i'm eating more but still losing weight
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
I understand that, but many of us come from a background where we've heard that individual foods are healthier than others (like the broccoli vs brownie discussion from another thread).ForecasterJason wrote: »
I know it sounds crazy, but a lot of the members here don't believe in food being "healthy" or "unhealthy".deviboy1592 wrote: »
Why is it crazy? You need to apply context...to your diet as a whole....and dosage.
Ya heard wrong. And if you really had all figured out, then why are you on this site and wondering why you can't gain weight? No one has it all figured out dude0 -
OP, what was the question again?0
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Oh yes,
OP has dropped weight - coincides with decreased exercise.
OP is trying to gain weight
OP is getting full on current calories
OP is looking to up calories.
Let's shove more broccoli down her throat!!
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Sarauk2sf thank you for posting that, seriously, I always enjoy a good read, but when I discuss clean food or junk food, I'm merely stating that food has no nutritional value what's so ever, I know your "not a car" it was a metaphor, and to me something with no nutritional value could be a problem more than being a solution. When I was young I ate everything, probably consuming 3000 or more calories during with very little exercise, mouth full of cavities and weighing about 145-150lbs, now that I'm eating better more nutritional food I'm getting to where I want to be, and maybe I can help this person out from my experience, maybe they are in the same boat as I'am, but no one is the same, but their might be some tips that work for everyone.0
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Why are you still in this bulking forum? I don't get it.ForecasterJason wrote: »
I know it sounds crazy, but a lot of the members here don't believe in food being "healthy" or "unhealthy".deviboy1592 wrote: »
Well he does want to gain weight. So that explains that. Why he isn't listening to logic is another story. ie.. eat a damn pizza already!0 -
Because I personally believe you could ask dozens of random people here in the Western world and almost all of them would be in shock if somone told them it didn't exist. It doesn't mean that you would be wrong, but rather it's not the norm, which makes the idea "crazy" (even being true).ForecasterJason wrote: »
I understand that, but many of us come from a background where we've heard that individual foods are healthier than others (like the broccoli vs brownie discussion from another thread).ForecasterJason wrote: »
I know it sounds crazy, but a lot of the members here don't believe in food being "healthy" or "unhealthy".deviboy1592 wrote: »
Why is it crazy? You need to apply context...to your diet as a whole....and dosage.
How does you 'hearing' about something make the rest of us crazy for either not hearing that mis-information or being open and learning that it is mis-information?
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That would be such a negative calorie shake you would probably go catabolic just looking at it.0 -
Maybe the 1st and last time we agreeJeffseekingV wrote: »
Why are you still in this bulking forum? I don't get it.ForecasterJason wrote: »
I know it sounds crazy, but a lot of the members here don't believe in food being "healthy" or "unhealthy".deviboy1592 wrote: »
Well he does want to gain weight. So that explains that. Why he isn't listening to logic is another story. ie.. eat a damn pizza already!
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I was helping devilboy1592 understand the general thought process of how things go in here in regards to the way food is viewed.
Why are you still in this bulking forum? I don't get it.ForecasterJason wrote: »
I know it sounds crazy, but a lot of the members here don't believe in food being "healthy" or "unhealthy".deviboy1592 wrote: »
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
Because I personally believe you could ask dozens of random people here in the Western world and almost all of them would be in shock if somone told them it didn't exist. It doesn't mean that you would be wrong, but rather it's not the norm, which makes the idea "crazy" (even being true).ForecasterJason wrote: »
I understand that, but many of us come from a background where we've heard that individual foods are healthier than others (like the broccoli vs brownie discussion from another thread).ForecasterJason wrote: »
I know it sounds crazy, but a lot of the members here don't believe in food being "healthy" or "unhealthy".deviboy1592 wrote: »
Why is it crazy? You need to apply context...to your diet as a whole....and dosage.
How does you 'hearing' about something make the rest of us crazy for either not hearing that mis-information or being open and learning that it is mis-information?
But others have told you otherwise but you seem to refuse to accept the information after it was presented to you.0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »
Because I personally believe you could ask dozens of random people here in the Western world and almost all of them would be in shock if somone told them it didn't exist. It doesn't mean that you would be wrong, but rather it's not the norm, which makes the idea "crazy" (even being true).ForecasterJason wrote: »
I understand that, but many of us come from a background where we've heard that individual foods are healthier than others (like the broccoli vs brownie discussion from another thread).ForecasterJason wrote: »
I know it sounds crazy, but a lot of the members here don't believe in food being "healthy" or "unhealthy".deviboy1592 wrote: »
Why is it crazy? You need to apply context...to your diet as a whole....and dosage.
How does you 'hearing' about something make the rest of us crazy for either not hearing that mis-information or being open and learning that it is mis-information?
I think that our definitions of crazy may be different.
Also, calling it crazy in the context you did implies that it is wrong - it i not.0 -
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deviboy1592 wrote: »Sarauk2sf thank you for posting that, seriously, I always enjoy a good read, but when I discuss clean food or junk food, I'm merely stating that food has no nutritional value what's so ever, I know your "not a car" it was a metaphor, and to me something with no nutritional value could be a problem more than being a solution. When I was young I ate everything, probably consuming 3000 or more calories during with very little exercise, mouth full of cavities and weighing about 145-150lbs, now that I'm eating better more nutritional food I'm getting to where I want to be, and maybe I can help this person out from my experience, maybe they are in the same boat as I'am, but no one is the same, but their might be some tips that work for everyone.
I am even more confused now. Food has no nutritional value?
I realize it was a metaphor - it was just not a good one. A metaphor should be relevant if trying to use it to explain something,0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »
I was helping devilboy1592 understand the general thought process of how things go in here in regards to the way food is viewed.
Why are you still in this bulking forum? I don't get it.ForecasterJason wrote: »
I know it sounds crazy, but a lot of the members here don't believe in food being "healthy" or "unhealthy".deviboy1592 wrote: »
How food is viewed is probably a big source of the problems with people have with food today0 -
That would be such a negative calorie shake you would probably go catabolic just looking at it.
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It would be next to impossible to find a food with no nutritional value0
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deviboy1592 wrote: »Sarauk2sf thank you for posting that, seriously, I always enjoy a good read, but when I discuss clean food or junk food, I'm merely stating that food has no nutritional value what's so ever, I know your "not a car" it was a metaphor, and to me something with no nutritional value could be a problem more than being a solution. When I was young I ate everything, probably consuming 3000 or more calories during with very little exercise, mouth full of cavities and weighing about 145-150lbs, now that I'm eating better more nutritional food I'm getting to where I want to be, and maybe I can help this person out from my experience, maybe they are in the same boat as I'am, but no one is the same, but their might be some tips that work for everyone.
What are these foods that have 0 nutritional value you speak of?
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Maybe I should have worded it better. In isolation, the general thought process on here is that unhealthy and healthy food does not exist.ForecasterJason wrote: »
I was helping devilboy1592 understand the general thought process of how things go in here in regards to the way food is viewed.
Why are you still in this bulking forum? I don't get it.ForecasterJason wrote: »
I know it sounds crazy, but a lot of the members here don't believe in food being "healthy" or "unhealthy".deviboy1592 wrote: »
You can't help someone when you don't understand the concepts yourself. That's not hard to understand but with the way the back and forth conversations between you and members here go I'm not surprised you can't understand that.
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Isn't that the basic definition of food? Something having nutritional value?0
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It's funny to see how people get defensive, I'm just merely saying eat food that's good for you, broccoli is better than a damn brownie, energy vs trams fat, macro, micro who cares, I look at sodium, sugar, gluten and gmos, that's all I ate for 35 years, never seen any gains, so why bother, why eat toxic food just to gain a pound of fat then try to burn it off, it sounds like every diet fad out there.0
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OP: Eat more food. It doesn't matter what kind.0
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Which food is toxic again?
Drinking water can be bad for you if done in excess. does that make water "bad"?0 -
No, broccoli is not always better for a person than a brownie.
And now food is toxic, too. You are the diet and fitness industries marketing dream.0 -
Yes, because of the chemicals in it...JeffseekingV wrote: »Which food is toxic again?
Drinking water can be bad for you if done in excess. does that make water "bad"?
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I agree. But check out this thread, you probably won't believe some of the responses made when I said broccoli was healthier than a brownie. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10037714/sweets-when-bulking/p3deviboy1592 wrote: »It's funny to see how people get defensive, I'm just merely saying eat food that's good for you, broccoli is better than a damn brownie, energy vs trams fat, macro, micro who cares, I look at sodium, sugar, gluten and gmos, that's all I ate for 35 years, never seen any gains, so why bother, why eat toxic food just to gain a pound of fat then try to burn it off, it sounds like every diet fad out there.
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^This. This is a very good idea.dawnbatchelor wrote: »Or -if you keep on having problems - get your thyroid function checked by doctor
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