People on here need to stick to feedback the user asks for?!?!
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mommyrunning wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »Sevendust912 wrote: »BENNETINFINITY: your completely right in saying "I think people who want specific advice about their personal course of action are better served finding like minded people in the groups".
That is what we are doing when we post here - trying to find like minded people to help us.
mommyrunning - I love your comment. Not everyone here knows how to design meals, cook, work out, etc. They need help from people (supposedly all of you) who have already learned it, gone through it, know more. They can learn though with your help - not sarcastic comments.
Your supposed to act as teachers, peers, coaches, positive influences and yes - maybe even share some knowledge so we don't have to take forever to learn it the hard way.
Just curious, how does a grown adult "not know how" to exercise?
I'd be curious to see the answer to this question.
I don't think she actually meant "doesn't know HOW". It's more a case of if you grew up with little to no physical activity, didn't play outside a lot, didn't play sports, have no active role models, etc. the "where to begin" can seem overwhelming due to the multitude of exercise programs advertised. I'm sure true beginners wonder, "do I get on the treadmill? what do I do with all those machines at the gym? can I just go for a walk?", etc. That's how I took it anyway.
But it's so simple. You start MOVING. The answer "move more" is not intended to be inflammatory. It's the truth! Try something.
Start walking. Walking becomes boring, then start running. Don't like running? Do cycling. Cardio not your thing? Try a strength program. Not sure which program is best for you? Google. Don't like strength training? TRY SOMETHING ELSE.
I think these were responses to my comment so I will answer. I could have chosen my words better or explained it more when I said some people don't know how to exercise. I didn't mean that people don't know how to walk or run for example. I meant that some people don't know something as simple as a 20 minute walk can help them lose weight or that they don't have to run 5 miles a day and lift hundreds of lbs to get fit. Some people don't have any clue how many calories exercise burns. Maybe something like, "some people don't understand exercise well or how to use it for weight loss" would have been better.
I get that, but how is an answer like "Doesn't matter what you do, just do anything," i.e. move more, an inappropriate response?
I really don't understand the whole "I don't know where to start" when it comes to exercise. Whenever I personally see a thread like that, I always ask the OP what their goals are and what tools they have at hand, and then I try to respond appropriately.
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levitateme wrote: »LEVITATEME's post above is a good example of what I mean. Not the positive feedback most people need.
It's great it takes you 45 seconds to make a shake - I don't have that time so I am looking for something I can grab from fridge and walk out door. But I didn't ask that anyway so don't comment unless you know of a good pre-made shake suggestion.
Eat less - move more - really?!?! Yes it's true but it's about the least helpful thing I have ever heard. What people on here need is something in depth - links to a website you use, a book that really turned things around, some tales from your journey that might inspire them. Eat less and move more doesn't help lay out any specific plans which is what people here need.
And "you don't need a grocery list". Do you realize people who go the store without a grocery list tend to overeat and buy fattening items they don't need. Your always better shopping with a list. Yes - many of us DO need a grocery list and don't know how to make a healthy one ourselves.
POSITIVE FEEDBACK IS WHAT WE NEED! Not just you telling us it's all so simple and acting like why can't we all just figure this out.
Why is it my job to tell you how to make a grocery list? and why is it rude of me to say you should be able to figure that out yourself? This is a website that tells you the calorie content of every single food on earth. Pick out foods you like that fit the calories provided to you and go to the store and buy them.
From now on, my canned answer to every thread will be "you are doing everything exactly right. Good job."
And then people will be like "but wait you didn't answer any of my questions" and I will be like "You're so smart and strong."
I just wonder, why do you get off so much on making people feel like crap? If we can stop all of the weak pretending for a moment - you're not trying to help, you're not trying to offer advice or wisdom or share any of your own experiences for the betterment of mankind. You're just deliberately and constantly taking craps on people who are asking for help. Whether or not they come across as annoying, lazy or stupid, I really want to know why is it so very very very important to you to let them know that you find them annoying, lazy and stupid?
I guess this is probably the Question at the Heart of the Internet: Why can't anyone just STFU if they don't have anything to add to a thread?
Ask yourself the same question. What compels you to attack me as someone who defecates on people? Where did I say the words "stupid, "lazy" or "annoying?"
Please, let me know.
If someone says "i need you to give me a grocery list I have no idea what to eat!" and I say "You can literally eat any food you like, MFP sets a calorie goal for you, just make what you like fit." How is that calling them stupid, lazy or annoying? How is it mean? How am I "getting off" on it (which, by the way, totally sexual and inappropriate to say to me)
Please, please, please, help me. Explain it to me.
Oh wait no, sorry, they are being extremely overly sensitive.
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This site is full of cry-babies
As I say to my children: toughen up buttercup
The people I see shedding 90% of the tears are the ones engaging in near-constant whining drama about being perceived as "mean". Either be a d-bag and accept that people are gonna think you're a d-bag, or don't be one and then people won't think you're one. Pretty easy, IMO.
The responses on those threads were still taken as being mean even by people genuinely trying to help (I was one on the exercise one).
The fact of the matter is, this OP specifically is opening threads and playing a victim.
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Can we have a group hug now?
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levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »LEVITATEME's post above is a good example of what I mean. Not the positive feedback most people need.
It's great it takes you 45 seconds to make a shake - I don't have that time so I am looking for something I can grab from fridge and walk out door. But I didn't ask that anyway so don't comment unless you know of a good pre-made shake suggestion.
Eat less - move more - really?!?! Yes it's true but it's about the least helpful thing I have ever heard. What people on here need is something in depth - links to a website you use, a book that really turned things around, some tales from your journey that might inspire them. Eat less and move more doesn't help lay out any specific plans which is what people here need.
And "you don't need a grocery list". Do you realize people who go the store without a grocery list tend to overeat and buy fattening items they don't need. Your always better shopping with a list. Yes - many of us DO need a grocery list and don't know how to make a healthy one ourselves.
POSITIVE FEEDBACK IS WHAT WE NEED! Not just you telling us it's all so simple and acting like why can't we all just figure this out.
Why is it my job to tell you how to make a grocery list? and why is it rude of me to say you should be able to figure that out yourself? This is a website that tells you the calorie content of every single food on earth. Pick out foods you like that fit the calories provided to you and go to the store and buy them.
From now on, my canned answer to every thread will be "you are doing everything exactly right. Good job."
And then people will be like "but wait you didn't answer any of my questions" and I will be like "You're so smart and strong."
I just wonder, why do you get off so much on making people feel like crap? If we can stop all of the weak pretending for a moment - you're not trying to help, you're not trying to offer advice or wisdom or share any of your own experiences for the betterment of mankind. You're just deliberately and constantly taking craps on people who are asking for help. Whether or not they come across as annoying, lazy or stupid, I really want to know why is it so very very very important to you to let them know that you find them annoying, lazy and stupid?
I guess this is probably the Question at the Heart of the Internet: Why can't anyone just STFU if they don't have anything to add to a thread?
Ask yourself the same question. What compels you to attack me as someone who defecates on people? Where did I say the words "stupid, "lazy" or "annoying?"
Please, let me know.
If someone says "i need you to give me a grocery list I have no idea what to eat!" and I say "You can literally eat any food you like, MFP sets a calorie goal for you, just make what you like fit." How is that calling them stupid, lazy or annoying? How is it mean? How am I "getting off" on it (which, by the way, totally sexual and inappropriate to say to me)
Please, please, please, help me. Explain it to me.
Oh wait no, sorry, they are being extremely overly sensitive.
No, when they're asking that question they're saying they are stuck in a rut, having issues with tunnel-vision at the store, aren't sure how to break patterns or don't cook AND they do not know what to Google or where to find answers. If they really had no idea how to eat, they'd have died of starvation ages ago. You choose to interpret the post as "I'm too lazy to look up recipes and stuff and I can't count to that high number of calories MFP gave me" and you reply in kind. I refuse to believe that you don't know exactly what you're doing and how you're making people feel.
And speaking of "extremely overly sensitive"....get a grip. Unless that's also a 'sexual and inappropriate" thing to say? Thanks for the major lulz on that one!
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Words on a screen make people "feel like crap"?
Two pieces of advice:
Stop giving your power away.
Don't assign tone where there is none.0 -
Man, I love these threads. I guess I am getting off on it, but not on "abusing" people. I like the whiners of MFP, really.
Anyone remember Meeratalia? She used to get into it with me ALL THE TIME about how sugar was the devil and she "quit" sugar and compare sugar to nicotine. I would always tell her that a restrictive diet was not sustainable and she would do better if she learned moderation and she and others would tell me I was an abuser who didn't just let people live their life. She hasn't logged in for a month, her last logged day of food was a 5000 calorie binge.
Score one for the meanie, should have taken my advice I guess.-3 -
levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »LEVITATEME's post above is a good example of what I mean. Not the positive feedback most people need.
It's great it takes you 45 seconds to make a shake - I don't have that time so I am looking for something I can grab from fridge and walk out door. But I didn't ask that anyway so don't comment unless you know of a good pre-made shake suggestion.
Eat less - move more - really?!?! Yes it's true but it's about the least helpful thing I have ever heard. What people on here need is something in depth - links to a website you use, a book that really turned things around, some tales from your journey that might inspire them. Eat less and move more doesn't help lay out any specific plans which is what people here need.
And "you don't need a grocery list". Do you realize people who go the store without a grocery list tend to overeat and buy fattening items they don't need. Your always better shopping with a list. Yes - many of us DO need a grocery list and don't know how to make a healthy one ourselves.
POSITIVE FEEDBACK IS WHAT WE NEED! Not just you telling us it's all so simple and acting like why can't we all just figure this out.
Why is it my job to tell you how to make a grocery list? and why is it rude of me to say you should be able to figure that out yourself? This is a website that tells you the calorie content of every single food on earth. Pick out foods you like that fit the calories provided to you and go to the store and buy them.
From now on, my canned answer to every thread will be "you are doing everything exactly right. Good job."
And then people will be like "but wait you didn't answer any of my questions" and I will be like "You're so smart and strong."
I just wonder, why do you get off so much on making people feel like crap? If we can stop all of the weak pretending for a moment - you're not trying to help, you're not trying to offer advice or wisdom or share any of your own experiences for the betterment of mankind. You're just deliberately and constantly taking craps on people who are asking for help. Whether or not they come across as annoying, lazy or stupid, I really want to know why is it so very very very important to you to let them know that you find them annoying, lazy and stupid?
I guess this is probably the Question at the Heart of the Internet: Why can't anyone just STFU if they don't have anything to add to a thread?
Ask yourself the same question. What compels you to attack me as someone who defecates on people? Where did I say the words "stupid, "lazy" or "annoying?"
Please, let me know.
If someone says "i need you to give me a grocery list I have no idea what to eat!" and I say "You can literally eat any food you like, MFP sets a calorie goal for you, just make what you like fit." How is that calling them stupid, lazy or annoying? How is it mean? How am I "getting off" on it (which, by the way, totally sexual and inappropriate to say to me)
Please, please, please, help me. Explain it to me.
Oh wait no, sorry, they are being extremely overly sensitive.
No, when they're asking that question they're saying they are stuck in a rut, having issues with tunnel-vision at the store, aren't sure how to break patterns or don't cook AND they do not know what to Google or where to find answers. If they really had no idea how to eat, they'd have died of starvation ages ago. You choose to interpret the post as "I'm too lazy to look up recipes and stuff and I can't count to that high number of calories MFP gave me" and you reply in kind. I refuse to believe that you don't know exactly what you're doing and how you're making people feel.
And speaking of "extremely overly sensitive"....get a grip. Unless that's also a 'sexual and inappropriate" thing to say? Thanks for the major lulz on that one!
Yeah I'm being sarcastic, because you and a lot of other people take all this crap WAYYYYY too seriously. Go outside, fly a kite.
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DiabolicalColossus wrote: »Words on a screen make people "feel like crap"?
Two pieces of advice:
Stop giving your power away.
Don't assign tone where there is none.
Now this is an interesting point of view.
People who are "affected" by forum posting are actively giving away their agency. Hmmmm. I can't argue that one bit.0 -
levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »LEVITATEME's post above is a good example of what I mean. Not the positive feedback most people need.
It's great it takes you 45 seconds to make a shake - I don't have that time so I am looking for something I can grab from fridge and walk out door. But I didn't ask that anyway so don't comment unless you know of a good pre-made shake suggestion.
Eat less - move more - really?!?! Yes it's true but it's about the least helpful thing I have ever heard. What people on here need is something in depth - links to a website you use, a book that really turned things around, some tales from your journey that might inspire them. Eat less and move more doesn't help lay out any specific plans which is what people here need.
And "you don't need a grocery list". Do you realize people who go the store without a grocery list tend to overeat and buy fattening items they don't need. Your always better shopping with a list. Yes - many of us DO need a grocery list and don't know how to make a healthy one ourselves.
POSITIVE FEEDBACK IS WHAT WE NEED! Not just you telling us it's all so simple and acting like why can't we all just figure this out.
Why is it my job to tell you how to make a grocery list? and why is it rude of me to say you should be able to figure that out yourself? This is a website that tells you the calorie content of every single food on earth. Pick out foods you like that fit the calories provided to you and go to the store and buy them.
From now on, my canned answer to every thread will be "you are doing everything exactly right. Good job."
And then people will be like "but wait you didn't answer any of my questions" and I will be like "You're so smart and strong."
I just wonder, why do you get off so much on making people feel like crap? If we can stop all of the weak pretending for a moment - you're not trying to help, you're not trying to offer advice or wisdom or share any of your own experiences for the betterment of mankind. You're just deliberately and constantly taking craps on people who are asking for help. Whether or not they come across as annoying, lazy or stupid, I really want to know why is it so very very very important to you to let them know that you find them annoying, lazy and stupid?
I guess this is probably the Question at the Heart of the Internet: Why can't anyone just STFU if they don't have anything to add to a thread?
Ask yourself the same question. What compels you to attack me as someone who defecates on people? Where did I say the words "stupid, "lazy" or "annoying?"
Please, let me know.
If someone says "i need you to give me a grocery list I have no idea what to eat!" and I say "You can literally eat any food you like, MFP sets a calorie goal for you, just make what you like fit." How is that calling them stupid, lazy or annoying? How is it mean? How am I "getting off" on it (which, by the way, totally sexual and inappropriate to say to me)
Please, please, please, help me. Explain it to me.
Oh wait no, sorry, they are being extremely overly sensitive.
No, when they're asking that question they're saying they are stuck in a rut, having issues with tunnel-vision at the store, aren't sure how to break patterns or don't cook AND they do not know what to Google or where to find answers. If they really had no idea how to eat, they'd have died of starvation ages ago. You choose to interpret the post as "I'm too lazy to look up recipes and stuff and I can't count to that high number of calories MFP gave me" and you reply in kind. I refuse to believe that you don't know exactly what you're doing and how you're making people feel.
And speaking of "extremely overly sensitive"....get a grip. Unless that's also a 'sexual and inappropriate" thing to say? Thanks for the major lulz on that one!
Yeah I'm being sarcastic, because you and a lot of other people take all this crap WAYYYYY too seriously. Go outside, fly a kite.
I'm really not the one freaking out. I'm asking what I feel is a legitimate question after reading quite a few of your...hot...responses. I just want to understand.
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levitateme wrote: »Man, I love these threads. I guess I am getting off on it, but not on "abusing" people. I like the whiners of MFP, really.
Anyone remember Meeratalia? She used to get into it with me ALL THE TIME about how sugar was the devil and she "quit" sugar and compare sugar to nicotine. I would always tell her that a restrictive diet was not sustainable and she would do better if she learned moderation and she and others would tell me I was an abuser who didn't just let people live their life. She hasn't logged in for a month, her last logged day of food was a 5000 calorie binge.
Score one for the meanie, should have taken my advice I guess.
Perhaps, or just perhaps this way of eating works for her. I don't know of whom you speak, but restrictive diets do work for some, even if they do binge. Eating low calories 6 days a week with a 5000 calorie binge day can still average out to a deficit for the week.
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rainbowbow wrote: »This site is full of cry-babies
As I say to my children: toughen up buttercup
The people I see shedding 90% of the tears are the ones engaging in near-constant whining drama about being perceived as "mean". Either be a d-bag and accept that people are gonna think you're a d-bag, or don't be one and then people won't think you're one. Pretty easy, IMO.
The responses on those threads were still taken as being mean even by people genuinely trying to help (I was one on the exercise one).
The fact of the matter is, this OP specifically is opening threads and playing a victim.
Ah, link pls? I'm thinking of the recent 'how not to lose fat' and 'tough love' threads...remind me of the exercise one?
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levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »LEVITATEME's post above is a good example of what I mean. Not the positive feedback most people need.
It's great it takes you 45 seconds to make a shake - I don't have that time so I am looking for something I can grab from fridge and walk out door. But I didn't ask that anyway so don't comment unless you know of a good pre-made shake suggestion.
Eat less - move more - really?!?! Yes it's true but it's about the least helpful thing I have ever heard. What people on here need is something in depth - links to a website you use, a book that really turned things around, some tales from your journey that might inspire them. Eat less and move more doesn't help lay out any specific plans which is what people here need.
And "you don't need a grocery list". Do you realize people who go the store without a grocery list tend to overeat and buy fattening items they don't need. Your always better shopping with a list. Yes - many of us DO need a grocery list and don't know how to make a healthy one ourselves.
POSITIVE FEEDBACK IS WHAT WE NEED! Not just you telling us it's all so simple and acting like why can't we all just figure this out.
Why is it my job to tell you how to make a grocery list? and why is it rude of me to say you should be able to figure that out yourself? This is a website that tells you the calorie content of every single food on earth. Pick out foods you like that fit the calories provided to you and go to the store and buy them.
From now on, my canned answer to every thread will be "you are doing everything exactly right. Good job."
And then people will be like "but wait you didn't answer any of my questions" and I will be like "You're so smart and strong."
I just wonder, why do you get off so much on making people feel like crap? If we can stop all of the weak pretending for a moment - you're not trying to help, you're not trying to offer advice or wisdom or share any of your own experiences for the betterment of mankind. You're just deliberately and constantly taking craps on people who are asking for help. Whether or not they come across as annoying, lazy or stupid, I really want to know why is it so very very very important to you to let them know that you find them annoying, lazy and stupid?
I guess this is probably the Question at the Heart of the Internet: Why can't anyone just STFU if they don't have anything to add to a thread?
Ask yourself the same question. What compels you to attack me as someone who defecates on people? Where did I say the words "stupid, "lazy" or "annoying?"
Please, let me know.
If someone says "i need you to give me a grocery list I have no idea what to eat!" and I say "You can literally eat any food you like, MFP sets a calorie goal for you, just make what you like fit." How is that calling them stupid, lazy or annoying? How is it mean? How am I "getting off" on it (which, by the way, totally sexual and inappropriate to say to me)
Please, please, please, help me. Explain it to me.
Oh wait no, sorry, they are being extremely overly sensitive.
No, when they're asking that question they're saying they are stuck in a rut, having issues with tunnel-vision at the store, aren't sure how to break patterns or don't cook AND they do not know what to Google or where to find answers. If they really had no idea how to eat, they'd have died of starvation ages ago. You choose to interpret the post as "I'm too lazy to look up recipes and stuff and I can't count to that high number of calories MFP gave me" and you reply in kind. I refuse to believe that you don't know exactly what you're doing and how you're making people feel.
And speaking of "extremely overly sensitive"....get a grip. Unless that's also a 'sexual and inappropriate" thing to say? Thanks for the major lulz on that one!
Yeah I'm being sarcastic, because you and a lot of other people take all this crap WAYYYYY too seriously. Go outside, fly a kite.
I'm really not the one freaking out. I'm asking what I feel is a legitimate question after reading quite a few of your...hot...responses. I just want to understand.
She's from Queens and now lives in NJ. What's to understand lol
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »levitateme wrote: »Man, I love these threads. I guess I am getting off on it, but not on "abusing" people. I like the whiners of MFP, really.
Anyone remember Meeratalia? She used to get into it with me ALL THE TIME about how sugar was the devil and she "quit" sugar and compare sugar to nicotine. I would always tell her that a restrictive diet was not sustainable and she would do better if she learned moderation and she and others would tell me I was an abuser who didn't just let people live their life. She hasn't logged in for a month, her last logged day of food was a 5000 calorie binge.
Score one for the meanie, should have taken my advice I guess.
Perhaps, or just perhaps this way of eating works for her. I don't know of whom you speak, but restrictive diets do work for some, even if they do binge. Eating low calories 6 days a week with a 5000 calorie binge day can still average out to a deficit for the week.
There is more than one way to get to goal.
So...you're saying a VLCD with a 5000 calorie binge day is a healthy lifestyle? You're seriously just arguing for the sake of arguing now.0 -
levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »LEVITATEME's post above is a good example of what I mean. Not the positive feedback most people need.
It's great it takes you 45 seconds to make a shake - I don't have that time so I am looking for something I can grab from fridge and walk out door. But I didn't ask that anyway so don't comment unless you know of a good pre-made shake suggestion.
Eat less - move more - really?!?! Yes it's true but it's about the least helpful thing I have ever heard. What people on here need is something in depth - links to a website you use, a book that really turned things around, some tales from your journey that might inspire them. Eat less and move more doesn't help lay out any specific plans which is what people here need.
And "you don't need a grocery list". Do you realize people who go the store without a grocery list tend to overeat and buy fattening items they don't need. Your always better shopping with a list. Yes - many of us DO need a grocery list and don't know how to make a healthy one ourselves.
POSITIVE FEEDBACK IS WHAT WE NEED! Not just you telling us it's all so simple and acting like why can't we all just figure this out.
Why is it my job to tell you how to make a grocery list? and why is it rude of me to say you should be able to figure that out yourself? This is a website that tells you the calorie content of every single food on earth. Pick out foods you like that fit the calories provided to you and go to the store and buy them.
From now on, my canned answer to every thread will be "you are doing everything exactly right. Good job."
And then people will be like "but wait you didn't answer any of my questions" and I will be like "You're so smart and strong."
I just wonder, why do you get off so much on making people feel like crap? If we can stop all of the weak pretending for a moment - you're not trying to help, you're not trying to offer advice or wisdom or share any of your own experiences for the betterment of mankind. You're just deliberately and constantly taking craps on people who are asking for help. Whether or not they come across as annoying, lazy or stupid, I really want to know why is it so very very very important to you to let them know that you find them annoying, lazy and stupid?
I guess this is probably the Question at the Heart of the Internet: Why can't anyone just STFU if they don't have anything to add to a thread?
Ask yourself the same question. What compels you to attack me as someone who defecates on people? Where did I say the words "stupid, "lazy" or "annoying?"
Please, let me know.
If someone says "i need you to give me a grocery list I have no idea what to eat!" and I say "You can literally eat any food you like, MFP sets a calorie goal for you, just make what you like fit." How is that calling them stupid, lazy or annoying? How is it mean? How am I "getting off" on it (which, by the way, totally sexual and inappropriate to say to me)
Please, please, please, help me. Explain it to me.
Oh wait no, sorry, they are being extremely overly sensitive.
No, when they're asking that question they're saying they are stuck in a rut, having issues with tunnel-vision at the store, aren't sure how to break patterns or don't cook AND they do not know what to Google or where to find answers. If they really had no idea how to eat, they'd have died of starvation ages ago. You choose to interpret the post as "I'm too lazy to look up recipes and stuff and I can't count to that high number of calories MFP gave me" and you reply in kind. I refuse to believe that you don't know exactly what you're doing and how you're making people feel.
And speaking of "extremely overly sensitive"....get a grip. Unless that's also a 'sexual and inappropriate" thing to say? Thanks for the major lulz on that one!
Yeah I'm being sarcastic, because you and a lot of other people take all this crap WAYYYYY too seriously. Go outside, fly a kite.
I'm really not the one freaking out. I'm asking what I feel is a legitimate question after reading quite a few of your...hot...responses. I just want to understand.
She's from Queens and now lives in NJ. What's to understand lol
Okay, now you're actually abusing me.
I CAN'T TAKE MUCH MORE OF THIS.
THE WORDS
THE WORDS ON THE SCREEN
THEY BURN
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levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »LEVITATEME's post above is a good example of what I mean. Not the positive feedback most people need.
It's great it takes you 45 seconds to make a shake - I don't have that time so I am looking for something I can grab from fridge and walk out door. But I didn't ask that anyway so don't comment unless you know of a good pre-made shake suggestion.
Eat less - move more - really?!?! Yes it's true but it's about the least helpful thing I have ever heard. What people on here need is something in depth - links to a website you use, a book that really turned things around, some tales from your journey that might inspire them. Eat less and move more doesn't help lay out any specific plans which is what people here need.
And "you don't need a grocery list". Do you realize people who go the store without a grocery list tend to overeat and buy fattening items they don't need. Your always better shopping with a list. Yes - many of us DO need a grocery list and don't know how to make a healthy one ourselves.
POSITIVE FEEDBACK IS WHAT WE NEED! Not just you telling us it's all so simple and acting like why can't we all just figure this out.
Why is it my job to tell you how to make a grocery list? and why is it rude of me to say you should be able to figure that out yourself? This is a website that tells you the calorie content of every single food on earth. Pick out foods you like that fit the calories provided to you and go to the store and buy them.
From now on, my canned answer to every thread will be "you are doing everything exactly right. Good job."
And then people will be like "but wait you didn't answer any of my questions" and I will be like "You're so smart and strong."
I just wonder, why do you get off so much on making people feel like crap? If we can stop all of the weak pretending for a moment - you're not trying to help, you're not trying to offer advice or wisdom or share any of your own experiences for the betterment of mankind. You're just deliberately and constantly taking craps on people who are asking for help. Whether or not they come across as annoying, lazy or stupid, I really want to know why is it so very very very important to you to let them know that you find them annoying, lazy and stupid?
I guess this is probably the Question at the Heart of the Internet: Why can't anyone just STFU if they don't have anything to add to a thread?
Ask yourself the same question. What compels you to attack me as someone who defecates on people? Where did I say the words "stupid, "lazy" or "annoying?"
Please, let me know.
If someone says "i need you to give me a grocery list I have no idea what to eat!" and I say "You can literally eat any food you like, MFP sets a calorie goal for you, just make what you like fit." How is that calling them stupid, lazy or annoying? How is it mean? How am I "getting off" on it (which, by the way, totally sexual and inappropriate to say to me)
Please, please, please, help me. Explain it to me.
Oh wait no, sorry, they are being extremely overly sensitive.
No, when they're asking that question they're saying they are stuck in a rut, having issues with tunnel-vision at the store, aren't sure how to break patterns or don't cook AND they do not know what to Google or where to find answers. If they really had no idea how to eat, they'd have died of starvation ages ago. You choose to interpret the post as "I'm too lazy to look up recipes and stuff and I can't count to that high number of calories MFP gave me" and you reply in kind. I refuse to believe that you don't know exactly what you're doing and how you're making people feel.
And speaking of "extremely overly sensitive"....get a grip. Unless that's also a 'sexual and inappropriate" thing to say? Thanks for the major lulz on that one!
Yeah I'm being sarcastic, because you and a lot of other people take all this crap WAYYYYY too seriously. Go outside, fly a kite.
I'm really not the one freaking out. I'm asking what I feel is a legitimate question after reading quite a few of your...hot...responses. I just want to understand.
She's from Queens and now lives in NJ. What's to understand lol
Well, my dad is from Queens so maybe we can make up.
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rainbowbow wrote: »This site is full of cry-babies
As I say to my children: toughen up buttercup
The people I see shedding 90% of the tears are the ones engaging in near-constant whining drama about being perceived as "mean". Either be a d-bag and accept that people are gonna think you're a d-bag, or don't be one and then people won't think you're one. Pretty easy, IMO.
The responses on those threads were still taken as being mean even by people genuinely trying to help (I was one on the exercise one).
The fact of the matter is, this OP specifically is opening threads and playing a victim.
Ah, link pls? I'm thinking of the recent 'how not to lose fat' and 'tough love' threads...remind me of the exercise one?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/search?adv=&search=Thcguy123&title=&author=&cat=all&tags=&discussion_d=1&comment_c=1&within=1+day&date=
Here are the threads in question.0 -
You're okay in my book friend. I am not a mean person. :flowerforyou:levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »levitateme wrote: »LEVITATEME's post above is a good example of what I mean. Not the positive feedback most people need.
It's great it takes you 45 seconds to make a shake - I don't have that time so I am looking for something I can grab from fridge and walk out door. But I didn't ask that anyway so don't comment unless you know of a good pre-made shake suggestion.
Eat less - move more - really?!?! Yes it's true but it's about the least helpful thing I have ever heard. What people on here need is something in depth - links to a website you use, a book that really turned things around, some tales from your journey that might inspire them. Eat less and move more doesn't help lay out any specific plans which is what people here need.
And "you don't need a grocery list". Do you realize people who go the store without a grocery list tend to overeat and buy fattening items they don't need. Your always better shopping with a list. Yes - many of us DO need a grocery list and don't know how to make a healthy one ourselves.
POSITIVE FEEDBACK IS WHAT WE NEED! Not just you telling us it's all so simple and acting like why can't we all just figure this out.
Why is it my job to tell you how to make a grocery list? and why is it rude of me to say you should be able to figure that out yourself? This is a website that tells you the calorie content of every single food on earth. Pick out foods you like that fit the calories provided to you and go to the store and buy them.
From now on, my canned answer to every thread will be "you are doing everything exactly right. Good job."
And then people will be like "but wait you didn't answer any of my questions" and I will be like "You're so smart and strong."
I just wonder, why do you get off so much on making people feel like crap? If we can stop all of the weak pretending for a moment - you're not trying to help, you're not trying to offer advice or wisdom or share any of your own experiences for the betterment of mankind. You're just deliberately and constantly taking craps on people who are asking for help. Whether or not they come across as annoying, lazy or stupid, I really want to know why is it so very very very important to you to let them know that you find them annoying, lazy and stupid?
I guess this is probably the Question at the Heart of the Internet: Why can't anyone just STFU if they don't have anything to add to a thread?
Ask yourself the same question. What compels you to attack me as someone who defecates on people? Where did I say the words "stupid, "lazy" or "annoying?"
Please, let me know.
If someone says "i need you to give me a grocery list I have no idea what to eat!" and I say "You can literally eat any food you like, MFP sets a calorie goal for you, just make what you like fit." How is that calling them stupid, lazy or annoying? How is it mean? How am I "getting off" on it (which, by the way, totally sexual and inappropriate to say to me)
Please, please, please, help me. Explain it to me.
Oh wait no, sorry, they are being extremely overly sensitive.
No, when they're asking that question they're saying they are stuck in a rut, having issues with tunnel-vision at the store, aren't sure how to break patterns or don't cook AND they do not know what to Google or where to find answers. If they really had no idea how to eat, they'd have died of starvation ages ago. You choose to interpret the post as "I'm too lazy to look up recipes and stuff and I can't count to that high number of calories MFP gave me" and you reply in kind. I refuse to believe that you don't know exactly what you're doing and how you're making people feel.
And speaking of "extremely overly sensitive"....get a grip. Unless that's also a 'sexual and inappropriate" thing to say? Thanks for the major lulz on that one!
Yeah I'm being sarcastic, because you and a lot of other people take all this crap WAYYYYY too seriously. Go outside, fly a kite.
I'm really not the one freaking out. I'm asking what I feel is a legitimate question after reading quite a few of your...hot...responses. I just want to understand.
She's from Queens and now lives in NJ. What's to understand lol
Well, my dad is from Queens so maybe we can make up.
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Told ya'll. but no one listens to ol me.hollydubs85 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »levitateme wrote: »Man, I love these threads. I guess I am getting off on it, but not on "abusing" people. I like the whiners of MFP, really.
Anyone remember Meeratalia? She used to get into it with me ALL THE TIME about how sugar was the devil and she "quit" sugar and compare sugar to nicotine. I would always tell her that a restrictive diet was not sustainable and she would do better if she learned moderation and she and others would tell me I was an abuser who didn't just let people live their life. She hasn't logged in for a month, her last logged day of food was a 5000 calorie binge.
Score one for the meanie, should have taken my advice I guess.
Perhaps, or just perhaps this way of eating works for her. I don't know of whom you speak, but restrictive diets do work for some, even if they do binge. Eating low calories 6 days a week with a 5000 calorie binge day can still average out to a deficit for the week.
There is more than one way to get to goal.
So...you're saying a VLCD with a 5000 calorie binge day is a healthy lifestyle? You're seriously just arguing for the sake of arguing now.
Gotta learn for yourselves eh? Go on, learn!
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rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »This site is full of cry-babies
As I say to my children: toughen up buttercup
The people I see shedding 90% of the tears are the ones engaging in near-constant whining drama about being perceived as "mean". Either be a d-bag and accept that people are gonna think you're a d-bag, or don't be one and then people won't think you're one. Pretty easy, IMO.
The responses on those threads were still taken as being mean even by people genuinely trying to help (I was one on the exercise one).
The fact of the matter is, this OP specifically is opening threads and playing a victim.
Ah, link pls? I'm thinking of the recent 'how not to lose fat' and 'tough love' threads...remind me of the exercise one?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/search?adv=&search=Thcguy123&title=&author=&cat=all&tags=&discussion_d=1&comment_c=1&within=1+day&date=
Here are the threads in question.
Also, I don't think those other ones relate to op at all. I mean to be fair, it looks like people were trying to be helpful and many gave helpful responses.
One of the negative ones?
"I know you are looking for a book to tell you what to do... Have you considered doing your own research and making a list of foods and recipes that you like? Also, what about joining a gym and highering a personal trainer? The two of you could then discuss your goals and the trainer can work up a personal plan just for you.
Edit: You could also schedule time with a nutritionist and get food ideas and recipes from them as well."0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »This site is full of cry-babies
As I say to my children: toughen up buttercup
The people I see shedding 90% of the tears are the ones engaging in near-constant whining drama about being perceived as "mean". Either be a d-bag and accept that people are gonna think you're a d-bag, or don't be one and then people won't think you're one. Pretty easy, IMO.
The responses on those threads were still taken as being mean even by people genuinely trying to help (I was one on the exercise one).
The fact of the matter is, this OP specifically is opening threads and playing a victim.
Ah, link pls? I'm thinking of the recent 'how not to lose fat' and 'tough love' threads...remind me of the exercise one?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/search?adv=&search=Thcguy123&title=&author=&cat=all&tags=&discussion_d=1&comment_c=1&within=1+day&date=
Here are the threads in question.
Also, I don't think those other ones relate to op at all. I mean to be fair, it looks like people were trying to be helpful and many gave helpful responses.
One of the negative ones?
"I know you are looking for a book to tell you what to do... Have you considered doing your own research and making a list of foods and recipes that you like? Also, what about joining a gym and highering a personal trainer? The two of you could then discuss your goals and the trainer can work up a personal plan just for you.
Edit: You could also schedule time with a nutritionist and get food ideas and recipes from them as well."
Right, that's why people like me come into these threads and get called mean. Because no one was even mean to the OP. So I come in, being like "why you frontin'" and then a storm of pants-wetters are like "no, really you are SO mean."
And then I get fired because I haven't done any work for the past 2 hours.
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quote="rainbowbow;30370942"]rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »This site is full of cry-babies
As I say to my children: toughen up buttercup
The people I see shedding 90% of the tears are the ones engaging in near-constant whining drama about being perceived as "mean". Either be a d-bag and accept that people are gonna think you're a d-bag, or don't be one and then people won't think you're one. Pretty easy, IMO.
The responses on those threads were still taken as being mean even by people genuinely trying to help (I was one on the exercise one).
The fact of the matter is, this OP specifically is opening threads and playing a victim.
Ah, link pls? I'm thinking of the recent 'how not to lose fat' and 'tough love' threads...remind me of the exercise one?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/search?adv=&search=Thcguy123&title=&author=&cat=all&tags=&discussion_d=1&comment_c=1&within=1+day&date=
Here are the threads in question.
Also, I don't think those other ones relate to op at all. I mean to be fair, it looks like people were trying to be helpful and many gave helpful responses.
One of the negative ones?
"I know you are looking for a book to tell you what to do... Have you considered doing your own research and making a list of foods and recipes that you like? Also, what about joining a gym and highering a personal trainer? The two of you could then discuss your goals and the trainer can work up a personal plan just for you.
Edit: You could also schedule time with a nutritionist and get food ideas and recipes from them as well."[/quote]
There's nothing "negative" about that response, save for what YOU and others like you project onto it.
You're fighting windmills.
What's "negative" about telling someone to take the bull by the horns and do their own research about how to incorporate THEIR food preferences into a way of eating they can live with, exercise more (join a gym) and seek guidance from a professional?
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DiabolicalColossus wrote: »quote="rainbowbow;30370942"]rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »This site is full of cry-babies
As I say to my children: toughen up buttercup
The people I see shedding 90% of the tears are the ones engaging in near-constant whining drama about being perceived as "mean". Either be a d-bag and accept that people are gonna think you're a d-bag, or don't be one and then people won't think you're one. Pretty easy, IMO.
The responses on those threads were still taken as being mean even by people genuinely trying to help (I was one on the exercise one).
The fact of the matter is, this OP specifically is opening threads and playing a victim.
Ah, link pls? I'm thinking of the recent 'how not to lose fat' and 'tough love' threads...remind me of the exercise one?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/search?adv=&search=Thcguy123&title=&author=&cat=all&tags=&discussion_d=1&comment_c=1&within=1+day&date=
Here are the threads in question.
Also, I don't think those other ones relate to op at all. I mean to be fair, it looks like people were trying to be helpful and many gave helpful responses.
One of the negative ones?
"I know you are looking for a book to tell you what to do... Have you considered doing your own research and making a list of foods and recipes that you like? Also, what about joining a gym and highering a personal trainer? The two of you could then discuss your goals and the trainer can work up a personal plan just for you.
Edit: You could also schedule time with a nutritionist and get food ideas and recipes from them as well."There's nothing "negative" about that response, save for what YOU and others like you project onto it.
You're fighting windmills.
What's "negative" about telling someone to take the bull by the horns and do their own research about how to incorporate THEIR food preferences into a way of eating they can live with, exercise more (join a gym) and seek guidance from a professional?
Uh, what.
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It's not that people are giving bad information -- lots of time, the OP is asking the wrong questions. If I come in here and ask "how do I lose 5 pounds next week?", the following are all correct answers:
You can't
You cant, but here are a bunch of things you can try to lose some weight next week
Cut off a limb
I shouldn't get butthurt because people don't give me the answer I wanted, because they're actually giving me accurate information.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »This site is full of cry-babies
As I say to my children: toughen up buttercup
The people I see shedding 90% of the tears are the ones engaging in near-constant whining drama about being perceived as "mean". Either be a d-bag and accept that people are gonna think you're a d-bag, or don't be one and then people won't think you're one. Pretty easy, IMO.
The responses on those threads were still taken as being mean even by people genuinely trying to help (I was one on the exercise one).
The fact of the matter is, this OP specifically is opening threads and playing a victim.
Ah, link pls? I'm thinking of the recent 'how not to lose fat' and 'tough love' threads...remind me of the exercise one?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/search?adv=&search=Thcguy123&title=&author=&cat=all&tags=&discussion_d=1&comment_c=1&within=1+day&date=
Here are the threads in question.
Also, I don't think those other ones relate to op at all. I mean to be fair, it looks like people were trying to be helpful and many gave helpful responses.
One of the negative ones?
"I know you are looking for a book to tell you what to do... Have you considered doing your own research and making a list of foods and recipes that you like? Also, what about joining a gym and highering a personal trainer? The two of you could then discuss your goals and the trainer can work up a personal plan just for you.
Edit: You could also schedule time with a nutritionist and get food ideas and recipes from them as well."
You think that response is negative? I just don't even know what to say at this point.
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Did you not say that the one response was negative?
If not, I'm wrong and retract my response.0 -
DiabolicalColossus wrote: »Did you not say that the one response was negative?
If not, I'm wrong and retract my response.
I think you're missing some sarcasm.0 -
So it would seem.
Damn lack of a sarcasm font.
::shakes fist::0
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