Body Positive or Promoting an unhealthy lifestyle
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honkytonks85 wrote: »What always gets me is the assumption that being big = unhealthy lifestyle and being slim = healthy lifestyle. Not really the case. It is possible to be overweight and still be healthy. It is possible to be slim and be unhealthy.
if you're 100 pounds overweight, how could you possibly have a healthy lifestyle?
http://healthland.time.com/2012/09/05/can-you-be-fat-and-fit-or-thin-and-unhealthy/
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I see this thread has now degenerated into a debate on how obese people really are just as healthy as the non obese...
LOL interesting...0 -
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yopeeps025 wrote: »
yea, the 700 calorie deficit one????0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »
yea, the 700 calorie deficit one????
Yeah I had fun with that. I think that is how @MrM27 used to have fun with my misinform self.
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I'd love to see more plus-sized models. It's hard to tell how clothing will look on me when it's only modeled by size 0 women. Do the clothes look good because they're nice clothes, or because she's so skinny? I'm sure the advertisers sell more clothes when they hang it on a very thin woman, so it's really just a marketing decision.
Women of all shapes and sizes deserve to have clothing that fits properly and is flattering.
I think it's been mentioned before, but the typical size 0 model promotes a very unhealthy lifestyle of constant dieting and food restriction; sadly, that's seen by some as normal. Personally I'd rather see "most" models at size 8 - 12 US.
I don't think we need to make a moral issue out of it.0 -
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Lourdesong wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
The "fat" are "pitiable"?
Really, you went there?
Read the whole conversation. I am among this pitiable group that needs a self-esteem boost so is being encouraged to boast about qualities I do not possess.
So only the fat that don't have self esteem are pitiable?
And it's ok to call them that if you belong to them. Got it.
You don't 'get' anything. You clearly aren't following along and don't understand what my argument even was.
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Go to any water park or beach on a given day and you can see a lot of very heavy people wearing clothes that show you too much flesh, just like the model that is the subject of this thread. Should they all be offered modeling contracts?0
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I think she is beautiful0
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honkytonks85 wrote: »What always gets me is the assumption that being big = unhealthy lifestyle and being slim = healthy lifestyle. Not really the case. It is possible to be overweight and still be healthy. It is possible to be slim and be unhealthy.
yep
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her body is not beautiful. She has a nice very heavily made up face.-1
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My god, I want her hair. o_O And her chin! I'm several sizes smaller than her, yet I have the most frustrating double chin that will not go away, HOW DOES SHE DO..
Face tattoos (both tats of faces and tats on the face) aren't my cup of tea, but confidence is always sexy. ;D0 -
I see medically unhealthy. Nothing more nothing less.
I'm realistic.
She is gorgeous and looks beautiful but that means nothing to me.
My world revolves around whatever lifestyle she is leading how's her yearly blood work.0 -
My god, I want her hair. o_O And her chin! I'm several sizes smaller than her, yet I have the most frustrating double chin that will not go away, HOW DOES SHE DO..
Face tattoos (both tats of faces and tats on the face) aren't my cup of tea, but confidence is always sexy. ;D
One "trick" is to stick your head forward towards the camera. I read an article about how to take a good portrait photo, and after years of thinking I was unphotogenic I can reliably get a great photo.0 -
I think that the clothing and modeling industry has largely ignored women of a larger size. I think that this is good because it will increase awareness that people come in all sizes. There are large women (like me) that are doing something about our weight, but we still need to buy clothing in our current size, and still need to see women in the catalogs and websites that are similar to us. Do you know how hard it is to buy something online that is a size 20, but is modeled on a size 6? Its impossible to know how it will fit on a woman of that size.0
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melimomTARDIS wrote: »like I know a girl who wont wear shorts or swimwear, even in a humid midwestern summer, because she is fat. So she just sweats and suffers all summer long. That is no way to live! A little self esteem would go a long way in her case.
When you carry weight in your legs, there is often cellulite and other bumps that are hidden by longer pants. You can still tell that there is weight there, but you don't have to show the cellulite, bumps, spider veins, and other discoloration that often comes with carrying weight in your legs. People tend to look at my legs less when I wear pants vs when I wear shorts.
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Suggested reading for those that insist that an individual that is overweight must be unhealthy.
http://www.oxfordjournals.org/our_journals/eurheartj/press_releases/freepdf/prpaper.pdf
http://healthland.time.com/2012/09/05/can-you-be-fat-and-fit-or-thin-and-unhealthy/
From that article:
'That’s why some heavy people can be fit on the inside — healthier even than some of their thinner peers. Many people who diet but don’t exercise to lose weight, for example, may technically reach a “healthy” weight, but their fitness level doesn’t match. They may appear trim on the outside, but still carry too much visceral fat and not enough muscle on the inside. “They’re not physically active. They have horrible and restrictive diets. They might not be overweight, but metabolically they’re a mess,” says Church.'
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also, I think that very few women are in "DENIAL" about being a larger body type. Either they know it and are doing something about it... or they know it, and are ok with it. Nobody is a size 24 and thinks they're a size 12.0
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I've just learned a new word "pitiable" deserving or arousing pity. Wow! this thread was really divisive.0
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girlviernes wrote: »My god, I want her hair. o_O And her chin! I'm several sizes smaller than her, yet I have the most frustrating double chin that will not go away, HOW DOES SHE DO..
Face tattoos (both tats of faces and tats on the face) aren't my cup of tea, but confidence is always sexy. ;D
One "trick" is to stick your head forward towards the camera. I read an article about how to take a good portrait photo, and after years of thinking I was unphotogenic I can reliably get a great photo.
Yep, I'm all too familiar with That One Crazy Trick™, I'm just stuck with frustrating genetics. Chipmunk cheeks dating back to at least the mid-1800s, according to the family album. heh. I come from a long line of stout, jowly Germans. ;D Even the skinny ones have a sort of aura of stoutness to them, like the extra 50lbs are sitting off to the side of the camera, waiting to pounce.0 -
My god, I want her hair. o_O And her chin! I'm several sizes smaller than her, yet I have the most frustrating double chin that will not go away, HOW DOES SHE DO..
Face tattoos (both tats of faces and tats on the face) aren't my cup of tea, but confidence is always sexy. ;D
her hair is nice, but could be a hair piece involved.0 -
Superlissaanne wrote: »I think that the clothing and modeling industry has largely ignored women of a larger size. I think that this is good because it will increase awareness that people come in all sizes. There are large women (like me) that are doing something about our weight, but we still need to buy clothing in our current size, and still need to see women in the catalogs and websites that are similar to us. Do you know how hard it is to buy something online that is a size 20, but is modeled on a size 6? Its impossible to know how it will fit on a woman of that size.
It's impossible to know even for women who are a smaller size, but not the same proportions as the model. I'm not tall like models and I have wider hips than models. I have to try all my clothes on before buying them. I can't order anything online just by looking at it and I'm a small size. This isn't only true for larger women. It's true for any woman who isn't build like a model.0 -
I say good for her for doing what she wants to do and think it's great that she found an agency that will take her on. I certainly think that too much of the 'fasion' industry emphasizes a physique that I personally find to be on the 'too skinny' side of things. It's important for women to know that they don't have to look like the skinny models in order to be attractive.0
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Lourdesong wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Lourdesong wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
The "fat" are "pitiable"?
Really, you went there?
Read the whole conversation. I am among this pitiable group that needs a self-esteem boost so is being encouraged to boast about qualities I do not possess.
So only the fat that don't have self esteem are pitiable?
And it's ok to call them that if you belong to them. Got it.
You don't 'get' anything. You clearly aren't following along and don't understand what my argument even was.
So who are the pitiable then?
Spell it slow, I'm not only not following along, I'm kinda dense.0 -
honkytonks85 wrote: »What always gets me is the assumption that being big = unhealthy lifestyle and being slim = healthy lifestyle. Not really the case. It is possible to be overweight and still be healthy. It is possible to be slim and be unhealthy.
She is also 22 years old. She may be "healthy" now, unfortunately in another 10 years that will probably change.
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When I see photos of Tess, I don't notice if she's beautiful or not, or if the clothes she models look appealing, I only feel envious of her apparent self confidence. The notion of loving myself at any size is incomprehensible to me. I'm frankly embarrased by my size. I just want to send up a big cheer for all of you people posting here that have conquered this for yourselves.0
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