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  • 68myra68myra Member Posts: 977 Member Member Posts: 977 Member
    LisaTcan wrote: »
    I've struggled with depression in the past, also an eating disorder, what I have found really helps:

    - good meds/doctor/therapist
    - daily exercise and walking outside
    - sleeping 8 hours a night
    - eating healthy meals, avoiding snacking and grazing
    - good friends :)
    - CBT is great if you can make your self do it

    Hugs, hang in there :)

    thank you to LisaTcan :) i'm glad your depression is in the past :) mine is more like moyer566 describes: and i do my best to manage it. I agree with all your ideas..... I also like DBT (dialectical behavior therapy) (it has helped my adult daughter who was diagnosed with depression and borderline personality disorder)

    hugs back! :)
  • kuroshiikuroshii Member Posts: 168 Member Member Posts: 168 Member
    Thank you, shelleygold and everyone else for this thread. I don't have anything to add at the moment, other than to say I'm very glad to have found and read it.
  • shelleygoldshelleygold Member Posts: 178 Member Member Posts: 178 Member
    Hi Kuroshi and everyone,
    It's a privilege to be operating this thread. Together we can achieve great things:
    Take care
    S
  • shelleygoldshelleygold Member Posts: 178 Member Member Posts: 178 Member
    Hi Tribe
    End of the week for this cowboy and I feel quietly optimistic that I am heading into a moderately positive place in my mind. Has anyone seen the movie Inside Out? A classic movie that for me provided so much insight into how the brain works and how we are all influenced by our emotions. More specifically, how we need sadness to accompany joy, where appropriate as life is challenging and sometimes painful and to pretend that we ought to not to feel down is both silly and unrealistic. I think we can make the distinction however been sadness (an emotion) and Depression( state of mind). The more I think about it, the more I wonder how we are taught to accept or not accept our emotions, our challenges in life and the ups and downs that make our lives uncertain and sometimes hard. I am not sure where I am going with this. Suffice to say, that my social experiment this week-end will be to focus on the parts of me and the world around me that are going ok. My groin injury is improving day by day (still hurts like hell but not as bad), I can watch what I eat over the next period of time, get some sun and stay mindful and present. May I check in with you as the week-end unfolds and let you know how I maintain this orientation? I feel safe enough with you to tell you what really happens. Feelings and all.
    What are your plans for the week-end? How are you going to offer your minds and bodies something positive and uplifting. I care and I really want to know.
    Take Care
    S
  • 68myra68myra Member Posts: 977 Member Member Posts: 977 Member
    shelleygold, as far as I'm concerned: OF COURSE, you can check in, and i'm glad you feel safe :)

    as for me and my weekend: kids' outdoor activities have been cancelled, so I'm hoping to hit a Saturday morning yoga class. Hubby leaves for business trip on Sunday, so me and two kiddos will plan something 'girlie' for that evening. i must continue to strengthen my weak buttocks, but what to offer my mind? I post on an MFP daily gratitude thread, and I'll find a way to celebrate both younger kids' good report cards :) Hopefully making them both feel special and proud of their individual accomplishments.
  • 68myra68myra Member Posts: 977 Member Member Posts: 977 Member
    Happy Monday all. two kids out of school for the week, so i'll be out of my routine and no yoga classes. it will pass, and i'll enjoy doing something different. i will, i will.
  • kiela64kiela64 Member Posts: 1,448 Member Member Posts: 1,448 Member
    Everything moves together, my anxiety and depression and eating. They cycle together, and right now they're all up :( it makes me feel so tired. What do you guys do when you just want to stop trying?
  • angelexperimentangelexperiment Member Posts: 1,904 Member Member Posts: 1,904 Member
    kae612 wrote: »
    Everything moves together, my anxiety and depression and eating. They cycle together, and right now they're all up :( it makes me feel so tired. What do you guys do when you just want to stop trying?

    Take it one day at a time and one choice at a time. I choose to exercise today (bc even tho I am really resistant on it I will feel much better) I choose to not let one bad food choice roll into a day long or weeklong binge or bad eating ( bc I know if you make the healthier choice I will feel good instead of awful for breaking my self promise)
  • shelleygoldshelleygold Member Posts: 178 Member Member Posts: 178 Member
    Hi group,
    It's been a quiet thread over the past three days. Highs and lows for me and trying not to regret my past. Not a lot to offer today. I have designed a rather strict plan with my partner's help for eating and working out. If anyone here wants to know more or be a part of the journey, I would welcome the friendship requests.
    Take care
    S
  • allenpriestallenpriest Member Posts: 1,102 Member Member Posts: 1,102 Member
    Yi5hedr3 wrote: »
    Take vitamin B complex and fish oil. No more depression.

    Bullsh--
  • shelleygoldshelleygold Member Posts: 178 Member Member Posts: 178 Member
    Hi folks,
    I have been confronted today with the opinions of others regarding me and noticed that as the day progressed, I discovered that I have a higher degree if resilience than I thought. The opinions were not about my weight by they might as well have been. I am aware that I tend not established clear boundaries and I am easily wounded and hurt by the views and thoughts of others. However, today I made up my mind that what I think about me and how I value myself is far more important than the courts of world opinion. I have to rise and fall according to how I choose to think, feel, and react and I can, like anyone else, make mistakes and be perfectly imperfect. Depression has an awful way of blasting confidence and self-love. Let's all decide that how we choose to think about ourselves is negotiable and not fixed in time. We are not defined by the past, our errors, our weight or the ability to meet the expectation of others. We are works in progress.
  • 68myra68myra Member Posts: 977 Member Member Posts: 977 Member
    Hi folks,
    I have been confronted today with the opinions of others regarding me and noticed that as the day progressed, I discovered that I have a higher degree if resilience than I thought. The opinions were not about my weight by they might as well have been. I am aware that I tend not established clear boundaries and I am easily wounded and hurt by the views and thoughts of others. However, today I made up my mind that what I think about me and how I value myself is far more important than the courts of world opinion. I have to rise and fall according to how I choose to think, feel, and react and I can, like anyone else, make mistakes and be perfectly imperfect. Depression has an awful way of blasting confidence and self-love. Let's all decide that how we choose to think about ourselves is negotiable and not fixed in time. We are not defined by the past, our errors, our weight or the ability to meet the expectation of others. We are works in progress.

    i second that! and may i add that i'm so glad that how i choose to think about myself right not is NOT fixed. i am deep in it, but it won't last. it can't.
  • kiela64kiela64 Member Posts: 1,448 Member Member Posts: 1,448 Member
    kae612 wrote: »
    Everything moves together, my anxiety and depression and eating. They cycle together, and right now they're all up :( it makes me feel so tired. What do you guys do when you just want to stop trying?

    Take it one day at a time and one choice at a time. I choose to exercise today (bc even tho I am really resistant on it I will feel much better) I choose to not let one bad food choice roll into a day long or weeklong binge or bad eating ( bc I know if you make the healthier choice I will feel good instead of awful for breaking my self promise)

    <3<3<3
  • dubirddubird Member Posts: 1,854 Member Member Posts: 1,854 Member
    You know, seeing the posts here really underlines the fact that people with clinical depression will experience it differently. It's weird, I know exercise helps a lot of people with depression, but I guess I'm one of the rare ones. For me, exercise doesn't help. Eating doesn't really help either. My issues with food are simply the fact that when I got a desk job, I wasn't burning as many calories but didn't adjust my calories in. So for ME, it's not a bad food relationship to break, just learning portion control. And exercise is always a chore for me due to asthma. I'm starting to get it under control, but even though I can walk a good 45 minute walk that gets my heart rate up decently, I still hate it. The only reason I'm still doing it is the Zombies Run app. Even the fact that it's helping my asthma isn't enough to keep me walking.

    Not sure what my point is here, to be honest, I guess I just want to point out that while trying exercise to help with depression is a step you need to try, if it doesn't help, that's ok. Still need to do something because it's good for you in other ways, but if it doesn't help your depression, there are other things to try.
  • daniet23daniet23 Member Posts: 14 Member Member Posts: 14 Member
    I have also battled with my weight and bi polar disorder pretty much my whole life. I have found that in order for me to be physically healthy I first have to tend to my health mentally. That means taking my meds talking to and being honest with my therapist and phycologists. Sometimes therapy really helps me when I'm going thru my lows. I used to be ashamed of my diagnosis, because the way the public portrays people with bipolar as being "crazy", but now that I have accepted that thats apart of who I am I'm finally on the road to recovery and getting healthy. Ik I'm a stranger but if u ever need an ear I'm a great listener I feel for u and can relate.
  • shelleygoldshelleygold Member Posts: 178 Member Member Posts: 178 Member
    Ok Team!
    I'm back. Must have been the B6 and Fish Oil( if only it was that simple).
    Hit a road bump but that is life. It's interesting how the mind works. Just felt so dark, alone, fat, judged and hopeless. It was triggered by a situation which required problem solving rather than emotion but it took me a bit to get there. I'm not a big fan of wading through past impacts because that can be seen as somewhere between indulgent and making excuses. We are all victims and all survivors. We are all weakened by life and the strengthened by how we move through our challenges.
    So... I invite my tribe to write one challenge they have had recently and what helped and what didn't help?
    For me, the challenge was judgement and exclusion by others. What didn't help was blaming myself and inflating the issue. What helped was:
    1. Talking about my feelings
    2. Letting myself go through the pain
    3. Confronting and problem solving
    4. And writing to you.

    Your turn
  • shelleygoldshelleygold Member Posts: 178 Member Member Posts: 178 Member
    I find myself obsessing a bit with going to the gym and walking. It seems that I cannot imagine sticking to a strict eating regime unless I link it to heavy work-outs. When I think about it, I wonder if I am impatient and want to see immediate results. Patients is a skill and an attribute. I suspect that depression makes the waiting period more difficult because optimism, is required when one is hoping for outcomes. Perhaps depression paints the outcome dark so what is the point of putting in the effort. So....cannot give into that line of thinking as it leads to giving up. I must have been sleeping when G-D was giving the lessons on moderation and planning. Oh well. Never too late to learn.
    Walked by my favourite cafe the other day. Sign said OCD (Obsessive Coffee Disorder). Might indulge in that obsession now. Hope everyone is well.
    S
  • shelleygoldshelleygold Member Posts: 178 Member Member Posts: 178 Member
    Just reviewing some of the posts and found myself marvelling at the intelligence in peoples' thoughts and experiences. Whether we think Depression is managed medically, psychologically, spiritually or physically, we are left with the challenge that our brains are ever changing and there is always hope. Similarly, the science of weight loss always requires flexible thinking and a whole shift in attitude and orientation. I suppose we are after long term changes and benefits rather than fad-based responses that make us think there is a short cut to healthy living.
    Hope you are are all loving yourselves through whatever is causing you pain and remember that you are never alone.
    S
  • FrankieandSpotsFrankieandSpots Member Posts: 444 Member Member Posts: 444 Member
    Hi Shellygold (and others),
    I just wanted to say thankyou for starting this thread and to everyone who has contributed. I just avidly read every word of your experiences and I like hearing about how you face your challenges.

    I experience relatively mild bouts of depressive feelings and meaninglessness, but they are still acutely miserable.
    I have a kind of mental checklist for well being - enough sleep, exercise, nutritious food, socialise with at least 2 people and do something that feels productive. If I don't do these things, especially a couple of days in a row I am much more susceptible to having a day where I feel terrible.
    If I'm feeling down I try to fit them into my day... I can turn it around or make it less bad if I catch it early enough; if I don't, then I might not be motivated enough to help myself and I need to wait out the worst of it before I can.

    Much love to everyone who has posted here.
  • shelleygoldshelleygold Member Posts: 178 Member Member Posts: 178 Member
    Dear FrankieandSpots,
    Thanks for your lovely words and thoughts about your own challenges and how you are managing your depressed feelings. I like your idea of a mental checklist. I hadn't thought about how we circumvent depression with a deliberate set of strategies; like a pilot checking on all of the functions of his/her plane prior to lift off. Once the bird leaves the tarmac, there has to be some confidence that everything looked ok. You clearly have great insight and self-awareness with regards to what you need to be more positive.
    I also take your point about the "meaning" of life. I recall the writings of an author/Psychiatrist who survived one of the death camps during the Holocaust. (Victor Frankyl) who wrote about his experiences in Auschwitz. He wrote a book titled "Man's Search For Meaning". Dr Frankyl concluded that the meaning life offers is the meaning we give it. I know that sounds circular but when you think about it, it kind of makes sense. If I am having a "bad" day, someone else may have the exact same type of day but think about it differently. They may say to themselves, "what did I learn about myself today", or " what challenges did I face". Dr Frankyl said that he survived the camp because he made himself think differently about what he was going through and what kind things he could latch on to no matter how few and far between. I get some strength from this during my darker moments.
    Anyways, didn't mean to go on and on.
    Thanks for your message again and have a great day.

    Shel
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