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So... is anyone arguing that the Lipton ad is a good ad? Or that selling toy meth crystals is a good idea?
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DiabolicalColossus wrote: »No one here is "angry" except you, sisbro.
If I had children, I'd keep them away from the likes of you.
Not because of imagined socialism, but because you're clearly unhinged and seeing conspiracies where none exist.
Did I mention the word conspiracy? Nope. I don't see anything except really crappy ads, unhappy consumers, and a lot of fat kids.0 -
You should re-write the letter and apologize to the company...the muppets are hardly geared towards anyone who wasn't born in the 70's or 80's lol I don't think any kids these days care about miss piggy or kermit. That commercial is geared towards adults who have guest over or parties/gatherings LMAO we would be the only ones who really recognize them either from the muppet show or when kermie was on sesame street for a stint.0
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You said some rubbish about me thinking you're into socialism.
Hence, conspiracy.0 -
T V has been around for a long time now. Generations have been raised with it. I am 63. My father was a "techie" long before the term was invented and I honestly do not remember ever not having a television. We grew up being bombarded by cigarette commercials constantly. Advertising pays a lot of the bills for broadcast tv. If you don't like or agree with an ad, explain that to your child, turn off the tv, watch PBS, or get rid of the tv altogether. In today's world, a tea commercial seems to be the least of a parents problems with everything that is out there now.0
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What's wrong with tea?
Lipton is tea?
I think it's fair to discuss what kinds of ads kids are exposed to. For one thing, how many ADULTS are even aware of what foods/drinks are healthy? Sure, we all know veggies are good for you but many people are unaware of just how bad BAD food is. Let's face it, pinning it all on personal responsibility is a little short-sighted. As a society we need to push for better role models and examples of positive, healthy behavior.
Personally, we don't watch television in my house.
I want to hear more about these "bad" foods.
Hmm, let me think. I've seen people put Mountain Dew in baby bottles. I've seen people feed McDonald's burgers to their toddlers. I knew a family when I was a kid where every drink was Pepsi and the kids all had caps on every tooth.
When my son was little, he was having troubles with his belly. We had to go to the doctor ALL THE TIME to fix his foods until we found what worked. One day, I was talking to the doctor about his weight and how people thought he was skinny. Here is what the doctor said:
"People only think he's skinny because they are comparing him to the average kid these days, which is overweight. I see kids come into my practice, and they are morbidly obese and have RICKETS. No kidding, we thought we eliminated rickets when we fortified milk, but these kids drink soda and eat Cheetos all day every day. They are obese and malnourished."
I think we are exceptionally dumb as a society when it comes to nutrition. That 'nebulous" idea of society, well, we are a part of it and if you really don't care about how the world works then don't bother. But why get all weird when other people want to change things for the better? Personally, I never wrote to Lipton. But I help run a community garden and have personally taught a lot of local kids how to make their own healthy food. Do what you can.
There you go with some context. Mountain Dew isn't bad, but giving it to an infant isn't necessary (although it is far from deterimental). My kids had McDonalds as toddlers and they still ate the broccoli and chicken I made for dinner tonight without a complaint. Eating "bad foods" doesn't doom a child for life.
It really sucks for the dumb people in society, but that's where personal responsibility comes in. Hell, I'd even say if we could get the weight loss industry to stop milking people of money we could actually provide better education on nutrition as a whole. Maybe even Dr. Oz will stop promoting garbage and tell people the grand secret to fat loss is eating appropriately for their goals and getting active.
Sadly it seems like people only see two ends of the spectrum when it comes to food. You are either super healthy and avoid "bad foods" or you are obese and don't know anything about nutrition. These topics seem to bring up one extreme or the other. Can't be like me or any of the other people who manage to balance eating appropriately for our goals with enjoying treats in life.0 -
Growing up I was only allowed one hour of TV on week days (hw, chores had to be done first). My parents had a rule that you could not eat h TV if there was no adult home. When babysat, my parents would not let us watch any since they believed in family friendly shows.
Yes they we concerned about commercials. The solution was any time comercials came on, we muted the TV and has a short conversation with parents, siblings, or friends if they were over.0 -
DiabolicalColossus wrote: »I'm responsible for myself and no one else.
You're responsible for yourself and your children.
That's where it ends.
That is so sad that you don't care about anyone.
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Don't mistake my refusal to take responsibility for things that don't concern me as not caring.
I have a great many people that I care for deeply.
You, the OP and that other lazy apologist don't fall into that category.
I'm sure you won't have any problem continuing to live in perfect sanctimony.
In the end, I'm not the one who'll drive people away with self righteous dreck.0 -
Yikes. If you're not angry now, I'd really hate to see it when you are.DiabolicalColossus wrote: »No one here is "angry" except you, sisbro.
If I had children, I'd keep them away from the likes of you.
Not because of imagined socialism, but because you're clearly unhinged and seeing conspiracies where none exist.
Are you saying you've never taken issue with something? Nothing has ever gotten you annoyed to the point you want to write a strongly worded email about it? Does it make someone a conspiracy theorist because they choose to use their right of freedom of speech to express their displeasure in a peaceful way?
Just because someone has a different viewpoint from you does not make them unhinged. I'm failing to understand your hostility.
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You mean me I presume? Well now you've hurt my feelings. You mean we can't be friends?DiabolicalColossus wrote: »
You, the OP and that other lazy apologist don't fall into that category.
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Breakfast cereal and Koolaid commercials must make your head explode.0
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mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »Breakfast cereal and Koolaid commercials must make your head explode.
Imagine if they marketed sugary cereal to kids, too!. . . oh, wait.0 -
Did you forget how to read?
I already said I don't waste time on writing to corporations.
I simply don't bother and act using my wallet.
Do try to keep up.
You know, you keep attempting to police my tone and it's really sad.
You keep saying I'm "angry" or "hostile", and I keep telling you I'm not.
Maybe you need a puppet show, or smaller words.
Believe me, if I was to get hostile...you'd know it.
But since you're really not that important, and more of a momentary amusement, I won't do that.
I don't really feel anything towards or about you, save for small amounts of derision and mild amusement.
The fact that you mentioned the First Amendment in your silly nonsense just cements the fact that you're inferior.
That said, I don't consider you anything: not an enemy, not a friend, not an equal.
I consider you to be nothing and no one, aside from words on a screen.
I'm largely indifferent to your existence outside of the time I wasted here.
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I got lost forever when someone said Mountain Dew given to infants isn't detrimental. I think that, all by itself, proves the thread.0
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I'm sorry I've offended you. Truly. I always attempt to speak to people with respect and my only intent was to engage in a healthy debate. That got lost here somewhere along the way. Humble apologies.DiabolicalColossus wrote: »Did you forget how to read?
I already said I don't waste time on writing to corporations.
I simply don't bother and act using my wallet.
Do try to keep up.
You know, you keep attempting to police my tone and it's really sad.
You keep saying I'm "angry" or "hostile", and I keep telling you I'm not.
Maybe you need a puppet show, or smaller words.
Believe me, if I was to get hostile...you'd know it.
But since you're really not that important, and more of a momentary amusement, I won't do that.
I don't really feel anything towards or about you, save for small amounts of derision and mild amusement.
The fact that you mentioned the First Amendment in your silly nonsense just cements the fact that you're inferior.
That said, I don't consider you anything: not an enemy, not a friend, not an equal.
I consider you to be nothing and no one, aside from words on a screen.
I'm largely indifferent to your existence outside of the time I wasted here.
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I got lost forever when someone said Mountain Dew given to infants isn't detrimental. I think that, all by itself, proves the thread.
You have proof giving a small amount to an infant will kill them?
I also said many other very important things, but you didn't bother reading them or commenting on them. You took away one small point I made and it is 100% accurate.0 -
DiabolicalColossus wrote: »Did you forget how to read?
I already said I don't waste time on writing to corporations.
I simply don't bother and act using my wallet.
Do try to keep up.
You know, you keep attempting to police my tone and it's really sad.
You keep saying I'm "angry" or "hostile", and I keep telling you I'm not.
Maybe you need a puppet show, or smaller words.
Believe me, if I was to get hostile...you'd know it.
But since you're really not that important, and more of a momentary amusement, I won't do that.
I don't really feel anything towards or about you, save for small amounts of derision and mild amusement.
The fact that you mentioned the First Amendment in your silly nonsense just cements the fact that you're inferior.
That said, I don't consider you anything: not an enemy, not a friend, not an equal.
I consider you to be nothing and no one, aside from words on a screen.
I'm largely indifferent to your existence outside of the time I wasted here.
Quick, somebody google the word "pedantic."0
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