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Liftng4Lis wrote: »Seriously, why are you drinking your meals? Yogurt is less expensive than protein powder.
Agreed, metabolism prefers solid foods than liquid food
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Your friend is an idiot. Find new friends.
You basically got it - you COULD get fat eating protein, apples, eggs, bananas, carrots, WHATEVER if it is over your TDEE for an extended period of time. It is calories in, calories out - always.0 -
capriqueen wrote: »
Ok... I guess I will up my calories then. I have been targeting 2 pounds a week.... I set my lifestyle to sedentary and it gave me 1960 calories. Should I be eating at around 700 calories maybe?capriqueen wrote: »
At your weight that's still not enough. especially if you aren't eating back your exercise calories. I'm guessing you set your goal to 2lb/week? I started out at 188, did my loss at 1lb/week or less and am 160 now or less (haven't weighed in a while). If I'd tried losing 2lbs/week I'd have been miserable.
You will not gain weight by eating x food. CICO. But you need to be eating enough food to make this into a lifestyle AND to actually stay committed to your weight loss efforts.
You should be eating the calories they advised, as the deficit is already built in.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »capriqueen wrote: »
Ok... I guess I will up my calories then. I have been targeting 2 pounds a week.... I set my lifestyle to sedentary and it gave me 1960 calories. Should I be eating at around 700 calories maybe?capriqueen wrote: »
At your weight that's still not enough. especially if you aren't eating back your exercise calories. I'm guessing you set your goal to 2lb/week? I started out at 188, did my loss at 1lb/week or less and am 160 now or less (haven't weighed in a while). If I'd tried losing 2lbs/week I'd have been miserable.
You will not gain weight by eating x food. CICO. But you need to be eating enough food to make this into a lifestyle AND to actually stay committed to your weight loss efforts.
You should be eating the calories they advised, as the deficit is already built in.
1960 was my TDEE...not the calories I was advised.0 -
NO, you're just sated longer with solids. Metabolism is not affected one way or the other.shaleeny88 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »Seriously, why are you drinking your meals? Yogurt is less expensive than protein powder.
Agreed, metabolism prefers solid foods than liquid food
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shaleeny88 wrote: »Natural protein is good... But protein from shakes or bars has a ridiculous amount of sugar. Best stick to natural protein.
Doesn't matter if they have sugar unless you are diabetic. Sugar doesn't make people fat or kill them.
Err sugar is a dirty carb, that needs reducing just like any other bad carbs. I didn't say it makes you fat, its definitely not healthy
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »
NO, you're just sated longer with solids. Metabolism is not affected one way or the other.shaleeny88 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »Seriously, why are you drinking your meals? Yogurt is less expensive than protein powder.
Agreed, metabolism prefers solid foods than liquid food
Right. Monetarily, the protein powder worked out cheaper for me as I bought Body Fortress. The greek yogurt is a little more expensive.
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capriqueen wrote: »
Ok... I guess I will up my calories then. I have been targeting 2 pounds a week.... I set my lifestyle to sedentary and it gave me 1960 calories. Should I be eating at around 700 calories maybe?capriqueen wrote: »
At your weight that's still not enough. especially if you aren't eating back your exercise calories. I'm guessing you set your goal to 2lb/week? I started out at 188, did my loss at 1lb/week or less and am 160 now or less (haven't weighed in a while). If I'd tried losing 2lbs/week I'd have been miserable.
You will not gain weight by eating x food. CICO. But you need to be eating enough food to make this into a lifestyle AND to actually stay committed to your weight loss efforts.
What? you mean 1700? You don't NEED to up your calories, but if you are eating 1200 or less every day and not eating back exercise calories then you are not eating enough. Log your exercise, eat at least half the calories. If it set your net maintenance to 1960 then as long as you net below that you will lose. But honestly, at your weight there's no real need to aim for 2lb/week.
Also with such a low protein goal you should be able to reach that without protein powder. I can reach that in my first two meals wtihout powders, I only use powder when baking (not always though) or if I'm in a rush.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »
NO, you're just sated longer with solids. Metabolism is not affected one way or the other.shaleeny88 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »Seriously, why are you drinking your meals? Yogurt is less expensive than protein powder.
Agreed, metabolism prefers solid foods than liquid food
With solid food you stay full for longer as your body takes its time to break down the food., a lot of people on here who complain about getting hungry often usually have a lot of shakes/smoothies in their diet.0 -
shaleeny88 wrote: »shaleeny88 wrote: »Natural protein is good... But protein from shakes or bars has a ridiculous amount of sugar. Best stick to natural protein.
Doesn't matter if they have sugar unless you are diabetic. Sugar doesn't make people fat or kill them.
Err sugar is a dirty carb, that needs reducing just like any other bad carbs. I didn't say it makes you fat, its definitely not healthy
There is no bad food
just TOO MUCH is what can makes something unhealthy Thats all.
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So you don't eat fruit then?shaleeny88 wrote: »shaleeny88 wrote: »Natural protein is good... But protein from shakes or bars has a ridiculous amount of sugar. Best stick to natural protein.
Doesn't matter if they have sugar unless you are diabetic. Sugar doesn't make people fat or kill them.
Err sugar is a dirty carb, that needs reducing just like any other bad carbs. I didn't say it makes you fat, its definitely not healthy
Healthy is subjective. I'm not going to bother getting into THIS again though, because I'm seriously done with people who think sugar is evil. Not even worth setting the record straight anymore.
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emily_stew wrote: »shaleeny88 wrote: »shaleeny88 wrote: »Natural protein is good... But protein from shakes or bars has a ridiculous amount of sugar. Best stick to natural protein.
Doesn't matter if they have sugar unless you are diabetic. Sugar doesn't make people fat or kill them.
Err sugar is a dirty carb, that needs reducing just like any other bad carbs. I didn't say it makes you fat, its definitely not healthy
A dirty carb? Dirty, dirty carb.
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shaleeny88 wrote: »shaleeny88 wrote: »Natural protein is good... But protein from shakes or bars has a ridiculous amount of sugar. Best stick to natural protein.
Doesn't matter if they have sugar unless you are diabetic. Sugar doesn't make people fat or kill them.
Err sugar is a dirty carb, that needs reducing just like any other bad carbs. I didn't say it makes you fat, its definitely not healthy
WHAT??? There are no dirty carbs!
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So you don't eat fruit then?shaleeny88 wrote: »shaleeny88 wrote: »Natural protein is good... But protein from shakes or bars has a ridiculous amount of sugar. Best stick to natural protein.
Doesn't matter if they have sugar unless you are diabetic. Sugar doesn't make people fat or kill them.
Err sugar is a dirty carb, that needs reducing just like any other bad carbs. I didn't say it makes you fat, its definitely not healthy
Healthy is subjective. I'm not going to bother getting into THIS again though, because I'm seriously done with people who think sugar is evil. Not even worth setting the record straight anymore.
Yes I eat fruits which have natural sugars.
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shaleeny88 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »
NO, you're just sated longer with solids. Metabolism is not affected one way or the other.shaleeny88 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »Seriously, why are you drinking your meals? Yogurt is less expensive than protein powder.
Agreed, metabolism prefers solid foods than liquid food
With solid food you stay full for longer as your body takes its time to break down the food., a lot of people on here who complain about getting hungry often usually have a lot of shakes/smoothies in their diet.
Smoothies don't make me hungry. Assumptions.0 -
shaleeny88 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »
NO, you're just sated longer with solids. Metabolism is not affected one way or the other.shaleeny88 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »Seriously, why are you drinking your meals? Yogurt is less expensive than protein powder.
Agreed, metabolism prefers solid foods than liquid food
With solid food you stay full for longer as your body takes its time to break down the food., a lot of people on here who complain about getting hungry often usually have a lot of shakes/smoothies in their diet.
Smoothies don't make me hungry. Assumptions.
You keep manoeuvring away from the point mades "a lot of people on here who complain about being hungry"
I didn't say everyone who eats liquid food.
Get over it seriously0 -
shaleeny88 wrote: »shaleeny88 wrote: »Natural protein is good... But protein from shakes or bars has a ridiculous amount of sugar. Best stick to natural protein.
Doesn't matter if they have sugar unless you are diabetic. Sugar doesn't make people fat or kill them.
Err sugar is a dirty carb, that needs reducing just like any other bad carbs. I didn't say it makes you fat, its definitely not healthy
My protein powder has just 1g sugar per serving... and I have just a 2/3 serving per day... so I guess it shouldn't hurt?0 -
shaleeny88 wrote: »
So you don't eat fruit then?shaleeny88 wrote: »shaleeny88 wrote: »Natural protein is good... But protein from shakes or bars has a ridiculous amount of sugar. Best stick to natural protein.
Doesn't matter if they have sugar unless you are diabetic. Sugar doesn't make people fat or kill them.
Err sugar is a dirty carb, that needs reducing just like any other bad carbs. I didn't say it makes you fat, its definitely not healthy
Healthy is subjective. I'm not going to bother getting into THIS again though, because I'm seriously done with people who think sugar is evil. Not even worth setting the record straight anymore.
Yes I eat fruits which have natural sugars.
OP please disregard any anti-sugar advice you are given or read about on these forums.
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