Anyone else going sugar free in 2015?
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ForecasterJason wrote: »I think this is more like what the OP intended the thread to be about. If someone wants to give up added sugar, I don't think they'd want people telling them that they shouldn't.
IMO no one is saying they shouldn't. The important message is they don't have to. Obviously, highly refined foods have a lot more sugar and fat in them... also, and no big shocker, they have more calories. It's the calorie surplus that does the damage, not the sugar per se.
If you want to give up added sugar, rock on, I don't care what you do. But don't do it because you think there is no other road to success...
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I am new to My Fitness Pal but... In response to your query about sugar free. I have been 'refined sugar free' since August 2000. My weight has yo yo'd all my adult life until I accepted that I was addicted to chocolate, sweets and really anything with refined sugar in. I am no expert in the diet department and don't profess to be. But I now have peace of mind around my weight (have maintained a 60lb + weight loss for the last 14 years). I eat fruit and do accept that food converts to sugar - but there is clearly something in the process of either the way or the speed it is broken down that leads me to be able to eat say 1 apple where I could never just eat a few squares of chocolate. Needless to say - I don't intend to go back to eating the types of food that include refined sugar any time soon. 14 years is pretty well proof that it's not faddy. Won't be the answer for everyone but it works for me.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »LumberJacck wrote: »Back in the first half of the year I happened to read online about the Schaub family who went sugar free, and their health and energy improved. I thought I'd try this since I do have a few health and energy issues. I have no idea how long I'll last, but I thought I'd give it a try. Are there any others of you who will do the same?
I did it Oct 2014 because I learned sugar is toxic to my body.
Tried to cut back in Aug-Sept but no luck so I got ticked and when off sugar cold turkey start of Oct.
Thought I was going to die the first two weeks but I was facing a cancer risk if I got on the injections for pain management for my arthritis so the cancer risk drove me to stay off of sugar.
After two weeks the carb cravings just left. My 7-8+ pain level is like 2-3 now on a scale of 1-10. I plan to stay at <50 grams of carbs daily which means no sugar until I die.
Remember I had abused carbs for 40 years and sugar had wrecked my health so breaking my addiction was not easy.
Best of luck and doing it can save you a lot of grief if you plan to live to be old.
You really need to stop giving out bad advice!!!-1 -
hebrewhauler wrote: »I believe it is wise to avoid REFINED sugar or too much sugar period. There is a reason why we have a type 2 diabetes epidemic.
Yes there is a reason. Because people over eat everything, not just sugar
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hebrewhauler wrote: »I believe it is wise to avoid REFINED sugar or too much sugar period. There is a reason why we have a type 2 diabetes epidemic.
Yes there is a reason. Because people over eat everything, not just sugar
Yep...
Well...Not to say that your weight couldn't creep up over time eating a healthy well balanced diet. But I think you need a diet heavy in sugar/carbs and fat to force your body to achieve rapid or extreme weight gain. Otherwise you feel too full to manage to eat a big excess of calories.0 -
I used to sound like a lot of these posters--that sugar was awful, that I was addicted to it, that I was stuck in a cycle of cravings with it. And I did give it up and cut it completely out of my diet for several years.
During that time, I realized something. When I was growing up, we didn't eat sweets that often. Every meal didn't end with something sweet. They were only occasional treats, maybe after Sunday dinner and on holidays. Portions of them were limited. I realized that my consumption of them had gone beyond what the norm for them should have been.
I was able to add them back into my diet in moderation in the way I used to eat them when I was growing up. I still have to watch because sugar can trigger migraines for me, but I realized... it's not sugar that was the issue. It was my behavior that was. I just put too much sugary food into my mouth too often. I didn't need to end every meal with dessert.
I didn't indulge in anything over the holidays because I didn't want anything. But if I had, I would have made myself something and had a small amount and enjoyed. In moderation. And gone on my way. I'm in control of what goes in my mouth.0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »I'm in control of what goes in my mouth.
You mean there ISN'T someone holding a gun to your head until you eat an entire batch of fudge?!0 -
JoanaMHill wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »I'm in control of what goes in my mouth.
You mean there ISN'T someone holding a gun to your head until you eat an entire batch of fudge?!
The ebil sugar in the fudge is too refined for that kind of behavior.
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StellaCooke wrote: »I am new to My Fitness Pal but... In response to your query about sugar free. I have been 'refined sugar free' since August 2000. My weight has yo yo'd all my adult life until I accepted that I was addicted to chocolate, sweets and really anything with refined sugar in. I am no expert in the diet department and don't profess to be. But I now have peace of mind around my weight (have maintained a 60lb + weight loss for the last 14 years). I eat fruit and do accept that food converts to sugar - but there is clearly something in the process of either the way or the speed it is broken down that leads me to be able to eat say 1 apple where I could never just eat a few squares of chocolate. Needless to say - I don't intend to go back to eating the types of food that include refined sugar any time soon. 14 years is pretty well proof that it's not faddy. Won't be the answer for everyone but it works for me.
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Wow! Maintained a 60 lb weight loss for 14 years? That puts you in superhero status in my book. Congratulations! Out of curiosity, where has exercise fit in?
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ForecasterJason wrote: »I 'gave' up refined sugar years ago. It also eliminated all those packages items that I thought I couldn't live without. My sugars now come from baking with stevia/dates/figs/bananas/apple sauce/raw honey, etc., I am loving making my own stuff and find the packaged items I thought were SO good...actually do not taste very good to me! I find eating a banana a sweet treat! So, I don't feel deprived I feel it's opened a whole culinary world to me that I have embraced!
Good luck to you!
P.S. I am sorry you have to read all those postings stating that they have issues with anyone giving up their sugar, etc., That is not what you wanted...you wanted people that wish to join you in your new endeavor!
People are simply pointing out that it is not needed and that the "source" of the information that the OP used is suspect. This site is about getting true information out there instead of junk. People need to hear the real, true, non biased information before they make a decision.0 -
If you want to give up added sugar, rock on, I don't care what you do. But don't do it because you think there is no other road to success...
Success at what? The guy's 50 and appears to be bordering on underweight by his photo.
Maybe he wants to succeed at pain management or alleviating some health condition he's not yet discussed, but what he wants to succeed at has not been revealed.
Purely losing weight can address pain management and a multitude of health conditions. Has little to do with sugar...
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BOL, You're gonna need it. To go completely sugar free that would also mean avoiding fructose. So it's basically gonna be impossible.0
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hebrewhauler wrote: »I believe it is wise to avoid REFINED sugar or too much sugar period. There is a reason why we have a type 2 diabetes epidemic.
yes, its called over eating..
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Yes ! I have Candida Overgrowth. Sugar Feeds It so I was always needing the Medicine the Dermatologist put me on...then I got tested by a Regular Doctor and after 17 yrs. Was diagnosed. ...now I have very limited sugar (22 grams or under) and That is mostly natural occurring "sugar" from Fruit. I have Not had to use my Medicine from the Derm.doctor since I have Cut Out **Sugar**Yeast**....awesomeness!!0
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I have been working at going sugar free for years. For me it is addicting. It messes with my brain function. I have sugar hangovers when I relapse. It takes 5 days to get it out of my system so only 2 indulgences a week will keep me miserable all the time. When it's out of my system the cravings for it diminish to being imperceptible. I feel "clean" inside, can breathe more easily, have fewer emotional outbursts and have better control of my food intake in general. So my recommendation is to go for it. You will feel the difference before a week is out and then you can decide if it is good for you. You will be the best judge.0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »LumberJacck wrote: »Back in the first half of the year I happened to read online about the Schaub family who went sugar free, and their health and energy improved. I thought I'd try this since I do have a few health and energy issues. I have no idea how long I'll last, but I thought I'd give it a try. Are there any others of you who will do the same?
I did it Oct 2014 because I learned sugar is toxic to my body.
Tried to cut back in Aug-Sept but no luck so I got ticked and when off sugar cold turkey start of Oct.
Thought I was going to die the first two weeks but I was facing a cancer risk if I got on the injections for pain management for my arthritis so the cancer risk drove me to stay off of sugar.
After two weeks the carb cravings just left. My 7-8+ pain level is like 2-3 now on a scale of 1-10. I plan to stay at <50 grams of carbs daily which means no sugar until I die.
Remember I had abused carbs for 40 years and sugar had wrecked my health so breaking my addiction was not easy.
Best of luck and doing it can save you a lot of grief if you plan to live to be old.
Just an off topic aside, the "cancer risk" from Embrel? About .22% Please note the decimal point. As a person who takes a class of the drug you eschewed, I really, really take issue with how casually you spout misinformation about the risks from it AND about how eliminating carbs can miraculously effect inflammatory arthritis. You're probably just not flaring right now. The only KNOWN and proven ways to get results with inflammatory arthritis pain are anti-TNF therapy, NSAIDS and exercise.
So many people with autoimmune and other chronic pain conditions miss this. It's very difficult to pin down what's helping or not even amongst proven medical treatments because the disease itself is cyclical. I could have concluded back in July that sugar was helping my pain because I was baking a lot more and my pain levels were decreasing. It actually had nothing to do with sugar, I was just on a downward trend.0 -
durangoquilter wrote: »I have been working at going sugar free for years. For me it is addicting. It messes with my brain function. I have sugar hangovers when I relapse. It takes 5 days to get it out of my system so only 2 indulgences a week will keep me miserable all the time. When it's out of my system the cravings for it diminish to being imperceptible. I feel "clean" inside, can breathe more easily, have fewer emotional outbursts and have better control of my food intake in general. So my recommendation is to go for it. You will feel the difference before a week is out and then you can decide if it is good for you. You will be the best judge.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »I used to sound like a lot of these posters--that sugar was awful, that I was addicted to it, that I was stuck in a cycle of cravings with it. And I did give it up and cut it completely out of my diet for several years.
During that time, I realized something. When I was growing up, we didn't eat sweets that often. Every meal didn't end with something sweet. They were only occasional treats, maybe after Sunday dinner and on holidays. Portions of them were limited. I realized that my consumption of them had gone beyond what the norm for them should have been.
I was able to add them back into my diet in moderation in the way I used to eat them when I was growing up. I still have to watch because sugar can trigger migraines for me, but I realized... it's not sugar that was the issue. It was my behavior that was. I just put too much sugary food into my mouth too often. I didn't need to end every meal with dessert.
I didn't indulge in anything over the holidays because I didn't want anything. But if I had, I would have made myself something and had a small amount and enjoyed. In moderation. And gone on my way. I'm in control of what goes in my mouth.
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hebrewhauler wrote: »I believe it is wise to avoid REFINED sugar or too much sugar period. There is a reason why we have a type 2 diabetes epidemic.
It's from overeating, not from any sugar itself. If that were true, most people would type 2 diabetes because many foods have refined sugar and there is a rare person who has absolutely none, even if they think they don't.0 -
hebrewhauler wrote: »I believe it is wise to avoid REFINED sugar or too much sugar period. There is a reason why we have a type 2 diabetes epidemic.
No. We have a type-2 diabetes epidemic due to the obesity epidemic which is due to an overconsumption of ALL foods.0 -
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ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »LumberJacck wrote: »Back in the first half of the year I happened to read online about the Schaub family who went sugar free, and their health and energy improved. I thought I'd try this since I do have a few health and energy issues. I have no idea how long I'll last, but I thought I'd give it a try. Are there any others of you who will do the same?
I did it Oct 2014 because I learned sugar is toxic to my body.
Tried to cut back in Aug-Sept but no luck so I got ticked and when off sugar cold turkey start of Oct.
Thought I was going to die the first two weeks but I was facing a cancer risk if I got on the injections for pain management for my arthritis so the cancer risk drove me to stay off of sugar.
After two weeks the carb cravings just left. My 7-8+ pain level is like 2-3 now on a scale of 1-10. I plan to stay at <50 grams of carbs daily which means no sugar until I die.
Remember I had abused carbs for 40 years and sugar had wrecked my health so breaking my addiction was not easy.
Best of luck and doing it can save you a lot of grief if you plan to live to be old.
Just an off topic aside, the "cancer risk" from Embrel? About .22% Please note the decimal point. As a person who takes a class of the drug you eschewed, I really, really take issue with how casually you spout misinformation about the risks from it AND about how eliminating carbs can miraculously effect inflammatory arthritis. You're probably just not flaring right now. The only KNOWN and proven ways to get results with inflammatory arthritis pain are anti-TNF therapy, NSAIDS and exercise.
So many people with autoimmune and other chronic pain conditions miss this. It's very difficult to pin down what's helping or not even amongst proven medical treatments because the disease itself is cyclical. I could have concluded back in July that sugar was helping my pain because I was baking a lot more and my pain levels were decreasing. It actually had nothing to do with sugar, I was just on a downward trend.
I think it's hard to tell for personal experience that something is "working" for a chronic cyclical condition, but for medicines and exercise? They've been proven by studies to work. Granted, not all medicines will work for all patients, but in general, their efficacy is supported by scientific study, not just correlation backed anecdata.
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And look at all the new accounts popping up. It's January so it's not surprising. It is funny that the group demonizing sugar belong to the same demographic.
Yeah, don't miss your chance to mock new people signing up on the site. Way to make them feel welcome and comfortable posting their questions. Whether those questions are about sugar, raspberry keytones, starvation mode, carb limitation, heart rate monitoring or anything else that the resident experts all agree on. They're all such idiots, aren't they MrM27?
He didn't call the new people idiots ... he noted a correlation between those with new accounts and believing/posting dubious information.
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trying to cut out processed sugar with the exception of twice a month.0
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Let the 2015 drama commence!0
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And look at all the new accounts popping up. It's January so it's not surprising. It is funny that the group demonizing sugar belong to the same demographic.
Yeah, don't miss your chance to mock new people signing up on the site. Way to make them feel welcome and comfortable posting their questions. Whether those questions are about sugar, raspberry keytones, starvation mode, carb limitation, heart rate monitoring or anything else that the resident experts all agree on. They're all such idiots, aren't they MrM27?
Huh? This is an odd post, given that nobody called anyone idiots (except you).
However, I also see where many new people who have jumped in to demonize sugar.
Nothing is good or bad for you, it's all about moderation. However, if you feel like you need to give up sugar for personal reasons that's fine, but that does not mean sugar is evil.0
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