Processed foods
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don't really care. you shouldn't have responded to me.it was a rhetorical question
there is no difference of nutrition between sucrose from fruits or sucrose from candy
I think it was an arsey question personally. To each their own. This thread wasn't about sucrose or the difference in chemical composition of processed versus unprocessed .. It was the OP asking how to cut what many of us deem to be everyday processed foods. Perhaps you should start a new thread to continue the debate you're having?0 -
That really DID make me laugh out loud!0
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It's easy to over eat. Even easier when even savoury processed food has added sugar to enhance flavour.
This is pretty much exactly what I'm talking about.
You're literally saying that since it's easy to overeat really flavorful foods, you should avoid those foods. Why do you want to condemn people to a lifetime of less-flavorful food that they enjoy less?
That's not a long-term sustainable answer. A better answer is to eat those foods you love, but learn how to do it while hitting appropriate nutrient and calorie goals. "Avoid sugar!" isn't a plan for life, it's a stupid pointless warning that does more harm than good.
No - I'm saying if the general population maybe ate more fresh, home cooked food and a little less processed food then they would have calories to spare to enjoy ice cream for dessert and everyone would be a little less overweight.0 -
whats the difference? Can you tell me chemically?
No difference chemically, but that wasn't what i was trying to land. I know you can eat ice cream and still stick to a calorie deficit if you so wish. Hell, I even had an ice cream yesterday myself. And stuck to my calorie goal.
This is a thread about processed food and obesity though.
It's easy to over eat. Even easier when even savoury processed food has added sugar to enhance flavour.
The bolded statements kind of contradict themselves. Sugar has nothing to do with any of this. It's the villian of the decade that's all. It's been beef in the past, cholesterol, fat... Right now it's sugar.
So you GENUINELY think that obesity is all down to poeple stuffing their faces with too much home cooked fresh food?
LULWUT? :noway: :laugh:0 -
whats the difference? Can you tell me chemically?
No difference chemically, but that wasn't what i was trying to land. I know you can eat ice cream and still stick to a calorie deficit if you so wish. Hell, I even had an ice cream yesterday myself. And stuck to my calorie goal.
This is a thread about processed food and obesity though.
It's easy to over eat. Even easier when even savoury processed food has added sugar to enhance flavour.
The bolded statements kind of contradict themselves. Sugar has nothing to do with any of this. It's the villian of the decade that's all. It's been beef in the past, cholesterol, fat... Right now it's sugar.
So you GENUINELY think that obesity is all down to poeple stuffing their faces with too much home cooked fresh food?
LULWUT? :noway: :laugh:
I got fat eating my grandmother's gumbo and fried chicken. It wasn't ice cream or pop tarts.0 -
Had some obese relatives on my "hillbilly" side of the family that ate nothing but home cokked meals. Pass dem taters and conebreadwhats the difference? Can you tell me chemically?
No difference chemically, but that wasn't what i was trying to land. I know you can eat ice cream and still stick to a calorie deficit if you so wish. Hell, I even had an ice cream yesterday myself. And stuck to my calorie goal.
This is a thread about processed food and obesity though.
It's easy to over eat. Even easier when even savoury processed food has added sugar to enhance flavour.
The bolded statements kind of contradict themselves. Sugar has nothing to do with any of this. It's the villian of the decade that's all. It's been beef in the past, cholesterol, fat... Right now it's sugar.
So you GENUINELY think that obesity is all down to poeple stuffing their faces with too much home cooked fresh food?
LULWUT? :noway: :laugh:0 -
Bowing out of this now.0
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Had some obese relatives on my "hillbilly" side of the family that ate nothing but home cokked meals. Pass dem taters and conebreadwhats the difference? Can you tell me chemically?
No difference chemically, but that wasn't what i was trying to land. I know you can eat ice cream and still stick to a calorie deficit if you so wish. Hell, I even had an ice cream yesterday myself. And stuck to my calorie goal.
This is a thread about processed food and obesity though.
It's easy to over eat. Even easier when even savoury processed food has added sugar to enhance flavour.
The bolded statements kind of contradict themselves. Sugar has nothing to do with any of this. It's the villian of the decade that's all. It's been beef in the past, cholesterol, fat... Right now it's sugar.
So you GENUINELY think that obesity is all down to poeple stuffing their faces with too much home cooked fresh food?
LULWUT? :noway: :laugh:
Oh yeah, cornbread. And ears of corn slathered in butter. Mashed potatoes loaded with cream and butter. Fried eggs and bacon and biscuits with milk for breakfast.
This was all made from scratch from fresh ingredients.
Excess calories + sedentary lifestyle = obesity, heart disease, and diabetes. Sugar and excess calories are not synonymous. I eat more sugar now than I ever did.0 -
lol @ home cooked meals not being considered processed
Had some obese relatives on my "hillbilly" side of the family that ate nothing but home cokked meals. Pass dem taters and conebreadwhats the difference? Can you tell me chemically?
No difference chemically, but that wasn't what i was trying to land. I know you can eat ice cream and still stick to a calorie deficit if you so wish. Hell, I even had an ice cream yesterday myself. And stuck to my calorie goal.
This is a thread about processed food and obesity though.
It's easy to over eat. Even easier when even savoury processed food has added sugar to enhance flavour.
The bolded statements kind of contradict themselves. Sugar has nothing to do with any of this. It's the villian of the decade that's all. It's been beef in the past, cholesterol, fat... Right now it's sugar.
So you GENUINELY think that obesity is all down to poeple stuffing their faces with too much home cooked fresh food?
LULWUT? :noway: :laugh:
Oh yeah, cornbread. And ears of corn slathered in butter. Mashed potatoes loaded with cream and butter. Fried eggs and bacon and biscuits with milk for breakfast.
This was all made from scratch from fresh ingredients.
Excess calories + sedentary lifestyle = obesity, heart disease, and diabetes. Sugar and excess calories are not synonymous. I eat more sugar now than I ever did.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA0 -
Of course it's processed. Emma said " home cooked fresh food" which she clearly believes to mean "non-processed" which is nonsensical. So I talked about getting fat on home cooked food. Like a lot of people do.0
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oh please.
yes I do believe my home cooked food to be not processed when quite obviously you're taking the word "processed" out of the context of this debate.
We all know that processed in this context refers to pre-made foods and fast food etc....
We are not talking about processed to mean food that has not been washed, chopped, peeled, steamed, baked, boiled etc...0 -
We all know that processed in this context refers to pre-made foods and fast food etc....
Apparently we don't, because that definition is meaningless, arbitrary, and has no actual derivation from the word "processed."0 -
Of course it's processed. Emma said " home cooked fresh food" which she clearly believes to mean "non-processed" which is nonsensical. So I talked about getting fat on home cooked food. Like a lot of people do.
Count the posts they have, and you'll see into their souls...It's like a guy on the plane who never shuts up....They're incapable.0 -
oh please.
yes I do believe my home cooked food to be not processed when quite obviously you're taking the word "processed" out of the context of this debate.
We all know that processed in this context refers to pre-made foods and fast food etc....
We are not talking about processed to mean food that has not been washed, chopped, peeled, steamed, baked, boiled etc...
He's just compensating for insecurities, along with the other guy in this thread (with the fake 8-pack profile pic) who has never, to my knowledge, said anything helpful, supportive, kind, un-sarcastic or just plain nice.0 -
oh please.
yes I do believe my home cooked food to be not processed when quite obviously you're taking the word "processed" out of the context of this debate.
We all know that processed in this context refers to pre-made foods and fast food etc....
We are not talking about processed to mean food that has not been washed, chopped, peeled, steamed, baked, boiled etc...
He's just compensating for insecurities, along with the other guy in this thread (with the fake 8-pack profile pic) who has never, to my knowledge, said anything helpful, supportive, kind, un-sarcastic or just plain nice.
What I'm actually doing is trying to prevent people from unnecessarily and irrationally making people think that food they love is inherently unhealthy and incompatible with their goals, thus setting them up for failure when their willpower ultimately gives out.
Abstinence is not the answer. That applies to sugar just as well as it applies to sex.0 -
oh please.
yes I do believe my home cooked food to be not processed when quite obviously you're taking the word "processed" out of the context of this debate.
We all know that processed in this context refers to pre-made foods and fast food etc....
We are not talking about processed to mean food that has not been washed, chopped, peeled, steamed, baked, boiled etc...
He's just compensating for insecurities, along with the other guy in this thread (with the fake 8-pack profile pic) who has never, to my knowledge, said anything helpful, supportive, kind, un-sarcastic or just plain nice.
I see you're new here. Welcome to MFP. (Or is this not your first (or only) MFP account?)
Interesting diagnosis you have made based on review of his forum posts in this thread. I disagree with your conclusion, but nonetheless, it is interesting.
Based on the two posts of your that I have ever seen myself, I'm not yet convinced that you are particularly helpful, supportive, kind, or "plain nice" either...
...but it would be presumptuous (and not plain nice) of me to make that accusation based only on your forum posts.
I wish you nothing but success in all your fitness and health goals. You got this! :flowerforyou: - ©20130 -
whats the difference? Can you tell me chemically?
No difference chemically, but that wasn't what i was trying to land. I know you can eat ice cream and still stick to a calorie deficit if you so wish. Hell, I even had an ice cream yesterday myself. And stuck to my calorie goal.
This is a thread about processed food and obesity though.
It's easy to over eat. Even easier when even savoury processed food has added sugar to enhance flavour.
The bolded statements kind of contradict themselves. Sugar has nothing to do with any of this. It's the villian of the decade that's all. It's been beef in the past, cholesterol, fat... Right now it's sugar.
So you GENUINELY think that obesity is all down to poeple stuffing their faces with too much home cooked fresh food?
LULWUT? :noway: :laugh:
Yes. Too much food, regardless of source, is the problem. You will get fat off excess calories, period.0 -
oh please.
yes I do believe my home cooked food to be not processed when quite obviously you're taking the word "processed" out of the context of this debate.
We all know that processed in this context refers to pre-made foods and fast food etc....
We are not talking about processed to mean food that has not been washed, chopped, peeled, steamed, baked, boiled etc...
He's just compensating for insecurities, along with the other guy in this thread (with the fake 8-pack profile pic) who has never, to my knowledge, said anything helpful, supportive, kind, un-sarcastic or just plain nice.
I'm pretty sure trying to correct bad information in the face of an onslaught of ignorance is helpful. At least it is for those of us who actually care of about the science of nutrition and not what is preached by Dr. Oz on daytime TV.0 -
I'm not talking about abstinence, I'm talking about home cooking and knowing the providence of your food to avoid hidden calories from completely unnecessary chemical additives.0
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And now I'm being painted as someone completely ignorant of nutrition and a proponent of fad diets because i advocate eating fresh food??
THIS SITE :sad:0 -
'm talking about home cooking and knowing the providence of your food to avoid hidden calories from completely unnecessary chemical additives.
Hidden calories from unnecessary chemical additives?
I wonder how many hidden calories I'm consuming from unnecessary chemical additives. Let me look at my data.
Calorie deficit for the last month was 9,532. In that time I lost 3.2 pounds.
I guess I'm somehow avoiding those "hidden calories" from the "chemical additives."
I wonder which chemical additives you think have hidden calories, anyway?0 -
oh please.
yes I do believe my home cooked food to be not processed when quite obviously you're taking the word "processed" out of the context of this debate.
We all know that processed in this context refers to pre-made foods and fast food etc....
We are not talking about processed to mean food that has not been washed, chopped, peeled, steamed, baked, boiled etc...
He's just compensating for insecurities, along with the other guy in this thread (with the fake 8-pack profile pic) who has never, to my knowledge, said anything helpful, supportive, kind, un-sarcastic or just plain nice.
I see you're new here. Welcome to MFP. (Or is this not your first (or only) MFP account?)
Interesting diagnosis you have made based on review of his forum posts in this thread. I disagree with your conclusion, but nonetheless, it is interesting.
Based on the two posts of your that I have ever seen myself, I'm not yet convinced that you are particularly helpful, supportive, kind, or "plain nice" either...
...but it would be presumptuous (and not plain nice) of me to make that accusation based only on your forum posts.
I wish you nothing but success in all your fitness and health goals. You got this! :flowerforyou: - ©2013
I make no apolgies...I allow myself to be annoyed by sarcastic, snarky jerks. Do I act like one, at times? Absolutely.
Have I ever insulted a person for asking a simple, obviously well-intentioned question such as this? No.0 -
And now I'm being painted as someone completely ignorant of nutrition and a proponent of fad diets because i advocate eating fresh food??
THIS SITE :sad:
No, it's because you think obesity cannot be caused by home cooked food, you think "chemical additives" have "hidden calories," etc.0 -
And now I'm being painted as someone completely ignorant of nutrition and a proponent of fad diets because i advocate eating fresh food??
THIS SITE :sad:
No, it's because you think obesity cannot be caused by home cooked food, you think "chemical additives" have "hidden calories," etc.
QFT0 -
And now I'm being painted as someone completely ignorant of nutrition and a proponent of fad diets because i advocate eating fresh food??
THIS SITE :sad:
I actually wasn't referring to you. I don't agree with you but you also so far seem to be having a pretty reasonable discussion. Most of the onslaught in here occurred much earlier and has been deleted by the mods. think the other guys are doing a pretty good job at discussing this with you socratic method style though. I'd listen.0 -
oh please.
yes I do believe my home cooked food to be not processed when quite obviously you're taking the word "processed" out of the context of this debate.
We all know that processed in this context refers to pre-made foods and fast food etc....
We are not talking about processed to mean food that has not been washed, chopped, peeled, steamed, baked, boiled etc...
He's just compensating for insecurities, along with the other guy in this thread (with the fake 8-pack profile pic) who has never, to my knowledge, said anything helpful, supportive, kind, un-sarcastic or just plain nice.
I'm pretty sure trying to correct bad information in the face of an onslaught of ignorance is helpful. At least it is for those of us who actually care of about the science of nutrition and not what is preached by Dr. Oz on daytime TV.
And I'm VERY sure that it can be done without being mean and sarcastic.
Your "science of nutrition" and "Dr. Oz" jibes just shows you're one of them.
Implying that anyone who has a opinion not aligned with yours is a Jerry Springer/Sally Jesse watcher, an uneducated junk food eater, or a charlatan follower. Well done! You WIN!0 -
Anybody have any good tips as to how to cut out processed foods?
www.eatcleandiet.com I've been following this lifestyle for 1 1/2 years and have cut out processed foods.0 -
oh please.
yes I do believe my home cooked food to be not processed when quite obviously you're taking the word "processed" out of the context of this debate.
We all know that processed in this context refers to pre-made foods and fast food etc....
We are not talking about processed to mean food that has not been washed, chopped, peeled, steamed, baked, boiled etc...
He's just compensating for insecurities, along with the other guy in this thread (with the fake 8-pack profile pic) who has never, to my knowledge, said anything helpful, supportive, kind, un-sarcastic or just plain nice.
I'm pretty sure trying to correct bad information in the face of an onslaught of ignorance is helpful. At least it is for those of us who actually care of about the science of nutrition and not what is preached by Dr. Oz on daytime TV.
And I'm VERY sure that it can be done without being as a**hole. ...
Your "science of nutrition" and "Dr. Oz" jibes just shows you're one of the breed.
Implying that anyone who has a opinion not aligned with yours is a Jerry Springer/Sally Jesse watcher, an uneducated junk food eater, or a charlatan follower.
Well done! A master-of-debate.
Step away and go read some common websites on nutrition information. Look at the number of scare tactics that are used. And yes, seriously listen to Dr. Oz. There you have a gentleman who is very intelligent and a highly qualified surgeon and who, rather than using his talents to help people, has completely sold out. The unfortunate truth is that many people listen to him because he is a doctor.
Once you're done with that, get on pubmed and start doing some real research on nutrition. Once you've educated yourself, then those of us who have already been through that process may concern ourselves with your opinion. Until then, you're just part of the problem and not to be taken all that seriously. Insult me all you want. I'm happy to simply chuckle at the insults and move on.0 -
Well statistically the most obese states are in the South and Midwest. You ever had a home cooked Southern meal............................everyday?So you GENUINELY think that obesity is all down to poeple stuffing their faces with too much home cooked fresh food?
LULWUT? :noway: :laugh:
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I tend to make what I call 'hobo stew' every week, and that can be a few meals: I'm vegetarian, so I buy a bunch of organic raw grains/lentils/legumes like quinoa, lentils, beans, rinse them and put them in a pan of filtered water to cook (and they vary in time etc. so I make sure I know what takes long etc.), and I also put in whatever organic vegetables are on sale that week, and stuff like raw organic garlic and onions etc. for taste. Sometimes I use a can of organic soup or Bragg's aminos if I want it to be easier, and sometimes I chuck in whatever leftovers there are, including stuff that is processed like vegetarian meats etc., but lately I have been so grossed out by the degree of processed food in the place we moved to (NJ) that I am getting much stricter about organic only, and non-crap only. If I get sick of a particular week's stew, I can freeze half and eat things like organic salad, organic fried eggs, whatever. Good luck!0
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