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The caffeine and sugar that is added to manufactured drinks is terrible for children and adults. My son is 6 and has asked me for tea, I drink mine plain with no sugar, but he cannot because the caffeine isn't good for children. There have been studies that show findings of caffeine hindering brain growth. I say, if in doubt, why even risk it?0
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Children in cultures that drink a lot of tea (regular tea, not stuff like Lipton) seem to do just fine in terms of brain growth.0
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What's wrong with tea?
Lipton is tea?
I think it's fair to discuss what kinds of ads kids are exposed to. For one thing, how many ADULTS are even aware of what foods/drinks are healthy? Sure, we all know veggies are good for you but many people are unaware of just how bad BAD food is. Let's face it, pinning it all on personal responsibility is a little short-sighted. As a society we need to push for better role models and examples of positive, healthy behavior.
Personally, we don't watch television in my house.0 -
rholland1125 wrote: »The caffeine and sugar that is added to manufactured drinks is terrible for children and adults. My son is 6 and has asked me for tea, I drink mine plain with no sugar, but he cannot because the caffeine isn't good for children. There have been studies that show findings of caffeine hindering brain growth. I say, if in doubt, why even risk it?
There simply isn't THAT much caffeine in most teas like that.
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Pinning it all on this ever nebulous "we as a society" is exceedingly short sighted.
I'm an adult.
I don't need "role models", because I'm the only one responsible for my choices.
You or other adults may feel that my actions somehow have something to do with you or your children, but you'd just be looking for a scapegoat.
Children need role models, and the first ones they should have are their parents.
Other adults shouldn't factor in.
If your standards are the only ones that are important in your household, you have zero to say about what other adults do.
It's your job to live up to your own standards, because your children are watching.
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What's wrong with tea?
Lipton is tea?
I think it's fair to discuss what kinds of ads kids are exposed to. For one thing, how many ADULTS are even aware of what foods/drinks are healthy? Sure, we all know veggies are good for you but many people are unaware of just how bad BAD food is. Let's face it, pinning it all on personal responsibility is a little short-sighted. As a society we need to push for better role models and examples of positive, healthy behavior.
Personally, we don't watch television in my house.
I want to hear more about these "bad" foods.0 -
What's wrong with tea?
Lipton is tea?
I think it's fair to discuss what kinds of ads kids are exposed to. For one thing, how many ADULTS are even aware of what foods/drinks are healthy? Sure, we all know veggies are good for you but many people are unaware of just how bad BAD food is. Let's face it, pinning it all on personal responsibility is a little short-sighted. As a society we need to push for better role models and examples of positive, healthy behavior.
Personally, we don't watch television in my house.
I want to hear more about these "bad" foods.
Hmm, let me think. I've seen people put Mountain Dew in baby bottles. I've seen people feed McDonald's burgers to their toddlers. I knew a family when I was a kid where every drink was Pepsi and the kids all had caps on every tooth.
When my son was little, he was having troubles with his belly. We had to go to the doctor ALL THE TIME to fix his foods until we found what worked. One day, I was talking to the doctor about his weight and how people thought he was skinny. Here is what the doctor said:
"People only think he's skinny because they are comparing him to the average kid these days, which is overweight. I see kids come into my practice, and they are morbidly obese and have RICKETS. No kidding, we thought we eliminated rickets when we fortified milk, but these kids drink soda and eat Cheetos all day every day. They are obese and malnourished."
I think we are exceptionally dumb as a society when it comes to nutrition. That 'nebulous" idea of society, well, we are a part of it and if you really don't care about how the world works then don't bother. But why get all weird when other people want to change things for the better? Personally, I never wrote to Lipton. But I help run a community garden and have personally taught a lot of local kids how to make their own healthy food. Do what you can.-2 -
Having just seen the ad, I agree completely with OP. I think that particular ad is irresponsible. Children love the Muppets and seeing them spit out water and call it tasteless is just plain wrong.
I have seen a couple of Lipton's other ads with the Muppets and they are gorgeous. I love the Muppets.
And I love tea.
All the other issues - caffeine, not Lipton's responsibility, who's watching the children, etc etc are irrelevant. The future of our children's health is everyone's responsibility. For the first time in history, our children's lifespan is shorter than ours.
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Yeah, other adults shouldn't matter. But they do. Your kid isn't in a bubble. You give your kids the tools they need to safely navigate through this world, but 1. other kids don't always have knowledgeable parents and 2. if parents were the only influence on kids, programs like "abstinence only" would actually work. Just saying.0
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I participate in society frequently, and am well aware of how the world works.
I just don't take it upon myself to start projecting my inadequacies onto other people's food choices.
Do I agree with people giving small children soda and feeding them fast food?
Nope.
But it's not my place to get involved in people's lives unless they ask me to.
I'm responsible for myself and no one else.
You're responsible for yourself and your children.
That's where it ends.
People are less likely to listen to the squawking of overly concerned parents because chances are, like you, they're quite confident in what they're doing with their kids.
See why it's generally a waste of time?
I'm not interested in the crusades of bored, unfulfilled parents with no hobbies of their own.
I exert my power as a consumer with my wallet.
Braying about "waking up" and other such unnecessary inflammatory nonsense only serves to make the one doing the braying feel superior.
You have fun with that.
I don't waste time on petitions, letter writing campaigns or anything like it.
I choose to live my own life on my own terms and not attempt to "convert" others to my ways of thinking.
What you do is your business.
But remember, when you put it out there, you're opening yourself up to dissenting opinions that might upset your obvious delicate sensitivities.
The only thing here that's "weird" is your insistence that everyone believe as you do.
Perhaps you need to learn how the world actually works, and not how you want it to.
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Your children's health has ZERO to do with me.
I patently refuse to accept your inability to control your kids as somehow being MY responsibility.
You had them, now you deal with them.
People like you are the reason why children continue to grow up weak and ineffectual.
You teach them that things are other people's fault, that there's always a scapegoat, that other people need to bend to suit them.
You don't teach them critical thought, you teach them how to blame.0 -
That's a nice perspective. However, in 30 years we are going to have a whole lot of cost associated with the choices people make. So that kind of makes you responsible for other people's kids. Even if you're strictly Libertarian, you would still have to deal with a very badly-functioning society where nearly everyone has serious health problems. Because what is the other conclusion? Everything does indeed point to the fact that kids born now will die before their parents do. That would be disastrous for the economy, to name one thing lots of people love to quibble about.0
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So some lady decides to write Lipton about an ad that teaches kids the wrong thing. So what?0
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Add tea to water it is no longer water right?
Some water tastes bad and some kids/people dont like it. Adding some flavoring to it hardly seems like the downfall of society.
Going back to sleep. Wake me when there is something to actually worry about.
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DiabolicalColossus wrote: »Your children's health has ZERO to do with me.
I patently refuse to accept your inability to control your kids as somehow being MY responsibility.
You had them, now you deal with them.
People like you are the reason why children continue to grow up weak and ineffectual.
You teach them that things are other people's fault, that there's always a scapegoat, that other people need to bend to suit them.
You don't teach them critical thought, you teach them how to blame.
Are you okay? This is about education. That's it, that's all. Why would you be upset because some people think the Lipton ad is inappropriate? It is inappropriate and chances are those same people are educating their children about advertisements. But so what? So they want to effect change and ensure that other kids learn about healthy choices, too. Your anger is bizarre. I feel like you would be the kind of parent who would get upset with me for showing his kid how to grow a tomato in the garden, because, you know.... SOCIALISM.0 -
That fails to be my problem.
I made the opposite choice of you and many others, so none of this really matters to me.
I don't care if my tax dollars go to care for people with ineffective parents.
That sort of thing has been happening for decades before I came about, and it isn't likely to change in the far future, either.
I gave up the notion of most people having responsibility for their actions, whether it be corporations or self righteous people raising children.
Why waste the time?
Your worries are not mine because I took the other path.
The future will tell us who chose wisely and who didn't.
Until then, your children are your affair entirely, and your attempts to insist otherwise fall on uninterested eyes.
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No one here is "angry" except you, sisbro.
If I had children, I'd keep them away from the likes of you.
Not because of imagined socialism, but because you're clearly unhinged and seeing conspiracies where none exist.-1 -
Did you write the Jim Henson company? They're the ones that pimped the Muppets out for this evil... are you one of the parents flipping out over the "Breaking Bad" collectibles sold at Toys R US as well?0
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