I don't eat clean. I won't eat clean. It's a stupid concept.

BleedsCoffee

By "eating clean", we all mean washing our dishes prior to putting food on them, right?

deadbeatsummer

90% of threads on here could be resolved and closed down if people just accepted that:

THERE IS MORE THAN ONE WAY TO LOSE WEIGHT. DO IT HOW YOU WANT TO.

MrsJ0826

LOL.. wow this got serious.. LOL

ThinUpGirl

If I forced myself to eat clean, I would be a binger.

I need to be allowed to drink my coffee with cream and sugar, and have pizza, and the occasional bowl of ice cream. If I need to grab a quick burger - I need the freedom to do that.

I rarely even fit my macros - the only thing I try to do is stick within my daily calorie limit and get my required protein.


When I force myself to eat "properly" I become a miserable cranky person who is much more inclined to eat an entire bag of doritos with salsa and sour cream.

When I allow myself to have some treats, I am much happier, and it works better for me.


If you are a clean eater, and happy - great job! But I don't feel it is the only way to achieve success.


p.s. I feel the need to prove visually that this method works for me, so here is a recent progress pic:

^^^^ THIS. Btw, you look amazing

I've never been a clean eater, in fact my five year old eats better than me when it comes to whole foods. Eating clean is something I am learning to do simply because I want to be healthy. However, If i banish all the things I crave (Pizza, French Fries and Chicken Wings), I gorge on them. I just try to stick to my daily calorie goal and try not to have pizza more than once a week.

This works for me.

sixout

WHY ARE YOU ALL STILL HERE?

BrainyBurro

WHY ARE YOU ALL STILL HERE?

Well, this WAS a stupid topic to start with, anyway....

not stupid at all. just not something you wanted to hear. i'm frustrated seeing all of the people struggling on this site trying to live up to an impossible standard. do you think guilt and shame are useful ways to help people lose weight? i don't. but i can show you lots of people posting how guilty or ashamed they feel just because they "slipped" and ate a slice of pizza. i even know 1 person on here who's marriage got shaky because her husband adopted a paleo lifestyle and became a fanatic about it. this sort of orthorexia comes from any sort of diet where people are told that certain foods are "bad" or "unhealthy".

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

I have to apologize to everyone because MFP was hacked today. I was working in a conference room with my work laptop, and I left MFP account open. Needless to say some "soon to be fired" student interns were playing around and left some very awful comments on quite a few threads, this being one of them! (They got caught on camera)

These people said some very mean and nasty things, although as of right now I have been advised by my HR Director NOT to delete them, so HR can use it to show CLEAR violation of the Internet Usage policy. Anything that is posted by my profile on this thread before this one was NOT ME. It makes me SICK to read some of the things they said; especially because it no way reflects any of my own beliefs.

I know not all of those offended by what was posted will see this, but I do offer my apology. I promise when the whole ordeal at work is cleared up; all of the comments will be deleted.

Your student interns sure have some strong views about clean eating that seem to line up with your past posts. What a coincidence.

BrainyBurro

WHY ARE YOU ALL STILL HERE?

Well, this WAS a stupid topic to start with, anyway....

not stupid at all. just not something you wanted to hear. i'm frustrated seeing all of the people struggling on this site trying to live up to an impossible standard. do you think guilt and shame are useful ways to help people lose weight? i don't. but i can show you lots of people posting how guilty or ashamed they feel just because they "slipped" and ate a slice of pizza. i even know 1 person on here who's marriage got shaky because her husband adopted a paleo lifestyle and became a fanatic about it. this sort of orthorexia comes from any sort of diet where people are told that certain foods are "bad" or "unhealthy".

LOL you could say that about any diet. It IS stupid to start a whole thread to 'shame' a bunch of people that you don't even know that do something that doesn't even impact your life. No one can make you feel guilty or ashamed but yourself. That lady's husband sounds like he's just nuts, and it has nothing to do with the hundreds of thousands that follow a similar diet.

You sound like a real tool.

...and resorts to personal insults.

not surprised. also not surprised you think everything is personal and directed at you specifically.

ihad

WHY ARE YOU ALL STILL HERE?

I just got back. Had to dry out my sandwich. Did I miss anything?

slkehl

What works for some people doesn't work for everyone. For me, clean eating is stupid. It's unnecessary restriction and feels oppressive. But for some people, it works amazingly well. They feel energized, not deprived, and they enjoy eating this way. Also, remember that not everyone can easily eat in moderation. So I don't think it's a stupid concept.

BeachIron

WHY ARE YOU ALL STILL HERE?

I just got back. Had to dry out my sandwich. Did I miss anything?

Just a bunch of clean eating types jumping up and down, red faced, that someone dared eat a potato chip without following up with hours of self flagellation and feelings of remorse.

HardcoreP0rk

I have to apologize to everyone because MFP was hacked today. I was working in a conference room with my work laptop, and I left MFP account open. Needless to say some "soon to be fired" student interns were playing around and left some very awful comments on quite a few threads, this being one of them! (They got caught on camera)

These people said some very mean and nasty things, although as of right now I have been advised by my HR Director NOT to delete them, so HR can use it to show CLEAR violation of the Internet Usage policy. Anything that is posted by my profile on this thread before this one was NOT ME. It makes me SICK to read some of the things they said; especially because it no way reflects any of my own beliefs.

I know not all of those offended by what was posted will see this, but I do offer my apology. I promise when the whole ordeal at work is cleared up; all of the comments will be deleted.

OMG - did that just happen?

Also, if your computer was really hacked by student interns, you MIGHT have a gay porn screen saver, but you probably wouldnt have to worry about MFP.

iAMsmiling

WHY ARE YOU ALL STILL HERE?

I just got back. Had to dry out my sandwich. Did I miss anything?

Just a bunch of clean eating types jumping up and down, red faced, that someone dared eat a potato chip without following up with hours of self flagellation and feelings of remorse.

Have we ever established the calorie burn per minute of self flagellation?

sixout

WHY ARE YOU ALL STILL HERE?

why are you grabbing your junk in your avatar?

When you feel the urge, you do it, man.

BeachIron

WHY ARE YOU ALL STILL HERE?

I just got back. Had to dry out my sandwich. Did I miss anything?

Just a bunch of clean eating types jumping up and down, red faced, that someone dared eat a potato chip without following up with hours of self flagellation and feelings of remorse.

Have we ever established the calorie burn per minute of self flagellation?

We need to find a volunteer with a HRM. Maybe we can find some interested people in one of those hump/dump/blindfold/gag threads . . .

Gwen_B

Its called being healthy! Just because someone is skinny doesn't mean they are healthy!

SanteMulberry

i worry about calories and macros (and micros) and don't worry what any self-appointed food shamers have to say about anything... ever.

i see lots of people on this site wear "how clean their diet is" as a badge of honor. it's not. it just means you've been hoodwinked into thinking that your success/failure is fully tied up in your food choices. it's not.

if i want rice, i eat rice. if i want an apple, i eat an apple. if i want a piece of pumpkin pie, i eat a piece of pumpkin pie. i don't eat the whole pie. this is how you lose weight and get fit. you don't do it by adhering to lists of "approved" and "unapproved" foods.

maybe i'm too easily irritated this morning, but i'm just sick of seeing people get sucked up into this fad (and related ones) and lose sight of the big picture in the process.

If it was only about losing weight, you could eat nothing but Twinkies (or Pop-Tarts--for the peanut gallery) and, if you stayed within your calorie limit, you would lose weight. But whether or not you would be healthy is another matter. To me, good health is a LOT a part of the equation and that is why I am here to lose weight safely and effectively. I tried crazy crash diets for years, but after I lost the weight, I would always gain it back (plus more) because I was malnourished by the time I was done with the diet.

I think most men here advocate eating 80% "clean" and then 20% whatever appeals to them. But men don't have the same problems losing weight as women do for a lot of reasons which are hormonal in nature. Most women on MFP don't have the luxury of eating whatever they want to.

That last part is untrue.

What specifically are you in disagreement with, Wheird?

The part saying that moat women on MFP do not have the luxury of eating whatever they want.

Most of the women on my FL are IIFYM followers and have been successful with their weightloss. While it is admittedly a small sample set, I do think it is fairly telling.

I suspect that most of those ladies have not had a serious problem with obesity. The vast bulk of women that I meet here are typical of me and I cannot eat junk food (for a great many health-related reasons that are too boring to go into).

sixout

i worry about calories and macros (and micros) and don't worry what any self-appointed food shamers have to say about anything... ever.

i see lots of people on this site wear "how clean their diet is" as a badge of honor. it's not. it just means you've been hoodwinked into thinking that your success/failure is fully tied up in your food choices. it's not.

if i want rice, i eat rice. if i want an apple, i eat an apple. if i want a piece of pumpkin pie, i eat a piece of pumpkin pie. i don't eat the whole pie. this is how you lose weight and get fit. you don't do it by adhering to lists of "approved" and "unapproved" foods.

maybe i'm too easily irritated this morning, but i'm just sick of seeing people get sucked up into this fad (and related ones) and lose sight of the big picture in the process.

If it was only about losing weight, you could eat nothing but Twinkies (or Pop-Tarts--for the peanut gallery) and, if you stayed within your calorie limit, you would lose weight. But whether or not you would be healthy is another matter. To me, good health is a LOT a part of the equation and that is why I am here to lose weight safely and effectively. I tried crazy crash diets for years, but after I lost the weight, I would always gain it back (plus more) because I was malnourished by the time I was done with the diet.

I think most men here advocate eating 80% "clean" and then 20% whatever appeals to them. But men don't have the same problems losing weight as women do for a lot of reasons which are hormonal in nature. Most women on MFP don't have the luxury of eating whatever they want to.

That last part is untrue.

What specifically are you in disagreement with, Wheird?

The part saying that moat women on MFP do not have the luxury of eating whatever they want.

Most of the women on my FL are IIFYM followers and have been successful with their weightloss. While it is admittedly a small sample set, I do think it is fairly telling.

I suspect that most of those ladies have not had a serious problem with obesity. The vast bulk of women that I meet here are typical of me and I cannot eat junk food (for a great many health-related reasons that are too boring to go into).

I'm not picking sides. Cause I eat in all different ways depending on the seasons. But this is wrong. I know a couple of girls that were well past the obese range and got down pretty fit and thin on IIFYM

rpguru

Everyone is different, what works for you may not for for the next person. Do what works.

Hotdawgnothotdog

Agreed! As long as you keep working out and keep your calories around where there supposed to be, you'll lose weight.