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Processed foods
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My rule of thumb is no packaged meals or snacks (we all, however, will have our cheat day every once in a while). I find recipes on the internet for muffins and snacks. People get fooled by those 100 calorie snacks which are such a scam. Look at the nutritional value in those. I can snack on a 1/4 cup of almonds and feel full and satisfied for a few hours. If you really want to go serious, check out the Paleo diet.0
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I never was fat cause I moved around all the time while still eating TONS of sugar, which people seem to think and preach about making people fat. Also, it is not genetic. My youngest brother is over 300lbs. We grew up with the same diet but he was part of the "stay in and play video games" generation, while I was the "play outside from dawn to dusk" generation.
Wait till the Doc tells you that you are diabetic, All the running around you do wont mean a hoot. Keep pumping that suger and salt into your body, cause you will grow older and thats when the real fun starts !0 -
Still better than a hot pocket.
And how do the veggies get frozen and bagged? Processing...0 -
Yeah I will just like my 90 year old grandparents who eat the same way I do without health problems glad I am a special snowflake
Wait till the Doc tells you that you are diabetic, All the running around you do wont mean a hoot. Keep pumping that suger and salt into your body, cause you will grow older and thats when the real fun starts !0 -
Wait till the Doc tells you that you are diabetic, All the running around you do wont mean a hoot. Keep pumping that suger and salt into your body, cause you will grow older and thats when the real fun starts !
Implying that sugar intake causes diabetes irrespective of body mass and cardiovascular health0 -
Implying that sugar intake causes diabetes irrespective of body mass and cardiovascular health
Not implying anything , just telling what might happen !0 -
Yeah I will just like my 90 year old grandparents who eat the same way I do without health problems glad I am a special snowflake
Hey its your life pal ! Make your bets !0 -
Not implying anything , just telling what might happen !
You're saying that he's significantly more likely to become diabetic because of his sugar intake, despite his level of fitness and body composition.
There is pretty much zero data to support that claim.
People are entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.0 -
You're saying that he's significantly more likely to become diabetic because of his sugar intake, despite his level of fitness and body composition.
There is pretty much zero data to support that claim.
People are entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.
And if you cross the street during rush hour traffic you could just get hit by a car or a truck or a plane or a train, of coarse thats just my opinion
its also called common sense.
Are you saying that if your mass is big that it does not matter how much sugar or salt you intake it has no bearing on your health ?
Where are you getting these facts from ?0 -
Not implying anything , just telling what might happen !
Sugar does not cause diabetes.0 -
And if you cross the street during rush hour traffic you could just get hit by a car or a truck or a plane or a train, of coarse thats just my opinion
its also called common sense.
Are you saying that if your mass is big that it does not matter how much sugar or salt you intake it has no bearing on your health ?
Where are you getting these facts from ?
I'm saying that sugar doesn't cause diabetes. You are under the mistaken impression that it does.0 -
I'm saying that sugar doesn't cause diabetes. You are under the mistaken impression that it does.
Okay LOL Quote ( There is pretty much zero data to support that claim.
People are entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts. )0 -
Okay LOL Quote ( There is pretty much zero data to support that claim.
People are entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts. )
Produce scientific data that sugar causes diabetes irrespective of calorie intake, body composition, etc. I'm expecting something like a randomized control trial, case control trial, or prospective cohort study.
Seriously. If you have solid data that establishes a causative link between sugar consumption and diabetes within the confines of a calorie-controlled diet in active people of healthy body mass and low body fat, I will eat my hat.0 -
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Not implying anything , just telling what might happen !
According to Mayo Clinic main risk factors for diabetes include being overweight, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, high blood pressure, inactivity, gestational diabetes, PCOS, race, family history.
Use of sugar and salt not in that list.0 -
According to Mayo Clinic main risk factors for diabetes include being overweight, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, high blood pressure, inactivity, gestational diabetes, PCOS, race, family history.
Use of sugar and salt not in that list.
There are no ingrediants on that list, what would be a contribution to high cholesterol, high trglycerides, high blood pressure, what are contributing factors to those conditions ?0 -
There are no ingrediants on that list, what would be a contribution to high cholesterol, high trglycerides, high blood pressure, what are contributing factors to those conditions ?
Eating too much of pretty much anything and not moving enough causes those conditions. Many people that eat sugar and salt have healthy weights, normal blood work and normal blood pressure. If you can't control your intake,then maybe you should avoid these substance as much as you can. Doesn't mean than others shouldn't enjoy them.0 -
Produce scientific data that sugar causes diabetes irrespective of calorie intake, body composition, etc. I'm expecting something like a randomized control trial, case control trial, or prospective cohort study.
Seriously. If you have solid data that establishes a causative link between sugar consumption and diabetes within the confines of a calorie-controlled diet in active people of healthy body mass and low body fat, I will eat my hat.
There is your answer --within the confines of a calorie-controlled diet. I never said that you could not have sugar. If you are not in the confines of a calorie-controlled diet then over-consumption of sugar regardless of body mass and low body fat will over a period of time have an impact on your health and can be a contributing factor in having diabetic problems.0 -
There are no ingrediants on that list, what would be a contribution to high cholesterol, high trglycerides, high blood pressure, what are contributing factors to those conditions ?
Mostly excess calorie intake and sedentary lifestyle.0 -
Eating too much of pretty much anything and not moving enough causes those conditions. Many people that eat sugar and salt have healthy weights, normal blood work and normal blood pressure. If you can't control your intake,then maybe you should avoid these substance as much as you can. Doesn't mean than others shouldn't enjoy them.
You need to read all the posts. Never said nobody could not enjoy them. If you have total disregard to your consumption then so be it.0 -
There is your answer --within the confines of a calorie-controlled diet. I never said that you could not have sugar. If you are not in the confines of a calorie-controlled diet then over-consumption of sugar regardless of body mass and low body fat will over a period of time have an impact on your health and can be a contributing factor in having diabetic problems.
Oh, so you think eric_sg61 is not on a calorie-controlled diet, and that's why you predicted he will get diabetes.
He clearly has zero control over his calorie intake.0 -
Nope never said that. My entire point is you can not tell people to eat as much sugar as they like with out any regards to what may or may not happen later in life. Hey Like I told him its your lives , Place your bets !0
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What I'm saying is that sugar and salt consumption do not cause diabetes. You are the one predicting that someone will get diabetes by eating sugar and salt even though they are normal weight and are active.
Do you have any data that proves that even if someone eats a lot sugar but has normal weight etc and is active has a higher risk of diabetes?0 -
Telling him that he will get it it or that he might get it are two different things. Maybe I should have said, Hey Eric later in life you may run into a problem if you consume way to much sugar. Maybe just maybe as you get older things change. Never said no-no -no you cant have any sugar.0
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Do you have any data that it doesn't ? If you read those studies you quoted and dug a little deeper into what are contributing factors to those on that list over consumption of salt and sugars will be on those list. Notice I am not saying no-sugar -no salt- .0
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I'm not sure I've ever seen a straw man argument and backtracking occur simultaneously before.0
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I'm not sure I've ever seen a straw man argument and backtracking occur simultaneously before.
Read your own posts.0 -
Read your own posts.
Dude you basically told Eric that he's going to get diabetes because of his sugar intake, despite his obviously excellent fitness and calorie/macro control.
It was a silly, indefensible claim borne of the common myth that sugar causes diabetes.0 -
Oh, so you think eric_sg61 is not on a calorie-controlled diet, and that's why you predicted he will get diabetes.
He clearly has zero control over his calorie intake.
Walking diabetes time-bomb if I ever saw one.
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You wrote:Telling him that he will get it it or that he might get it are two different things. Maybe I should have said, Hey Eric later in life you may run into a problem if you consume way to much sugar. Maybe just maybe as you get older things change. Never said no-no -no you cant have any sugar.
Wait till the Doc tells you that you are diabetic, All the running around you do wont mean a hoot. Keep pumping that suger and salt into your body, cause you will grow older and thats when the real fun starts !
Seems more of a prediction than a caution......0
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