Doing the laundry
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lord i see people on my friends list talking about how theyve vaccumed the living room and then i see them logging it as heavy cleaning. either that one dirty *kitten* carpet youve got or you used a little hand held brush and vigarousy swept it0
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Sometimes I wonder if there are just a lot of people out there who are SO sedentary that things the rest of us think of as activities of daily living look to them like herculean efforts. It's the only reasonably sane rationale I can come up with for why so many people think they should get exercise brownie points for doing the most mundane, random nonsense imaginable. Maybe vacuuming or laundry or ironing or whatever does look like exercise when your baseline is "Today I got out of bed and walked to the living room."0
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Larissa_NY wrote: »Sometimes I wonder if there are just a lot of people out there who are SO sedentary that things the rest of us think of as activities of daily living look to them like herculean efforts. It's the only reasonably sane rationale I can come up with for why so many people think they should get exercise brownie points for doing the most mundane, random nonsense imaginable. Maybe vacuuming or laundry or ironing or whatever does look like exercise when your baseline is "Today I got out of bed and walked to the living room."
Ding, Ding, Ding. We have a winner. Pick up your box of donuts on your way out. I'm sure you burned through quite a few calories typing today. Time for a treat.0 -
TheVirgoddess wrote: »BraveNewdGirl wrote: »Wait, only the gym is exercise? WTF am I doing the T and L for?!
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ruqayyahsmum wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »boredlimodriver wrote: »
wtf is exercise?boredlimodriver wrote: »Logging:
45 seconds, folding 2 towels
90 seconds, loading dryer
10 seconds, filling detergent cup
cals burned: 6
Bro, DYEExercise? Think that through before you respond.
laundry?
What's laundry? 3 days in the same boxers crew checking in.
Oh goodness, Mr. M… If I were your wife, you would NOT be getting laid.
my ex used to see boxers as a change weekly item of clothing cos he showered twice a day he figured they wernt getting dirty
he changed to wearing a new pair daily when i bought him 10 new pairs and told him he wasnt coming near me until i did a wash load containing at least 7 worn pairs
That's gross. I was actually just kidding.
just one of his many querks from how he was brought up. in the end i had to show him the door
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ruqayyahsmum wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »boredlimodriver wrote: »
wtf is exercise?boredlimodriver wrote: »Logging:
45 seconds, folding 2 towels
90 seconds, loading dryer
10 seconds, filling detergent cup
cals burned: 6
Bro, DYEExercise? Think that through before you respond.
laundry?
What's laundry? 3 days in the same boxers crew checking in.
Oh goodness, Mr. M… If I were your wife, you would NOT be getting laid.
my ex used to see boxers as a change weekly item of clothing cos he showered twice a day he figured they wernt getting dirty
he changed to wearing a new pair daily when i bought him 10 new pairs and told him he wasnt coming near me until i did a wash load containing at least 7 worn pairs
That's gross. I was actually just kidding.
I agree!
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ruqayyahsmum wrote: »ummm me, i have a thing about clothes. i can only wear them once then they just have to go in the wash
Ditto. Putting on a worn old bra (or socks)? Not going to happen.
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Larissa_NY wrote: »Sometimes I wonder if there are just a lot of people out there who are SO sedentary that things the rest of us think of as activities of daily living look to them like herculean efforts. It's the only reasonably sane rationale I can come up with for why so many people think they should get exercise brownie points for doing the most mundane, random nonsense imaginable. Maybe vacuuming or laundry or ironing or whatever does look like exercise when your baseline is "Today I got out of bed and walked to the living room."
Ding, Ding, Ding. We have a winner. Pick up your box of donuts on your way out. I'm sure you burned through quite a few calories typing today. Time for a treat.
I took out the trash too, those donuts better have sprinkles.
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ruqayyahsmum wrote: »ummm me, i have a thing about clothes. i can only wear them once then they just have to go in the wash
Ditto. Putting on a worn old bra (or socks)? Not going to happen.
i cant put on a worn anything, my daughters now the same way and gets thru 2 sets of clothes at least a day
the electric company loves me o a weekend with the amount of laundry i do lol
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ruqayyahsmum wrote: »ruqayyahsmum wrote: »ummm me, i have a thing about clothes. i can only wear them once then they just have to go in the wash
Ditto. Putting on a worn old bra (or socks)? Not going to happen.
i cant put on a worn anything, my daughters now the same way and gets thru 2 sets of clothes at least a day
the electric company loves me o a weekend with the amount of laundry i do lol
Wash late at night. The electricity rates are lower
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I've always been unusually clean, even as a child. So much so, that my Mother absolutely refused to wash anything I wore; unless I wore it twice. She'd even put back my underwear/socks, in my dresser folded; after I put them in the dirty laundry basket & I knew it wasn't washed because I didn't hear the washer/dryer run before my clothes were put back. With my Brothers & Sister however, she always threw away theirs; after they only wore them once; she never once ever washed their underwear/socks because they were dirty kids. I believe it was also because I naturally always smelled good. I didn't fully lose my baby scent, until I was about 10 years old & I didn't have to wear deodorant, until I was 22. Plus whenever I use to sweat, it always smelled like flowery perfume; even though I wasn't wearing any. Whereas my siblings, always smelled like rusted metal; whenever they'd sweat.0
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Wow! A bunch of responders first joined MFP because they were exercising a lot and did not need to lose weight!
Original poster, when you set up yourself as sedentary, MFP credited you with about 1.2x the calories of you base rate metabolism (i.e. the amount of calories you would burn by being alive even if you never left your bed)
This sedentary total daily energy expenditure level accounts for things like going to the bathroom, cooking your food, brushing your teath, watching TV, typing on your computer, driving, and other general activities of daily living, including doing your own laundry.
It does not account for working an 8 hour shift folding laundry in a laundromat, nor does it account for step based activities that exceed 5 or 6,000 steps a day.
You may want to consider getting yourself a cheap pedometer. A fitbit zip (or charge hrm if you can afford it) might be an even better option.
Both can help you gauge whether your daily activity level is sufficient to warrant an "adjustment" to MFPs base sedentary caloric estimate.
Someone else has already given out useful 'step ranges' and the activity level (tdee) they correspond to.
The higher my tdee... the more i get to eat... so after finishing this post I'm taking the dog out for a walk!
Many people who lose weight do so in part by becoming more active, and many accomplish this by incorporating walking into their daily lives.
While the "average" person is sedentary and racks up about 5,000 steps, a "goal" to built up to during weight loss may be something like 12,000+ steps a day. If walking at a moderate pace that may take a couple of hours each and every day.
But you cannot go from 0 to 12000.
Slowly build up to a higher level by starting with a single 10 minute walk around the block if that's all you can do today.
As the weight drops a lot of activities that seemed impossible... aren't!
94% of the members of the national weight control registry used some form of exercise (most prevalently walking) to accomplish their weight loss.
90% of nwcr maintainers report that they exercise at least an hour a day (which is more than what people who have never been fat exercise on average).
Take care.
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Larissa_NY wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »Sometimes I wonder if there are just a lot of people out there who are SO sedentary that things the rest of us think of as activities of daily living look to them like herculean efforts. It's the only reasonably sane rationale I can come up with for why so many people think they should get exercise brownie points for doing the most mundane, random nonsense imaginable. Maybe vacuuming or laundry or ironing or whatever does look like exercise when your baseline is "Today I got out of bed and walked to the living room."
Ding, Ding, Ding. We have a winner. Pick up your box of donuts on your way out. I'm sure you burned through quite a few calories typing today. Time for a treat.
I took out the trash too, those donuts better have sprinkles.
Good lord, BE CAREFUL! You are hovering dangerously close to the point of no return here. If you go burning any more calories, the universe may just collapse upon itself. Tread lightly...err, better yet, not at all. Just stand still the rest of the day.0 -
Wow! A bunch of responders first joined MFP because they were exercising a lot and did not need to lose weight!
Original poster, when you set up yourself as sedentary, MFP credited you with about 1.2x the calories of you base rate metabolism (i.e. the amount of calories you would burn by being alive even if you never left your bed)
This sedentary total daily energy expenditure level accounts for things like going to the bathroom, cooking your food, brushing your teath, watching TV, typing on your computer, driving, and other general activities of daily living, including doing your own laundry.
It does not account for working an 8 hour shift folding laundry in a laundromat, nor does it account for step based activities that exceed 5 or 6,000 steps a day.
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90% of nwcr maintainers report that they exercise at least an hour a day (which is more than what people who have never been fat exercise on average).
Take care.
Except op doesn't work in a Laundromat - they were doing their own laundry
Oh and a HRM only works for steady state cardio - it is useless for monitoring daily burn.0 -
You need to walk at a moderate level 3-5x a week, for 30 minutes a day to be considered physically active. If you want to be physically fit, you need to add vigorous exercise 3x a week for a min of 30 minutes for a min of 3 months (3 - 3 - 3).
Doing the laundry only counts if you are moving for the entire time, not sitting around waiting for the washing machine or dryier bell to ring.0 -
I have counted housework at 100 calories per hour IF I am on my feet and moving the entire hour.
That doesn't happen very often.
Mostly, I get up and load the dishwasher for 10 min, then sit, then get up and put laundry into the washer, then sit, then get up and hang the laundry to dry, then sit, etc.. I don't count any of that.
However, once last week, I was up for a full 60 minutes doing all those things plus lifting and carrying fairly heavy boxes, and unpacking those boxes, as we settle into our place. I counted that as 100 calories.0 -
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Pot meet kettle.smythepatricia90 wrote: »
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I am bummed at how unhelpful/ sarcastic/ simply rude comments there are.
Some of you guys are pretty funny and mean well.
But OP, I'd just forget pretty much this whole mess and move on.
Agree. And always justified by 'it's not mean, it's being honest' yes but there's a way to go about it! I don't think I'd ever want to post a question on here. There are lots of lovely people but some seem to enjoy making others look and feel stupid.0 -
How about if you do the laundry by hand?
We don't have a washing machine at the moment so I ether drive to my mum's every weekend with at least 3 bags full of dirty clothes, or if I need something urgently I wash it by hand. It is incredible how tiring that is,, even if it is only a few shirts or a pair of jeans. How did people manage wash entire family's clothes back when washing machines were not yet invented is beyond me.
But I suppose people weren't as fat back then either.
I don't log the washing btw :P0 -
smythepatricia90 wrote: »When a human is over a certain age the metabolism slows down.
ANY physical movement IS exercise.
However, it may not reduce weight.
There is another issue that is the problem.
I've been telling doctors this for a long long time.
Just wait… That will be revealed in years to come but too late for you and I.
Over the years, I put on a lot of weight. I bought into the "age-induced metabolism slowdown" excuse too. The reality was, it was mostly me slowing down, cutting back on my activity level, rather than my base metabolism slowing down. Oh ... and the extra calories I was taking in while I wasn't doing much activity didn't help.
But last year I reversed that. Controlled my calories, resumed exercising (first walking, then elliptical, then weights). At age 51, I dropped 100 lbs. Showed that metabolism who is boss.
I had to stop making excuses for myself, and start making changes, in order to drop weight.
As a friend once told me ... "you don't slow down because you get older, you get older because you slow down".
Cut back on the calories, pick up the pace, find your younger self again. I know I did.
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smythepatricia90 wrote: »
But what will you do for exercise today, more laundry?0 -
smythepatricia90 wrote: »
Did the person who posted not one but FOUR different threads over this issue just call everyone else drama queens?0 -
3dogsrunning wrote: »smythepatricia90 wrote: »
Did the person who posted not one but FOUR different threads over this issue just call everyone else drama queens?
Waitwaitwaitwait, there are four of these?
(And to remain vaguely on topic, I do not log cleaning, work-related walking, or anything I was doing before I started tracking. If it's something I was already doing, it's part of my total daily energy expenditure and is included in the calories MFP provided when I set my activity level, as many people have already said)
ETA that when I first started logging, I did log cooking and cleaning because I so desperately wanted those extra calories. But eventually I realized I was just cheating myself, and when I stopped trying to fool myself I saw the weight drop off much more quickly and satisfactorily.0 -
CaffeinatedConfectionist wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »smythepatricia90 wrote: »
Did the person who posted not one but FOUR different threads over this issue just call everyone else drama queens?
Waitwaitwaitwait, there are four of these?
(And to remain vaguely on topic, I do not log cleaning, work-related walking, or anything I was doing before I started tracking. If it's something I was already doing, it's part of my total daily energy expenditure and is included in the calories MFP provided when I set my activity level, as many people have already said)
There was this one. The follow up one saying asking for help was a mistake one. Then the Spock one right after. And today was the one complaining that these activities don't count. That disappeared.0 -
3dogsrunning wrote: »smythepatricia90 wrote: »
Did the person who posted not one but FOUR different threads over this issue just call everyone else drama queens?
can you link to the other threads? I gotta see this.0 -
Conclusion:
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Calliope610 wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »smythepatricia90 wrote: »
Did the person who posted not one but FOUR different threads over this issue just call everyone else drama queens?
can you link to the other threads? I gotta see this.
Two have been removed and the Spock one was moved to Chit chat by a mod. Not going there to find it. Lol.0 -
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