Define "healthy" food...

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  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,009 Member
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19704096/

    Added sugars are not inherently bad... excessive added sugars can be bad...
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    What confuses me, however, is the constant battle about it. Do you really care that my gauge *for me* is whether it advances *my* overall health and weight loss efforts, and so for me I think m&m's are not healthy?

    I care because you hurt little M&M's feelings he cant help it his candy coating has made him unhealthy and sick. He tries to make up for it by putting a little peanut inside, but he just never gets the credit like his big brother chickpea who gets all the kuddos for being able to go into pita bread
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    If you use words like outrageous, you should be able to back them up.

    Strong logic!!
    Yes, it is. Thanks.

    I see sensing sarcasm is not a strong point of yours.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    PRMinx wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    So if I get 500 to 600 calories from ice cream and cookies to fill in my diet, does that make me less healthy than the person that is getting 75% of their calories from fish, rice, and vegetables?

    Yes. Just look at the ingredient list.

    Where your nutrients, fat, carbs, etc. are coming from do matter.

    oh really??? care to elaborate?

    so if my macors are 35p/35c/30 fats and I hit them all with eggs, chicken, rice, bread, etc and then filled in rest of day with ice cream and some cookies, you are saying that is an unhealthy day just because I got 500 - 600 from ice cream and cookies...really?

    As I said, look at the ingredients. That is, unless you're going with organic or natural. It's not necessarily the food itself that's the problem. Food colorings and artificial flavors? Preservatives and other chemicals they put in a lot of foods? No thank you.


    First, all food has "chemicals" so unless you are drinking pure water you are ingesting *gasp* chemiclas.
    You're missing it. If you saw the post I made earlier about the ingredients in Dominoes pizza, maybe it'd be easier for you to understand her point.

    That post you made actually made no sense. All you did was list ingredients in a pizza and pick what you thought was unhealthy. Which there was absolutely no reason why it would have been healthy.

    If he's referencing the post I think, he posted the ingredients of something like Dominos and then posted the ingredients of his homemade versions. Then went on to explain why his was healthier than the other (IN HIS OPINION)

    Exactly. Where he said full-fat mozzarella was bad, but never explained why...

    He didn't explain the full fat thing but he explained the other reasons. I'd agree if the cheese contained transfats but other than that, I haven't made enemies of fat
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    At not wasting my time providing links to people who have no genuine interest in them? Actually, I'm pretty good at that.

    But I do have a genuine interest.
    If you did, you would research the issue yourself. It's really not that hard. You obviously have internet access. If you don't care enough to research it, why should I do it for you?

    Then why did you offer. Again, seems disingenuous.

    Also...lulz at the google weak google it yourself ploy. You realize that people can see right through that right? Right?
    I think she was calling your bluff. You claimed to have a "genuine interest", but you didn't.

    If you were genuinely interested in anything, you would seek out knowledge on the subject and wouldn't even limit yourself to the Internet, much less a discussion board.

    If you do not have enough interest to seek out information on your own, there really is no reason someone else to provide you with it.

    If you want to learn, go learn. Nobody can stop you.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    So if I get 500 to 600 calories from ice cream and cookies to fill in my diet, does that make me less healthy than the person that is getting 75% of their calories from fish, rice, and vegetables?

    Yes. Just look at the ingredient list.

    Where your nutrients, fat, carbs, etc. are coming from do matter.

    oh really??? care to elaborate?

    so if my macors are 35p/35c/30 fats and I hit them all with eggs, chicken, rice, bread, etc and then filled in rest of day with ice cream and some cookies, you are saying that is an unhealthy day just because I got 500 - 600 from ice cream and cookies...really?

    As I said, look at the ingredients. That is, unless you're going with organic or natural. It's not necessarily the food itself that's the problem. Food colorings and artificial flavors? Preservatives and other chemicals they put in a lot of foods? No thank you.


    First, all food has "chemicals" so unless you are drinking pure water you are ingesting *gasp* chemiclas.
    You're missing it. If you saw the post I made earlier about the ingredients in Dominoes pizza, maybe it'd be easier for you to understand her point.

    That post you made actually made no sense. All you did was list ingredients in a pizza and pick what you thought was unhealthy. Which there was absolutely no reason why it would have been healthy.

    But could you pronounce it? That's what determines unhealthiness.
  • MoiAussi93
    MoiAussi93 Posts: 1,948 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    I see sensing sarcasm is not a strong point of yours.
    Oh, it is.

  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Serah87 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    No-one is suggesting that a can of coke is as healthy as a bowl of raw kale.

    Are you sure? It sure seems like some are.

    No....what people are saying is having a can of coke with a bowl of stew, that has veggies and proteins in it, is not considered unhealthy as I met all my macs and micros for the day, if I have room I will fit ice cream or a cookie or whatever.

    Some are, but some are saying both are equally heatlhy foods becasue they both can be part of an overall healthy diet. They can't seem to separate the terms.

    Well, in that context, then I cannot see that it is incorrect statement.

    Niether do I. I just think it's a cop-out.

    I'm 300 calories under my goal and zombies are getting ready to chase me. I have the choice of 300 calories of kale before I go or 300 calories of sugar...which do I eat? Sugar...it's faster releasing and keeps me from getting ate by zombies, therefore, sugar is healthier than kale in that instance....BOOM! BOOYAH!!

    Totally off point and untrue.

    How is it untrue?

    Zombies are not about to chase him.
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    PRMinx wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    So if I get 500 to 600 calories from ice cream and cookies to fill in my diet, does that make me less healthy than the person that is getting 75% of their calories from fish, rice, and vegetables?

    Yes. Just look at the ingredient list.

    Where your nutrients, fat, carbs, etc. are coming from do matter.

    oh really??? care to elaborate?

    so if my macors are 35p/35c/30 fats and I hit them all with eggs, chicken, rice, bread, etc and then filled in rest of day with ice cream and some cookies, you are saying that is an unhealthy day just because I got 500 - 600 from ice cream and cookies...really?

    As I said, look at the ingredients. That is, unless you're going with organic or natural. It's not necessarily the food itself that's the problem. Food colorings and artificial flavors? Preservatives and other chemicals they put in a lot of foods? No thank you.


    First, all food has "chemicals" so unless you are drinking pure water you are ingesting *gasp* chemiclas.
    You're missing it. If you saw the post I made earlier about the ingredients in Dominoes pizza, maybe it'd be easier for you to understand her point.

    That post you made actually made no sense. All you did was list ingredients in a pizza and pick what you thought was unhealthy. Which there was absolutely no reason why it would have been healthy.

    If he's referencing the post I think, he posted the ingredients of something like Dominos and then posted the ingredients of his homemade versions. Then went on to explain why his was healthier than the other (IN HIS OPINION)

    Exactly. Where he said full-fat mozzarella was bad, but never explained why...

    He didn't explain the full fat thing but he explained the other reasons. I'd agree if the cheese contained transfats but other than that, I haven't made enemies of fat

    There's nothing inherently wrong with fresh, full-fat mozzarella. I understand he doesn't use it so that he can make room for other dietary fats in his pizza, but it isn't unhealthy which is the impression he left earlier.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    So if I get 500 to 600 calories from ice cream and cookies to fill in my diet, does that make me less healthy than the person that is getting 75% of their calories from fish, rice, and vegetables?

    Yes. Just look at the ingredient list.

    Where your nutrients, fat, carbs, etc. are coming from do matter.

    oh really??? care to elaborate?

    so if my macors are 35p/35c/30 fats and I hit them all with eggs, chicken, rice, bread, etc and then filled in rest of day with ice cream and some cookies, you are saying that is an unhealthy day just because I got 500 - 600 from ice cream and cookies...really?

    As I said, look at the ingredients. That is, unless you're going with organic or natural. It's not necessarily the food itself that's the problem. Food colorings and artificial flavors? Preservatives and other chemicals they put in a lot of foods? No thank you.


    First, all food has "chemicals" so unless you are drinking pure water you are ingesting *gasp* chemiclas.
    You're missing it. If you saw the post I made earlier about the ingredients in Dominoes pizza, maybe it'd be easier for you to understand her point.

    That post you made actually made no sense. All you did was list ingredients in a pizza and pick what you thought was unhealthy. Which there was absolutely no reason why it would have been healthy.
    It's called ingredients that do not have a place in pizza.

    Interesting, I wasn't aware that there was a rule on what belongs in a pizza.

    There should be. Pepperoni - NO, pineapple - yes.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    At not wasting my time providing links to people who have no genuine interest in them? Actually, I'm pretty good at that.

    But I do have a genuine interest.
    If you did, you would research the issue yourself. It's really not that hard. You obviously have internet access. If you don't care enough to research it, why should I do it for you?

    Then why did you offer. Again, seems disingenuous.

    Also...lulz at the google weak google it yourself ploy. You realize that people can see right through that right? Right?
    I think she was calling your bluff. You claimed to have a "genuine interest", but you didn't.

    If you were genuinely interested in anything, you would seek out knowledge on the subject and wouldn't even limit yourself to the Internet, much less a discussion board.

    If you do not have enough interest to seek out information on your own, there really is no reason someone else to provide you with it.

    If you want to learn, go learn. Nobody can stop you.


    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

    You realize who you're responding to, right?
  • prattiger65
    prattiger65 Posts: 1,657 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    At not wasting my time providing links to people who have no genuine interest in them? Actually, I'm pretty good at that.

    But I do have a genuine interest.
    If you did, you would research the issue yourself. It's really not that hard. You obviously have internet access. If you don't care enough to research it, why should I do it for you?

    Then why did you offer. Again, seems disingenuous.

    Also...lulz at the google weak google it yourself ploy. You realize that people can see right through that right? Right?
    I think she was calling your bluff. You claimed to have a "genuine interest", but you didn't.

    If you were genuinely interested in anything, you would seek out knowledge on the subject and wouldn't even limit yourself to the Internet, much less a discussion board.

    If you do not have enough interest to seek out information on your own, there really is no reason someone else to provide you with it.

    If you want to learn, go learn. Nobody can stop you.

    I am going to step out here and say,. She already knows and would like the other poster to elaborate.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Serah87 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    No-one is suggesting that a can of coke is as healthy as a bowl of raw kale.

    Are you sure? It sure seems like some are.

    No....what people are saying is having a can of coke with a bowl of stew, that has veggies and proteins in it, is not considered unhealthy as I met all my macs and micros for the day, if I have room I will fit ice cream or a cookie or whatever.

    Some are, but some are saying both are equally heatlhy foods becasue they both can be part of an overall healthy diet. They can't seem to separate the terms.

    Well, in that context, then I cannot see that it is incorrect statement.

    Niether do I. I just think it's a cop-out.

    I'm 300 calories under my goal and zombies are getting ready to chase me. I have the choice of 300 calories of kale before I go or 300 calories of sugar...which do I eat? Sugar...it's faster releasing and keeps me from getting ate by zombies, therefore, sugar is healthier than kale in that instance....BOOM! BOOYAH!!

    Totally off point and untrue.

    How is it untrue?

    Zombies are not about to chase him.


    Oh, ok then. You are probably right that the untrue thing is the assumption that zombies are going to chase him. Although, it seems an odd thing to say, because most people realize that zombies aren't in fact, about to chase him without having it explained.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    I see sensing sarcasm is not a strong point of yours.
    Oh, it is.

    Well, you kinda missed it there then.
  • MoiAussi93
    MoiAussi93 Posts: 1,948 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Well, you kinda missed it there then.
    Not at all.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Serah87 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    No-one is suggesting that a can of coke is as healthy as a bowl of raw kale.

    Are you sure? It sure seems like some are.

    No....what people are saying is having a can of coke with a bowl of stew, that has veggies and proteins in it, is not considered unhealthy as I met all my macs and micros for the day, if I have room I will fit ice cream or a cookie or whatever.

    Some are, but some are saying both are equally heatlhy foods becasue they both can be part of an overall healthy diet. They can't seem to separate the terms.

    Well, in that context, then I cannot see that it is incorrect statement.

    Niether do I. I just think it's a cop-out.

    I'm 300 calories under my goal and zombies are getting ready to chase me. I have the choice of 300 calories of kale before I go or 300 calories of sugar...which do I eat? Sugar...it's faster releasing and keeps me from getting ate by zombies, therefore, sugar is healthier than kale in that instance....BOOM! BOOYAH!!

    Totally off point and untrue.

    How is it untrue?

    Zombies are not about to chase him.

    is what they want you to believe...
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    jofjltncb6 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    So if I get 500 to 600 calories from ice cream and cookies to fill in my diet, does that make me less healthy than the person that is getting 75% of their calories from fish, rice, and vegetables?

    Yes. Just look at the ingredient list.

    Where your nutrients, fat, carbs, etc. are coming from do matter.

    you do realize you don't get bonus points for hitting macros right?

    also good luck trying to bulk one day on that type of food.

    I did it...in 2012...but it wasn't easy...and so much damn eating. My fat macros were really high to help me get there though...like 40-50% some days. (My food diary in 2012 is kind of comical.) 20 pounds over the course of nearly a year.

    Not anything like my current bulk where I've added ~20 pounds in about four months. So much easier and more efficient.

    I think I remember you mentioning that a while back- you went like all dirty for your cut- and low carb clean for your bulk??

    LOL- so silly now to look back- so much extra work!! LOL

    Wait wait wait...it wasn't low-carb clean bulk. It was moderate-carb clean bulk. But yeah, I did it completely backwards...not on purpose, but I had already cut (to 150ishLOL) in 2011 eating "normal" foods and then discovered paleo in 2012 and decided to eat like a grown-*kitten* man bulk for a while. Decided paleo wasn't worth the effort, so dropped it just in time for the next cut.

    So. Much. Food.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    So if I get 500 to 600 calories from ice cream and cookies to fill in my diet, does that make me less healthy than the person that is getting 75% of their calories from fish, rice, and vegetables?

    Yes. Just look at the ingredient list.

    Where your nutrients, fat, carbs, etc. are coming from do matter.

    oh really??? care to elaborate?

    so if my macors are 35p/35c/30 fats and I hit them all with eggs, chicken, rice, bread, etc and then filled in rest of day with ice cream and some cookies, you are saying that is an unhealthy day just because I got 500 - 600 from ice cream and cookies...really?

    As I said, look at the ingredients. That is, unless you're going with organic or natural. It's not necessarily the food itself that's the problem. Food colorings and artificial flavors? Preservatives and other chemicals they put in a lot of foods? No thank you.


    First, all food has "chemicals" so unless you are drinking pure water you are ingesting *gasp* chemiclas.
    You're missing it. If you saw the post I made earlier about the ingredients in Dominoes pizza, maybe it'd be easier for you to understand her point.

    That post you made actually made no sense. All you did was list ingredients in a pizza and pick what you thought was unhealthy. Which there was absolutely no reason why it would have been healthy.
    It's called ingredients that do not have a place in pizza.

    Interesting, I wasn't aware that there was a rule on what belongs in a pizza.

    There should be. Pepperoni - NO, pineapple - yes.

    I'm staging a revolution if the pizza ruling says no pepperoni
  • I generally agree with the OP's logic however I will say that I think what foods you eat does come into play a little. You could theoretically lose just as much weight eating 1400 calories of deep fried twinkies a day as you would eating 1400 calories of vegetables, but I think it might be healthier overall to eat the veggies.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    So if I get 500 to 600 calories from ice cream and cookies to fill in my diet, does that make me less healthy than the person that is getting 75% of their calories from fish, rice, and vegetables?

    Yes. Just look at the ingredient list.

    Where your nutrients, fat, carbs, etc. are coming from do matter.

    oh really??? care to elaborate?

    so if my macors are 35p/35c/30 fats and I hit them all with eggs, chicken, rice, bread, etc and then filled in rest of day with ice cream and some cookies, you are saying that is an unhealthy day just because I got 500 - 600 from ice cream and cookies...really?

    As I said, look at the ingredients. That is, unless you're going with organic or natural. It's not necessarily the food itself that's the problem. Food colorings and artificial flavors? Preservatives and other chemicals they put in a lot of foods? No thank you.


    First, all food has "chemicals" so unless you are drinking pure water you are ingesting *gasp* chemiclas.
    You're missing it. If you saw the post I made earlier about the ingredients in Dominoes pizza, maybe it'd be easier for you to understand her point.

    That post you made actually made no sense. All you did was list ingredients in a pizza and pick what you thought was unhealthy. Which there was absolutely no reason why it would have been healthy.
    It's called ingredients that do not have a place in pizza.

    Interesting, I wasn't aware that there was a rule on what belongs in a pizza.

    There should be. Pepperoni - NO, pineapple - yes.

    you're saying pepperoni doesn't belong on a pizza- but pineapple does?

    At no point- outside of sauce- does fruit belong on a pizza.

    Ever.

    Yuck. no.

    meat- cheese- sauce.
    yes.
    fruit? nope nope nope.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    TR0berts wrote: »
    jofjltncb6 wrote: »
    JoyeII wrote: »
    Calcium, iron, Vitamins A, D, K, E, etc. are naturally occurring parts of nutrition in whole, unprocessed foods. You aren't going to find those quality micronutrients in pizza, ice cream, funnel cakes, candy bars, soda, etc. And, even if you do get some micronutrients in the ingredients used to make those foods, you will also get a huge dose of sodium (implicated in high blood pressure), saturated fats (implicated in cardiovascular diseases) and sugar (which has a whole slew of diet related health issues attributed with it).

    A bonus: what sort of education or research do you have to assert this position? I'd love to know.

    What's the difference between eating some ice cream or having a yogurt?

    Depending on the situation, it can be significant IMO. Comparing some commercial brands of ice-cream with homemade yogurt would yield a good bit of differences, IMO. Homemade yogurt can be loaded with probiotics, added sugar does not have to be as high as in commercial ice-cream, and it is also lower in lactose.

    In that case, next we should compare some commercial brands of yogurt with homemade ice cream...because cherry-picking is so persuasive.



    dude... what page are you on. That was like, so last hour or two.

    So many posts. I'm beginning to think that some of you aren't even reading all of the posts before posting.
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    So if I get 500 to 600 calories from ice cream and cookies to fill in my diet, does that make me less healthy than the person that is getting 75% of their calories from fish, rice, and vegetables?

    Yes. Just look at the ingredient list.

    Where your nutrients, fat, carbs, etc. are coming from do matter.

    oh really??? care to elaborate?

    so if my macors are 35p/35c/30 fats and I hit them all with eggs, chicken, rice, bread, etc and then filled in rest of day with ice cream and some cookies, you are saying that is an unhealthy day just because I got 500 - 600 from ice cream and cookies...really?

    As I said, look at the ingredients. That is, unless you're going with organic or natural. It's not necessarily the food itself that's the problem. Food colorings and artificial flavors? Preservatives and other chemicals they put in a lot of foods? No thank you.


    First, all food has "chemicals" so unless you are drinking pure water you are ingesting *gasp* chemiclas.
    You're missing it. If you saw the post I made earlier about the ingredients in Dominoes pizza, maybe it'd be easier for you to understand her point.

    That post you made actually made no sense. All you did was list ingredients in a pizza and pick what you thought was unhealthy. Which there was absolutely no reason why it would have been healthy.
    It's called ingredients that do not have a place in pizza.

    Interesting, I wasn't aware that there was a rule on what belongs in a pizza.

    There should be. Pepperoni - NO, pineapple - yes.

    you're saying pepperoni doesn't belong on a pizza- but pineapple does?

    At no point- outside of sauce- does fruit belong on a pizza.

    Ever.

    Yuck. no.

    meat- cheese- sauce.
    yes.
    fruit? nope nope nope.

    LOL. I like pineapple on my pizza. With pepperoni.

    *duck*
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    So if I get 500 to 600 calories from ice cream and cookies to fill in my diet, does that make me less healthy than the person that is getting 75% of their calories from fish, rice, and vegetables?

    Yes. Just look at the ingredient list.

    Where your nutrients, fat, carbs, etc. are coming from do matter.

    oh really??? care to elaborate?

    so if my macors are 35p/35c/30 fats and I hit them all with eggs, chicken, rice, bread, etc and then filled in rest of day with ice cream and some cookies, you are saying that is an unhealthy day just because I got 500 - 600 from ice cream and cookies...really?

    As I said, look at the ingredients. That is, unless you're going with organic or natural. It's not necessarily the food itself that's the problem. Food colorings and artificial flavors? Preservatives and other chemicals they put in a lot of foods? No thank you.


    First, all food has "chemicals" so unless you are drinking pure water you are ingesting *gasp* chemiclas.
    You're missing it. If you saw the post I made earlier about the ingredients in Dominoes pizza, maybe it'd be easier for you to understand her point.

    That post you made actually made no sense. All you did was list ingredients in a pizza and pick what you thought was unhealthy. Which there was absolutely no reason why it would have been healthy.
    It's called ingredients that do not have a place in pizza.

    Interesting, I wasn't aware that there was a rule on what belongs in a pizza.

    There should be. Pepperoni - NO, pineapple - yes.

    you're saying pepperoni doesn't belong on a pizza- but pineapple does?

    At no point- outside of sauce- does fruit belong on a pizza.

    Ever.

    Yuck. no.

    meat- cheese- sauce.
    yes.
    fruit? nope nope nope.



    I used to think this, too. Then one of my buddies brought over Hawaiian pizza. I changed my mind.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    At not wasting my time providing links to people who have no genuine interest in them? Actually, I'm pretty good at that.

    But I do have a genuine interest.
    If you did, you would research the issue yourself. It's really not that hard. You obviously have internet access. If you don't care enough to research it, why should I do it for you?

    Then why did you offer. Again, seems disingenuous.

    Also...lulz at the google weak google it yourself ploy. You realize that people can see right through that right? Right?
    I think she was calling your bluff. You claimed to have a "genuine interest", but you didn't.

    If you were genuinely interested in anything, you would seek out knowledge on the subject and wouldn't even limit yourself to the Internet, much less a discussion board.

    If you do not have enough interest to seek out information on your own, there really is no reason someone else to provide you with it.

    If you want to learn, go learn. Nobody can stop you.

    So...disingenuous.

    Being interested when someone makes an assertion does not mean that, based on conflicting time demands, it is a priority and that you want to invest the time to go out, and find something you do not even know the context of or whether you are going to find it.

    Telling someone to google something after making an assertion is a weak retort.
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    So if I get 500 to 600 calories from ice cream and cookies to fill in my diet, does that make me less healthy than the person that is getting 75% of their calories from fish, rice, and vegetables?

    Yes. Just look at the ingredient list.

    Where your nutrients, fat, carbs, etc. are coming from do matter.

    oh really??? care to elaborate?

    so if my macors are 35p/35c/30 fats and I hit them all with eggs, chicken, rice, bread, etc and then filled in rest of day with ice cream and some cookies, you are saying that is an unhealthy day just because I got 500 - 600 from ice cream and cookies...really?

    As I said, look at the ingredients. That is, unless you're going with organic or natural. It's not necessarily the food itself that's the problem. Food colorings and artificial flavors? Preservatives and other chemicals they put in a lot of foods? No thank you.


    First, all food has "chemicals" so unless you are drinking pure water you are ingesting *gasp* chemiclas.
    You're missing it. If you saw the post I made earlier about the ingredients in Dominoes pizza, maybe it'd be easier for you to understand her point.

    That post you made actually made no sense. All you did was list ingredients in a pizza and pick what you thought was unhealthy. Which there was absolutely no reason why it would have been healthy.
    It's called ingredients that do not have a place in pizza.

    Interesting, I wasn't aware that there was a rule on what belongs in a pizza.

    There should be. Pepperoni - NO, pineapple - yes.

    you're saying pepperoni doesn't belong on a pizza- but pineapple does?

    At no point- outside of sauce- does fruit belong on a pizza.

    Ever.

    Yuck. no.

    meat- cheese- sauce.
    yes.
    fruit? nope nope nope.

    Pineapple and cream cheese pizza.

    Pepperoni would be my second choice.

  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    So if I get 500 to 600 calories from ice cream and cookies to fill in my diet, does that make me less healthy than the person that is getting 75% of their calories from fish, rice, and vegetables?

    Yes. Just look at the ingredient list.

    Where your nutrients, fat, carbs, etc. are coming from do matter.

    oh really??? care to elaborate?

    so if my macors are 35p/35c/30 fats and I hit them all with eggs, chicken, rice, bread, etc and then filled in rest of day with ice cream and some cookies, you are saying that is an unhealthy day just because I got 500 - 600 from ice cream and cookies...really?

    As I said, look at the ingredients. That is, unless you're going with organic or natural. It's not necessarily the food itself that's the problem. Food colorings and artificial flavors? Preservatives and other chemicals they put in a lot of foods? No thank you.


    First, all food has "chemicals" so unless you are drinking pure water you are ingesting *gasp* chemiclas.
    You're missing it. If you saw the post I made earlier about the ingredients in Dominoes pizza, maybe it'd be easier for you to understand her point.

    That post you made actually made no sense. All you did was list ingredients in a pizza and pick what you thought was unhealthy. Which there was absolutely no reason why it would have been healthy.
    It's called ingredients that do not have a place in pizza.

    Interesting, I wasn't aware that there was a rule on what belongs in a pizza.

    There should be. Pepperoni - NO, pineapple - yes.

    you're saying pepperoni doesn't belong on a pizza- but pineapple does?

    At no point- outside of sauce- does fruit belong on a pizza.

    Ever.

    Yuck. no.

    meat- cheese- sauce.
    yes.
    fruit? nope nope nope.

    That is exactly what I'm saying.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    edited January 2015
    Kalikel wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    At not wasting my time providing links to people who have no genuine interest in them? Actually, I'm pretty good at that.

    But I do have a genuine interest.
    If you did, you would research the issue yourself. It's really not that hard. You obviously have internet access. If you don't care enough to research it, why should I do it for you?

    Then why did you offer. Again, seems disingenuous.

    Also...lulz at the google weak google it yourself ploy. You realize that people can see right through that right? Right?
    I think she was calling your bluff. You claimed to have a "genuine interest", but you didn't.

    If you were genuinely interested in anything, you would seek out knowledge on the subject and wouldn't even limit yourself to the Internet, much less a discussion board.

    If you do not have enough interest to seek out information on your own, there really is no reason someone else to provide you with it.

    If you want to learn, go learn. Nobody can stop you.

    I am going to step out here and say,. She already knows and would like the other poster to elaborate.
    That's not what she said. She had a genuine interest. If her interest was in knowledge, she can go get more. There is always more to get.

    If her interest is in mocking or insulting that poster, she doesn't need a link, lol.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    I generally agree with the OP's logic however I will say that I think what foods you eat does come into play a little. You could theoretically lose just as much weight eating 1400 calories of deep fried twinkies a day as you would eating 1400 calories of vegetables, but I think it might be healthier overall to eat the veggies.

    What is ironic is that this post in the anomaly now
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    edited January 2015

    There should be. Pepperoni - NO, pineapple - yes.

    I'm staging a revolution if the pizza ruling says no pepperoni


    Whu? Definitely all the meat! and the cheese and banana peppers..yum
  • prattiger65
    prattiger65 Posts: 1,657 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    At not wasting my time providing links to people who have no genuine interest in them? Actually, I'm pretty good at that.

    But I do have a genuine interest.
    If you did, you would research the issue yourself. It's really not that hard. You obviously have internet access. If you don't care enough to research it, why should I do it for you?

    Then why did you offer. Again, seems disingenuous.

    Also...lulz at the google weak google it yourself ploy. You realize that people can see right through that right? Right?
    I think she was calling your bluff. You claimed to have a "genuine interest", but you didn't.

    If you were genuinely interested in anything, you would seek out knowledge on the subject and wouldn't even limit yourself to the Internet, much less a discussion board.

    If you do not have enough interest to seek out information on your own, there really is no reason someone else to provide you with it.

    If you want to learn, go learn. Nobody can stop you.

    I am going to step out here and say,. She already knows and would like the other poster to elaborate.
    That's not what she said. She had a genuine interest. If her interest was in knowledge, she can go get more. There is always more to get.

    If her interest is in mocking or insulting that poster, she doesn't need a link, lol.

    Do you know anything of Sara's background? You must not.
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