Weight loss tricks
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WalkingAlong wrote: »Start with soup
People who ate a low-calorie vegetable soup before a meal consumed 20% fewer calories at the meal, according to research from Penn State Unniversity. Have a low-calorie broth-based veggie soup before your largest meal of the day to reduce calories and lose weight without feeling hungry.
—Erin Palinski-Wade
Not a trick.....this is just a way to get into a deficit.
and not a good way IMO but i don't care for soups
Please, no one else recommend anything that doesn't appeal to or isn't approved by adowe, ok?
I think the point he is trying to make is that "tricks" are personal preference.
And, also, eating soup before every meal would get really cumbersome after a while.0 -
Well, I do try to follow the calorie deficit. I have lost some kilos and I have gains some more, and then lost some again.
I do know that there is no magic trick to be found.
My problem is that I don't eat meat, well I eat fish,but that about sums it.
I try to replace the protein with healthy alternative of meat.
I just wanted to know about some healthy advices on how to achieve this calorie deficit in a healthy not to self - abusing way.
I cannot just stop eating you know0 -
i'm a she and i found the ones telling her to eat a calorie deficit to be them trying to feel superior actually.
I said calorie deficit. Because it is the only true "trick" to weight loss.
People like to come up with a million different "tricks" for weight loss, whether it's the soup idea, or using smaller plates, drinking water before meals, eating six small meals a day, eating only 3 meals and no snacking, not eating after a certain time, not eating before a certain time, not eating certain foods, only eating certain foods, replacing foods with lower calorie foods that aren't necessarily better for you, eating only proportioned foods…the list goes on and on.
At the end of the day, you can do whatever little "tricks" you want, but if you're not in a calorie deficit, it doesn't matter. People waste too much time trying to "trick" themselves into weight loss when getting a food scale, learning proper portion sizes, and counting calories would not only get results but would also help them change the way they think about food and help them to make better choices in giving their body what it needs.
All these "tricks" that are advertised in magazines do is give people another way to avoid having to face their own eating habits and be accountable for their decisions. Admitting that you make poor food choices, or are an emotional eater, or have disordered eating habits, or just plain haven't been taking of yourself can be tough to face, but you're going to be much more successful identifying the problem and dealing with it. Or you can continue to sit around and pretend that your weight loss isn't happening because the plates are tricking you, or because you didn't get to eat every 2-3 hours and your metabolism fire is now only embers instead of a roaring blaze.
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Well, I do try to follow the calorie deficit. I have lost some kilos and I have gains some more, and then lost some again.
I do know that there is no magic trick to be found.
My problem is that I don't eat meat, well I eat fish,but that about sums it.
I try to replace the protein with healthy alternative of meat.
I just wanted to know about some healthy advices on how to achieve this calorie deficit in a healthy not to self - abusing way.
I cannot just stop eating you know
Do you eat eggs? If you like eggs, they are a good source of protein and healthy fat for not many calories. I always have hard boiled eggs in my fridge.0 -
So if this is what tricks work for us personally, here's mine:
Eat at a deficit
Eat ice cream/gelato or some treat nightly
Eat a portion double the size of my husbands for dinner
Only eat things I enjoy and don't ever consume cauliflower
See my tricks probably won't work for everyone, but these helped me lose over 120 lbs so I would say they work for me0 -
WalkingAlong wrote: »Start with soup
People who ate a low-calorie vegetable soup before a meal consumed 20% fewer calories at the meal, according to research from Penn State Unniversity. Have a low-calorie broth-based veggie soup before your largest meal of the day to reduce calories and lose weight without feeling hungry.
—Erin Palinski-Wade
Not a trick.....this is just a way to get into a deficit.
and not a good way IMO but i don't care for soups
Please, no one else recommend anything that doesn't appeal to or isn't approved by adowe, ok?
I think the point he is trying to make is that "tricks" are personal preference.
And, also, eating soup before every meal would get really cumbersome after a while.
I don't think eating soup before dinner is cumbersome. It's for doing while in weight loss mode, though I don't think it'd be hard or a bad habit for life, either. Many people eat salad before dinner. Soup's easier.0 -
WalkingAlong wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »Start with soup
People who ate a low-calorie vegetable soup before a meal consumed 20% fewer calories at the meal, according to research from Penn State Unniversity. Have a low-calorie broth-based veggie soup before your largest meal of the day to reduce calories and lose weight without feeling hungry.
—Erin Palinski-Wade
Not a trick.....this is just a way to get into a deficit.
and not a good way IMO but i don't care for soups
Please, no one else recommend anything that doesn't appeal to or isn't approved by adowe, ok?
I think the point he is trying to make is that "tricks" are personal preference.
And, also, eating soup before every meal would get really cumbersome after a while.
I don't think eating soup before dinner is cumbersome. It's for doing while in weight loss mode, though I don't think it'd be hard or a bad habit for life, either. Many people eat salad before dinner. Soup's easier.
Again, opinion and personal preference regarding the soup.0 -
Paul_Collyer wrote: »- Find the right calorie deficit for your situation. Trick is to minimise hunger and temptation and also provide your body with the nutrients it needs, while being below your maintenance burn.
- Make good food choices beyond calories.....it will also make your calories go further. Keep your sugar target low and within that eat natural ones eg. fruit as much as possible. Also pay some attention to the GI index for your carbs.
- Weigh and measure your food. Do not guess unless you have to, and be honest.
- Plan your food diary on days where it is possible
- Drink water through the day
- Weigh yourself often and learn about your body, while keeping your eye on the trend....
- Get exercising, and measure it accurately in terms of calories. Gadgets are your friend here if you can afford them.....( I use vivofit and Garmin 620, and HRM for all activities. About to go to 920xt to cover all if Santa listens to my wishes ;-) )
- Reward yourself with days off or days where you go over your limit, as long as you make up for it on other days. You have to live.
LOL GI Index
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Well, I do try to follow the calorie deficit. I have lost some kilos and I have gains some more, and then lost some again.
I do know that there is no magic trick to be found.
My problem is that I don't eat meat, well I eat fish,but that about sums it.
I try to replace the protein with healthy alternative of meat.
I just wanted to know about some healthy advices on how to achieve this calorie deficit in a healthy not to self - abusing way.
I cannot just stop eating you know
No need to stop eating. Just figure out what your calories needs are and eat in a deficit. Eat what you like just less of eat. Protein helps to keep you fuller. Add a little exercise like walking for an extra calorie burn0 -
WalkingAlong wrote: »Start with soup
People who ate a low-calorie vegetable soup before a meal consumed 20% fewer calories at the meal, according to research from Penn State Unniversity. Have a low-calorie broth-based veggie soup before your largest meal of the day to reduce calories and lose weight without feeling hungry.
—Erin Palinski-Wade
Not a trick.....this is just a way to get into a deficit.
and not a good way IMO but i don't care for soups
Please, no one else recommend anything that doesn't appeal to or isn't approved by adowe, ok?
I think the point he is trying to make is that "tricks" are personal preference.
And, also, eating soup before every meal would get really cumbersome after a while.
Although the suggestion to eat a bowl of soup before your LARGEST meal of the day makes sense. Then again, I love soup and eat it a lot. Homemade of course. None of that sodium-laden canned stuff.0 -
I assume your talking about moi. i just hate it when people nitpick things just so they can point out someone is wrong, when they are creating a perfectly good discussion, which has actually appeared on this forum many times with no problem before
Not everyone understands the deficit concept when they are new. It can be rather shocking for people to hear that they can eat what they want, just less of it.
And, pot please meet kettle. Because you nitpick everything.
sorry for the late reply, had some stuff to do
anywho, if you've been on this site for more than a day you know the key to weight loss is a calorie deficit. just look at this one post that got jumped all over by 10 different users on the first page because it didnt say "calorie deficit tricks"
wanna give me an example of how i nitpick everything?-2 -
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no, there are. drinking more water and eating more filling low calorie, high nutrition foods like steamed vegetables result in my eating less calories overall because they fill me.
and that is a trick? Sounds more like a strategy...
As long as you keep telling yourself that you have to "trick" yourself, your chances of lifelong success will diminish... Do not underestimate the power of mindset.0 -
Paul_Collyer wrote: »- Find the right calorie deficit for your situation. Trick is to minimise hunger and temptation and also provide your body with the nutrients it needs, while being below your maintenance burn.
- Make good food choices beyond calories.....it will also make your calories go further. Keep your sugar target low and within that eat natural ones eg. fruit as much as possible. Also pay some attention to the GI index for your carbs.
- Weigh and measure your food. Do not guess unless you have to, and be honest.
- Plan your food diary on days where it is possible
- Drink water through the day
- Weigh yourself often and learn about your body, while keeping your eye on the trend....
- Get exercising, and measure it accurately in terms of calories. Gadgets are your friend here if you can afford them.....( I use vivofit and Garmin 620, and HRM for all activities. About to go to 920xt to cover all if Santa listens to my wishes ;-) )
- Reward yourself with days off or days where you go over your limit, as long as you make up for it on other days. You have to live.
LOL GI Index
If you don't like a tip, why not just move on, folks? It's not like anyone's recommending others puke up meals or something.
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no, there are. drinking more water and eating more filling low calorie, high nutrition foods like steamed vegetables result in my eating less calories overall because they fill me.
and that is a trick? Sounds more like a strategy...
As long as you keep telling yourself that you have to "trick" yourself, your chances of lifelong success will diminish... Do not underestimate the power of mindset.
look up strategy in the thesaurus and trick is a top suggestion. i dont see how people are struggling with this concept-1 -
WalkingAlong wrote: »Paul_Collyer wrote: »- Find the right calorie deficit for your situation. Trick is to minimise hunger and temptation and also provide your body with the nutrients it needs, while being below your maintenance burn.
- Make good food choices beyond calories.....it will also make your calories go further. Keep your sugar target low and within that eat natural ones eg. fruit as much as possible. Also pay some attention to the GI index for your carbs.
- Weigh and measure your food. Do not guess unless you have to, and be honest.
- Plan your food diary on days where it is possible
- Drink water through the day
- Weigh yourself often and learn about your body, while keeping your eye on the trend....
- Get exercising, and measure it accurately in terms of calories. Gadgets are your friend here if you can afford them.....( I use vivofit and Garmin 620, and HRM for all activities. About to go to 920xt to cover all if Santa listens to my wishes ;-) )
- Reward yourself with days off or days where you go over your limit, as long as you make up for it on other days. You have to live.
LOL GI Index
If you don't like a tip, why not just move on, folks? It's not like anyone's recommending others puke up meals or something.
And just how are you contributing by policing what other people say?
GI index is a laughable tip and was something that when I started I thought was important but by people laughing it made me go do some research.0 -
no, there are. drinking more water and eating more filling low calorie, high nutrition foods like steamed vegetables result in my eating less calories overall because they fill me.
and that is a trick? Sounds more like a strategy...
As long as you keep telling yourself that you have to "trick" yourself, your chances of lifelong success will diminish... Do not underestimate the power of mindset.
look up strategy in the thesaurus and trick is a top suggestion. i dont see how people are struggling with this concept
I get the concept. I think the language is flawed. What we tell ourselves has a powerful effect.0 -
I assume your talking about moi. i just hate it when people nitpick things just so they can point out someone is wrong, when they are creating a perfectly good discussion, which has actually appeared on this forum many times with no problem before
Not everyone understands the deficit concept when they are new. It can be rather shocking for people to hear that they can eat what they want, just less of it.
And, pot please meet kettle. Because you nitpick everything.
sorry for the late reply, had some stuff to do
anywho, if you've been on this site for more than a day you know the key to weight loss is a calorie deficit. just look at this one post that got jumped all over by 10 different users on the first page because it didnt say "calorie deficit tricks"
wanna give me an example of how i nitpick everything?
And you've been around here long enough to know that's not always the case.
You jump on people all the time based on your perception or opinion about what you think is important. You did it to me yesterday when I was actually trying to make a valid point.
Feel free to do that - but don't think that doesn't make you a hypocrite.0 -
Logging accurately and maintaining a deficit is the only way to go. It's the honesty that's the tricky part.
There are some really easy things you can do to lower your calories. Switch to diet soft drinks or choose one that has lower calories. Low fat sour cream, cream cheese, or mushroom soup oftentimes comes with lower calories and switching to the lower fat stuff can help you stay within your macros. (I'm always over on my fat....)
Smaller plates/bowls really help me to keep my portion sizes in control - especially when it comes to ice cream. It's actually astounding the amount of ice cream calories I used to eat in one sitting.
I still eat while watching tv, but when I do I take a little bowl of chips or popcorn to eat and ditch the bag in the kitchen so I won't keep snacking when I'm not hungry and lose track of how much I've eaten.
Eating larger meals and smaller snacks that fit within my calorie goal helps me stay on track so I don't get super hungry and eat every piece of chocolate in the grocery store.0 -
GiveMeCoffee wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »Paul_Collyer wrote: »- Find the right calorie deficit for your situation. Trick is to minimise hunger and temptation and also provide your body with the nutrients it needs, while being below your maintenance burn.
- Make good food choices beyond calories.....it will also make your calories go further. Keep your sugar target low and within that eat natural ones eg. fruit as much as possible. Also pay some attention to the GI index for your carbs.
- Weigh and measure your food. Do not guess unless you have to, and be honest.
- Plan your food diary on days where it is possible
- Drink water through the day
- Weigh yourself often and learn about your body, while keeping your eye on the trend....
- Get exercising, and measure it accurately in terms of calories. Gadgets are your friend here if you can afford them.....( I use vivofit and Garmin 620, and HRM for all activities. About to go to 920xt to cover all if Santa listens to my wishes ;-) )
- Reward yourself with days off or days where you go over your limit, as long as you make up for it on other days. You have to live.
LOL GI Index
If you don't like a tip, why not just move on, folks? It's not like anyone's recommending others puke up meals or something.
And just how are you contributing by policing what other people say?
If you don't like GI, don't use it. You don't get to pick The One True Diet.
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WalkingAlong wrote: »GiveMeCoffee wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »Paul_Collyer wrote: »- Find the right calorie deficit for your situation. Trick is to minimise hunger and temptation and also provide your body with the nutrients it needs, while being below your maintenance burn.
- Make good food choices beyond calories.....it will also make your calories go further. Keep your sugar target low and within that eat natural ones eg. fruit as much as possible. Also pay some attention to the GI index for your carbs.
- Weigh and measure your food. Do not guess unless you have to, and be honest.
- Plan your food diary on days where it is possible
- Drink water through the day
- Weigh yourself often and learn about your body, while keeping your eye on the trend....
- Get exercising, and measure it accurately in terms of calories. Gadgets are your friend here if you can afford them.....( I use vivofit and Garmin 620, and HRM for all activities. About to go to 920xt to cover all if Santa listens to my wishes ;-) )
- Reward yourself with days off or days where you go over your limit, as long as you make up for it on other days. You have to live.
LOL GI Index
If you don't like a tip, why not just move on, folks? It's not like anyone's recommending others puke up meals or something.
And just how are you contributing by policing what other people say?
If you don't like GI, don't use it. You don't get to pick The One True Diet.
Actually, you are equally as distracting.
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WalkingAlong wrote: »Start with soup
People who ate a low-calorie vegetable soup before a meal consumed 20% fewer calories at the meal, according to research from Penn State Unniversity. Have a low-calorie broth-based veggie soup before your largest meal of the day to reduce calories and lose weight without feeling hungry.
—Erin Palinski-Wade
Not a trick.....this is just a way to get into a deficit.
and not a good way IMO but i don't care for soups
Please, no one else recommend anything that doesn't appeal to or isn't approved by adowe, ok?
I think the point he is trying to make is that "tricks" are personal preference.
And, also, eating soup before every meal would get really cumbersome after a while.
Although the suggestion to eat a bowl of soup before your LARGEST meal of the day makes sense. Then again, I love soup and eat it a lot. Homemade of course. None of that sodium-laden canned stuff.
I love soup too. And, sure, it can make you feel full before a meal for sure. I would just get very tired of it if I ate it before every meal.
Unless it's ooey gooey french onion soup - because I could eat that every day. LOL.0 -
stop eating permanently and you'll lose weight.-1
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I assume your talking about moi. i just hate it when people nitpick things just so they can point out someone is wrong, when they are creating a perfectly good discussion, which has actually appeared on this forum many times with no problem before
Not everyone understands the deficit concept when they are new. It can be rather shocking for people to hear that they can eat what they want, just less of it.
And, pot please meet kettle. Because you nitpick everything.
sorry for the late reply, had some stuff to do
anywho, if you've been on this site for more than a day you know the key to weight loss is a calorie deficit. just look at this one post that got jumped all over by 10 different users on the first page because it didnt say "calorie deficit tricks"
wanna give me an example of how i nitpick everything?
And you've been around here long enough to know that's not always the case.
You jump on people all the time based on your perception or opinion about what you think is important. You did it to me yesterday when I was actually trying to make a valid point.
Feel free to do that - but don't think that doesn't make you a hypocrite.
it almost always is. what i believe your referring to is people not realizing that they arent in a deficit. and im still lost on that point you were trying to make yesterday, all i saw was multiple posts asking the same question that had been answered already, thats why i stepped in-2 -
WalkingAlong wrote: »GiveMeCoffee wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »Paul_Collyer wrote: »- Find the right calorie deficit for your situation. Trick is to minimise hunger and temptation and also provide your body with the nutrients it needs, while being below your maintenance burn.
- Make good food choices beyond calories.....it will also make your calories go further. Keep your sugar target low and within that eat natural ones eg. fruit as much as possible. Also pay some attention to the GI index for your carbs.
- Weigh and measure your food. Do not guess unless you have to, and be honest.
- Plan your food diary on days where it is possible
- Drink water through the day
- Weigh yourself often and learn about your body, while keeping your eye on the trend....
- Get exercising, and measure it accurately in terms of calories. Gadgets are your friend here if you can afford them.....( I use vivofit and Garmin 620, and HRM for all activities. About to go to 920xt to cover all if Santa listens to my wishes ;-) )
- Reward yourself with days off or days where you go over your limit, as long as you make up for it on other days. You have to live.
LOL GI Index
If you don't like a tip, why not just move on, folks? It's not like anyone's recommending others puke up meals or something.
And just how are you contributing by policing what other people say?
If you don't like GI, don't use it. You don't get to pick The One True Diet.
I said comments like laughing at some concepts are what helped me to decide what I should look into further because when I started I had no damn clue.
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I assume your talking about moi. i just hate it when people nitpick things just so they can point out someone is wrong, when they are creating a perfectly good discussion, which has actually appeared on this forum many times with no problem before
Not everyone understands the deficit concept when they are new. It can be rather shocking for people to hear that they can eat what they want, just less of it.
And, pot please meet kettle. Because you nitpick everything.
sorry for the late reply, had some stuff to do
anywho, if you've been on this site for more than a day you know the key to weight loss is a calorie deficit. just look at this one post that got jumped all over by 10 different users on the first page because it didnt say "calorie deficit tricks"
wanna give me an example of how i nitpick everything?
And you've been around here long enough to know that's not always the case.
You jump on people all the time based on your perception or opinion about what you think is important. You did it to me yesterday when I was actually trying to make a valid point.
Feel free to do that - but don't think that doesn't make you a hypocrite.
it almost always is. what i believe your referring to is people not realizing that they arent in a deficit. and im still lost on that point you were trying to make yesterday, all i saw was multiple posts asking the same question that had been answered already, thats why i stepped in
See, I disagree. I see a lot of detox/diet/cleanse/500 calorie/shakeology/garcinia/keytones/tricks/magical potions...etc. etc. etc. All threads about how to lose weight that don't take calorie deficit into consideration.
Just because you are lost on it, doesn't make it not valid. I can't help the fact that you missed parts of the thread that made it make sense. But policing everyone? Let it go.0 -
I assume your talking about moi. i just hate it when people nitpick things just so they can point out someone is wrong, when they are creating a perfectly good discussion, which has actually appeared on this forum many times with no problem before
Not everyone understands the deficit concept when they are new. It can be rather shocking for people to hear that they can eat what they want, just less of it.
And, pot please meet kettle. Because you nitpick everything.
sorry for the late reply, had some stuff to do
anywho, if you've been on this site for more than a day you know the key to weight loss is a calorie deficit. just look at this one post that got jumped all over by 10 different users on the first page because it didnt say "calorie deficit tricks"
wanna give me an example of how i nitpick everything?
And you've been around here long enough to know that's not always the case.
You jump on people all the time based on your perception or opinion about what you think is important. You did it to me yesterday when I was actually trying to make a valid point.
Feel free to do that - but don't think that doesn't make you a hypocrite.
it almost always is. what i believe your referring to is people not realizing that they arent in a deficit. and im still lost on that point you were trying to make yesterday, all i saw was multiple posts asking the same question that had been answered already, thats why i stepped in
See, I disagree. I see a lot of detox/diet/cleanse/500 calorie/shakeology/garcinia/keytones/tricks/magical potions...etc. etc. etc. All threads about how to lose weight that don't take calorie deficit into consideration.
Just because you are lost on it, doesn't make it not valid. I can't help the fact that you missed parts of the thread that made it make sense. But policing everyone? Let it go.
i read the whole thread, and it made sense but again what you were asking was answered. and policing is fun, what else am i supposed to do at work. Work? nat
ill agree about the detox and cleanse threads (though i think alot of people realize those are short term implementations that wont have all that much effect on fat loss as a whole) but most others u mentioned do. 500 cal diet does, shakeology is a tool that creates a deficit, garcina and keytones claim to boost metabolism creating a larger deficit (though they dont), tricks to help create a larger deficit (though it isnt explicitly stated as in this case). Id try a magic potion though-2 -
I assume your talking about moi. i just hate it when people nitpick things just so they can point out someone is wrong, when they are creating a perfectly good discussion, which has actually appeared on this forum many times with no problem before
Not everyone understands the deficit concept when they are new. It can be rather shocking for people to hear that they can eat what they want, just less of it.
And, pot please meet kettle. Because you nitpick everything.
sorry for the late reply, had some stuff to do
anywho, if you've been on this site for more than a day you know the key to weight loss is a calorie deficit. just look at this one post that got jumped all over by 10 different users on the first page because it didnt say "calorie deficit tricks"
wanna give me an example of how i nitpick everything?
And you've been around here long enough to know that's not always the case.
You jump on people all the time based on your perception or opinion about what you think is important. You did it to me yesterday when I was actually trying to make a valid point.
Feel free to do that - but don't think that doesn't make you a hypocrite.
it almost always is. what i believe your referring to is people not realizing that they arent in a deficit. and im still lost on that point you were trying to make yesterday, all i saw was multiple posts asking the same question that had been answered already, thats why i stepped in
See, I disagree. I see a lot of detox/diet/cleanse/500 calorie/shakeology/garcinia/keytones/tricks/magical potions...etc. etc. etc. All threads about how to lose weight that don't take calorie deficit into consideration.
Just because you are lost on it, doesn't make it not valid. I can't help the fact that you missed parts of the thread that made it make sense. But policing everyone? Let it go.
i read the whole thread, and it made sense but again what you were asking was answered. and policing is fun, what else am i supposed to do at work. Work? nat
ill agree about the detox and cleanse threads (though i think alot of people realize those are short term implementations that wont have all that much effect on fat loss as a whole) but most others u mentioned do. 500 cal diet does, shakeology is a tool that creates a deficit, garcina and keytones claim to boost metabolism creating a larger deficit (though they dont), tricks to help create a larger deficit (though it isnt explicitly stated as in this case). Id try a magic potion though
It actually wasn't answered. It was deflected. But, honestly, I'm done having this conversation with you.0 -
I assume your talking about moi. i just hate it when people nitpick things just so they can point out someone is wrong, when they are creating a perfectly good discussion, which has actually appeared on this forum many times with no problem before
Not everyone understands the deficit concept when they are new. It can be rather shocking for people to hear that they can eat what they want, just less of it.
And, pot please meet kettle. Because you nitpick everything.
sorry for the late reply, had some stuff to do
anywho, if you've been on this site for more than a day you know the key to weight loss is a calorie deficit. just look at this one post that got jumped all over by 10 different users on the first page because it didnt say "calorie deficit tricks"
wanna give me an example of how i nitpick everything?
And you've been around here long enough to know that's not always the case.
You jump on people all the time based on your perception or opinion about what you think is important. You did it to me yesterday when I was actually trying to make a valid point.
Feel free to do that - but don't think that doesn't make you a hypocrite.
it almost always is. what i believe your referring to is people not realizing that they arent in a deficit. and im still lost on that point you were trying to make yesterday, all i saw was multiple posts asking the same question that had been answered already, thats why i stepped in
See, I disagree. I see a lot of detox/diet/cleanse/500 calorie/shakeology/garcinia/keytones/tricks/magical potions...etc. etc. etc. All threads about how to lose weight that don't take calorie deficit into consideration.
Just because you are lost on it, doesn't make it not valid. I can't help the fact that you missed parts of the thread that made it make sense. But policing everyone? Let it go.
i read the whole thread, and it made sense but again what you were asking was answered. and policing is fun, what else am i supposed to do at work. Work? nat
ill agree about the detox and cleanse threads (though i think alot of people realize those are short term implementations that wont have all that much effect on fat loss as a whole) but most others u mentioned do. 500 cal diet does, shakeology is a tool that creates a deficit, garcina and keytones claim to boost metabolism creating a larger deficit (though they dont), tricks to help create a larger deficit (though it isnt explicitly stated as in this case). Id try a magic potion though
It actually wasn't answered. It was deflected. But, honestly, I'm done having this conversation with you.
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