I don't eat clean. I won't eat clean. It's a stupid concept.
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50 pounds off of my body and I don't eat clean! and this is waiting for me today!!!!!! mmmmmm
Share? Please? C'mon.0 -
Hear hear, OP.
Edit: for the record, I don't think eating clean means never cheating. I object to this "no food that comes in a package or has more than two ingredients unless you made it from scratch yourself" attitude. I eat convenience foods (that does not mean a lot of junk food, though I will cop to eating some of that too) because it makes my life a lot simpler. Like the OP, I pay attention to my macros and micros and eat a lot better than I used to mostly because I wasn't getting enough protein or fats before, partly due to bad advice (fats) and partly due to not being a meat lover. Ironically I'm eating fewer vegetables than I used to because I'm focusing on my macros and they're not always convenient, but I do a decent job. I get organic and cruelty-free when I can and even grow some of my own veg. I eat when I need to and not on a highly structured plan. I eat at a light deficit and my weight loss has been slow and steady accordingly.
My diary could look more "virtuous" but I look and feel better and am losing weight. A lot of people on these boards have lost massive poundage eating a lot of packaged and prepared food. Not everything must become a dammed religion.0 -
This should end well...
It's like a Tumblr fight, but better.
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Where are all of these clean eater attackers? Seriously, I see more posts and comments making fun of clean eaters and ridiculing them than I do of clean eaters pointing the judgemental finger at everyone. Great, you eat what you want if it fits in your macros.. good for you. If your honest, and your truely doing IIFYM, then you probably eat "cleaner" then you admit to.
Eh, I know some IIFYM eaters that eat mcdonalds at least once a week. It's a nice concept. But I like veggies and meat, so 'clean' eating isn't a fad. It's just how I've eaten for a while, and something I enjoy. Plus, I'm frugal so spending less money at the grocery store and cooking myself (I love to cook) makes more sense.
Sometimes I screw up a cheesecake though.0 -
Where are all of these clean eater attackers? Seriously, I see more posts and comments making fun of clean eaters and ridiculing them than I do of clean eaters pointing the judgemental finger at everyone. Great, you eat what you want if it fits in your macros.. good for you. If your honest, and your truely doing IIFYM, then you probably eat "cleaner" then you admit to.
It's what so amusing about many of the "eat in moderation" junta - their views tend to be rather immoderate...0 -
-_- lmao - Maybe I shouldn't have rephrased that to say "if it has more syllables than you can count on your fingers" :P
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I consider it clean if it is organic and free from ingredients I can't pronounce. Everyone has their own definition of "clean eating". But it doesn't stop me from eating pizza, chips, cookies, and ice cream or a burger - I just don't go to Burger King and get their version because it would literally make me sick. I don't dog the next person that does go get a Whopper meal though, if that's what they want to eat, then eat it.
Some people want to rebel so hard against eating healthy they take it to the extreme and brag about eating fast food. Who cares? If it works for you why trash what other people enjoy doing? Different things obviously work for different people.
So, since I am ridiculously intelligent and can pronounce the stuff in my food, does that make it clean?
-_- lmao - Maybe I shouldn't have rephrased that to say "if it has more syllables than you can count on your fingers" :P
So, since I have a weird hand and have 18 fingers I'm eating clean??0 -
How about everyone just get their proper nutrition and call it a day...really, this is just about stupid.0
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rice is rice. it's not clean or dirty. it's just rice.
If you ain't had dirty rice, you ain't livin' right.0 -
How about everyone just get their proper nutrition and call it a day...really, this is just about stupid.
this would be cause for a consensus on what proper nutrition actually is...0 -
How about everyone just get their proper nutrition and call it a day...really, this is just about stupid.
This is America. If someone wasn't trying to run someone else's life, things wouldn't be right!0 -
50 pounds off of my body and I don't eat clean! and this is waiting for me today!!!!!! mmmmmm
Share? Please? C'mon.
mmm mmm mmmm maybe a bite :huh: its mine...0 -
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Dirty eater here.
I'm just hoping I don't get throat cancer.
contact Michael Douglas. share notes.0 -
i worry about calories and macros (and micros) and don't worry what any self-appointed food shamers have to say about anything... ever.
i see lots of people on this site wear "how clean their diet is" as a badge of honor. it's not. it just means you've been hoodwinked into thinking that your success/failure is fully tied up in your food choices. it's not.
if i want rice, i eat rice. if i want an apple, i eat an apple. if i want a piece of pumpkin pie, i eat a piece of pumpkin pie. i don't eat the whole pie. this is how you lose weight and get fit. you don't do it by adhering to lists of "approved" and "unapproved" foods.
maybe i'm too easily irritated this morning, but i'm just sick of seeing people get sucked up into this fad (and related ones) and lose sight of the big picture in the process.
Didnt read the previous replies but im sure somewhere someone has told you that by your OP, you apparently don't understand the definition of eating clean....0 -
Where are all of these clean eater attackers? Seriously, I see more posts and comments making fun of clean eaters and ridiculing them than I do of clean eaters pointing the judgemental finger at everyone. Great, you eat what you want if it fits in your macros.. good for you. If your honest, and your truely doing IIFYM, then you probably eat "cleaner" then you admit to.
It's what so amusing about many of the "eat in moderation" junta - their views tend to be rather immoderate...
Yes to both of these comments.0 -
I think that eating "clean" is a healthy aspiration but is near impossible for a lot of people to maintain. I for one eat a lot of fresh fruit and lean meat but Sunday night, I had papa john's because nobody does it like papa john's does it :laugh: Life is short. Enjoy it.0
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i worry about calories and macros (and micros) and don't worry what any self-appointed food shamers have to say about anything... ever.
i see lots of people on this site wear "how clean their diet is" as a badge of honor. it's not. it just means you've been hoodwinked into thinking that your success/failure is fully tied up in your food choices. it's not.
if i want rice, i eat rice. if i want an apple, i eat an apple. if i want a piece of pumpkin pie, i eat a piece of pumpkin pie. i don't eat the whole pie. this is how you lose weight and get fit. you don't do it by adhering to lists of "approved" and "unapproved" foods.
maybe i'm too easily irritated this morning, but i'm just sick of seeing people get sucked up into this fad (and related ones) and lose sight of the big picture in the process.
Didnt read the previous replies but im sure somewhere someone has told you that by your OP, you apparently don't understand the definition of eating clean....
please state a definition of clean eating that all clean eaters would agree with.0 -
rice is rice. it's not clean or dirty. it's just rice.
If you ain't had dirty rice, you ain't livin' right.
Amen! Dirty rice for dinner tonight, sounds great! Some veggies on the side and that cake that m76b posted for dessert. DROOL!0 -
Where are all of these clean eater attackers? Seriously, I see more posts and comments making fun of clean eaters and ridiculing them than I do of clean eaters pointing the judgemental finger at everyone. Great, you eat what you want if it fits in your macros.. good for you. If your honest, and your truely doing IIFYM, then you probably eat "cleaner" then you admit to.It's about not letting unnecessary chemicals into your body.
But without proper nutrition & such a "whatever whenever approach" your body will suffer for it in the end. It's not brain science!
I try to eat as clean as possible because I am concerned about chemicals and processed foods.
Love it i feel a lot better since i started eating cleaner i feel so energetic and my skin looks so clear no more acne and hell just healthier all around
if not eating processed and refined foods decrease my pain levels, what are those things actually doing to people that eat them
Some people want to lose weight to "look good" at any cost, what ever it takes healthy or not.
To be more "healthy" then one needs to consider everything they put in their mouths like chemicals and such that isn't going to benefit or help them reach their "healthy" goal.
What good will skinny be if I am cancer waiting to happen.0 -
Let me start off by saying I don't really eat clean. I try to eat natural foods whenever possible, but I still haven't cut my favorite "junk" foods from my diet.
That being said, I think people like you don't really understand the general concept of "clean eating." Yes, it means to only eat natural, real foods... however, the majority of people who practice it advocate for eating 80% "clean" and 20% "normal." So if you crave a slice of pie, eat a slice of pie! If you want a cheeseburger every once in a while, have it! It's just about changing your lifestyle to incorporate MOSTLY all-natural, minimally-processed foods. That's not a fad; it's just a healthier way to live in general.
Yes there are some people who take it too far and live way up on a high horse about it, but my encounters with those people have been rare. When I do come across them, I just ignore them. No big deal.0 -
i worry about calories and macros (and micros) and don't worry what any self-appointed food shamers have to say about anything... ever.
i see lots of people on this site wear "how clean their diet is" as a badge of honor. it's not. it just means you've been hoodwinked into thinking that your success/failure is fully tied up in your food choices. it's not.
if i want rice, i eat rice. if i want an apple, i eat an apple. if i want a piece of pumpkin pie, i eat a piece of pumpkin pie. i don't eat the whole pie. this is how you lose weight and get fit. you don't do it by adhering to lists of "approved" and "unapproved" foods.
maybe i'm too easily irritated this morning, but i'm just sick of seeing people get sucked up into this fad (and related ones) and lose sight of the big picture in the process.
A few points:
1. My success and/or failure IS tied up in my food choices. You make the erroneous assumption that everyone can lose weight the same *exact* way as you.
2. I think it's wonderful you can eat rice and pie. I got pretty fat eating rice and pie, and no, I did not eat the whole pie nor did I eat tons of rice. My hormones are likely different from yours and are very efficient at storing calories from those sources.
3. I like 'clean' eating, but it doesn't make me feel superior, nor does it make me lose sight of the big picture, whatever that may be. My 'big picture' isn't the same as your 'big picture'. We don't have the same goals.0 -
Let me start off by saying I don't really eat clean. I try to eat natural foods whenever possible, but I still haven't cut my favorite "junk" foods from my diet.
That being said, I think people like you don't really understand the general concept of "clean eating." Yes, it means to only eat natural, real foods... however, the majority of people who practice it advocate for eating 80% "clean" and 20% "normal." So if you crave a slice of pie, eat a slice of pie! If you want a cheeseburger every once in a while, have it! It's just about changing your lifestyle to incorporate MOSTLY all-natural, minimally-processed foods. That's not a fad; it's just a healthier way to live in general.
Yes there are some people who take it too far and live way up on a high horse about it, but my encounters with those people have been rare. When I do come across them, I just ignore them. No big deal.
I have no issue with those folks, it's rather the ones saying that the chemicals in processed food are going to give you cancer of the everything.0 -
Just a little PSA: Regarding sushi, it may be worth mentioning that the rice is made with sugar. I think that goes against Rule #1 in the clean eating handbook...
That said, I love sushi. I also love sashimi, and when I wanted to avoid sugar, I ordered sashimi. Skip the rice and you're all set.
Not to mention, if you skip the rice, you have more room for sashimi. :drinker:
Sashimi is so great.
Dammit, now I'm jonesing.
One Sashimi Deluxe, please...
Sashimi won't make it past me. I usually just catch the fish and peel the scales off with my teath. That's how the cavemen did it.
Whoa, whoa, whao, this thread is about clean eating, not paleo... THREAD DERAILER!0 -
Everyone is free to eat what ever they want. Also yes you can enjoy any food in moderation and still be healthy.
Some of us just like to have food without as many chemicals and additives. Also, personal opinion here, but I don't feel as good after eating a meal that is "unclean" compared to one that is. This isn't the case for everyone I guess but to mock people for making healthy choices is kinda weird.
I always figured your body will run better without having to fight off unneeded "bad" foods. I'm no scientist though. So feel free to consider me stupid for thinking this way.0 -
This should end well...
It's like a Tumblr fight, but better.
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I'm STILL not even sure what "eating clean" means exactly. In any case, isn't the whole point just to be healthier? You know, in all aspects? Walk more, sleep better, eat healthier? *shrug* :drinker:0
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If you ate clean you wouldn't be so grouchy in the morning - LMAO
I think I'll stick to eating clean & my 1 day a month cheat day seeing you didn't provide anything in the way of a persuasive argument not to & just attacked this so called "fad".
you don't get extra credit points for your food choices. either you make everything fit your goals under IIFYM or you don't. you can suffer and force yourself to eat stuff you don't want and pat yourself on the back for being superior to everyone else, or you can indulge in occasional treats that aren't "clean" so that you don't have the temptation to binge later.
i don't have to prove to you that the sun is hot. it's enough that i tell you it's hot so that if you were under the mistaken impression that it was cold, you may consider re-evaluating your opinion.
IIFYM is just as much of a trend/fad as clean eating. Not everyone sees eating a diet of fresh, natural foods in a clean-eating plan as "suffering". Eat whatever you want; I'll do the same.0 -
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I just don't get it. No one cares if you eat whatever you want, just don't tout "clean eating" for everyone as a cure to all ailments. Because its ridiculous.
*eats Andy Capp's Hot Fries and watch thread for the lols*0 -
Just a little PSA: Regarding sushi, it may be worth mentioning that the rice is made with sugar. I think that goes against Rule #1 in the clean eating handbook...
That said, I love sushi. I also love sashimi, and when I wanted to avoid sugar, I ordered sashimi. Skip the rice and you're all set.
Not to mention, if you skip the rice, you have more room for sashimi. :drinker:
Sashimi is so great.
Dammit, now I'm jonesing.
One Sashimi Deluxe, please...
Sashimi won't make it past me. I usually just catch the fish and peel the scales off with my teath. That's how the cavemen did it.
Whoa, whoa, whao, this thread is about clean eating, not paleo... THREAD DERAILER!
I'm actually a caveman. I don't understand rules. Me sorry0
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