Discouraged by trace calories...
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I am a dietetics student, and in terms of satiety (staying full) I learned that the macros that are best are in the following order:
Protein (best at keeping you full)
Fat (second best at keeping you full)
Carbs (best for quick energy, not that great at keeping you full)
All are necessary for optimal health, and none of them cause or promote weight gain without a calorie surplus. So up those proteins and fats, and make sure you are getting enough fiber in your diet.0 -
0somuchbetter0 wrote: »Try cooking your food rather than buying pre-packaged foodstuffs - which isn't Food. You aren't feeding your body so it's thinking that it needs to store up the calories (empty ones) that you are giving to it in case it starves. You can't lose weight on that kind of diet.
Here's a week of meals that will put protein and healthy fats in your diet, but keep carbs down:
Monday
breakfast: omelette with veggies (cook a batch of broccoli and use it in your eggs); cooked in butter or coconut oil
lunch: grass fed yogurt with blueberries and slmonds
dinner: cheeseburger (no bun), veggies, salsa sauce
Tuesday
breakfast: bacon & eggs (two each)
lunch: leftover burger & veggies
dinner: salmon with butter & veggies
Wednesday
breakfast: eggs & veggies cooked in butter
lunch: shrimp salad with olive oil
dinner: grilled chicken with veggies
Thursday
breakfast: omelet with various veggies, cooked in butter
lunch: smoothie with coconut milk, berries, almonds, & protein powder
dinner: steak with veggies
Friday
breakfast: bacon & eggs
lunch: chicken salad with veggies
dinner: pork chops with veggies
Saturday
breakfast: omelette with veggies
lunch: grass fed yogurt with berries, coconut flakes, walnuts
dinner: meatballs with veggies
Sunday
breakfast: bacon & eggs
lunch: smoothie with coconut milk, heavy cream, chocolate protein powder, berries
dinner grilled chickens with raw spinach
Object is to get away from boxes and bags filled with non-food and FEED your body food. you will lose weight and feel oh so much better. your body will reward you by taking care of it.
lunch: chicken salad
Amusing: Warns against "packaged non-food"; has protein powder frequently.
Oh come on. Protein powder is fine and this proposed diet is 1000% more healthy that what the poor girl has been eating!
She's pointing out that the person is being a hypocrite. Protein powder is processed and packaged.
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Frozen veggies come in boxes or bags and that's all some people can afford.
Frozen veggies are fresher than fresh veggies (unless you are pulling the veg out of the ground yourself). They are frozen within hours of being picked, while fresh veg is picked, sits in a truck for a while, is transported for a day or several, hangs out on your grocer's shelf for an indeterminate amount of time before you get to it, then spends more time on your countertop or in your fridge before you eat it.
I point this out only because I was spending so much time washing and prepping fresh veg, and tossing out so much that I had paid for (leaves, stalks, etc.) Then I realized a bag and a microwave would save me hours and money, and I would get essentially the same nutrients (frozen undergoes a blanching process that does leach some of the nutrients, but not so much that the frozen version is rendered useless).
Instead of 1/2 hour every day prepping one kind of veg, I now spend 5 seconds and get all kinds of veg.
Yay frozen veg!0 -
If that's a recent picture on your profile (your second photo) - you don't need to lose any weight. You already appear too thin.
If I remember correctly, you posted in the summer about being obsessive with counting calories and food.
I'd forget the weight loss and focus on developing a healthy relationship with food, which is what you were recommended to do in the beginning.
I agree, the second photo indicates someone who is well underweight.
I also recall that her husband / partner was concerned about her ongoing weight loss.
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Kill the simple carbs (sugar), eat lean meats, veggies, nuts, and berries. If you workout, eat one banana before and after. You are eating too many simple carbs, raising your blood sugar and causing the food to be stored more quickly as fat - so this isn't going to work.0
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In your case it is what you are eating! I agree that there is a nutritional issue with what you are eating, but I used to eat like this when I lived alone. Its cheap and simple.
Carbs are bad if you eat more than around 150 mg a day. You need carbs depending on your weight and size but for most 150 mg is doable.
If something says it is calorie free it is. But I do believe that there are trace calories in anything, look for sugar alcohol, aspartame, artificial sweetners and assume the following:
-- These are to be processed in some way through the body.
-- Your body does something with it - either is burns it for fuel, stores or it recognizes it as a toxin and gets rid of it.
-- I was told everything has a calorie and if it does NOT do not put it in your body and call it energy or fuel, it is what is.
I sometimes will add an additional 50 to 100 calories to my daily nutrition if I know I ate something that says it calorie free but might contain trace calories so that I get my deficit right and include "possible extra calories".0 -
neversummer7 wrote: »thank you all for your input, I have made some swaps
tonight i will have some beans with lemon peppered chicken.
Good. THAT is what you should be eating for your meals.
At the very least, you need a serving of protein with each of your 3 main meals: breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Have milk with your Fiber One cereal. Enjoy a cup of greek yogurt with your bag of apples and grapes. Put tuna on your crackers. Eat a breast of chicken with your ranch salad. Throw some lean steak into your cheese tortilla.
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Oh yeah let me add, protein with help you lose weight. Need a lot of protein. I learned this hard way, especially when exercising an 1 hour a day.
My question is you work for 1 hour your exercise and only burn 220 to 330? I would die if I worked this hard and only burned this much. There is only calorie burn and no fat burning in your work out! Work smarter not harder. You could get a 220 calorie burn in a shorter work out unless your work out is by design to work this way!0 -
tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »
I agree, the second photo indicates someone who is well underweight.
I also recall that her husband / partner was concerned about her ongoing weight loss.
Yes, and sometime past also she was drinking way too much fluid and her electrolyte balance was off - can't remember if it was sodium or potassium.
Either way - eating disorder.
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DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »Frozen veggies come in boxes or bags and that's all some people can afford.
Frozen veggies are fresher than fresh veggies (unless you are pulling the veg out of the ground yourself). They are frozen within hours of being picked, while fresh veg is picked, sits in a truck for a while, is transported for a day or several, hangs out on your grocer's shelf for an indeterminate amount of time before you get to it, then spends more time on your countertop or in your fridge before you eat it.
I point this out only because I was spending so much time washing and prepping fresh veg, and tossing out so much that I had paid for (leaves, stalks, etc.) Then I realized a bag and a microwave would save me hours and money, and I would get essentially the same nutrients (frozen undergoes a blanching process that does leach some of the nutrients, but not so much that the frozen version is rendered useless).
Instead of 1/2 hour every day prepping one kind of veg, I now spend 5 seconds and get all kinds of veg.
Yay frozen veg!
Oh I know that. I've come around to frozen veggies. Except broccoli. Its too mushy.
In regards to stalks and leaves, freeze em for making broth with a chicken carcass in the crockpot0 -
My question is you work for 1 hour your exercise and only burn 220 to 330? I would die if I worked this hard and only burned this much. There is only calorie burn and no fat burning in your work out! Work smarter not harder. You could get a 220 calorie burn in a shorter work out unless your work out is by design to work this way!
Actually, that's a pretty moderate-to-intense workout burn for most women who are on the smaller side. I'm 5'1"/140, and if I work out for an hour and burn 300 calories, I consider that to be doing pretty good. MFP overestimates calorie burns by quite a bit, I've found, so it might tell me that the workout is worth 400-500, but if I were to eat back that much, I'd gain weight.0 -
I'm going home for Christmas and won't have a treadmill there so I will be on a 1200 calorie diet. Could someone possibly show me what I can eat throughout the day that would be equal to 1200 and filling?0
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neversummer7 wrote: »I'm going home for Christmas and won't have a treadmill there so I will be on a 1200 calorie diet. Could someone possibly show me what I can eat throughout the day that would be equal to 1200 and filling?
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
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Please look into finding some help. You can start with your doctor and get some referrals to therapists and dietitians. Sometimes you can find people who do both. It can take a lot of support to change eating habits if they are really ingrained in us.0
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neversummer7 wrote: »I'm going home for Christmas and won't have a treadmill there so I will be on a 1200 calorie diet. Could someone possibly show me what I can eat throughout the day that would be equal to 1200 and filling?
What??? Seriously????
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neversummer7 wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »I'm going home for Christmas and won't have a treadmill there so I will be on a 1200 calorie diet. Could someone possibly show me what I can eat throughout the day that would be equal to 1200 and filling?
What??? Seriously????
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You are 22 years old. We need to tell you what to eat?
Honest question, can't your husband help you with that since you knoe, you do live together? Or does he also eat Cocoa Puffs for dinner?
Calling her out won't help her fix that, though. Regardless of whether or not she should know better at her age.
MrM does have a good point however, what does your husband eat?
Anyhow, I agree with the comments saying that you should talk to you doctor and seek a dietician or follow some nutrition classes. If you need a quick fix, however, you can add me as a friend and have a peek at my diary, I have been on a 1200 calorie diet for a week now, and maybe you can get some ideas from there. (Ignore the first week, I had just had my teeth pulled) You may have to navigate through all the stuff that are not in English though.0 -
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GingerbreadCandy wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »I'm going home for Christmas and won't have a treadmill there so I will be on a 1200 calorie diet. Could someone possibly show me what I can eat throughout the day that would be equal to 1200 and filling?
What??? Seriously????
? What
You are 22 years old. We need to tell you what to eat?
Honest question, can't your husband help you with that since you knoe, you do live together? Or does he also eat Cocoa Puffs for dinner?
Calling her out won't help her fix that, though. Regardless of whether or not she should know better at her age.
MrM does have a good point however, what does your husband eat?
Anyhow, I agree with the comments saying that you should talk to you doctor and seek a dietician or follow some nutrition classes. If you need a quick fix, however, you can add me as a friend and have a peek at my diary, I have been on a 1200 calorie diet for a week now, and maybe you can get some ideas from there. (Ignore the first week, I had just had my teeth pulled) You may have to navigate through all the stuff that are not in English though.
So you're telling me that calling her out isn't helping but then you agree with what I said. Makes sense.
Sorry, I don't cover my advice in sprinkles. Not happening.
I was actually taking issue with the first part (and your first reply), as you are just telling her "you should know". Which, obviously she doesn't, if she is asking. So it's not really advice.
The second part, yes that I agree with. I also don't care much for how you phrase it.0 -
GingerbreadCandy wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »I'm going home for Christmas and won't have a treadmill there so I will be on a 1200 calorie diet. Could someone possibly show me what I can eat throughout the day that would be equal to 1200 and filling?
What??? Seriously????
? What
You are 22 years old. We need to tell you what to eat?
Honest question, can't your husband help you with that since you knoe, you do live together? Or does he also eat Cocoa Puffs for dinner?
Calling her out won't help her fix that, though. Regardless of whether or not she should know better at her age.
MrM does have a good point however, what does your husband eat?
Anyhow, I agree with the comments saying that you should talk to you doctor and seek a dietician or follow some nutrition classes. If you need a quick fix, however, you can add me as a friend and have a peek at my diary, I have been on a 1200 calorie diet for a week now, and maybe you can get some ideas from there. (Ignore the first week, I had just had my teeth pulled) You may have to navigate through all the stuff that are not in English though.
OP doesn't need to be on a 1200 calorie diet. I don't think she has stated that she isn't the weight in her pictures, so I'm assuming she is. There really isn't anyone on MFP that can help her in a healthy way because her goal isn't healthy. It is encouraging that she said she would add more protein, and I hope she continues to read up on how to achieve good nutrition.
OP, someone gave you the link for the governments MyPlate. It will tell you exactly how to improve your diet and give you meal plans. If you won't seek professional help, start there.0 -
GingerbreadCandy wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »I'm going home for Christmas and won't have a treadmill there so I will be on a 1200 calorie diet. Could someone possibly show me what I can eat throughout the day that would be equal to 1200 and filling?
What??? Seriously????
? What
You are 22 years old. We need to tell you what to eat?
Honest question, can't your husband help you with that since you knoe, you do live together? Or does he also eat Cocoa Puffs for dinner?
Calling her out won't help her fix that, though. Regardless of whether or not she should know better at her age.
MrM does have a good point however, what does your husband eat?
Anyhow, I agree with the comments saying that you should talk to you doctor and seek a dietician or follow some nutrition classes. If you need a quick fix, however, you can add me as a friend and have a peek at my diary, I have been on a 1200 calorie diet for a week now, and maybe you can get some ideas from there. (Ignore the first week, I had just had my teeth pulled) You may have to navigate through all the stuff that are not in English though.
OP doesn't need to be on a 1200 calorie diet. I don't think she has stated that she isn't the weight in her pictures, so I'm assuming she is. There really isn't anyone on MFP that can help her in a healthy way because her goal isn't healthy. It is encouraging that she said she would add more protein, and I hope she continues to read up on how to achieve good nutrition.
OP, someone gave you the link for the governments MyPlate. It will tell you exactly how to improve your diet and give you meal plans. If you won't seek professional help, start there.
Mostly, I was hoping she could get some meal ideas. Since she seems to be struggling with that.
I was only able to see the second picture just now, for some reason. My mistake. You are right, based on her second picture a 1200 cal diet is not what she needs.0 -
GingerbreadCandy wrote: »GingerbreadCandy wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »I'm going home for Christmas and won't have a treadmill there so I will be on a 1200 calorie diet. Could someone possibly show me what I can eat throughout the day that would be equal to 1200 and filling?
What??? Seriously????
? What
You are 22 years old. We need to tell you what to eat?
Honest question, can't your husband help you with that since you knoe, you do live together? Or does he also eat Cocoa Puffs for dinner?
Calling her out won't help her fix that, though. Regardless of whether or not she should know better at her age.
MrM does have a good point however, what does your husband eat?
Anyhow, I agree with the comments saying that you should talk to you doctor and seek a dietician or follow some nutrition classes. If you need a quick fix, however, you can add me as a friend and have a peek at my diary, I have been on a 1200 calorie diet for a week now, and maybe you can get some ideas from there. (Ignore the first week, I had just had my teeth pulled) You may have to navigate through all the stuff that are not in English though.
OP doesn't need to be on a 1200 calorie diet. I don't think she has stated that she isn't the weight in her pictures, so I'm assuming she is. There really isn't anyone on MFP that can help her in a healthy way because her goal isn't healthy. It is encouraging that she said she would add more protein, and I hope she continues to read up on how to achieve good nutrition.
OP, someone gave you the link for the governments MyPlate. It will tell you exactly how to improve your diet and give you meal plans. If you won't seek professional help, start there.
Mostly, I was hoping she could get some meal ideas. Since she seems to be struggling with that.
I was only able to see the second picture just now, for some reason. My mistake. You are right, based on her second picture a 1200 cal diet is not what she needs.
She's not struggling with that. She's looking for excuses to continue under eating, and your helping to enable that.0 -
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GingerbreadCandy wrote: »GingerbreadCandy wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »I'm going home for Christmas and won't have a treadmill there so I will be on a 1200 calorie diet. Could someone possibly show me what I can eat throughout the day that would be equal to 1200 and filling?
What??? Seriously????
? What
You are 22 years old. We need to tell you what to eat?
Honest question, can't your husband help you with that since you knoe, you do live together? Or does he also eat Cocoa Puffs for dinner?
Calling her out won't help her fix that, though. Regardless of whether or not she should know better at her age.
MrM does have a good point however, what does your husband eat?
Anyhow, I agree with the comments saying that you should talk to you doctor and seek a dietician or follow some nutrition classes. If you need a quick fix, however, you can add me as a friend and have a peek at my diary, I have been on a 1200 calorie diet for a week now, and maybe you can get some ideas from there. (Ignore the first week, I had just had my teeth pulled) You may have to navigate through all the stuff that are not in English though.
So you're telling me that calling her out isn't helping but then you agree with what I said. Makes sense.
Sorry, I don't cover my advice in sprinkles. Not happening.
I was actually taking issue with the first part (and your first reply), as you are just telling her "you should know". Which, obviously she doesn't, if she is asking. So it's not really advice.
The second part, yes that I agree with. I also don't care much for how you phrase it.
She's an adult. She should know that it's time to stop eating like a kid. You don't like the way I said it then that's just tough.
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OP, I'm not sure if you are being overwhelmed by so many responses and perhaps the messages aren't sinking in. So please read the following very carefully:
1) Your "diet" is severely flawed and you are not eating healthy
2) Your comments and original may indicate that you either have or are in danger of having an eating disorder. At the very least, you seem to have an unhealthy relationship with food
3) You seem to have no knowledge of nutrition, how many calories you should eat and exercising.
4) You haven't seemed to absorb anything that anyone has said to you in this very long string of comments and follow up their posts will perplexing questions that make me wonder if you are "for real".
5) If you are on MFP then you have access to the internet. There are tons of websites on dieting, nutrition, fitness, eating disorders (and their warning signs), etc. Do some research and do not rely on strangers on MFP to tell you how to live.
6) I haven't looked but it seems you may already be underweight. Are you getting that?
7) This is serious and not a game. You could be doing irreparable damage to yourself physically and mentally.
8) As I read through your posts the theme is the same: You want to know if you're eating too much. 100 people have told you that you are not eating too much. Your husband said you eat a lot of junk, meaning you eat mostly unhealthy food, not that you eat too much.
Bottom line: What we are all trying to tell you is that you are not eating the right things. We are also trying to tell you that you may be eating too little calories. And we are trying to tell you that you may not need to lose any weight because you appear to be too thin. Lastly, a few posters have made reference to previous posts you have made that might indicate an eating disorder. I strongly suggest you speak with a professional about this as soon as possible. Let you husband read these posts and hopefully he can explain it to you.
Do you get it now? Good luck.0 -
OP, Please seek help. Based on your subsequent posts in this thread, I truly think you need to seek professional help. Perhaps you can ask for referrals for Christmas, and stop worrying about eating 1200 calories on Christmas day.0
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GingerbreadCandy wrote: »GingerbreadCandy wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »I'm going home for Christmas and won't have a treadmill there so I will be on a 1200 calorie diet. Could someone possibly show me what I can eat throughout the day that would be equal to 1200 and filling?
What??? Seriously????
? What
You are 22 years old. We need to tell you what to eat?
Honest question, can't your husband help you with that since you knoe, you do live together? Or does he also eat Cocoa Puffs for dinner?
Calling her out won't help her fix that, though. Regardless of whether or not she should know better at her age.
MrM does have a good point however, what does your husband eat?
Anyhow, I agree with the comments saying that you should talk to you doctor and seek a dietician or follow some nutrition classes. If you need a quick fix, however, you can add me as a friend and have a peek at my diary, I have been on a 1200 calorie diet for a week now, and maybe you can get some ideas from there. (Ignore the first week, I had just had my teeth pulled) You may have to navigate through all the stuff that are not in English though.
OP doesn't need to be on a 1200 calorie diet. I don't think she has stated that she isn't the weight in her pictures, so I'm assuming she is. There really isn't anyone on MFP that can help her in a healthy way because her goal isn't healthy. It is encouraging that she said she would add more protein, and I hope she continues to read up on how to achieve good nutrition.
OP, someone gave you the link for the governments MyPlate. It will tell you exactly how to improve your diet and give you meal plans. If you won't seek professional help, start there.
Mostly, I was hoping she could get some meal ideas. Since she seems to be struggling with that.
I was only able to see the second picture just now, for some reason. My mistake. You are right, based on her second picture a 1200 cal diet is not what she needs.
She's not struggling with that. She's looking for excuses to continue under eating, and your helping to enable that.
Yes, I said I realised that and that I made a mistake.0 -
is this for real? it does not seem serious to me0
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GingerbreadCandy wrote: »GingerbreadCandy wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »neversummer7 wrote: »I'm going home for Christmas and won't have a treadmill there so I will be on a 1200 calorie diet. Could someone possibly show me what I can eat throughout the day that would be equal to 1200 and filling?
What??? Seriously????
? What
You are 22 years old. We need to tell you what to eat?
Honest question, can't your husband help you with that since you knoe, you do live together? Or does he also eat Cocoa Puffs for dinner?
Calling her out won't help her fix that, though. Regardless of whether or not she should know better at her age.
MrM does have a good point however, what does your husband eat?
Anyhow, I agree with the comments saying that you should talk to you doctor and seek a dietician or follow some nutrition classes. If you need a quick fix, however, you can add me as a friend and have a peek at my diary, I have been on a 1200 calorie diet for a week now, and maybe you can get some ideas from there. (Ignore the first week, I had just had my teeth pulled) You may have to navigate through all the stuff that are not in English though.
So you're telling me that calling her out isn't helping but then you agree with what I said. Makes sense.
Sorry, I don't cover my advice in sprinkles. Not happening.
I was actually taking issue with the first part (and your first reply), as you are just telling her "you should know". Which, obviously she doesn't, if she is asking. So it's not really advice.
The second part, yes that I agree with. I also don't care much for how you phrase it.
She's an adult. She should know that it's time to stop eating like a kid. You don't like the way I said it then that's just tough.
Sorry, I just realised the phrasing I used has a completely different meaning than I what I wanted to say. I meant to say I don't care how you phrase your advice. I just dislike in general when people give empty advice, such as "just eat better". Since it does not really help.0
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