Why don't we tax the rich?

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  • SwannySez
    SwannySez Posts: 5,860 Member
    It's all about brackets. Like March Madness. But in April.
  • Commander_Keen
    Commander_Keen Posts: 1,179 Member
    He's a troll.
    If you tax the rich, what stops the rich from leaving the town, city, state, country?
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  • Go_Mizzou99
    Go_Mizzou99 Posts: 2,628 Member
    edited November 2014
    OK - I'll bite - here's a valid argument.

    My wife teaches high school (11th grade) Personal Finance. This topic comes up over and over.

    So, to illustrate the problem to her classes she suggests that they do an exercise on the next test to model "taxing the rich"...the exercise is pretty simple: the people that get high grades have to give up some of their grade to help the people out that get the low grades...level the playing field, so to speak.

    What happens is the traditionally "high grade" students don't study, because, what's the point, they have to give about 1/2 of their grade away anyway. The traditional "low grade" students study even less than before, if that is possible, because they are expecting a hand-out. Apathy rules. The average test score for each class drops to a dismal level.

    Same thing will happen in the real world if taxes are raised that high.

  • Tbaby1514
    Tbaby1514 Posts: 216 Member
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    He's a troll.
    If you tax the rich, what stops the rich from leaving the town, city, state, country?

    Can't present a valid argument so you resort to name calling?

    This times 10
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    Leave politics out of the forums. It's against the rules.

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  • collegegirl713
    collegegirl713 Posts: 189 Member
    OK - I'll bite - here's a valid argument.

    My wife teaches high school (11th grade) Personal Finance. This topic comes up over and over.

    So, to illustrate the problem to her classes she suggests that they do an exercise on the next test to model "taxing the rich"...the exercise is pretty simple: the people that get high grades have to give up some of their grade to help the people out that get the low grades...level the playing field, so to speak.

    What happens is the traditionally "high grade" students don't study, because, what's the point, they have to give about 1/2 of their grade away anyway. The traditional "low grade" students study even less than before, if that is possible, because they are expecting a hand-out. Apathy rules. The average test score for each class drops to a dismal level.

    Same thing will happen in the real world if taxes are raised that high.

    Great example! I have seen the same thing done with a bar tab.
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  • collegegirl713
    collegegirl713 Posts: 189 Member
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    Leave politics out of the forums. It's against the rules.

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    This is economics not politics
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    So, if we tax the rich at "90%", what is the incentive to become wealthy? Why would someone want to work hard to be taxed so much? In my opinion, a percentage of a large number is still bigger than the same percentage of a smaller one. Usually, millionaire work hard for their money and I, for one, think they deserve it. It shouldn't be a penalty!

    I didn't know there were so many right wing extremists on mfp

    So, you call people right wing extremists and then you try to say this isn't politics. Brilliant!
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    Tbaby1514 wrote: »
    I paid in almost 14% of my salary last year. I don't even wanna hear it.



    That is seriously low... I'm impressed.
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  • Tigg_er
    Tigg_er Posts: 22,001 Member
    chuckyp wrote: »
    The rich already pay far more than their fair share, and this is coming from a guy who most certainly is not rich. If you really want to level the playing field, everyone should pay the same tax rate instead of penalizing success and subsidizing failure and laziness.

    Yep !

  • stuart160
    stuart160 Posts: 1,628 Member
    OK - I'll bite - here's a valid argument.

    My wife teaches high school (11th grade) Personal Finance. This topic comes up over and over.

    So, to illustrate the problem to her classes she suggests that they do an exercise on the next test to model "taxing the rich"...the exercise is pretty simple: the people that get high grades have to give up some of their grade to help the people out that get the low grades...level the playing field, so to speak.

    What happens is the traditionally "high grade" students don't study, because, what's the point, they have to give about 1/2 of their grade away anyway. The traditional "low grade" students study even less than before, if that is possible, because they are expecting a hand-out. Apathy rules. The average test score for each class drops to a dismal level.

    Same thing will happen in the real world if taxes are raised that high.

    Same thing already happens everyday in a country where over 47% of the people are on some sort of govt handout and are allowed to continue to vote for the politicians that promise to take even more from those that work and give it to those that don't or to those that made a PERSONAL decision at some point in their not to do what it takes to get ahead in life.
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    edited November 2014
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    Leave politics out of the forums. It's against the rules.

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    This is economics not politics

    Lol, you are such a troll. Politics affects government expenditure, legislation, creation of laws, tax cuts, etc., which ultimately have a very strong impact on the economy.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    What if I don't want 90% of what the government has to offer? Can I opt out?? There's gotta be a form for that.
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    edited November 2014
    odusgolp wrote: »
    What if I don't want 90% of what the government has to offer? Can I opt out?? There's gotta be a form for that.

    Seriously!!!

    Can't I be a libertarian in paying my taxes and only pay for the ones I want?
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  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    Leave politics out of the forums. It's against the rules.

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    This is economics not politics

    Lol, you are such a troll. Politics affects government expenditure, legislation, creation of laws, tax cuts, etc., which ultimately has a very strong impact on the economy.

    It also effects our food labels and guidelines. Is that topic also off limits?

    I gave you a warning to keep politics out of the forums. Now I'll let the mods deal with you. :)

  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    edited November 2014
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    k8blujay2 wrote: »
    odusgolp wrote: »
    What if I don't want 90% of what the government has to offer? Can I opt out?? There's gotta be a form for that.

    Seriously!!!

    Can't I be a libertarian in paying my taxes and only pay for the ones I want?

    Sure if you want the poor to die. I can't believe you people, so selfish

    It's called giving to chareties...

    IF the government wasn't taking nearly a third of my paycheck I would be able to give more the groups that actually help people... you know, like the food banks or the missions...
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    k8blujay2 wrote: »
    odusgolp wrote: »
    What if I don't want 90% of what the government has to offer? Can I opt out?? There's gotta be a form for that.

    Seriously!!!

    Can't I be a libertarian in paying my taxes and only pay for the ones I want?

    Sure if you want the poor to die. I can't believe you people, so selfish

    Damn straight I am. It's like you don't even KNOW me!

    Survival of the fittest, bro.
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  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    k8blujay2 wrote: »
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    k8blujay2 wrote: »
    odusgolp wrote: »
    What if I don't want 90% of what the government has to offer? Can I opt out?? There's gotta be a form for that.

    Seriously!!!

    Can't I be a libertarian in paying my taxes and only pay for the ones I want?

    Sure if you want the poor to die. I can't believe you people, so selfish

    It's called giving to chareties...

    We should get rid of tax exempt status, it's abused. Look at the NFL

    What does a person running around in spandex need 4 million dollars a year for anyway?

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  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    k8blujay2 wrote: »
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    k8blujay2 wrote: »
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    k8blujay2 wrote: »
    odusgolp wrote: »
    What if I don't want 90% of what the government has to offer? Can I opt out?? There's gotta be a form for that.

    Seriously!!!

    Can't I be a libertarian in paying my taxes and only pay for the ones I want?

    Sure if you want the poor to die. I can't believe you people, so selfish

    It's called giving to chareties...

    We should get rid of tax exempt status, it's abused. Look at the NFL

    What does a person running around in spandex need 4 million dollars a year for anyway?

    Hey hey hey... let's not start knockin men in football pants.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    I just would like to mention that if you're unhappy with the US tax rates, come to Italy where our taxes are at about 60-70%.
  • djeffreys10
    djeffreys10 Posts: 2,312 Member
    edited November 2014
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  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    k8blujay2 wrote: »
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    k8blujay2 wrote: »
    odusgolp wrote: »
    What if I don't want 90% of what the government has to offer? Can I opt out?? There's gotta be a form for that.

    Seriously!!!

    Can't I be a libertarian in paying my taxes and only pay for the ones I want?

    Sure if you want the poor to die. I can't believe you people, so selfish

    It's called giving to chareties...

    IF the government wasn't taking nearly a third of my paycheck I would be able to give more the groups that actually help people... you know, like the food banks or the missions...

    Charity is more toxic then most think.

    Truth is, mission trips benefit the volunteers more then they benefit the recipients.

    Mission trips are short term and provide instant gratification rather then community development which is what these communities actually need. Community development is long term and not many people are willing to or able to volunteer their time to reshape a community's standard of living or quality of life.


  • Go_Mizzou99
    Go_Mizzou99 Posts: 2,628 Member
    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    He's a troll.
    If you tax the rich, what stops the rich from leaving the town, city, state, country?

    Can't present a valid argument so you resort to name calling?

    Hmmm...I presented a valid argument right after __drmerc__ posted this message (above).

    No response __drmerc__? Nothing? I win B)
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