Vitamin D Effect On Weight Loss Study
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That is interesting, but I think there was another study I read that potentially correlates low vitamin D3 in children with an increased risk of type 1 diabetes (and/or vitamin D deficiency could be a precursor to type 1 diabetes development). It explains why instances of type 1 diabetes are higher in locations further from the equator compared to locations closer to it.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/02/140227115426.htm
Shockingly, I'm also vitamin D deficient, though I have no experienced easier weight loss by taking my prescribed supplement.
abatonfan thanks for that link. I had heard it mentioned by a speaker (youtube video) but not seen type 1 diabetes connection with a low level of Vit D3 in a research paper.
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ForecasterJason wrote: »If you suspect you're low on vitamin D (especially if you fit one of the descriptions that experts look at -- no time in the sun, etc.), I don't see anything wrong with taking a little. If you're not taking any other supplements that contain vitamin D, and you're not taking amounts over the upper limit (US government says 4000 IU for upper limit, although some other people will say more), you can't get dangerously high levels from taking small/moderate amounts.
yeah, i take 2000 IU's a day. i'm not too concerned by the ohnoes you're going to kill yourself if you're not careful crowd in here.0 -
I've been taking 5,000iu Vitamin D3 for about 15 months. I had blood work done after a year of supplementation because I wanted to be sure it didn't get too high.
Mine was 75 ng/ml that day, which is very good, according to my doctor, but not too high. She feels over 100 is too high, although the normal healthy range according to the lab printout is between 30 and 96.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21872808
I did not eat a supplement for 3 days prior to having blood work done in an effort to get a true reading.
I had to pay for the draw and the lab work on the Vitamin D because it is not part of a normal/necessary panel, btw. Just wanted to give people a heads up in case their insurance doesn't cover it.
I am going to continue taking 5,000iu of D3 capsules. I am 64 and post menopausal.
I have lost weight since taking D3 but I've been seriously counting calories. This is the only supplement of any kind I take.
Oh, I just thought of something else in relation to a post ^^. My calcium level is 9.1 mg/dl and I do not supplement calcium or magnesium. Potassium was also in "normal" range of 4.4.
I have no interest in taking vitamin or mineral supplements for the most part, hoping to get what I need from my diet. But living where I do where the UVA benefits from the sun are zilch for almost half the year, I decided to supplement Vit D3.
I wish I would have tested myself before I began taking the D3. Hindsight and all that.
The test used was 25-hydroxy vitamin D test, btw.
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So because you know some people in your area that are Vitamin D deficient does that mean all areas have that problem?many people in my area of the country ARE deficient in vitamin d if they are not taking it in some sort of supplement. FACT
It's not a "Fact" because we don't actually know what the "right" amount is. It varies tremendously between individuals and is affected by everything from geography to fitness levels to diet to mood to time of year.
"FACT."
well, we have an idea of the range. FACT
i was deficient. FACT
i lost weight after taking vitamin D supplements. FACT
I also love the amount of emotion you post with.
i said my area has that problem, not all areas.
What is the % of people in your area that are deficient? How many people are in your area?
who cares
Well you are making the claim that many of the people in your area have the problem so I'd like to see the data backing up that claim. So its not who cares, it's relevant. And how would I look it up if I don't know what area in the country to research?
manhattan
Interesting because I've lived in Manhattan, I live 10 minutes from Manhattan now and I still have a slew of family members and friends that still do live in Manhattan and guess what? None of them are Vitamin D deficient. Also, I used your friend Google and your claim was unfounded.
i bet my claim was founded and you're lying. i also know tons of people who ARE deficient in vitamin D in manhattan.
oh god, don't run into me on the street.-5 -
lol at "NONE". that is a blatant lie, unless you don't actually talk to anyone.-6
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a quick google search says that up to 3/4ths of americans are vitamin d deficient, but okay at claiming you know NOBODY.0
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I worked night shift for years and wondered why I was always exhausted and barely getting by on tons of coffee. I started taking Vitamin D every day, and I have much more energy now. It has helped me lose weight in that I have more energy to be active and workout. I don't want to just stay in bed all day on my days off any more. I can very much tell the difference when I forget to take it. I am switching to dayshift this year, so maybe I won't need it any more, but for now, I still do. I also work inside all day, so still don't get much sun, and usually it is dark out when I go into, and leave work, because I work 12 hour shifts.0
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lol at "NONE". that is a blatant lie, unless you don't actually talk to anyone.
Really? Because I have grown up with them. It's not some family you see every 10 years. Also I worked for a hospital in Manhattan and still currently do work for one, one of the largest health systems in the city, responding to 911 emergencies. I deal with patient medical histories all day every day as part of my job. Ask me how often I come across people that are Vitamin D deficient.
Also, go ahead and post the evidence that you have that people in "our" area are vit D deficient. I found nothing. You claim iit's easy to find so provide the supporting evidence.
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ForecasterJason wrote: »If you suspect you're low on vitamin D (especially if you fit one of the descriptions that experts look at -- no time in the sun, etc.), I don't see anything wrong with taking a little. If you're not taking any other supplements that contain vitamin D, and you're not taking amounts over the upper limit (US government says 4000 IU for upper limit, although some other people will say more), you can't get dangerously high levels from taking small/moderate amounts.
mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/vitamin-d-toxicity/faq-20058108
"Taking 50,000 international units (IU) a day of vitamin D for several months has been shown to cause toxicity."
ForecasterJason while the above is talking maxing out on Vit D3 another doctor speaking at a convention I watched said taking no more than 20K units daily would not led to too high of levels. But in the above article it talks about a build up in cases with failing kidney issues for example. Because people may be at risk for many other critical health issues if they have low Vit D3 it would be best to get a doctor to do a work up with Vit D levels. It seems to take up to a year to get levels up per some.
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one of the first links in a google search says most people are deficient in it. it's not that difficult to find, unless you're lying.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/27/health/27brod.html0 -
lol at "NONE". that is a blatant lie, unless you don't actually talk to anyone.
Really? Because I have grown up with them. It's not some family you see every 10 years. Also I worked for a hospital in Manhattan and still currently do work for one, one of the largest health systems in the city, responding to 911 emergencies. I deal with patient medical histories all day every day as part of my job. Ask me how often I come across people that are Vitamin D deficient.
Also, go ahead and post the evidence that you have that people in "our" area are vit D deficient. I found nothing. You claim iit's easy to find so provide the supporting evidence.
then you are just lying. thanks for playing.
Oh really? That's the line you're going with? I guess it's safe to say you decided to make up FACTS in order to make your stance better. Now that you can't provide the proof, to someone that lives in your own area, you are claiming someone is making stuff up. Why am I not surprised.
did you provide links to say that i'm wrong and we are all great on vitamin d in nyc? didn't see any.
you just babbled about being in the medical field. uh okay.-3 -
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I have been taking vitamin D3 for years. I had my Doctor measure it after taking it for a year and it was in the ballpark on the high side, that means it was probably low before I started taking it. I live in MI and you definitely need it here. BTW I don't think it was the reason I lost weight, counting calories and working at it was.0
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An alternate perspective...
http://blog.grasslandbeef.com/the-vitamin-d-scam"In the 1930's, seeing great profit potential in sunshine hormones, Big Pharma went to work manufacturing a copy cat. In that pursuit, they narrowed the scope of our sunshine hormones and postulated that it was a single isolate that was responsible for the vast, biological benefits of sunshine.""Vitamin D is not really a vitamin," wrote scientists for the New England Journal of Medicine. For something to be a vitamin, it should provide the body with an essential nutrient that it cannot make on its own, but requires for survival.Since synthetic vitamin D is a drug, foreign to the body, and not required for survival, it's technically a fraud - an impostor posing as a vitamin.Once swallowed, the copycat hormone bypasses our innate protective mechanisms and throws hormonal balance out of whack.Promotion for the drug disguised as a vitamin is "business as usual" for the drug, food, and vitamin industries: They work together to instill fear and confusion designed to blur the lines between synthetic and natural. And they've done it with a "deficiency hypothesis" that has everyone regurgitating their "25-hydroxy vitamin D" levels in an attempt to avoid rickets, infection, cancer and even a bad haircut, so it seems.The anti-cancer statements come direct from short term trials performed by "advisors" to Big Pharma and published in the top nutrition journals! Worse, the trials only show a small statistical association of low cancer rates among vitamin D users over about a 5 year period. This is plain silly.Cancer takes more than 5 years to develop. Even heavy smokers can survive 5 years without a cancer diagnosis, but we know cigarettes are a real threat. Thus, any study on cancer lasting five years has very little value. This same scheme was used by the cigarette industry to erroneously thwart off the cancer claims in the early 1970's. Now it's being used to pretend vitamin D staves off cancer. It's a con, and long term vitamin D studies (which are being ignored) show just the opposite (just like they did with cigarettes, of course).0 -
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lol at "NONE". that is a blatant lie, unless you don't actually talk to anyone.
Really? Because I have grown up with them. It's not some family you see every 10 years. Also I worked for a hospital in Manhattan and still currently do work for one, one of the largest health systems in the city, responding to 911 emergencies. I deal with patient medical histories all day every day as part of my job. Ask me how often I come across people that are Vitamin D deficient.
Also, go ahead and post the evidence that you have that people in "our" area are vit D deficient. I found nothing. You claim iit's easy to find so provide the supporting evidence.
then you are just lying. thanks for playing.
Oh really? That's the line you're going with? I guess it's safe to say you decided to make up FACTS in order to make your stance better. Now that you can't provide the proof, to someone that lives in your own area, you are claiming someone is making stuff up. Why am I not surprised.
did you provide links to say that i'm wrong and we are all great on vitamin d in nyc? didn't see any.
you just babbled about being in the medical field. uh okay.
I'm just wondering how someone would know people weren't deficient in Vit D when they don't routinely test for it? I mean, I was a paramedic for 10 yrs, but I wouldn't claim to know how many of my patients were calcium deficient...0 -
lol at "NONE". that is a blatant lie, unless you don't actually talk to anyone.
Really? Because I have grown up with them. It's not some family you see every 10 years. Also I worked for a hospital in Manhattan and still currently do work for one, one of the largest health systems in the city, responding to 911 emergencies. I deal with patient medical histories all day every day as part of my job. Ask me how often I come across people that are Vitamin D deficient.
Also, go ahead and post the evidence that you have that people in "our" area are vit D deficient. I found nothing. You claim iit's easy to find so provide the supporting evidence.
then you are just lying. thanks for playing.
Oh really? That's the line you're going with? I guess it's safe to say you decided to make up FACTS in order to make your stance better. Now that you can't provide the proof, to someone that lives in your own area, you are claiming someone is making stuff up. Why am I not surprised.
did you provide links to say that i'm wrong and we are all great on vitamin d in nyc? didn't see any.
you just babbled about being in the medical field. uh okay.
I have to provide evidence that we aren't vit D deficient? Lol. Oh man, you really are bad at debating.
i posted an article. did you miss it?0 -
My Doctor has no problem with my taking Vitamin D3, she did want to see my levels though and agreed with me that since taking it for a year put me on the high side of normal range, I probably needed it. That said, I think there are 5 words everybody who wants to lose weight and keep it off should take to heart, those 5 words are, "There is no magic bullet". Use what helps you, and count your calories and work out, the end.An alternate perspective...
http://blog.grasslandbeef.com/the-vitamin-d-scam"In the 1930's, seeing great profit potential in sunshine hormones, Big Pharma went to work manufacturing a copy cat. In that pursuit, they narrowed the scope of our sunshine hormones and postulated that it was a single isolate that was responsible for the vast, biological benefits of sunshine.""Vitamin D is not really a vitamin," wrote scientists for the New England Journal of Medicine. For something to be a vitamin, it should provide the body with an essential nutrient that it cannot make on its own, but requires for survival.Since synthetic vitamin D is a drug, foreign to the body, and not required for survival, it's technically a fraud - an impostor posing as a vitamin.Once swallowed, the copycat hormone bypasses our innate protective mechanisms and throws hormonal balance out of whack.Promotion for the drug disguised as a vitamin is "business as usual" for the drug, food, and vitamin industries: They work together to instill fear and confusion designed to blur the lines between synthetic and natural. And they've done it with a "deficiency hypothesis" that has everyone regurgitating their "25-hydroxy vitamin D" levels in an attempt to avoid rickets, infection, cancer and even a bad haircut, so it seems.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15942551 plenty of deficiency in Maine0
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lol at "NONE". that is a blatant lie, unless you don't actually talk to anyone.
Really? Because I have grown up with them. It's not some family you see every 10 years. Also I worked for a hospital in Manhattan and still currently do work for one, one of the largest health systems in the city, responding to 911 emergencies. I deal with patient medical histories all day every day as part of my job. Ask me how often I come across people that are Vitamin D deficient.
Also, go ahead and post the evidence that you have that people in "our" area are vit D deficient. I found nothing. You claim iit's easy to find so provide the supporting evidence.
So you are on an ambulance all day, just like I was. And you say none of your patients' medical histories included Vit D deficiency. Funny, that was never something I was really concerned about during an emergency. Did you ask any of those people if they had even been tested for it? Did you personally see their bloodwork?
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I had bloodwork done last October and discovered that I was Vitamin D deficient. I knew I was borderline, so I was taking 400 IU along with my other supplements. I told my doctor and she very tactfully informed me that while that might have helped a bit, my daily dosage actually needs to be between 5,000-10,000 IU. Oops. I don't have an amazing weight loss correlation to share, but have noticed an uptick in my energy levels, and it's definitely helping with depression/SAD this season.
Haven't been very consistent about taking my supplements in the last couple of weeks, but this thread and the link OP provided prompted me to go take today's dose!0 -
Here's another article, from the same source...
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/01/the-miracle-of-vitamin-d-sound-science-or-hype/But don’t start gobbling down vitamin D supplements just yet. The excitement about their health potential is still far ahead of the science.
Although numerous studies have been promising, there are scant data from randomized clinical trials. Little is known about what the ideal level of vitamin D really is, whether raising it can improve health, and what potential side effects are caused by high doses.
Oh dear...
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lol at "NONE". that is a blatant lie, unless you don't actually talk to anyone.
Really? Because I have grown up with them. It's not some family you see every 10 years. Also I worked for a hospital in Manhattan and still currently do work for one, one of the largest health systems in the city, responding to 911 emergencies. I deal with patient medical histories all day every day as part of my job. Ask me how often I come across people that are Vitamin D deficient.
Also, go ahead and post the evidence that you have that people in "our" area are vit D deficient. I found nothing. You claim iit's easy to find so provide the supporting evidence.
then you are just lying. thanks for playing.
Oh really? That's the line you're going with? I guess it's safe to say you decided to make up FACTS in order to make your stance better. Now that you can't provide the proof, to someone that lives in your own area, you are claiming someone is making stuff up. Why am I not surprised.
did you provide links to say that i'm wrong and we are all great on vitamin d in nyc? didn't see any.
you just babbled about being in the medical field. uh okay.
I'm just wondering how someone would know people weren't deficient in Vit D when they don't routinely test for it? I mean, I was a paramedic for 10 yrs, but I wouldn't claim to know how many of my patients were calcium deficient...
If that's the line you're taking then how would an article know many of the people in the area are Vit D deficient without having them tested?
Nice you see you make an appearance in my debate. You must have missed me
LOL I didn't know this entire thread was "your debate." But I always see you claiming to know stuff just because you work "in the medical field," and I think you should back up your claims once in a while.0 -
Either ask to be tested, or take it for a time (at least 6 months) up until your physical then tell your Doctor, if they are any decent Doctor at that point they will check it. I did that to my Doctor 7 years ago after I had been taking it for a year. She checked it for a few years, then stopped because it was always in range, and on the high side is not bad. You do want to be careful because Vitamin D is fat soluble not water soluble meaning you can overdose, that said, I don't think it is easy, I take 5,000 IU/day.lol at "NONE". that is a blatant lie, unless you don't actually talk to anyone.
Really? Because I have grown up with them. It's not some family you see every 10 years. Also I worked for a hospital in Manhattan and still currently do work for one, one of the largest health systems in the city, responding to 911 emergencies. I deal with patient medical histories all day every day as part of my job. Ask me how often I come across people that are Vitamin D deficient.
Also, go ahead and post the evidence that you have that people in "our" area are vit D deficient. I found nothing. You claim iit's easy to find so provide the supporting evidence.
then you are just lying. thanks for playing.
Oh really? That's the line you're going with? I guess it's safe to say you decided to make up FACTS in order to make your stance better. Now that you can't provide the proof, to someone that lives in your own area, you are claiming someone is making stuff up. Why am I not surprised.
did you provide links to say that i'm wrong and we are all great on vitamin d in nyc? didn't see any.
you just babbled about being in the medical field. uh okay.
I'm just wondering how someone would know people weren't deficient in Vit D when they don't routinely test for it? I mean, I was a paramedic for 10 yrs, but I wouldn't claim to know how many of my patients were calcium deficient...
If that's the line you're taking then how would an article know many of the people in the area are Vit D deficient without having them tested?
Nice you see you make an appearance in my debate. You must have missed me
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here ya go. specifically states that states above the 37th latitude are more at risk for vitamin d deficiency.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsweek/time-for-more-vitamin-d.htm0
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