Fine line between counting/logging and obsessing?
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I agree with needing to be obsessed. I lost 45 pounds by meticulously logging EVERY.SINGLE.THING. that went into my mouth. I fell off the wagon after 5 months and haven't gotten back into the obsessive logging phase and it shows...I haven't lost a single half a pound. It's gotta be done. I'm sure some people can get by on estimates but I know I sure can't.0
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I agree with needing to be obsessed. I lost 45 pounds by meticulously logging EVERY.SINGLE.THING. that went into my mouth. I fell off the wagon after 5 months and haven't gotten back into the obsessive logging phase and it shows...I haven't lost a single half a pound. It's gotta be done. I'm sure some people can get by on estimates but I know I sure can't.
Tracking accurately =/= obsession.0 -
It's certainly ok to be dedicated to counting calories/macros and eating a healthy diet -- but, if it becomes so obsessive that it takes over most of your life, time, thoughts and effort, it's not worth it. Just be sure to leave room for life
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christinehuds wrote: »It's certainly ok to be dedicated to counting calories/macros and eating a healthy diet -- but, if it becomes so obsessive that it takes over most of your life, time, thoughts and effort, it's not worth it. Just be sure to leave room for life
^^this.
I think people are not using the word correctly.
I quoted the definition earlier:
Obsessed:
"preoccupy or fill the mind of (someone) continually, intrusively, and to a troubling extent."
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I saw this on Buzzfeed the other day and it made me laugh! Any MFP'er will totally understand!
http://www.buzzfeed.com/catesevilla/hold-on-i-just-need-to-log-this#.pvWBz2Red
Heh yep, I can relate to 99% of this...0 -
christinehuds wrote: »It's certainly ok to be dedicated to counting calories/macros and eating a healthy diet -- but, if it becomes so obsessive that it takes over most of your life, time, thoughts and effort, it's not worth it. Just be sure to leave room for life
^^this.
I think people are not using the word correctly.
I quoted the definition earlier:
Obsessed:
"preoccupy or fill the mind of (someone) continually, intrusively, and to a troubling extent."
^^this is probably true, but for me, this obsession is better than my pre-MFP obsession with eating too much food and being morbidly obese.
I much prefer being a normal weight, and obsessing about logging and staying at or under my calorie count each day. It is just the way it has to be for me.
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snowflake930 wrote: »christinehuds wrote: »It's certainly ok to be dedicated to counting calories/macros and eating a healthy diet -- but, if it becomes so obsessive that it takes over most of your life, time, thoughts and effort, it's not worth it. Just be sure to leave room for life
^^this.
I think people are not using the word correctly.
I quoted the definition earlier:
Obsessed:
"preoccupy or fill the mind of (someone) continually, intrusively, and to a troubling extent."
^^this is probably true, but for me, this obsession is better than my pre-MFP obsession with eating too much food and being morbidly obese.
I much prefer being a normal weight, and obsessing about logging and staying at or under my calorie count each day. It is just the way it has to be for me.
Yes, to clarify what I meant:
I had awful eating habits for my entire life and I discovered healthy eating habits through Weight Watchers, research and lots of hard work. It worked wonderfully and I lost about 60 pounds in 6 months. At that point though, I had become so obsessed that I could think about every moment of every day was losing weight and consuming the right number of calories. It was miserable. I lost touch with friends and family and damaged relationships.
Being dedicated to health is a WONDERFUL habit. Much better than being dedicated to eating fast food everyday. Just be careful, that's all! Don't let it control your life and existence. It's a dark place to be.0 -
I agree with needing to be obsessed. I lost 45 pounds by meticulously logging EVERY.SINGLE.THING. that went into my mouth. I fell off the wagon after 5 months and haven't gotten back into the obsessive logging phase and it shows...I haven't lost a single half a pound. It's gotta be done. I'm sure some people can get by on estimates but I know I sure can't.
All I can say is: Damn girl, if I looked like you I would be obsessed with staying that way
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I would say the only time it is truly obsessive is if it starts to be a constant, nagging (negative) presence. The first time around I definitely went overboard. It caused stress and made me very anxious when I was not able to log. This time, I have a much healthier mindset and don't feel stressed or upset if I screw up.
Bottom line, if it is causing YOU discomfort, then you need to find a way to take a step back and improve your well-being. If you are absolutely fine and it seems that only other people have a problem - brush them off and do what works for you! Good luck.0 -
dawnmcneil10 wrote: »Is it really any different than looking at a price tag before buying something?
I really like this.0 -
dawnmcneil10 wrote: »Is it really any different than looking at a price tag before buying something?
I'd say logging/counting calories is like looking at the price tag before buying something, while being obsessed is being miserly and refusing to spend a dime until you've checked every price from every competitor in a 250 mile radius.
I would call it an obsession if it's negatively affecting those around you. If you're saying stuff like, "No, I can't go out to eat tonight because I've allotted 600 calories for dinner and the place you want to go doesn't offer meals for less than 650 calories, and I can't go over my calories."
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Timorous_Beastie wrote: »dawnmcneil10 wrote: »Is it really any different than looking at a price tag before buying something?
I would call it an obsession if it's negatively affecting those around you. If you're saying stuff like, "No, I can't go out to eat tonight because I've allotted 600 calories for dinner and the place you want to go doesn't offer meals for less than 650 calories, and I can't go over my calories."
I don't even think that is really obsessive. Since when is making more healthful choices obsessive? For example, if your friends wanted to go to Olive Garden (a dieter's nightmare,) and you suggest a more healthful establishment, or one with better options such as a steak house instead, how is that obsessive at all? It's being responsible / health conscientious imo.
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It's funny.....society doesn't call a chef 'obsessive ' when they weigh out the ingredients for a dish. We are weighing out the ingredients to build an amazing, complex human being.
Even horses, cattle and pets get their food monitored and weighed without being accused of being weird!
It makes me wonder just how brain washed we are from the food companies.0 -
If I cut out "unhealthy" food and eat whole grains, lean proteins, fruits, and vegetables, then I fill up before I eat excessive calories. But I like a treat fairly often, and to fit treats in my diet without overdoing it, I need to log.
I'm sure it could be argued that eating healthier would be the better way.
But I don't want to live that way.
I do eat healthy most of the time, but what would life be without dessert and wine?0 -
Obsessing means you think about it all the time and it intrudes on your other activities. I think of it as persistent. I consistently log everything that goes into my mouth. I will log when I'm out, but only if (1) it's 'just' my husband with me or (2) there's a lull in the conversation and I log under the table and it doesn't take me away from my social duties with friends. Otherwise I just remember.
People say you're obsessing about food if you think about what you're putting in your mouth. People tell me I don't have to because I'm 'so thin'. Well, that's why I am. Because I think about it.
To Sidesteel: I am pretty sure I could maintain without logging. But I like to log. It's like brushing my teeth. I don't think about it, I just do it.0 -
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This is the whole reason I took up ADF. I would obsess over the calories. If anything was over 50cal I would not eat it. It was developing into an ED.
Now I simply don't eat 3 days a week, and then eat whatever I want the other 4..... and I do eat what I want. Without putting on weight.
I also get a better workout on the non-eating days. 0cals 3 days a week then gives me about 3000+ cals extra I can eat the following day.
Win/Win0 -
amandarunning wrote: »Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated...
Are you serious? I'm more than dedicated. And even I became obsessed.
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Steph38878 wrote: »I think you have to be obsessed to a certain extent. It becomes a part of who you are. Like second nature.
Not true. Not for everyone anyway.
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It's possible that some mistake being selfish for being obsessive. To make a concerted effort to change your lifestyle probably requires a certain amount of selfishness, even if you are doing it for the best of reasons (e.g. to be around to watch your grandkids grow up etc.), because you are having to think about yourself to a degree that those around us might not find socially acceptable.
I think society wants maintaining weight loss to be effortless, and part of that is the ability to eat without a degree of mindfulness/consciousness, so absolutely no pulling out your phone to log what you've just eaten. I know friends/colleagues want me, as a successful loser, to demonstrate that it's easy to maintain my loss, and if I logged in front of them, they would call me "obsessive". They don't see the hard work I've put in because I'm not chosen to share that with them. Because I'm selfish.
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amandarunning wrote: »Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated...
Sorry, but this is absurd. Fits? Thinspo? whatever.0 -
Who are you calling a troll? The person with the insipid quote? Or sidesteel?lessismoreohio wrote: »Lrdoflamancha wrote: »amandarunning wrote: »Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated...
This is ridiculous.
Ridiculous probably.... But it is also the truth...
This is a bunch of fitspo garbage and it's insulting to people who actually develop obsessive attitudes towards their diet.
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How do YOU know what THEY are thinking and feeling?amandarunning wrote: »I kind of like the quote but hey ho each to their own...
Personally I've often been told, "you're obsessed" "you don't need to lose weight" or "you exercise too much" and frequently those feeling in a position to comment are simply deflecting their own (over) weight and (lack of) fitness issues.
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I think a true test of if you should change your habits boils down to is it affecting your relationships with others?
If friends simply mention that you're obsessed and poke fun at it, that's one thing. If you're losing friends because you sit on your phone the whole meal and freak out about everything that you're putting in your mouth or if you are constantly talking about MyFitnessPal, it's time to reexamine your priorities.
I was certainly there when I was losing weight, but after I saw it affecting some friendships, I realized no number on a scale to me is worth the relationships I form with people0 -
Let others think what they want. What matters is what works for each of us as individuals. I'm doing exactly what I need to do in order to reach the goal I've set for myself. I have my doctor's permission, his support, and everyone else can go suck a toad. They don't matter. Their opinion is of no consequence. They aren't living my life, in my body, with everything that goes right or wrong with this body based on the food choices made in the past and in the present.
Don't worry about the words used by others to describe what they think they see, and what they think they understand. It's your life and your body. Do what is best for you and tell them to suck a toad!0 -
As others have said, I'd rather obsess about it then be unhealthy again. It's what works. People think obsessing is a bad thing in all circumstances. Keep doing what works!0
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
How do YOU know what THEY are thinking and feeling?amandarunning wrote: »I kind of like the quote but hey ho each to their own...
Personally I've often been told, "you're obsessed" "you don't need to lose weight" or "you exercise too much" and frequently those feeling in a position to comment are simply deflecting their own (over) weight and (lack of) fitness issues.
Wow...just wow.
Edit - just has to google thinspo....seriously wow!
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In the beginning, logging seems tedious and overwhelming. Logging consistently, like you are doing, is best. People may think you are being obsessive, but will soon know you are serious about your health! They may get curious and want to follow you:) Logging does become second nature. Remember to enjoy a meal you do love once a week. And log it!! If you go over, balance out your meal next day. It's been great for me! I've been logging for a little over a year now!! One more thing: life is too short...enjoy this process!! Best to you!!0
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I always get criticized for counting calories from the people around me. They ask me how I lost the weight and I tell them about calorie logging. Most of the time they have negative responses. So I just say well it works for me and for some it just doesn't. Please add me. 0
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Think of counting calories as being creative. You're creating a new body. And let's face it, nobody else in the universe is going to create it for you. Obsess away I say.0
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