1 gram of protein per lbs myth
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Yep, I have seen that also. After a point, eeking out every advantage from one aspect becomes pointless at best and aa disadvantage - as in meaning that you need to overly restrict carbs or fats - not something that is a good idea generally when trying to maximize MPS.0 -
Because he thinks that being women in our 40s, some of us are idiots who couldn't possibly know anything. That's not the first time he's slipped. I believe I've been referred to as 'some grandma with her Readers Digest', when I was newer here.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
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WalkingAlong wrote: »
Because he thinks that being women in our 40s, some of us are idiots who couldn't possibly know anything. That's not the first time he's slipped. I believe I've been referred to as 'some grandma with her Readers Digest', when I was newer here.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
This whole conversation is hilarious.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Yep, I have seen that also. After a point, eeking out every advantage from one aspect becomes pointless at best and aa disadvantage - as in meaning that you need to overly restrict carbs or fats - not something that is a good idea generally when trying to maximize MPS.
@150lbs it's 600g of protien or 2400 cals per day. Now I have a sedentary job but am active so my maintenance is around 3000. That leaves almost nothing for carbs since I will need some fat, and the majority of protein will be carbs eventually anyway. Soooooo, my diet is so restrictive unless I up my cardio to get, say, 3500 cals for a bit more variety. Oh but wait! Broscience says cardio = bad! now I have to plant my butt on the couch with nothing but chicken breasts, broccoli, and some brown rice. Life is going to suck!0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Yep, I have seen that also. After a point, eeking out every advantage from one aspect becomes pointless at best and aa disadvantage - as in meaning that you need to overly restrict carbs or fats - not something that is a good idea generally when trying to maximize MPS.
@150lbs it's 600g of protien or 2400 cals per day. Now I have a sedentary job but am active so my maintenance is around 3000. That leaves almost nothing for carbs since I will need some fat, and the majority of protein will be carbs eventually anyway. Soooooo, my diet is so restrictive unless I up my cardio to get, say, 3500 cals for a bit more variety. Oh but wait! Broscience says cardio = bad! now I have to plant my butt on the couch with nothing but chicken breasts, broccoli, and some brown rice. Life is going to suck!
Nevermind that at that high of a protein level you're body is just going to break the protein down for energy in a less efficient process than if it were using carbs. So you're essentially just throwing your money away since carbs would be cheaper.0 -
I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mind frame.
Glad you wrote that before I could.
I read that first line and was like... wut? Someone's not doing it right.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »
Because he thinks that being women in our 40s, some of us are idiots who couldn't possibly know anything. That's not the first time he's slipped. I believe I've been referred to as 'some grandma with her Readers Digest', when I was newer here.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
This whole conversation is hilarious.
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herrspoons wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Well, in fairness, BB.com is a howling void of idiocy and insecurity. Avoid.
It's a lot more level than most of the threads here... (*calming awaiting next mean people thread*)0 -
BB.com is loaded with preteens and morons. They all read "TRAIN" magazine and believe all the BS in bodybuilding magazines.
I can't find the study, which there are MULTIPLE ones, including from Alan Aragon & Layne Norton.... but, you only need 0.82g per lb.
Anything else, is overkill or personal preference. People who use steroids and other drugs, need a lot more. I go way over my limit due to I love meat, and yogurts.0 -
martyqueen52 wrote: »BB.com is loaded with preteens and morons. They all read "TRAIN" magazine and believe all the BS in bodybuilding magazines.
I can't find the study, which there are MULTIPLE ones, including from Alan Aragon & Layne Norton.... but, you only need 0.82g per lb.
Anything else, is overkill or personal preference. People who use steroids and other drugs, need a lot more. I go way over my limit due to I love meat, and yogurts.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »BB.com is loaded with preteens and morons. They all read "TRAIN" magazine and believe all the BS in bodybuilding magazines.
I can't find the study, which there are MULTIPLE ones, including from Alan Aragon & Layne Norton.... but, you only need 0.82g per lb.
Anything else, is overkill or personal preference. People who use steroids and other drugs, need a lot more. I go way over my limit due to I love meat, and yogurts.
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martyqueen52 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »BB.com is loaded with preteens and morons. They all read "TRAIN" magazine and believe all the BS in bodybuilding magazines.
I can't find the study, which there are MULTIPLE ones, including from Alan Aragon & Layne Norton.... but, you only need 0.82g per lb.
Anything else, is overkill or personal preference. People who use steroids and other drugs, need a lot more. I go way over my limit due to I love meat, and yogurts.
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My comment.
Since I notice some mods do delete comments.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Yep, I have seen that also. After a point, eeking out every advantage from one aspect becomes pointless at best and aa disadvantage - as in meaning that you need to overly restrict carbs or fats - not something that is a good idea generally when trying to maximize MPS.
@150lbs it's 600g of protien or 2400 cals per day. Now I have a sedentary job but am active so my maintenance is around 3000. That leaves almost nothing for carbs since I will need some fat, and the majority of protein will be carbs eventually anyway. Soooooo, my diet is so restrictive unless I up my cardio to get, say, 3500 cals for a bit more variety. Oh but wait! Broscience says cardio = bad! now I have to plant my butt on the couch with nothing but chicken breasts, broccoli, and some brown rice. Life is going to suck!
Nevermind that at that high of a protein level you're body is just going to break the protein down for energy in a less efficient process than if it were using carbs. So you're essentially just throwing your money away since carbs would be cheaper.
Yeah, once you reach your protein max it undergoes deaminase and then you just have a bunch of expensive carbs and most high carb foods are much less expensive than high protein foods. A bag of oats is really cheap and just as good at that point.0 -
herrspoons wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Well, in fairness, BB.com is a howling void of idiocy and insecurity. Avoid.
LOL, they have a guy there that argued that you can do a workout every other day and that it works out to 4 or 5 times a week! You can't write comedy like that! 0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Well, in fairness, BB.com is a howling void of idiocy and insecurity. Avoid.
LOL, they have guys there that argue that you can do a workout every other day and that it works out to 4 or 5 times a week! You can't write comedy like that!
lol, you should check out t-nation sometimes... lol.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Well, in fairness, BB.com is a howling void of idiocy and insecurity. Avoid.
LOL, they have guys there that argue that you can do a workout every other day and that it works out to 4 or 5 times a week! You can't write comedy like that!
lol, you should check out t-nation sometimes... lol.
Read there latest article of squat form.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Well, in fairness, BB.com is a howling void of idiocy and insecurity. Avoid.
LOL, they have guys there that argue that you can do a workout every other day and that it works out to 4 or 5 times a week! You can't write comedy like that!
lol, you should check out t-nation sometimes... lol.
Oh, I used to go there all the time, and it's a VERY interesting place.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Well, in fairness, BB.com is a howling void of idiocy and insecurity. Avoid.
LOL, they have guys there that argue that you can do a workout every other day and that it works out to 4 or 5 times a week! You can't write comedy like that!
lol, you should check out t-nation sometimes... lol.
Oh, I used to go there all the time, and it's a VERY interesting place.
I saw a thread about a geared lifter that wanted to compete once in a non-tested pl meet, and posters were flippin' tables over him being geared, but wanting to compete USAPL just for the experience in a meet.0 -
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Is it wrong that every time I hear T Nation it reminds me of your first days here? Lol.yopeeps025 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Well, in fairness, BB.com is a howling void of idiocy and insecurity. Avoid.
LOL, they have guys there that argue that you can do a workout every other day and that it works out to 4 or 5 times a week! You can't write comedy like that!
lol, you should check out t-nation sometimes... lol.
Read there latest article of squat form.
That would be a statement not a question because it is true.
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Is it wrong that every time I hear T Nation it reminds me of your first days here? Lol.yopeeps025 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Well, in fairness, BB.com is a howling void of idiocy and insecurity. Avoid.
LOL, they have guys there that argue that you can do a workout every other day and that it works out to 4 or 5 times a week! You can't write comedy like that!
lol, you should check out t-nation sometimes... lol.
Read there latest article of squat form.
lol. Why is that?0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »
Is it wrong that every time I hear T Nation it reminds me of your first days here? Lol.yopeeps025 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Well, in fairness, BB.com is a howling void of idiocy and insecurity. Avoid.
LOL, they have guys there that argue that you can do a workout every other day and that it works out to 4 or 5 times a week! You can't write comedy like that!
lol, you should check out t-nation sometimes... lol.
Read there latest article of squat form.
That would be a statement not a question because it is true.
Touché
Yes I was wrong sometimes but I will own it.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »
Is it wrong that every time I hear T Nation it reminds me of your first days here? Lol.yopeeps025 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Well, in fairness, BB.com is a howling void of idiocy and insecurity. Avoid.
LOL, they have guys there that argue that you can do a workout every other day and that it works out to 4 or 5 times a week! You can't write comedy like that!
lol, you should check out t-nation sometimes... lol.
Read there latest article of squat form.
That would be a statement not a question because it is true.
bros know bros get warned for correcting grammar issues round these parts. lol.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I go with the .8g/lb rule...and I don't even get that much. If I'm in the 30s, it's a big day. I just don't like protein foods. Working on it.
I think most bodybuilders like to go over whatever that highest number that has been proven to be of any use (1.2?) might be, but it's not a big deal. If they want to eat more protein, good for them.
Wish I could absorb some of that love for protein. Totally jealous.
Those 2 lines together make no sense at all. 30s is a big day bUT then you go .8 rule. So you're at least 100g short. OK I get it
Also, don't make assumptions about bodybuilders. You have none clue of the mminds frame.
Considering how varied body builders are there is no real way to understand what a person things or believes just from that description alone. Some are very scientific and have advanced degrees in health and life sciences (nutrition, biology, biochemstry, exercise physiology etc are rather common) on one end and those who are bros on the other and and people from everywhere in between.
I agree and that's why it makes no sense when people say stuff like that. Specially a 40 something year old that doesn't understand protein requirements or what bodybuilders think. It's just more assumptions by that member as always.
Why bring age into it (unless relates to protein requirements)?
Generally, bb'ers (at least competitive ones) do tend to err on the high side as they are trying to eek out every advantage. While not a bb'er, my target is a little under 1g/lb BW at maintenance and a little over 1g/lb BW when on a cut. I tend towards high protein naturally so its not an issue for me to hit it, usually even without protein powder.
I've seen those on BB.com who are trying to hit 2, 3 and even 4g/lb because of broscience. For a person that is 200+lbs that a LOT of protein to eat. I just don't see how someone can eat that much, of course, they are probably eating a lot of chicken, tuna and protein shakes and bars.
Yep, I have seen that also. After a point, eeking out every advantage from one aspect becomes pointless at best and aa disadvantage - as in meaning that you need to overly restrict carbs or fats - not something that is a good idea generally when trying to maximize MPS.
@150lbs it's 600g of protien or 2400 cals per day. Now I have a sedentary job but am active so my maintenance is around 3000. That leaves almost nothing for carbs since I will need some fat, and the majority of protein will be carbs eventually anyway. Soooooo, my diet is so restrictive unless I up my cardio to get, say, 3500 cals for a bit more variety. Oh but wait! Broscience says cardio = bad! now I have to plant my butt on the couch with nothing but chicken breasts, broccoli, and some brown rice. Life is going to suck!
Holy typos on my post batman! lol
Yep - there is absolutely no point going that high, and it will be counter-productive anyway. Good luck to those keeping test up with only a very small fat allowance.0
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