An obese nutritionist: would you be her patient?
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First, I wouldn't go to a nutritionist at all, but not taking on account what I just said: I would ask her about why she's obese... I mean, without sounding rude, if it's due to a medical issue or just for lack of self-control, then I would see if she inspires me enough trust to actually pay her to be my nutritionist.0
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »peachyfuzzle wrote: »"Those who can't do teach."
I've always had an issue with that quote because it pretty much sums up the problem in the school system.
A great example is taking business classes and being taught by someone who has never in their life run an actual business.
Well, the alternative is to have a business teacher who did have a business but was so unsuccesful at running it that ended up having to teach the subject. :huh:
I would much rather be taught by someone who did it and knows what they're talking about regardless of whether or not they ran it into the ground. There could be a myriad of reasons why businesses fail and said teacher who had a failed business might be able to let the students know what NOT to do. All business owners I know that have owned a business that may have failed is able to realize their error, pass on wisdom and not do what they did again. That IMO is better than someone who has never tried, never failed and has no clue.0 -
I would. I don't think people need to practice what they preach. If the information they give is sound, that is what matters.
I think the male OB/GYN is an excellent example.
Yes they should, to a certain extent.
Male ob what? What should he practice? Being a female?
Not surprised this was your response to the question.
There are male OB's out there. I had one and I left him because I didn't feel confident that he had my interests regarding my health at heart. I have no doubt my female one does. AND since it's a she, she can relate to -- and answer -- the questions I have.
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You cannot possible determine based on her gender alone that she has your best interests at heart.
It's reasonable to assume that she can relate more easily to you- but assuming that she has your best interests at heart is merely because you share the same plumbing is... naive at best.0 -
I'd let a female train me in the gym even though I could lift more than her. If she knows what she is talking about then it's fine0
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goddessofawesome wrote: »That IMO is better than someone who has never tried, never failed and has no clue.
How do you know the prof didn't fail due to dumb-assness and didn't learn a thing?
You're making an awful lot of assumptions...0 -
GuitarJerry wrote: »Most sport coaches are overweight and out of shape, but do they know how to coach and win games? Yes, they do.
Many surgeons are overweight and out of shape also, so are many healthcare workers. Does that mean that don't know how to do their jobs? No, it doesn't.
Yeah but professional coaches rely on a team of athletic trainers to get their athletes in gear.
A surgeon has specific skill sets, including scientific training, medical training and a steady hand. That doesn't mean they know anything about weight loss and nutrition. You are paying them for their ability to operate.
A better comparison is, would you go to a mental health professional who has mental health challenges.
well that's not fair- every person I know who works in psychology is effed up- that's one of the reasons they are in that field LOL.
EVERY FREAKIN' ONE.0 -
This thread amuses.
Next thing, we'll see someone you should never go to a dentist with bad orthodontia work.0 -
There are a lot of drug consolers that were addicts before0
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GuitarJerry wrote: »Most sport coaches are overweight and out of shape, but do they know how to coach and win games? Yes, they do.
Many surgeons are overweight and out of shape also, so are many healthcare workers. Does that mean that don't know how to do their jobs? No, it doesn't.
Yeah but professional coaches rely on a team of athletic trainers to get their athletes in gear.
A surgeon has specific skill sets, including scientific training, medical training and a steady hand. That doesn't mean they know anything about weight loss and nutrition. You are paying them for their ability to operate.
A better comparison is, would you go to a mental health professional who has mental health challenges.
well that's not fair- every person I know who works in psychology is effed up- that's one of the reasons they are in that field LOL.
EVERY FREAKIN' ONE.
What is that saying it takes one to know one.
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goddessofawesome wrote: »That IMO is better than someone who has never tried, never failed and has no clue.
How do you know the prof didn't fail due to dumb-assness and didn't learn a thing?
You're making an awful lot of assumptions...
They still have a clue as to what running a business entails regardless.
Devils advocate (and assuming you don't own a business): what do you know about it and what can you teach me?0 -
Well, drugs need to be consoled sometimes. Imagine what it would be like to be the one bud left behind.JeffseekingV wrote: »There are a lot of drug consolers that were addicts before
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goddessofawesome wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »That IMO is better than someone who has never tried, never failed and has no clue.
How do you know the prof didn't fail due to dumb-assness and didn't learn a thing?
You're making an awful lot of assumptions...
They still have a clue as to what running a business entails regardless.
That's another assumption. And a big one at that.Devils advocate (and assuming you don't own a business): what do you know about it and what can you teach me?
A lot, and everything.
But not for free.
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A lot, and everything.
But not for free
Trust me. I control several businesses and my husband has his own business so yeah. I too know a bit about what it takes. You're answer tells me you do not.0 -
Do as I say, not as I do. Ah, the irony. Sometimes, after a long day of tending to everyone else's needs, you just want to go home and stress eat your heart out. Unfortunately, this happens allot in the health field and you see nurses, doctors, nutritionists, etc. balloon in size. I won't judge the nutritionist's knowledge on his/her looks. I'd follow them and see if it works. If it doesn't work, then I start to judge.0
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A lot of the most successful business people have failed 99% of the time and succeeded 1%.0
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I have not read all the replies...
I can see why someone wouldn't want to. I wouldn't blame someone if they wouldn't want to see an obese nutritionist. However, I can tell you that I am obese and know a heck of a lot about nutrition, weight loss, etc. My knowledge level is not the issue, it's my ability to execute and follow through. So I know what I'm talking about, though I'm sure many would disregard my opinion based on the fact that I am still obese.
ETA: I'm not saying I know as much as a nutritionist does, or anything. LOL. Just that despite my size, I do know how to lose weight. I just have a self control issue that I'm working through.0 -
JeffseekingV wrote: »A lot of the most successful business people have failed 99% of the time and succeeded 1%.
Which again, my point is that regardless of whether or not they failed they still know how to create a business and would still be more qualified to teach a course on it than someone who has never, ever, ever created any type of business in their life.
I learned from people who have failed and I learned from those who have succeeded. Who I did not learn from is someone who had no clue as to what to do.
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goddessofawesome wrote: »A lot, and everything.
But not for free
Trust me. I control several businesses and my husband has his own business so yeah. I too know a bit about what it takes. You're answer tells me you do not.
You're going to need a taller ladder...
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goddessofawesome wrote: »A lot, and everything.
But not for free
Trust me. I control several businesses and my husband has his own business so yeah. I too know a bit about what it takes. You're answer tells me you do not.
You're going to need a taller ladder...
Just stating a fact. If you know so much then I'm not sure why you wouldn't spread your knowledge out to others. The one thing entrepreneurs love to talk about is their business and how they failed or succeeded. No fee required.0 -
goddessofawesome wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »A lot, and everything.
But not for free
Trust me. I control several businesses and my husband has his own business so yeah. I too know a bit about what it takes. You're answer tells me you do not.
You're going to need a taller ladder...
Just stating a fact. If you know so much then I'm not sure why you wouldn't spread your knowledge out to others. The one thing entrepreneurs love to talk about is their business and how they failed or succeeded. No fee required.
Oh dear...0 -
michellemybelll wrote: »
ha! true.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »peachyfuzzle wrote: »"Those who can't do teach."
I've always had an issue with that quote because it pretty much sums up the problem in the school system.
A great example is taking business classes and being taught by someone who has never in their life run an actual business.
Well, the alternative is to have a business teacher who did have a business but was so unsuccesful at running it that ended up having to teach the subject. :huh:
Eh it's apples and oranges, IMO. I'm guessing the fat nutritionist isn't even applying what he/she knows.0 -
Why would a truly successful bgoddessofawesome wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »A lot, and everything.
But not for free
Trust me. I control several businesses and my husband has his own business so yeah. I too know a bit about what it takes. You're answer tells me you do not.
You're going to need a taller ladder...
Just stating a fact. If you know so much then I'm not sure why you wouldn't spread your knowledge out to others. The one thing entrepreneurs love to talk about is their business and how they failed or succeeded. No fee required.
Oh dear...
Are you saying all people that teach business have no idea what they are talking about? Because if to you, only a successful business person has the credentials to teach business, then there would be no business teachers. Unless they are so wealthy from it, they retired and teach as a hobby0 -
JeffseekingV wrote: »Why would a truly successful bgoddessofawesome wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »A lot, and everything.
But not for free
Trust me. I control several businesses and my husband has his own business so yeah. I too know a bit about what it takes. You're answer tells me you do not.
You're going to need a taller ladder...
Just stating a fact. If you know so much then I'm not sure why you wouldn't spread your knowledge out to others. The one thing entrepreneurs love to talk about is their business and how they failed or succeeded. No fee required.
Oh dear...
Are you saying all people that teach business have no idea what they are talking about?
I never said anything even remotely like that.
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OP here.
Wow. Lots of replies.
FWIW, I would see any nutritionist with good references regardless of her personal appearance.0 -
Why are you only addressing part of my quote? Are you agreeing with the rest of it?
Then clarify how someone that teaches business gains credibility in your view. Remember, anyone successful in business most likely is going to be paid a lot more than a teacher or professor.0 -
Yep. It's much easier to preach than to practice. Doesn't mean she/he doesn't know what they're talking about.0
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Yep. It's much easier to preach than to practice. Doesn't mean she/he doesn't know what they're talking about.
No, but looking as though you take your own advice lends a bit of credibility. Would you go to a dentist who tells you how important oral hygiene is, that you have to brush and floss when they themselves have no teeth?
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The title says it all: would you go to an obese nutritionist for weight-loss help?
This question came up in a group discussion -- there was disagreement. I said I'd post here and get some more opinions from the MFP board.
YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!! she might tell me what not to do and sometimes its very har to practice what you preach.
But im my own nutritionist and im fat. but myself and i are making it work0 -
JeffseekingV wrote: »Why are you only addressing part of my quote?
It's the only part that asked me a question.0
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