Some Rules for Gym Noobs.

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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    I actually have a legit question as I have seen this mentioned a couple of times. Who wipes down weights after they use them?
    I do.

    I never police chalk up- not even off the bar- mostly because- we use chalk at the gym- there is an open bowl of it- it's free serve.

    Last week I did watch a guy make a really good effort to clean his blood off the bar- he barked his shins something fierce doing sumo pulls- so it was pretty effed up. I was (not impressed) I respected shall I say the fact that he cleaned up- that's a cleanliness courtesy issue- so it was nice to see it done.

    I honestly have never seen anyone wipe down a barbell after squatting or benching. Nor DBs for that matter tbh.

    nope- never- never seen anyone wipe down a bar- with the exception of blood- because well- that's just unsanitary to not clean it up- I mean- it's grooved- so I doubt you're going to get it honestly clean- but for phucks sake- try.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    TO THE OP:

    I hope you understand that taking the time to write ALL of those said "rules" out on MFP is a clear and blatant waste of time. Chances are, people will do what they please, even if you don't agree with it.

    I'm sorry to burst your bubble but that's just reality. It happens at every gym. If you have an issue with that, I suggest you workout in your own home where your rules will not be broken.

    considering several gym new goers replied to the thread you are already wrong….
    Oh really? Please explain because I would love to hear how i'm "wrong"? I'm all ears so go on.

    I'd say 3/4 of gym goers adhere to most of these rules. It's the few regulars and newbies that ruin it for the rest.

    lol says you. All the "noobs" (btw 12 year old boys going through puberty use that word) i've come across have been perfectly fine. I think you guys are being too judgmental and not focusing on your workout. You're also forgetting you and everyone on this post (*COUGH OP*) were newbies at one point so chill and give people a break.
    In case I wasn't clear their youngin, if someone's a noob and they step over my barbell when I'm deadlifting, or doing pendlays, it might hit their underbits, on porpoise.

    I think you mean Purpose. Porpoise is an animal. Just saying :)

    You missed "their" as well.

    I peppered that nusse with plenty little things like that.

    Flipper. Just saiyan.

    I used to live watching flipper when I was a kid.

    And yes, I just aged myself!
  • jeremywm1977
    jeremywm1977 Posts: 657 Member
    edited January 2015
    DjinnMarie wrote: »
    Agree with all, although I would add my own pet peeve.

    #13 (or whatever number we're up to given other people's suggestions). If you've come to the gym to use a treadmill to walk no faster, and with no more resistance than you would normally (and it's not for rehab purposes), just so you can check in on Facebook that you went to a gym, read your book, and pat yourself on the back because you went over 10,000 steps on your FitBit..........please just use that energy to walk back home, and stop looking perplexed because you can't reach your goals even though you "exercise every day". You're not doing yourself any favors, and you're occupying a machine when someone who really wants to work might actually use it for what it's intended for.

    Sorry, I really had to speak my peace on this one. My employer had a nice size fitness center, and there were always the usual suspects guilty of this offense. It became annoying because others are trying to fit in a lunchtime workout, and there are some who are just looking for some form of emotional gratification. If you are rehabbing something, then this isn't aimed at you. On the other side, don't hop on the treadmill with no incline and at less than 2.5MPH, read your book, and then whine because you "are at the gym every day, but can't seem to lose the weight".............UGGGGHHHHHH.

    I shall step down off my soap box now.

    WOW. Just WOW.

    Yeah, careful stepping down from your soap box - it looks high.

    Every step those people take is better than the steps they DON'T take by going out to McDonalds for lunch or sitting at their desk.

    You are ABSOLUTELY doing yourself a favour by walking, regardless of whether or not it's at 2.5mph and you check facebook while you do it.

    If they get emotional gratification from it, then who are you to judge? You should be happy that they have found something that gratifies them emotionally, sorry to hear it bothers your so much.

    At the peak of my half marathon training I was running in the dead of winter on a treadmill for 2 hours including warm up and cool down. Do you know in those 2 hours how many people step on one of the other treadmills, walk for 10 minutes and step off? TONS! Not once did I ever think that they were wasting space, they deserve the gym as much as I do and they can do whatever the hell they want.

    It's people like you that make it so incredibly difficult for people to start a healthy lifestyle. As if the gym isn't terrifying enough when you're new, now they have to worry that people think they aren't working hard enough once they are there?

    Well, I guess that's why I initially called it a pet peeve, because it's my own internal grievance. I think the point you missed in my grievance is not necessarily the people who use the treadmill, but is more the people who use it as a means of patting themselves on the back, and then *kitten* because they have made no progress. Maybe my point got masked in the other parts of my tirade, but I guess it made you feel better to choose the parts that suited your agenda.
    Every step those people take is better than the steps they DON'T take by going out to McDonalds for lunch or sitting at their desk.
    This was pretty much the only point you made that I somewhat agree with. Aside from that, I pretty much disagree with just about every point you made.
    You are ABSOLUTELY doing yourself a favour by walking, regardless of whether or not it's at 2.5mph and you check facebook while you do it.
    What are you comparing this to.......sitting on the couch, sitting at a desk, sitting in a coma?...........okay, then maybe I'll concede being somewhat wrong.
    Do you know in those 2 hours how many people step on one of the other treadmills, walk for 10 minutes and step off? TONS! Not once did I ever think that they were wasting space, they deserve the gym as much as I do and they can do whatever the hell they want.
    Not exactly sure what point you were trying to make with the first sentence, but okay, thanks for sharing. As far as your second sentence, I guess that makes you better than me for not having such thoughts.......congratulations.
    It's people like you that make it so incredibly difficult for people to start a healthy lifestyle. As if the gym isn't terrifying enough when you're new, now they have to worry that people think they aren't working hard enough once they are there?
    Once again, these are my internal grievances. I don't wear them on my shoulder for all to see. I'm not casting a judgmental scowl at them from across the gym. Why are they worrying about what I think? In the grand scheme, I am nobody to them, and in the end, they have no clue what I think.

    I appreciate your stance, but "agree to disagree" will have to be how I sign off. I'll continue to have my grievances (internally), that don't affect me and don't affect anybody I see at the gym, and you can continue to think that I am some kind of bully for simply expressing my mind in an open forum.

    The person walking 2 mph has just as much of a right to be on that treadmill as somebody running at 7 mph. I have just as much of a right to push 135 lbs in a squat rack as somebody who pushes 500.

    I'm not sure I ever said they don't have a right to be on it, so I too am in favor of people's rights. On the other hand, if that same person proclaims that they "exercise every day" and are frustrated because they just don't seem to be losing weight, that's where my pet peeve kicks in.............which is the main crux of my grievance that 3 of you so far have missed.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    TO THE OP:

    I hope you understand that taking the time to write ALL of those said "rules" out on MFP is a clear and blatant waste of time. Chances are, people will do what they please, even if you don't agree with it.

    I'm sorry to burst your bubble but that's just reality. It happens at every gym. If you have an issue with that, I suggest you workout in your own home where your rules will not be broken.

    considering several gym new goers replied to the thread you are already wrong….
    Oh really? Please explain because I would love to hear how i'm "wrong"? I'm all ears so go on.

    I'd say 3/4 of gym goers adhere to most of these rules. It's the few regulars and newbies that ruin it for the rest.

    lol says you. All the "noobs" (btw 12 year old boys going through puberty use that word) i've come across have been perfectly fine. I think you guys are being too judgmental and not focusing on your workout. You're also forgetting you and everyone on this post (*COUGH OP*) were newbies at one point so chill and give people a break.
    In case I wasn't clear their youngin, if someone's a noob and they step over my barbell when I'm deadlifting, or doing pendlays, it might hit their underbits, on porpoise.

    I think you mean Purpose. Porpoise is an animal. Just saying :)

    You missed "their" as well.

    I peppered that nusse with plenty little things like that.

    Flipper. Just saiyan.

    I used to live watching flipper when I was a kid.

    And yes, I just aged myself!

    I watched it all the time. It was a great show.
  • jeremywm1977
    jeremywm1977 Posts: 657 Member
    For further clarification of my point, for those who are challenged by reading everything within it's context, and then formulating a response based upon ALL of the information in front of them, I present the following math lesson:

    Walk on treadmill = I don't have a problem (regardless of your speed) + have fun

    Put forth half-*kitten* effort on treadmill + whine that you aren't meeting your goals = problem (although not a problem that I will blurt out without your asking, so please don't preoccupy yourself with what I am thinking)
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    For further clarification of my point, for those who are challenged by reading everything within it's context, and then formulating a response based upon ALL of the information in front of them, I present the following math lesson:
    For people who read what I wrote and then didn't immediately read my mind. I admonish you for not being Nostradamus, and able to translate something that is marginally related to english.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    For further clarification of my point, for those who are challenged by reading everything within it's context, and then formulating a response based upon ALL of the information in front of them, I present the following math lesson:

    Walk on treadmill = I don't have a problem (regardless of your speed) + have fun

    Put forth half-*kitten* effort on treadmill + whine that you aren't meeting your goals = problem (although not a problem that I will blurt out without your asking, so please don't preoccupy yourself with what I am thinking)

    I see guys in the free weights not lifting to their max. So what? It's just not that day. Deload or it's rep day vs low rep day.

    I don't see how one can put forth the effort you require when walking on the treadmill. Are they supposed to be at incline 100?

    Besides, guys complaining about treadmills.................
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    For further clarification of my point, for those who are challenged by reading everything within it's context, and then formulating a response based upon ALL of the information in front of them, I present the following math lesson:

    Walk on treadmill = I don't have a problem (regardless of your speed) + have fun

    Put forth half-*kitten* effort on treadmill + whine that you aren't meeting your goals = problem (although not a problem that I will blurt out without your asking, so please don't preoccupy yourself with what I am thinking)

    so if I am in the squat rack and squatting 225# but my max is 270# then I should not be in the squat rack???????

    and +2 to the comment about guys complaining about treadmills...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    I actually have a legit question as I have seen this mentioned a couple of times. Who wipes down weights after they use them?
    I do.

    I never police chalk up- not even off the bar- mostly because- we use chalk at the gym- there is an open bowl of it- it's free serve.

    Last week I did watch a guy make a really good effort to clean his blood off the bar- he barked his shins something fierce doing sumo pulls- so it was pretty effed up. I was (not impressed) I respected shall I say the fact that he cleaned up- that's a cleanliness courtesy issue- so it was nice to see it done.

    I honestly have never seen anyone wipe down a barbell after squatting or benching. Nor DBs for that matter tbh.

    nope- never- never seen anyone wipe down a bar- with the exception of blood- because well- that's just unsanitary to not clean it up- I mean- it's grooved- so I doubt you're going to get it honestly clean- but for phucks sake- try.

    sometimes, I wipe it with my towel just to wipe it ...but I really have no clue why I do that...
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    For further clarification of my point, for those who are challenged by reading everything within it's context, and then formulating a response based upon ALL of the information in front of them, I present the following math lesson:

    Walk on treadmill = I don't have a problem (regardless of your speed) + have fun

    Put forth half-*kitten* effort on treadmill + whine that you aren't meeting your goals = problem (although not a problem that I will blurt out without your asking, so please don't preoccupy yourself with what I am thinking)

    so if I am in the squat rack and squatting 225# but my max is 270# then I should not be in the squat rack???????

    and +2 to the comment about guys complaining about treadmills...

    Apparently, you can, but then you can't complain that you can't squat more. Or something.

  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    I actually have a legit question as I have seen this mentioned a couple of times. Who wipes down weights after they use them?
    I do.

    I never police chalk up- not even off the bar- mostly because- we use chalk at the gym- there is an open bowl of it- it's free serve.

    Last week I did watch a guy make a really good effort to clean his blood off the bar- he barked his shins something fierce doing sumo pulls- so it was pretty effed up. I was (not impressed) I respected shall I say the fact that he cleaned up- that's a cleanliness courtesy issue- so it was nice to see it done.

    I honestly have never seen anyone wipe down a barbell after squatting or benching. Nor DBs for that matter tbh.

    nope- never- never seen anyone wipe down a bar- with the exception of blood- because well- that's just unsanitary to not clean it up- I mean- it's grooved- so I doubt you're going to get it honestly clean- but for phucks sake- try.

    sometimes, I wipe it with my towel just to wipe it ...but I really have no clue why I do that...



    Hmmm... Now that you mention it, and I think about it, I have done that a few times. More when I'm done benching, because I have a towel wet with cleaner on it, but a time or two in the squat rack because why not?
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    TR0berts wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    For further clarification of my point, for those who are challenged by reading everything within it's context, and then formulating a response based upon ALL of the information in front of them, I present the following math lesson:

    Walk on treadmill = I don't have a problem (regardless of your speed) + have fun

    Put forth half-*kitten* effort on treadmill + whine that you aren't meeting your goals = problem (although not a problem that I will blurt out without your asking, so please don't preoccupy yourself with what I am thinking)

    so if I am in the squat rack and squatting 225# but my max is 270# then I should not be in the squat rack???????

    and +2 to the comment about guys complaining about treadmills...

    Apparently, you can, but then you can't complain that you can't squat more. Or something.

    Anastacia-Sokolova.gif

    I would totally tell her off if she complained about something. What were we talking about?
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    TR0berts wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    For further clarification of my point, for those who are challenged by reading everything within it's context, and then formulating a response based upon ALL of the information in front of them, I present the following math lesson:

    Walk on treadmill = I don't have a problem (regardless of your speed) + have fun

    Put forth half-*kitten* effort on treadmill + whine that you aren't meeting your goals = problem (although not a problem that I will blurt out without your asking, so please don't preoccupy yourself with what I am thinking)

    so if I am in the squat rack and squatting 225# but my max is 270# then I should not be in the squat rack???????

    and +2 to the comment about guys complaining about treadmills...

    Apparently, you can, but then you can't complain that you can't squat more. Or something.

    Anastacia-Sokolova.gif

    I would totally tell her off if she complained about something. What were we talking about?

    talk memorizing.....

    I always wanted a girl with an *kitten* like a bowl of jello....
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    I haven't been to the gym much this year but honestly I haven't noticed too many "infractions". Just more people in general. Mostly cardio peeps so I'm not too affected
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    Please, don't do your pseudo-MMA/shadow boxing moves and bodyweight circuit right in front of the dumbbell rack
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    For further clarification of my point, for those who are challenged by reading everything within it's context, and then formulating a response based upon ALL of the information in front of them, I present the following math lesson:

    Walk on treadmill = I don't have a problem (regardless of your speed) + have fun

    Put forth half-*kitten* effort on treadmill + whine that you aren't meeting your goals = problem (although not a problem that I will blurt out without your asking, so please don't preoccupy yourself with what I am thinking)

    honestly I don't even care if they aren't working.

    Full drag make up- ball gown lounge chair + book? go for it- drag that bad boy out and plop it right on down.

    But just don't be in MY way when I need to squat or do lunges.

    I honestly don't care what you wear- what you do- who you do- or how long it takes you you to do the thing at the gym.

    As long as you aren't holding me up with what ever that is... I'm okay.
  • uconnwinsnc1
    uconnwinsnc1 Posts: 902 Member
    TR0berts wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    For further clarification of my point, for those who are challenged by reading everything within it's context, and then formulating a response based upon ALL of the information in front of them, I present the following math lesson:

    Walk on treadmill = I don't have a problem (regardless of your speed) + have fun

    Put forth half-*kitten* effort on treadmill + whine that you aren't meeting your goals = problem (although not a problem that I will blurt out without your asking, so please don't preoccupy yourself with what I am thinking)

    so if I am in the squat rack and squatting 225# but my max is 270# then I should not be in the squat rack???????

    and +2 to the comment about guys complaining about treadmills...

    Apparently, you can, but then you can't complain that you can't squat more. Or something.

    Anastacia-Sokolova.gif

    I would totally tell her off if she complained about something. What were we talking about?
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  • jeremywm1977
    jeremywm1977 Posts: 657 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    For further clarification of my point, for those who are challenged by reading everything within it's context, and then formulating a response based upon ALL of the information in front of them, I present the following math lesson:
    For people who read what I wrote and then didn't immediately read my mind. I admonish you for not being Nostradamus, and able to translate something that is marginally related to english.

    My best response would be "Thanks?"

  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    I have a vent. I circuit train so I really can't complain too much. But last night two newbie lifters were just randomly lifting on different things. They were deracking stuff left and right and leaving their weights racked when done. One guy would so some odd squat for 1 set. Do something different. Then literally 25 min later do back and do that squat again. all while leaving whatever he had racked there.

    One guy deracked my 35s on my preacher. Well that's fine. I'm on a circuit. When he left to do whatever, I just added 25s on each side of the 10 and 5 he had on there and did a heavy set. Then I left it racked to see what he did. Of course he never came back. So after a while I just deracked all the weights and put them away. Frustrating
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Talk to management.

    There's no excuse for their staff not policing and correcting.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    Talk to management.

    There's no excuse for their staff not policing and correcting.

    One guy will be gone w/in a month. Other guy is a moron and I was pretty close to talking to him. He deracked my incline and did his set. Which is fine. He did one set. Then I just asked to work in and just added a few more weights to put it where I had it. The he said, "I'm done with it". I was like "one set??" Guy is young but he's more weird then a novice.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    I have a vent. I circuit train so I really can't complain too much. But last night two newbie lifters were just randomly lifting on different things. They were deracking stuff left and right and leaving their weights racked when done. One guy would so some odd squat for 1 set. Do something different. Then literally 25 min later do back and do that squat again. all while leaving whatever he had racked there.

    One guy deracked my 35s on my preacher. Well that's fine. I'm on a circuit. When he left to do whatever, I just added 25s on each side of the 10 and 5 he had on there and did a heavy set. Then I left it racked to see what he did. Of course he never came back. So after a while I just deracked all the weights and put them away. Frustrating

    When you were doing your circuit were you near the equipment they were deracking? When I picture this in my mind I see you across the room doing something when the guy walks in, sees the preacher with your 35s, which he thinks is going unused. He deracks it and adds what he needs, does his thing, and then leaves with his weights on because he thinks that's how you do it--there were plates on it when he got there so it must be okay to leave them on when he leaves. It depends on the level of newbie-ness (new to your gym? new to lifting in general?) because I can see your point but also see him thinking "when in Rome..." and leaving his plates on the equipment if he doesn't know the norm.

  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    yeah, if he's gone in a few weeks, I wouldn't worry too much then.

    Other guy might get stabby if he's weird. Only engage after upping life insurance policy.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    The stuff I need to get to is across the room. It's way too hard to do everything in one spot. Especially jump rope. I have to find a spot that's clear and away from everyone else. But I happened to be facing the incline when he deracked it.

    I hope when he came around again to do whatever else, he noticed the weights put away and thought "crap, I forgot to do that". Or better, "oh crap, he added more weight than I had on the bar in the first place" haha
  • runner475
    runner475 Posts: 1,236 Member
    I have a vent. I circuit train so I really can't complain too much. But last night two newbie lifters were just randomly lifting on different things. They were deracking stuff left and right and leaving their weights racked when done. One guy would so some odd squat for 1 set. Do something different. Then literally 25 min later do back and do that squat again. all while leaving whatever he had racked there.

    One guy deracked my 35s on my preacher. Well that's fine. I'm on a circuit. When he left to do whatever, I just added 25s on each side of the 10 and 5 he had on there and did a heavy set. Then I left it racked to see what he did. Of course he never came back. So after a while I just deracked all the weights and put them away. Frustrating


    Can you change your workout timings for some days? My experience - It's less crazy and less stupidity to deal with in the mornings.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    edited January 2015
    runner475 wrote: »
    I have a vent. I circuit train so I really can't complain too much. But last night two newbie lifters were just randomly lifting on different things. They were deracking stuff left and right and leaving their weights racked when done. One guy would so some odd squat for 1 set. Do something different. Then literally 25 min later do back and do that squat again. all while leaving whatever he had racked there.

    One guy deracked my 35s on my preacher. Well that's fine. I'm on a circuit. When he left to do whatever, I just added 25s on each side of the 10 and 5 he had on there and did a heavy set. Then I left it racked to see what he did. Of course he never came back. So after a while I just deracked all the weights and put them away. Frustrating


    Can you change your workout timings for some days? My experience - It's less crazy and less stupidity to deal with in the mornings.

    Last night was 8:30. My workout takes about 1.5 hours including some cardio. I can't get there any later as they close at 10pm

    Early mornings are a BEAR. I have to limit the time to an hour and I'm really rushing. I have to sacrifice some of my warm up time and my lifts suffer in the mornings. I CAN do it on the non-heavy days but on heavy bench, squat and dead days, no way.
  • runner475
    runner475 Posts: 1,236 Member
    Last night was 8:30. My workout takes about 1.5 hours including some cardio. I can't get there any later.

    Early mornings are a BEAR. I have to limit the time to an hour and I'm really rushing. I have to sacrifice some of my warm up time and my lifts suffer in the mornings. I CAN do it on the non-heavy days but on heavy bench, squat and dead days, no way.

    I'm just talking out loud here ...

    Comparing your workout plan to my training plan .....
    Heavy bench/squat/dead days to my long run day ...

    Can these be pushed over to the weekend (I think weekend afternoons are the best time) for sometime? Usually all this nonsense dies down by end of Jan.

    I agree it sucks.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    runner475 wrote: »
    Last night was 8:30. My workout takes about 1.5 hours including some cardio. I can't get there any later.

    Early mornings are a BEAR. I have to limit the time to an hour and I'm really rushing. I have to sacrifice some of my warm up time and my lifts suffer in the mornings. I CAN do it on the non-heavy days but on heavy bench, squat and dead days, no way.

    I'm just talking out loud here ...

    Comparing your workout plan to my training plan .....
    Heavy bench/squat/dead days to my long run day ...

    Can these be pushed over to the weekend (I think weekend afternoons are the best time) for sometime? Usually all this nonsense dies down by end of Jan.

    I agree it sucks.

    Yeah, I try to push one of the heavy lift days on the weekend because of this. I also run bball Wed and Fri. and doing a heavy lift the day after is hard because I'm sore as hell after ball.
  • Jozzmenia
    Jozzmenia Posts: 252 Member
    When you say rack your weights do you mean plates or dumbbells or both? seems obvious to rack dumbbells but i see some people leave plates and some put them back...
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