what is a food you have cut from your diet with some success?
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LIES!! Don't try to rustle my jimmies and coax me to the Cauliflower side!
Haha. Cauliflower is one of those foods that tastes like whatever you cook it in. Which I don't have a problem with. It's the texture. It's just.... wrong.0 -
MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Based on what? What general population data do have to back this up?
Uh… Maybe the people here on MFP who have been brainwashed into thinking they have to give up chips, cookies, cake, muffins, ice cream, etc. to lose weight.
But see, this sounds like an assumption on your part. You seem to think everyone that eliminates a food does it because they think they have to. That is not true.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Based on what? What general population data do have to back this up?
Uh… Maybe the people here on MFP who have been brainwashed into thinking they have to give up chips, cookies, cake, muffins, ice cream, etc. to lose weight.
But see, this sounds like an assumption on your part. You seem to think everyone that eliminates a food does it because they think they have to. That is not true.
I never said that. I know there are plenty of reasons people give up certain foods. But a majority of the people here on MFP, do it because they have been told they can't lose weight and eat cupcakes, for example.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I eat everything and make sure that I hit my calorie/micro/macro targets for the day ...life is easier when you don't view food as bad/evil/etc
Easy is subjective. I think I would find losing weight easier if I could view some food as evil. I want to avoid evil. Viewing it as wonderfully delicious makes it hard.
why would any food be "evil"....it is just something that fuels your body
If food were just something that fueled our bodies, why would anyone be overweight? Food is more than just fuel, whether it should be or not.
because they eat too much of it...
If food were really "evil" and caused weight gain on its own, then you get obese by eating in a deficit..
I can't believe you are even trying to make THAT argument...talk about ridiculousness...
Sorry, I'm not following. I never suggested that evil makes us obese or that food was evil.
My point was if food was nothing but fuel, then people wouldn't overeat. But food is more than just fuel. It's pleasure. It's how we celebrate and show love.
moving the goalposts, I see.
People overeat because they choose to...
are you really saying that food is programming people to over eat?
Hmm, let me reread. Nope, I don't see where I said or suggested anything close to that.
so celebration with food leads to overeating, which leads to obesity then? That would be one hell of a celebration.
one hell of a celebration ... is that why you keep going back to "evil"?
that is your claim, not mine.
Nope. I said I might find losing easier if it were evil.
so viewing it as evil does not equal claiming it is evil?0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Based on what? What general population data do have to back this up?
Uh… Maybe the people here on MFP who have been brainwashed into thinking they have to give up chips, cookies, cake, muffins, ice cream, etc. to lose weight.
But see, this sounds like an assumption on your part. You seem to think everyone that eliminates a food does it because they think they have to. That is not true.
I never said that. I know there are plenty of reasons people give up certain foods. But a majority of the people here on MFP, do it because they have been told they can't lose weight and eat cupcakes, for example.
So when you asked why anyone would give up a food they enjoy, you did not mean to imply that people don't do that?
I still would question how you know why the majority of people on MFP do what they do.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.0 -
Bagels.0
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I eat everything and make sure that I hit my calorie/micro/macro targets for the day ...life is easier when you don't view food as bad/evil/etc
Easy is subjective. I think I would find losing weight easier if I could view some food as evil. I want to avoid evil. Viewing it as wonderfully delicious makes it hard.
why would any food be "evil"....it is just something that fuels your body
If food were just something that fueled our bodies, why would anyone be overweight? Food is more than just fuel, whether it should be or not.
because they eat too much of it...
If food were really "evil" and caused weight gain on its own, then you get obese by eating in a deficit..
I can't believe you are even trying to make THAT argument...talk about ridiculousness...
Sorry, I'm not following. I never suggested that evil makes us obese or that food was evil.
My point was if food was nothing but fuel, then people wouldn't overeat. But food is more than just fuel. It's pleasure. It's how we celebrate and show love.
moving the goalposts, I see.
People overeat because they choose to...
are you really saying that food is programming people to over eat?
Hmm, let me reread. Nope, I don't see where I said or suggested anything close to that.
so celebration with food leads to overeating, which leads to obesity then? That would be one hell of a celebration.
one hell of a celebration ... is that why you keep going back to "evil"?
that is your claim, not mine.
Nope. I said I might find losing easier if it were evil.
so viewing it as evil does not equal claiming it is evil?
"would be" "if it were"0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I eat everything and make sure that I hit my calorie/micro/macro targets for the day ...life is easier when you don't view food as bad/evil/etc
Easy is subjective. I think I would find losing weight easier if I could view some food as evil. I want to avoid evil. Viewing it as wonderfully delicious makes it hard.
why would any food be "evil"....it is just something that fuels your body
If food were just something that fueled our bodies, why would anyone be overweight? Food is more than just fuel, whether it should be or not.
because they eat too much of it...
If food were really "evil" and caused weight gain on its own, then you get obese by eating in a deficit..
I can't believe you are even trying to make THAT argument...talk about ridiculousness...
Sorry, I'm not following. I never suggested that evil makes us obese or that food was evil.
My point was if food was nothing but fuel, then people wouldn't overeat. But food is more than just fuel. It's pleasure. It's how we celebrate and show love.
moving the goalposts, I see.
People overeat because they choose to...
are you really saying that food is programming people to over eat?
Hmm, let me reread. Nope, I don't see where I said or suggested anything close to that.
so celebration with food leads to overeating, which leads to obesity then? That would be one hell of a celebration.
one hell of a celebration ... is that why you keep going back to "evil"?
that is your claim, not mine.
Nope. I said I might find losing easier if it were evil.
so viewing it as evil does not equal claiming it is evil?
"would be" "if it were"
so when you said "I want to avoid evil" that is not what you meant?0 -
MoiAussi93 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.
I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…
The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.
So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I eat everything and make sure that I hit my calorie/micro/macro targets for the day ...life is easier when you don't view food as bad/evil/etc
Easy is subjective. I think I would find losing weight easier if I could view some food as evil. I want to avoid evil. Viewing it as wonderfully delicious makes it hard.
why would any food be "evil"....it is just something that fuels your body
If food were just something that fueled our bodies, why would anyone be overweight? Food is more than just fuel, whether it should be or not.
because they eat too much of it...
If food were really "evil" and caused weight gain on its own, then you get obese by eating in a deficit..
I can't believe you are even trying to make THAT argument...talk about ridiculousness...
Sorry, I'm not following. I never suggested that evil makes us obese or that food was evil.
My point was if food was nothing but fuel, then people wouldn't overeat. But food is more than just fuel. It's pleasure. It's how we celebrate and show love.
moving the goalposts, I see.
People overeat because they choose to...
are you really saying that food is programming people to over eat?
Hmm, let me reread. Nope, I don't see where I said or suggested anything close to that.
so celebration with food leads to overeating, which leads to obesity then? That would be one hell of a celebration.
one hell of a celebration ... is that why you keep going back to "evil"?
that is your claim, not mine.
Nope. I said I might find losing easier if it were evil.
so viewing it as evil does not equal claiming it is evil?
"would be" "if it were"
so when you said "I want to avoid evil" that is not what you meant?
Okay, let me see if I can spell it out more. I want to avoid evil (because I think evil is bad and scary). I think I might find losing weight easier IF some foods were evil, because, as stated above, I want to avoid evil. So, IF some foods were evil, then I would want to avoid them.0 -
Then I'm not sure why you are so sure that the majority of the population can't cut out certain foods without binging on them. Several people on this thread have stated the opposite, and I see many stating the opposite every time this type of topic comes up.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.
I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…
The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.
So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.
I also see many, many, many threads where people say they can't help eating the entire pizza, or half a jar of peanut butter, or the entire pint of ice cream. So obviously "moderation" is something many people struggle with. I'm not sure what forum you are reading if you think otherwise.
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MoiAussi93 wrote: »
Then I'm not sure why you are so sure that the majority of the population can't cut out certain foods without binging on them. Several people on this thread have stated the opposite, and I see many stating the opposite every time this type of topic comes up.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.
I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…
The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.
So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.
I also see many, many, many threads where people say they can't help eating the entire pizza, or half a jar of peanut butter, or the entire pint of ice cream. So obviously "moderation" is something many people struggle with. I'm not sure what forum you are reading if you think otherwise.
Kellogg's had a profit decrease of over 30% last year. There must be one hell of a cereal binge about to descend on the nation, if the majority can't control themselves after they stop eating something.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.
I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…
I do.0 -
LOL! So it sounds like now is the time to buy Kellogg's stock...profits should be HUGE this year.MoiAussi93 wrote: »
Then I'm not sure why you are so sure that the majority of the population can't cut out certain foods without binging on them. Several people on this thread have stated the opposite, and I see many stating the opposite every time this type of topic comes up.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.
I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…
The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.
So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.
I also see many, many, many threads where people say they can't help eating the entire pizza, or half a jar of peanut butter, or the entire pint of ice cream. So obviously "moderation" is something many people struggle with. I'm not sure what forum you are reading if you think otherwise.
Kellogg's had a profit decrease of over 30% last year. There must be one hell of a cereal binge about to descend on the nation, if the majority can't control themselves after they stop eating something.
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MoiAussi93 wrote: »
Then I'm not sure why you are so sure that the majority of the population can't cut out certain foods without binging on them. Several people on this thread have stated the opposite, and I see many stating the opposite every time this type of topic comes up.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.
I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…
The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.
So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.
I also see many, many, many threads where people say they can't help eating the entire pizza, or half a jar of peanut butter, or the entire pint of ice cream. So obviously "moderation" is something many people struggle with. I'm not sure what forum you are reading if you think otherwise.
And once again you are completely forgetting about all the people on MFP who post threads about the time when they cut out certain foods and consequently, end up binging.
Funny how you seem to ignore those people.0 -
I stopped buying marshmallow fluff, I decided peanut butter sandwiches were high in calorie enough as it is, without the extra calories of essentially adding pure sugar. I do miss fluffernutters, but I can't justify such high calories for one sandwich, especially since I didn't find them a particularly filling snack. That's the only thing I've cut from my diet though, I manage to make everything else fit.0
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.
I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…
I do.
Great for you. Do you want a cookie?0 -
Nothing! I have modified how often and how much of something I may consume, example soda’s I typically only drink sodas with natural ingredients and even then only 2-5 a month. I eat less pasta and breads then I previously did, I eat red meat a little less often maybe 3-5 times a week. I’ll still have a dessert or a piece of candy when the mood strikes me.
But we have to do what we feel is best for us, so you do what you feel is best for you. And in the words of the “great emancipator “Abraham Lincoln, “Be excellent to each other, and... PARTY ON, DUDES!”
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Unlike you I haven't forgotten about anybody. I clearly stated that "some people" certainly do tend to binge when they eliminated foods. I also said that "many" don't. You, on the other hand, seem to think the "majority" can't eliminate foods without binging on them...even though you yourself have no such experience.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
Then I'm not sure why you are so sure that the majority of the population can't cut out certain foods without binging on them. Several people on this thread have stated the opposite, and I see many stating the opposite every time this type of topic comes up.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.
I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…
The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.
So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.
I also see many, many, many threads where people say they can't help eating the entire pizza, or half a jar of peanut butter, or the entire pint of ice cream. So obviously "moderation" is something many people struggle with. I'm not sure what forum you are reading if you think otherwise.
And once again you are completely forgetting about all the people on MFP who post threads about the time when they cut out certain foods and consequently, end up binging.
Funny how you seem to ignore those people.
Please comment on what I actually wrote, not on what you want to see.
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MoiAussi93 wrote: »
Unlike you I haven't forgotten about anybody. I clearly stated that "some people" certainly do tend to binge when they eliminated foods. I also said that "many" don't. You, on the other hand, seem to think "most people" can't eliminate foods without binging on them...even though you yourself have no such experience.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
Then I'm not sure why you are so sure that the majority of the population can't cut out certain foods without binging on them. Several people on this thread have stated the opposite, and I see many stating the opposite every time this type of topic comes up.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.
I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…
The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.
So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.
I also see many, many, many threads where people say they can't help eating the entire pizza, or half a jar of peanut butter, or the entire pint of ice cream. So obviously "moderation" is something many people struggle with. I'm not sure what forum you are reading if you think otherwise.
And once again you are completely forgetting about all the people on MFP who post threads about the time when they cut out certain foods and consequently, end up binging.
Funny how you seem to ignore those people.
Please comment on what I actually wrote, not on what you want to see.
Good Lord, lady…
MOST doesn't mean ALL.
Therefore, yes, there are some people who can cut out certain foods without binging.
I don't need to experience it myself. I see what hundreds of people on MFP say when they cut out certain foods. I also have friends and family members who have gone on diets that require cutting out certain foods. They failed miserably. Those are the people I am referring to.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
Unlike you I haven't forgotten about anybody. I clearly stated that "some people" certainly do tend to binge when they eliminated foods. I also said that "many" don't. You, on the other hand, seem to think "most people" can't eliminate foods without binging on them...even though you yourself have no such experience.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
Then I'm not sure why you are so sure that the majority of the population can't cut out certain foods without binging on them. Several people on this thread have stated the opposite, and I see many stating the opposite every time this type of topic comes up.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.
I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…
The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.
So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.
I also see many, many, many threads where people say they can't help eating the entire pizza, or half a jar of peanut butter, or the entire pint of ice cream. So obviously "moderation" is something many people struggle with. I'm not sure what forum you are reading if you think otherwise.
And once again you are completely forgetting about all the people on MFP who post threads about the time when they cut out certain foods and consequently, end up binging.
Funny how you seem to ignore those people.
Please comment on what I actually wrote, not on what you want to see.
Good Lord, lady…
MOST doesn't mean ALL.
Therefore, yes, there are some people who can cut out certain foods without binging.
I don't need to experience it myself. I see what hundreds of people on MFP say when they cut out certain foods. I also have friends and family members who have gone on diets that require cutting out certain foods. They failed miserably. Those are the people I am referring to.
Most doesn't mean all. Just like some doesn't mean most.0 -
Then don't claim to speak for "the general population". You really don't. Not when there are hundreds of posts on this site from people who have a lot of trouble eating certain foods in small amounts.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
Unlike you I haven't forgotten about anybody. I clearly stated that "some people" certainly do tend to binge when they eliminated foods. I also said that "many" don't. You, on the other hand, seem to think "most people" can't eliminate foods without binging on them...even though you yourself have no such experience.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
Then I'm not sure why you are so sure that the majority of the population can't cut out certain foods without binging on them. Several people on this thread have stated the opposite, and I see many stating the opposite every time this type of topic comes up.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.
I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…
The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.
So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.
I also see many, many, many threads where people say they can't help eating the entire pizza, or half a jar of peanut butter, or the entire pint of ice cream. So obviously "moderation" is something many people struggle with. I'm not sure what forum you are reading if you think otherwise.
And once again you are completely forgetting about all the people on MFP who post threads about the time when they cut out certain foods and consequently, end up binging.
Funny how you seem to ignore those people.
Please comment on what I actually wrote, not on what you want to see.
Good Lord, lady…
MOST doesn't mean ALL.
Therefore, yes, there are some people who can cut out certain foods without binging.
I don't need to experience it myself. I see what hundreds of people on MFP say when they cut out certain foods. I also have friends and family members who have gone on diets that require cutting out certain foods. They failed miserably. Those are the people I am referring to.
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asflatasapancake wrote: »I had to cut frozen fish sticks out of my diet. Just because I've never had any that tasted good at all. They're all just awful.
I was just thinking about those, as they were one thing we ate for dinner when my parents went out when I was a kid and left us with a babysitter. (Our other option was a TV dinner, so I was thinking of them in connection with the microwave dinner thread.) Anyway, as I kid I considered them a treat. I think I cut them out around age 13 on the basis that they were for kids, and haven't eaten them since, but my memories associated with them are all positive, even though we had fresh fish cooked well all the time (lived in Alaska for a time, so it was available).
Kind of funny.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »I had to cut frozen fish sticks out of my diet. Just because I've never had any that tasted good at all. They're all just awful.
I was just thinking about those, as they were one thing we ate for dinner when my parents went out when I was a kid and left us with a babysitter. (Our other option was a TV dinner, so I was thinking of them in connection with the microwave dinner thread.) Anyway, as I kid I considered them a treat. I think I cut them out around age 13 on the basis that they were for kids, and haven't eaten them since, but my memories associated with them are all positive, even though we had fresh fish cooked well all the time (lived in Alaska for a time, so it was available).
Kind of funny.
If you want to keep those fond memories, don't try them now.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I eat everything and make sure that I hit my calorie/micro/macro targets for the day ...life is easier when you don't view food as bad/evil/etc
Easy is subjective. I think I would find losing weight easier if I could view some food as evil. I want to avoid evil. Viewing it as wonderfully delicious makes it hard.
why would any food be "evil"....it is just something that fuels your body
If food were just something that fueled our bodies, why would anyone be overweight? Food is more than just fuel, whether it should be or not.
because they eat too much of it...
If food were really "evil" and caused weight gain on its own, then you get obese by eating in a deficit..
I can't believe you are even trying to make THAT argument...talk about ridiculousness...
Sorry, I'm not following. I never suggested that evil makes us obese or that food was evil.
My point was if food was nothing but fuel, then people wouldn't overeat. But food is more than just fuel. It's pleasure. It's how we celebrate and show love.
moving the goalposts, I see.
People overeat because they choose to...
are you really saying that food is programming people to over eat?
Hmm, let me reread. Nope, I don't see where I said or suggested anything close to that.
so celebration with food leads to overeating, which leads to obesity then? That would be one hell of a celebration.
one hell of a celebration ... is that why you keep going back to "evil"?
that is your claim, not mine.
Nope. I said I might find losing easier if it were evil.
so viewing it as evil does not equal claiming it is evil?
"would be" "if it were"
so when you said "I want to avoid evil" that is not what you meant?
Okay, let me see if I can spell it out more. I want to avoid evil (because I think evil is bad and scary). I think I might find losing weight easier IF some foods were evil, because, as stated above, I want to avoid evil. So, IF some foods were evil, then I would want to avoid them.
so you avoid foods that you feel are evil ...
glad we cleared that up .0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I eat everything and make sure that I hit my calorie/micro/macro targets for the day ...life is easier when you don't view food as bad/evil/etc
Easy is subjective. I think I would find losing weight easier if I could view some food as evil. I want to avoid evil. Viewing it as wonderfully delicious makes it hard.
why would any food be "evil"....it is just something that fuels your body
If food were just something that fueled our bodies, why would anyone be overweight? Food is more than just fuel, whether it should be or not.
because they eat too much of it...
If food were really "evil" and caused weight gain on its own, then you get obese by eating in a deficit..
I can't believe you are even trying to make THAT argument...talk about ridiculousness...
Sorry, I'm not following. I never suggested that evil makes us obese or that food was evil.
My point was if food was nothing but fuel, then people wouldn't overeat. But food is more than just fuel. It's pleasure. It's how we celebrate and show love.
moving the goalposts, I see.
People overeat because they choose to...
are you really saying that food is programming people to over eat?
Hmm, let me reread. Nope, I don't see where I said or suggested anything close to that.
so celebration with food leads to overeating, which leads to obesity then? That would be one hell of a celebration.
one hell of a celebration ... is that why you keep going back to "evil"?
that is your claim, not mine.
Nope. I said I might find losing easier if it were evil.
so viewing it as evil does not equal claiming it is evil?
"would be" "if it were"
so when you said "I want to avoid evil" that is not what you meant?
Okay, let me see if I can spell it out more. I want to avoid evil (because I think evil is bad and scary). I think I might find losing weight easier IF some foods were evil, because, as stated above, I want to avoid evil. So, IF some foods were evil, then I would want to avoid them.
so you avoid foods that you feel are evil ...
glad we cleared that up .
Absolutely!! Who would willingly consume evil? Not this girl. No way, no how.0 -
MoiAussi93 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »There's no reason to cut out any food unless:- you have a medical reason
- you don't like it
- it makes you feel sick
Otherwise eat all the foods.
I think- you want to
But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.
Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.
It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.
And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?
I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population
Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves
Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.
I don't binge (not if I cut out foods and not if I eat them in moderation). I have been known to plan to eat something in moderation and overeat, and I have been known to obsess more about a food because I decided I wouldn't eat it than if I simply placed it on the back burner (i.e., I'll eat it on special occasions when I have the calories). On the whole the latter strategy works better for me, and following it there are lots of foods that I haven't cut out but almost never eat. I'm not sure why officially cutting stuff out permanently would work better, but as you said people are different, so I'm not denying that it might, for some. (I would deny that it's healthier or better in general, of course.)
In any case, what I question is that cutting something out makes it not available. Stopping overeating at home was something that was easy for me, since at home was a place where I wasted too many calories on meals, but I never have really kept snacky stuff at home (I do more now than when I was gaining weight, in fact, since I have ice cream on hand now, and protein bars, and yogurt and dried fruit and nuts). Where I snacked before starting this was at work, at parties/get togethers, or, on occasion, after an impulse buy at the store. I still have those precise temptations, so if I simply relied on lack of access I'd be in big trouble. If I were a binger, binging would be easy enough.0
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