. It lacks actual facts and mistakes correlation for causation.

    Agree to disagree :)

    So you can't?

    That's how I interpret it...
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
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    It absolutely can be. The key is to read the science behind the articles and don't take the author's word for it.
    Health.com is a reliable souce.
    glevinso wrote: »
    That isn't evidence. That is an "article", and a pretty stupid one at that. It lacks actual facts and mistakes correlation for causation.

    Agree to disagree :)

  • flatlndr
    flatlndr Posts: 713 Member
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    Diet Sodas have Aspartame ...and research says that this puts small holes in your brain. Doesn't sound too appetizing anymore.

    So, if I drink diet soda and put holes in my brain, will that prevent me from turning into a Zombie when I die?
  • glevinso
    glevinso Posts: 1,895 Member
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    Health.com is a reliable souce.
    glevinso wrote: »
    That isn't evidence. That is an "article", and a pretty stupid one at that. It lacks actual facts and mistakes correlation for causation.

    Agree to disagree :)


    Quick-browse through the "articles" on that site leads me to believe it is nothing more than supermarket checkout line reading for people with little else to do. I do not consider it a reliable source for facts.
  • emmanuel4everjackson
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    I agree to disagree. Enjoy your diet coke & I will enjoy my water!
    glevinso wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    glevinso wrote: »
    That isn't evidence. That is an "article", and a pretty stupid one at that. It lacks actual facts and mistakes correlation for causation.

    Agree to disagree :)

    So you can't?

    That's how I interpret it...

  • glevinso
    glevinso Posts: 1,895 Member
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    I don't actually drink the stuff. I just like science, and science says there is nothing wrong with it (well actually science says it has no statistical evidence that it is harmful).
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    I agree to disagree. Enjoy your diet coke & I will enjoy my water!
    glevinso wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    glevinso wrote: »
    That isn't evidence. That is an "article", and a pretty stupid one at that. It lacks actual facts and mistakes correlation for causation.

    Agree to disagree :)

    So you can't?

    That's how I interpret it...

    So you made an outragous claim, can't back it up, and follow it up with "agree to disagree"?

    I love MFP.

  • emmanuel4everjackson
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    glevinso wrote: »
    I don't actually drink the stuff. I just like science, and science says there is nothing wrong with it (well actually science says it has no statistical evidence that it is harmful).

    okay :)
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
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  • emmanuel4everjackson
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    RGv2 wrote: »
    I agree to disagree. Enjoy your diet coke & I will enjoy my water!
    glevinso wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    glevinso wrote: »
    That isn't evidence. That is an "article", and a pretty stupid one at that. It lacks actual facts and mistakes correlation for causation.

    Agree to disagree :)

    So you can't?

    That's how I interpret it...

    So you made an outragous claim, can't back it up, and follow it up with "agree to disagree"?

    I love MFP.

    MFP loves you too :)
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
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    RGv2 wrote: »
    I agree to disagree. Enjoy your diet coke & I will enjoy my water!
    glevinso wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    glevinso wrote: »
    That isn't evidence. That is an "article", and a pretty stupid one at that. It lacks actual facts and mistakes correlation for causation.

    Agree to disagree :)

    So you can't?

    That's how I interpret it...

    So you made an outragous claim, can't back it up, and follow it up with "agree to disagree"?

    I love MFP.

    Some people would rather remain ignorant than to actually read and learn.

  • emmanuel4everjackson
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    Hornsby wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    I agree to disagree. Enjoy your diet coke & I will enjoy my water!
    glevinso wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    glevinso wrote: »
    That isn't evidence. That is an "article", and a pretty stupid one at that. It lacks actual facts and mistakes correlation for causation.

    Agree to disagree :)

    So you can't?

    That's how I interpret it...

    So you made an outragous claim, can't back it up, and follow it up with "agree to disagree"?

    I love MFP.

    Some people would rather remain ignorant than to actually read and learn.


    I agree with you. Some people would rather remain ignorant.
  • glevinso
    glevinso Posts: 1,895 Member
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    Thinking diet soda is what makes people fat is just another way to shift blame to something other than the fact that eating more calories than necessary is what causes it.

    It is a desperate grabbing at straws in an attempt to find an excuse when in reality one has to look at the person in the mirror.