My 600 Pound Life?
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Lourdesong wrote: »Betti jo was huge before she was assulted, she's been huge her whole life and there didn't appear to me that there was ever a time when she wasn't piling on the pounds. Her rationaliation is a story. Just like when she told dr n that she's been overeating cuz she's been depressed. Another story she tells to get left alone and not badgered for her behavior.
I found it amusing that she thought adding green beans to hamburger helper would accomplish anything meaningful. And that she thinks her supet skinny husband should change how he eats as if he also has a quarter ton of weight to shed.
I Felt like his coming right out and saying he's afraid she'll leave if she loses weight was scripted. It seems like the show has been wanting that angle and this kid is the first person to agree to be fed that line and promote that narrative outright.
He said at dr n's that he just stopped fighting with her about the food (why would there be a fight if he wants her fed as bad as wants to eat?) and then when the dr left the room i heard the husband say to betti joe that she better not bite his head off [if he doesn't buy junk, etc].
Which shows, what? That she had already learned a general coping mechanism (overeating) and when sexual abuse happened, that's where she turned. This is a surprise?
And yes, many of the people on this show - whether having been abused in the past or not - seem to almost be stuck in an "infantile" state. They are dependent upon others for various reasons, and they reason (and argue) in a childlike way. Some also tend toward being very manipulative (you pointed out the implied threat in the husband not buying the "bad" food) which, again, is a learned behavior. This can mean a lot of things, but generally, a person who's stuck at a certain developmental level emotionally often got stuck there for a reason.
Once again: this is a reason, not an excuse. Yes, these people - all of them, pretty much, no matter what their pasts - need emotional help as well as physical. I have seen a couple of episodes where the person went into therapy. I think that it would be a great idea for the majority of the people on this show to look into that sort of arrangement, because for most of them, just as, I suspect, a good few of us here, physical hunger was never really the problem.
But none of what you pointed out is any sort of proof that sexual abuse and overeating (or another self-destructive and compulsive behavior) don't have a link, sorry. Indeed, although I don't know whether this was the case in the particular person you're referencing (don't remember the episode), where there's sexual abuse, often (not always) there has already been a very, very, very dysfunctional situation. The overwhelming majority of sexual abuse is perpetrated by either a family member or a close family friend, the larger chunk of that segment being the former. Children don't usually (I won't say always, that would be silly) lead 100% happy lives with loving, sensible parents and then have one of those parents suddenly decide one day, "Hey! You know what I think I'll do? Rape my daughter."
Sorry to be blunt.
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I never said it was ok. I said that everyone deals with it differently. You obviously know wayyyy more about the psychology behind the morbidly obese then I do so I'm going to bow out of this conversation.0
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Lourdesong wrote: »Betti jo was huge before she was assulted, she's been huge her whole life and there didn't appear to me that there was ever a time when she wasn't piling on the pounds. Her rationaliation is a story. Just like when she told dr n that she's been overeating cuz she's been depressed. Another story she tells to get left alone and not badgered for her behavior.
I found it amusing that she thought adding green beans to hamburger helper would accomplish anything meaningful. And that she thinks her supet skinny husband should change how he eats as if he also has a quarter ton of weight to shed.
I Felt like his coming right out and saying he's afraid she'll leave if she loses weight was scripted. It seems like the show has been wanting that angle and this kid is the first person to agree to be fed that line and promote that narrative outright.
He said at dr n's that he just stopped fighting with her about the food (why would there be a fight if he wants her fed as bad as wants to eat?) and then when the dr left the room i heard the husband say to betti joe that she better not bite his head off [if he doesn't buy junk, etc].
Which shows, what? That she had already learned a general coping mechanism (overeating) and when sexual abuse happened, that's where she turned. This is a surprise?
And yes, many of the people on this show - whether having been abused in the past or not - seem to almost be stuck in an "infantile" state. They are dependent upon others for various reasons, and they reason (and argue) in a childlike way. Some also tend toward being very manipulative (you pointed out the implied threat in the husband not buying the "bad" food) which, again, is a learned behavior. This can mean a lot of things, but generally, a person who's stuck at a certain developmental level emotionally often got stuck there for a reason.
Once again: this is a reason, not an excuse. Yes, these people - all of them, pretty much, no matter what their pasts - need emotional help as well as physical. I have seen a couple of episodes where the person went into therapy. I think that would be a great idea for the majority of the people on this show to look into that sort of arrangement, because for most of them, just as, I suspect, a good few of us here, physical hunger was never really the problem.
But none of what you pointed out is any sort of proof that sexual abuse and overeating don't have a link, sorry. Indeed, although I don't know whether this was the case in the particular person you're referencing (don't remember the episode), where there's sexual abuse, there has already been a very, very, very dysfunctional situation. The overwhelming majority of sexual abuse is perpetrated by either a family member or a close family friend, the larger chunk of that segment being the former. Children don't usually (I won't say always, that would be silly) lead 100% happy lives with loving, sensible parents and then have one of those parents suddenly decide one day, "Hey! You know what I think I'll do? Rape my daughter."
Sorry to be blunt.
I see this in just about every episode, with the exception of maybe Amber.
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Not to butt into this fun rape derail (sarcasm), but I watched Angel's episode today and was happy to see a woman with drive to succeed as well as a supportive boyfriend. Most of these women are married to/living with men who seem to fetishize and prefer an immobile woman. example: Bettie Jo's husband, as well as Melissa's (first season) and I think Zsalynn had one as well.0
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i watch it and it makes me to keep trying because i don't want to end up that big.. i have contemplated weight loss surgery and have given myself a time frame. alot of enabling going on in the show. family and friends have to be on board. my biggest issues are the ones who want this and say this is my last chance and then won't do what the dr says and whine about how hard it is.. yes it's hard.. i struggle every single day...0
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MYhealthyjourney70 wrote: »i watch it and it makes me to keep trying because i don't want to end up that big.. i have contemplated weight loss surgery and have given myself a time frame. alot of enabling going on in the show. family and friends have to be on board. my biggest issues are the ones who want this and say this is my last chance and then won't do what the dr says and whine about how hard it is.. yes it's hard.. i struggle every single day...
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It's not my job to prove there is not a link. The claim which isn't my claim is there is causal connection between 2 events that appear unrelated.Lourdesong wrote: »Betti jo was huge before she was assulted, she's been huge her whole life and there didn't appear to me that there was ever a time when she wasn't piling on the pounds. Her rationaliation is a story. Just like when she told dr n that she's been overeating cuz she's been depressed. Another story she tells to get left alone and not badgered for her behavior.
I found it amusing that she thought adding green beans to hamburger helper would accomplish anything meaningful. And that she thinks her supet skinny husband should change how he eats as if he also has a quarter ton of weight to shed.
I Felt like his coming right out and saying he's afraid she'll leave if she loses weight was scripted. It seems like the show has been wanting that angle and this kid is the first person to agree to be fed that line and promote that narrative outright.
He said at dr n's that he just stopped fighting with her about the food (why would there be a fight if he wants her fed as bad as wants to eat?) and then when the dr left the room i heard the husband say to betti joe that she better not bite his head off [if he doesn't buy junk, etc].
Which shows, what? That she had already learned a general coping mechanism (overeating) and when sexual abuse happened, that's where she turned. This is a surprise?
And yes, many of the people on this show - whether having been abused in the past or not - seem to almost be stuck in an "infantile" state. They are dependent upon others for various reasons, and they reason (and argue) in a childlike way. Some also tend toward being very manipulative (you pointed out the implied threat in the husband not buying the "bad" food) which, again, is a learned behavior. This can mean a lot of things, but generally, a person who's stuck at a certain developmental level emotionally often got stuck there for a reason.
Once again: this is a reason, not an excuse. Yes, these people - all of them, pretty much, no matter what their pasts - need emotional help as well as physical. I have seen a couple of episodes where the person went into therapy. I think that it would be a great idea for the majority of the people on this show to look into that sort of arrangement, because for most of them, just as, I suspect, a good few of us here, physical hunger was never really the problem.
But none of what you pointed out is any sort of proof that sexual abuse and overeating (or another self-destructive and compulsive behavior) don't have a link, sorry. Indeed, although I don't know whether this was the case in the particular person you're referencing (don't remember the episode), where there's sexual abuse, often (not always) there has already been a very, very, very dysfunctional situation. The overwhelming majority of sexual abuse is perpetrated by either a family member or a close family friend, the larger chunk of that segment being the former. Children don't usually (I won't say always, that would be silly) lead 100% happy lives with loving, sensible parents and then have one of those parents suddenly decide one day, "Hey! You know what I think I'll do? Rape my daughter."
Sorry to be blunt.
She was fat and getting bigger when she was aasaulted but she thinks fat is protective? Apparently it's not. Sounds like a rationalization linking 2 things that have no causal relation.
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I watch the show every week and it truly is a motivator for me. (Besides, it makes me cry, laugh, yell and watch the win for those who do. I would feel awful if one died and they easily could do so.)
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My best friend was on a TLC reality health show. She said sooooo many things were staged. So the question about My 600 Pound Life is, "What here is real and what is made up by the producers to make a 'better' show?"
I'm sure some of the drama is induced but you can't fake 600 pounds and how the person got there. I doubt the enabling part of the show is faked (maybe dramatized) but again you can't fake 600 pounds and the person got there and maintained it with some help.
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tracyannk28 wrote: »Have ya'll noticed that a lot of these women are blaming their weight on prior sexual assult/sexual abuse/child molestation?
I get a little irratated when I hear that because (sadly) I know victims of these awful things and none of them weigh 650 pounds...I feel like they're using it as an excuse and I find it offensive.
So none of your friends who have been abused have any emotional or behavioral issues as a consequence? That's pretty amazing to me.
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tracyannk28 wrote: »Have ya'll noticed that a lot of these women are blaming their weight on prior sexual assult/sexual abuse/child molestation?
I get a little irratated when I hear that because (sadly) I know victims of these awful things and none of them weigh 650 pounds...I feel like they're using it as an excuse and I find it offensive.
So none of your friends who have been abused have any emotional or behavioral issues as a consequence? That's pretty amazing to me.
I know, right? What were the odds.
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happyfeetrebel1 wrote: »Now I'm curious, is there somewhere I can watch this without having cable? Having been morbidly obese, seeing others' reactions to it is interesting to me...not in a freak show way, but in a 'this was my life' way...
shoot, my gym has tlc on 24/7 and it seems thats the only show TLC plays LOLOL
that and the wedding dress one
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »Nope. To me, shows like this smack of schadenfreude porn. I can't get entertainment out of the misfortunes of others. Plus, reality TV is the worst thing that has ever happened in the history of television.
I agree. (Bonus points for use of "schadenfreude.")
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tracyannk28 wrote: »Have ya'll noticed that a lot of these women are blaming their weight on prior sexual assult/sexual abuse/child molestation?
I get a little irratated when I hear that because (sadly) I know victims of these awful things and none of them weigh 650 pounds...I feel like they're using it as an excuse and I find it offensive.
So none of your friends who have been abused have any emotional or behavioral issues as a consequence? That's pretty amazing to me.
I know, right? What were the odds.
I was just noticing that there are plenty of Intervention reruns on as well...0 -
I don't think it's healthy to play armchair therapist generally, and certainly not for people you've never met or interacted with. You've been given a small peek into the lives of some very sick, troubled people. Maybe judge them a little less and have a little compassion for their plight regardless of how they got there.tracyannk28 wrote: »Have ya'll noticed that a lot of these women are blaming their weight on prior sexual assult/sexual abuse/child molestation?
I get a little irratated when I hear that because (sadly) I know victims of these awful things and none of them weigh 650 pounds...I feel like they're using it as an excuse and I find it offensive.0 -
tracyannk28 wrote: »Have ya'll noticed that a lot of these women are blaming their weight on prior sexual assult/sexual abuse/child molestation?
I get a little irratated when I hear that because (sadly) I know victims of these awful things and none of them weigh 650 pounds...I feel like they're using it as an excuse and I find it offensive.
So none of your friends who have been abused have any emotional or behavioral issues as a consequence? That's pretty amazing to me.
I know, right? What were the odds.
I was just noticing that there are plenty of Intervention reruns on as well...
Oh my God, now that one I can't even watch. At all. It's 99.9% pain, suffering, screaming, messed family dynamics, children sobbing and begging their parents to come back to them and not to die and graphic visuals of shooting up...and .1% of "Okay. I'll do it. For you," 13 seconds of "I've been clean now since I've been in the center and feel GREAT!" and then a four-second written blurb of "Mark stayed sober for six months. He has since relapsed."
That show makes ME want to shoot up.
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Intervention and 600 lb life are mirrors of each other. Nobody would ever say those on inhervention are using their sexual abuse as an excuse yet 80% of those folks have abuse history. That type of obesity is not the result of just shear laziness alone. It is not.0
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I just discovered this show last week.0
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I like it so far.0
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Intervention and 600 lb life are mirrors of each other. Nobody would ever say those on inhervention are using their sexual abuse as an excuse yet 80% of those folks have abuse history. That type of obesity is not the result of just shear laziness alone. It is not.
I noticed that Comcast has a bunch of seasons of Intervention on demand now, and I've been watching them while I'm off work sick. One I watched yesterday had 2 sisters who were molested as children. One grew up to be a heroin addict, and the other grew up to be morbidly obese. Both still had serious psychological issues due to the molestation. I doubt it's a coincidence.0
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