Weird Addiction Happening
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I'm just going to leave this here and continue having a headache... Also, @ana3067 , the community gif is awesomely fitting.
verb (used without object)
1.
to abstain from all food.
2.
to eat only sparingly or of certain kinds of food, especially as a religious observance.
verb (used with object)
3.
to cause to abstain entirely from or limit food; put on a fast:
to fast a patient for a day before surgery.
noun
4.
an abstinence from food, or a limiting of one's food, especially when voluntary and as a religious observance; fasting.
5.
a day or period of fasting.
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CorinnaShaw wrote: »CorinnaShaw wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »Nevermind. I stand corrected. Eat Stop Eat does 24 hour fasts. I don't know how advisable it is for a diabetic to be doing it.
I thought that was 5:2 and you eat like minimal calories on those days 200 to 400..???
No. I just have a really big meal once a day and the other things I eat are pretty minimal when I do eat them.
So you are eating throughout the day, they are just low calorie intakes.
Not fasting?
Not so much through out the day. I typically only have 1-2 snacks and I rarely need insulin for them because (unless it's fruit) they are low carb. Sometimes I break it up and have a snack before my meal and one after my meal. Unless my snacks invokes meat, they are almost never over 100 calories.
So during your fasting period, you eat food?
Again, not fasting?
And again, fasting + diabetes = not good?
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mamapeach910 wrote: »No IF protocol that I know of calls for 24 hour abstention from food.
Eat Stop Eat (possibly the most well known IF protocol) has 24 hour fasting windows. Warrior Diet - also widely known - is close with 4 hour eating windows.
And Fat Loss Forever has a 36 hour fasting window.
i forgot about the warrior diet..
I thought 5:2 was maintenance on five days and like 200 calories on other two days???
but it was been a few years since I was did IF ...0 -
You can "bahahahaha" all you like...
From Miriam-Webster:
1. To abstain from food
2. To eat sparingly or abstain from certain foods
From Oxford:
1. Abstain from all or some kinds of food or drink, especially as a religious observance:
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Ok confession, I went through a period where I could barely afford much food and I'd save and drink the pasta water0
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There is a healthy version of "chicken bouillon"....it is vegan and just a mixture of herbs...tastes just like the real thing!0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »No IF protocol that I know of calls for 24 hour abstention from food.
Eat Stop Eat (possibly the most well known IF protocol) has 24 hour fasting windows. Warrior Diet - also widely known - is close with 4 hour eating windows.
And Fat Loss Forever has a 36 hour fasting window.
i forgot about the warrior diet..
I thought 5:2 was maintenance on five days and like 200 calories on other two days???
but it was been a few years since I was did IF ...
At this point, I think there's a protocol for every possible number of hours in the eating window and every possible number of calories inside and outside the eating windows.
From the papers I've read, meaningful physiological benefits start kicking in around hour 16, so IMO it's all good - just find one that works and is adherable. For me it's 18-6, although I haven't actually tried to do a 24hr yet.0 -
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »You had the flu fasted for 24 hours ate oranges and soup and your question is? I may have missed a few steps in there. . . .and your type 1 diabetic?
I didn't have it for 24 hours. I had it for over a week and that was pretty much all I ate. Yes I am T1D and my question is just if there is a reason I would crave something like that and if it was unhealthy.0 -
CorinnaShaw wrote: »CorinnaShaw wrote: »I don't think IF calls for a 24 hour fast….I believe for females they recommend 14 hour fast and 10 hour eating window or something….
There are a variety of ways you can do it. iF is not set in stone. Like I said, I eat 1 large meal a day then either a snack or another smaller meal. Sometimes a snack on produce or bits of meat or a hard boiled egg or even a handful of nuts or seeds it they are available. Bouillon fills me up for about 30 minutes then I go pee and I am not full so I don't even think of it as a meal unless there are meat and veggies in it.
thats not IF..
I ran IF for about six to eight months..
you don't "snack" in your fast window..and I have never seen it call for a 24 hour fast….
I think one meal a day is called the warrior fast or warrior diet or something like that. That is too hardcore for me right now although I would like to be there at some point. There are a few variations of IF. Having something else small to eat really helps me with where I am right now. I honestly never claimed to fast to start off with. This jerk accused me of fasting in a previous thread then I said look up IF because then he would see that short fasting periods aren't bad. Then he ran with it and accused me of fasting and has been selectivity picking things I say to counter and here we are. I have been up front from the start that I only eat one large meal a day but I never said that was the only meal I had. I have explained my snacking habits.
You actually did say you fasted in the other thread. Several times. You are diabetic, fasting protocols for the general population are not designed for you.
No diet protocol is advised for anyone who isn't already in great health without a doctor's supervision. I cut out breakfast on my endocrinologist's requests when he was reading my food journals and saw that my BG always went up after breakfast with no common factors other than the fact that I was eating at all. He said stop eating breakfast so I did and I have never looked back. My BG really started to be easier to regulate after that. After that, I went from eating lunch and dinner down to basically just eating one meal a day and my second meal becoming so small it was almost the size of a snack. Then I started looking into fasting diets to see if they were as bad as people said because I was waiting for negative side effects to kick in, but instead I learned it could actually be really healthy for you so I ended up changing up things to where I was no longer eating lunch early in the afternoon and made my biggest meal between lunch and dinner time. A hardly eat anything else and on occasion I don't eat anything else at all. It all depends on the day. I feel good so I am not concerned with the frequency of my meals. Call it fasting or don't. I guess it is kind of in the middle. As long as it makes me feel healthy and I am able to regulate my sugars.0 -
_Terrapin_ wrote: »CorinnaShaw wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »You had the flu fasted for 24 hours ate oranges and soup and your question is? I may have missed a few steps in there. . . .and your type 1 diabetic?
Yes, I am type 1 diabetic. What I am saying is that while I had the flu, the only thing I ate was soup and oranges and now fast forward over a month later and I am still craving them. Is this bad or am I okay? Is it a sign of something like maybe some sort of deficiency or an addiction? Should I even be giving it a second thought?
Okay I got it now. Is it bad? No. Unless your Catholic and your priest isn't an orange fan. I think the soup(at least the sodium) may be something you want if you are moving(exercising more). As for a second thought. . . .nah. Enjoy it and move on.
I am catholic. O.O Hahahahahaha0 -
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CorinnaShaw wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »CorinnaShaw wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »You had the flu fasted for 24 hours ate oranges and soup and your question is? I may have missed a few steps in there. . . .and your type 1 diabetic?
Yes, I am type 1 diabetic. What I am saying is that while I had the flu, the only thing I ate was soup and oranges and now fast forward over a month later and I am still craving them. Is this bad or am I okay? Is it a sign of something like maybe some sort of deficiency or an addiction? Should I even be giving it a second thought?
Okay I got it now. Is it bad? No. Unless your Catholic and your priest isn't an orange fan. I think the soup(at least the sodium) may be something you want if you are moving(exercising more). As for a second thought. . . .nah. Enjoy it and move on.
I am catholic. O.O Hahahahahaha
Well, there's your problem.
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CorinnaShaw wrote: »flyingtanuki wrote: »CorinnaShaw wrote: »...
Can you dumb that down a bit, please? Haha
Well, basically it's a learned response. We can be taught things quite well by reinforcement. In other words "rewards" or positive outcomes or "punishments" or negative outcomes teach us whether to maintain a particular behavior. You've established a positive outcome (yummy calories incoming) with satisfying a craving. Take away the reward - or substitute a different one - and after a while you might find yourself craving something different when your mind tries to get you to consume some nutrients.
So consuming all the soup and oranges while I was sick (which did relieve my flu symptoms) caused me to develop a reward response to it and develop an addiction?
soup and oranges have nothing to do with relieving flu symptoms…just FYI
They may help with potassium however.0 -
I wish I craved oranges and chicken bullion...right now I'm craving eclairs! CICO FTW. The rest, barring a health condition, doesn't really matter.0
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CorinnaShaw wrote: »A few weeks ago, I caught the flu. During that time I developed a weird craving for oranges and soup. It seemed understandable at the time; oranges for vitamin C and soup well... because soup. Only now we are over a month away from that time and I am still craving them like crazy. I don't mind craving the oranges because it's a fruit and it's healthy. However, the chicken bouillon I have been drinking is loaded with sodium. Like one the third of the recommended amount in a single serving. I am just waiting for the heart attack at this point because I am drinking several cups of it a day. Why am I craving bouillon and oranges like this? Has anyone else had a weird experience like this? Should I completely cut it out of my diet, ignore it and drink it when I want, or are there healthier substitutes?
What???
MrM27 knows everything.0 -
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jennifer_417 wrote: »I wish I craved oranges and chicken bullion...right now I'm craving eclairs! CICO FTW. The rest, barring a health condition, doesn't really matter.
I made a batch of sugary PB cookies last night (normally I make protein stuff, so this was totally different from what I normally bake!) and I'm totally craving those... it made 19 cookies. Lost one to the floor and 4 to my stomach in the last 24 hours LOL. Probably going to eat one nightly until they are gone.0 -
peachyfuzzle wrote: »I had salt once, and I got the clap. Not sure if there related. Wouldn't chance it.
Lmao
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jigglyjessica wrote: »Ok confession, I went through a period where I could barely afford much food and I'd save and drink the pasta water
You guys are killing me today.......too funny.0 -
Oranges are pretty cool. But how do you feel about...
tangerines?
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CorinnaShaw wrote: »CorinnaShaw wrote: »What???
Because everyone says too much sodium is super bad and will appera thy kill you. I didn't mean that literally. I'm just saying I am getting an awful lot of sodium from this bouillon.
Recent info is that sugar is one of the primary predictors of heart disease. I had 'good' cholesterol numbers, a good BMI and had a massive heart attack 18 months ago. It was a shock to my doctor as much as it was to me and my friends until we found this study and I had one of those 'aha!' moments. I'm not suggesting over indulging in fried chicken or potato chips but worry about sugar as much or more than the things we've been hearing about for the past few decades.0 -
Make your own broth. I used to just cut up onion, garlic, shallots and toss them in my slow cooker with a whole organic chicken and add whatever seasoning I was in the mood for (little bit of salt, pepper, etc.) and cook on low. When it was finished I removed the chicken and strained the broth into a container. I used this later to make my quinoa.0
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Did your Priest date a woman from Syracuse, break up, and then enter the priesthood?CorinnaShaw wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »CorinnaShaw wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »You had the flu fasted for 24 hours ate oranges and soup and your question is? I may have missed a few steps in there. . . .and your type 1 diabetic?
Yes, I am type 1 diabetic. What I am saying is that while I had the flu, the only thing I ate was soup and oranges and now fast forward over a month later and I am still craving them. Is this bad or am I okay? Is it a sign of something like maybe some sort of deficiency or an addiction? Should I even be giving it a second thought?
Okay I got it now. Is it bad? No. Unless your Catholic and your priest isn't an orange fan. I think the soup(at least the sodium) may be something you want if you are moving(exercising more). As for a second thought. . . .nah. Enjoy it and move on.
I am catholic. O.O Hahahahahaha
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They do sell No-Salt bullion.0
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They do sell No-Salt bullion.0
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Can you do reduced sodium chicken broth instead? lol. just a thought.0
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