My rock bottom... trying to get out :(

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  • kammcc2
    kammcc2 Posts: 1
    I haven't read all (6 pages!) of replies to your post, but enough to see that many people are telling you what I also think:

    1) You do not deserve to be treated the way your husband has been treating you forever. You need to extract yourself from that situation, permanently. If you don't, he will ruin your life. Don't give him that power. You cannot change him. Save yourself.

    2) It would really help you to start talking to some Domestic Violence people -- they can help give you some clarity, perspective, and desperately needed support.

    3) Alcohol does not help -- in fact, it makes everything worse. Nobody is forcing you to drink. You have the power to stop.

    4) At 6 foot tall, one formula for "ideal weight" for a woman is this:
    (100 lbs for 5 ft) + (5 lbs for every inch above 5 ft)
    = 100 + 60
    = 160.

    So, at 189lbs, you're only 29 lbs above that "ideal."

    That is not "grossly fat" or any other nasty terms that jerk has thrown at you. (I need to lose 60 lbs to reach my "ideal" -- you only have half that to lose.) Losing between 1/2 and 1 lb per week is healthy and sustainable. And it's YOUR choice, YOUR body, YOUR life. Nobody else gets to say anything about YOUR body.

    Please do what you know you need to do to save YOUR self from this situation. Maybe start by making two side-by-side lists: Reasons to STAY versus Reasons to GO.

    Love yourself.
  • Vanessa6122
    Vanessa6122 Posts: 14 Member
    OMG...I feel for you. I've recently hit rock bottom too with my husband of 12 years leaving me last month and having turmoil in my job myself. I know that your husband (piece of *kitten*) kicking you out is hard but I think it's a blessing in disguise. I found this great book and website where you can get help. It's called (getting past your breakup . com) they also have a section on women of domestic violence and you can blog and get help there. You can also read a book that I've started to read (it's pretty rough but keep reading it) called Codependent No More.

    Hope that helps and please know that you're worth it! Just because you have idiots (husband and boss) in your life that don't see your true worth doesn't mean you have to actually believe them.

    You're worth it!!

  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
    newmeadow wrote: »
    What's all this about a women's shelter for the OP? It seems a bit of a stretch, given the information provided in this thread.

    She wasn't threatened with physical violence or financial ruin. She wasn't extorted, whored out, physically attacked, stalked, denied food and water, prevented from working, prevented from attending AA meetings, or cut off from family relationships. In fact, using her own words, he kicked her out.

    Just because a guy didn't go to charm school, it doesn't make him an arch predator and a danger to society. Jeez.

    I mentioned shelters because she can talk to people who have the experience and understand what abused women go through. Perfectly sensible assistance for someone going through a difficult experience. The man is an abuser.

    Do you have anything positive to contribute?
  • pascalealana
    pascalealana Posts: 14 Member
    I came across your story just today but read through most of the posts. I am extremely proud of you for what you have accomplished so far. The road ahead is looking good for you especially if you focus on you. I am sorry about losing your job that was sad to see reading through the thread I was hoping you would be able to keep your job and support yourself without having to support your husband. You are stronger than you know and like many people have said you deserve so much better and life can be so much better although it will be scary trying newthings. I hope that you become happier even if its scary. Its hard to separate yourself from someone you love so much but if you do get a divorce and focus on yourself you will meet someone who loves your body and loves you. Someone who wants to take care of YOU as much as you need to take care of yourself. A partner in life is supposed to be your teammate. Someone who loves and cares for you works with you to achieve goals. They dont tell you to leave until you are at the goal. That is not uncondiontal love and that shouldnt have been what you signed up for. Lucky for you you can make money as a lawyer even if it wasnt your dream job. You dont need a man who forces you to take care of them. Take care of you :) One day you will see what love can really be and you will look back at this marriage and see what everyone else sees. Most importantly you will be happy and free!
  • DKLI
    DKLI Posts: 63 Member
    He's texting you to make sure he's still in control. Do not respond. He doesn't regret or feel sorry about what he's done to you, he feels it's his right. Do not tell him anything about what you are doing. You do not want him to know where you are, when you'll be somewhere, who you are with.

    I know it's hard right now. You feel like part of you is missing bur remember that the part that is missing is the negative, violent and controlling part. Only you control your life so from now on, please try to think that way. You have all of the control.

    He thinks if he threatens you, belittles you, or makes you feel you can't survive without him, he wins. He did you a BIG favor making you leave. He will come to realize that instead of you crawling back to him, begging him to let you back in, he has lost total control. He has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, look it up. Because of the years of him being able to make you do anything he wishes, he is assuming things will return to the way they were once you come home and "obey" his orders to lose weight, follow a schedule, check in with him, breathe correctly, whatever he dictates. You should remember that the more you try to bend to his control, the less he respects you and the worse it will get. You cannot win with a Narcissist.

    Today is the day you get your life back.
  • PlumpKitten
    PlumpKitten Posts: 112 Member
    Weight is not your issue right now.
    I am helping a friend through a long, terrible divorce from an abusive man. She's a lovely woman who hung onto that horrible marriage for years. I've learned more about abuse & family law than I ever wanted to.

    Abusive is abusive, and it will never change.
    Your husband is psychologically unstable and will hurt both you and himself.
    Abuse starts with a slur, a yelling-at, then a hard kick under the covers, then a shove, then a punch, then even worse. Don't let it get there.

    1. Keep going to AA. You need to keep this under control to do the rest of it.
    2. Don't physically go home except to get your stuff. Start a physical separation from your husband immediately & note the date.
    3. Take notes on the details and dates of all instances of abuse and communications. Your law training will come in handy.
    4. Get a good divorce lawyer.

    Once you leave him and get the drinking under control, then go back to dieting.

    BTW, at almost 6', you're not very overweight. You might not be a supermodel, but you are hardly obese. I'm going to guess you're on the heavy side of normal. And that's not the issue anyway. If it wasn't your weight, it'd be your aging, or hair, or dress. That's how abusive men are.

    Good luck. Take care of yourself.

  • DKLI
    DKLI Posts: 63 Member
    I was also going to suggest filing for a legal separation. I know it sounds terrible but you will suffer from PTSD once you are fully away, legally and physically. Don't let that stop you because you will wake up from those bad dreams relieved they were only dreams and not your life.
  • Formyownsake
    Formyownsake Posts: 88 Member
    Thank you everyone again for your comments.

    To the few that said I wasn't being physically abused so I shouldn't go to a women's shelter (which I haven't yet and not sure I will), I was being very physically abused. My posts have focused on the verbal abuse, because it reality, it hurts so much worse.

    There is rarely a day that I didn't have a bruise. Mostly my legs and upper arms (he likes to hit me where my clothes will cover) but there have been worse incidents.

    One day a couple years ago when he saw me eating chocolate (but wanted me to lose weight, like now), he took his wedding ring off and threw it as hard as he could at me. It hit me square in the middle of my left eye, and I almost went blind in that eye. I had to go to the hospital and get treated to save my eyesight. I told people at work it was from playing street hockey and a hockey stick got me in the eye.

    I have had a couple of fractured bones as well. He has squeezed my fat so hard I started to bleed from his nails digging into me.

    He has destroyed a lot of my property too. He has smashed an old laptop of mine and I lost all my data. He has ripped up my clothes that he doesn't like. He has torn apart our wedding album. He has ripped up blankets that I knitted and tore apart jewelry that I made (I like arts and crafts, and he usually destroys the things I put my heart into).

    I met my AA sponsor today for coffee and told her everything. She is being very supportive of me. She is 4 years sober, a criminal defence lawyer, and told me that she will tell me her story next, but that it was just as bad, if not worse than mine.

    I am still not drinking. 15 days sober.

    I like the idea of calling my psychologist first, before the Wednesday meeting, to discuss the situation before I remind him about the appointment (that is, if I do... he might actually remember and just show up).

    He texted me about an hour and a half ago: "I'm starting to clean the house. I would like to get together after to talk, message me back and let me know if you want to meet up".

    I haven't replied.

    A part of me wants to meet him to tell him I will be staying with my parents for longer. That we will stay separated. If he tries to apologize and defend himself I would walk away. But I also think I should just let him know how I feel with silence. I am also still clouded with emotions and may be a little weak, buying into his apologies if he has any.

    To all of those who have taken the time to read my messages and send me supportive comments, I want to thank you. I admit to not being the strongest person right now. And I know some think I am stupid for not filing for divorce yet or making a decision.

    In fact, one of the pieces of advice I have received from many of my fellow AA members is: "You should not make any major decisions in your first year of sobriety".

    One lady posted, a few posts back:

    "It appears she still pines after him and has no immediate plans to divorce him. Eeeewww. I wish I never commented on this thread.

    I'm out."

    To be quite honest, I was really hurt by that. Started crying. But it's because I am dealing with depression and anxiety and complete sadness and my mental illness is standing in the way of me being completely confident in anything. The fact I am staying with my parents and not begging for him to forgive me and take me back, is a HUGE difference for me, as that it what I would typically do.

    I have to take one step at a time and I'm sorry to those who do not think I am acting quick enough.



  • azulvioleta6
    azulvioleta6 Posts: 4,195 Member
    DKLI wrote: »
    He's texting you to make sure he's still in control. Do not respond. He doesn't regret or feel sorry about what he's done to you, he feels it's his right. Do not tell him anything about what you are doing. You do not want him to know where you are, when you'll be somewhere, who you are with.

    Exactly.

    I think that the idea of looking into legal separation is a good one.

  • zacksnana
    zacksnana Posts: 3,230 Member
    edited April 2015

    Thank you everyone again for your comments.

    To the few that said I wasn't being physically abused so I shouldn't go to a women's shelter (which I haven't yet and not sure I will), I was being very physically abused. My posts have focused on the verbal abuse, because it reality, it hurts so much worse.

    There is rarely a day that I didn't have a bruise. Mostly my legs and upper arms (he likes to hit me where my clothes will cover) but there have been worse incidents.

    One day a couple years ago when he saw me eating chocolate (but wanted me to lose weight, like now), he took his wedding ring off and threw it as hard as he could at me. It hit me square in the middle of my left eye, and I almost went blind in that eye. I had to go to the hospital and get treated to save my eyesight. I told people at work it was from playing street hockey and a hockey stick got me in the eye.

    I have had a couple of fractured bones as well. He has squeezed my fat so hard I started to bleed from his nails digging into me.

    He has destroyed a lot of my property too. He has smashed an old laptop of mine and I lost all my data. He has ripped up my clothes that he doesn't like. He has torn apart our wedding album. He has ripped up blankets that I knitted and tore apart jewelry that I made (I like arts and crafts, and he usually destroys the things I put my heart into).

    I met my AA sponsor today for coffee and told her everything. She is being very supportive of me. She is 4 years sober, a criminal defence lawyer, and told me that she will tell me her story next, but that it was just as bad, if not worse than mine.

    I am still not drinking. 15 days sober.

    I like the idea of calling my psychologist first, before the Wednesday meeting, to discuss the situation before I remind him about the appointment (that is, if I do... he might actually remember and just show up).

    He texted me about an hour and a half ago: "I'm starting to clean the house. I would like to get together after to talk, message me back and let me know if you want to meet up".

    I haven't replied.

    A part of me wants to meet him to tell him I will be staying with my parents for longer. That we will stay separated. If he tries to apologize and defend himself I would walk away. But I also think I should just let him know how I feel with silence. I am also still clouded with emotions and may be a little weak, buying into his apologies if he has any.

    To all of those who have taken the time to read my messages and send me supportive comments, I want to thank you. I admit to not being the strongest person right now. And I know some think I am stupid for not filing for divorce yet or making a decision.

    In fact, one of the pieces of advice I have received from many of my fellow AA members is: "You should not make any major decisions in your first year of sobriety".

    One lady posted, a few posts back:

    "It appears she still pines after him and has no immediate plans to divorce him. Eeeewww. I wish I never commented on this thread.

    I'm out."

    To be quite honest, I was really hurt by that. Started crying. But it's because I am dealing with depression and anxiety and complete sadness and my mental illness is standing in the way of me being completely confident in anything. The fact I am staying with my parents and not begging for him to forgive me and take me back, is a HUGE difference for me, as that it what I would typically do.

    I have to take one step at a time and I'm sorry to those who do not think I am acting quick enough.



    Sweetie don't feel bad about the comment that poster made. It disgusted many of us. You are doing the right thing by ignoring your soon to be ex-husband. (See I will stay positive enough for both of us. :) )keep taking one step at a time. You are getting there. You CAN and WILL do this.

    You don't have to keep taking the abuse. Why would he stop now?? He's trying to lure you back with fake kindness but it will be a matter of days - if not less - and he will be back to abusing you.

    Don't fall for it. Stay strong.
  • ChristaNorris
    ChristaNorris Posts: 52 Member
    I will stay with my parents for a while. One thing about leaving that frightens me is telling my friends and extended family. They all love him and they do not know how he treats me. I would feel so ashamed for covering it up for so long. All the gifts they gave us as a married couple. All the cards, the conversations... all a lie. (?). It's too scary for me to think about such a big change.

    Thank you to those who have taken the time to read my post and reply with such thoughtful comments.

    They wouldn't give those material items a second thought. They would be proud of you for loving yourself enough to say no more. And I hope you reach a point where you're able to do that. Your value as a person is not in a number on a scale.
  • jkal1979
    jkal1979 Posts: 1,896 Member
    edited April 2015
    I will stay with my parents for a while. One thing about leaving that frightens me is telling my friends and extended family. They all love him and they do not know how he treats me. I would feel so ashamed for covering it up for so long. All the gifts they gave us as a married couple. All the cards, the conversations... all a lie. (?). It's too scary for me to think about such a big change.

    Thank you to those who have taken the time to read my post and reply with such thoughtful comments.

    I think you are really brave.

    Don't feel like you have to go into detail with others about what happened. If all you feel comfortable with saying is that things just didn't work out and leave it at that it's fine to do so. I've been in your situation before and it took me about five years until I told my mom and sister about the physical abuse that I went through with my ex. Up until then they knew that things were bad but did not know any specific details.
  • ajcc500
    ajcc500 Posts: 32 Member
    Thank you everyone again for your comments.

    To the few that said I wasn't being physically abused so I shouldn't go to a women's shelter (which I haven't yet and not sure I will), I was being very physically abused. My posts have focused on the verbal abuse, because it reality, it hurts so much worse.

    There is rarely a day that I didn't have a bruise. Mostly my legs and upper arms (he likes to hit me where my clothes will cover) but there have been worse incidents.

    One day a couple years ago when he saw me eating chocolate (but wanted me to lose weight, like now), he took his wedding ring off and threw it as hard as he could at me. It hit me square in the middle of my left eye, and I almost went blind in that eye. I had to go to the hospital and get treated to save my eyesight. I told people at work it was from playing street hockey and a hockey stick got me in the eye.

    I have had a couple of fractured bones as well. He has squeezed my fat so hard I started to bleed from his nails digging into me.

    He has destroyed a lot of my property too. He has smashed an old laptop of mine and I lost all my data. He has ripped up my clothes that he doesn't like. He has torn apart our wedding album. He has ripped up blankets that I knitted and tore apart jewelry that I made (I like arts and crafts, and he usually destroys the things I put my heart into).

    I met my AA sponsor today for coffee and told her everything. She is being very supportive of me. She is 4 years sober, a criminal defence lawyer, and told me that she will tell me her story next, but that it was just as bad, if not worse than mine.

    I am still not drinking. 15 days sober.

    I like the idea of calling my psychologist first, before the Wednesday meeting, to discuss the situation before I remind him about the appointment (that is, if I do... he might actually remember and just show up).

    He texted me about an hour and a half ago: "I'm starting to clean the house. I would like to get together after to talk, message me back and let me know if you want to meet up".

    I haven't replied.

    A part of me wants to meet him to tell him I will be staying with my parents for longer. That we will stay separated. If he tries to apologize and defend himself I would walk away. But I also think I should just let him know how I feel with silence. I am also still clouded with emotions and may be a little weak, buying into his apologies if he has any.

    To all of those who have taken the time to read my messages and send me supportive comments, I want to thank you. I admit to not being the strongest person right now. And I know some think I am stupid for not filing for divorce yet or making a decision.

    In fact, one of the pieces of advice I have received from many of my fellow AA members is: "You should not make any major decisions in your first year of sobriety".

    One lady posted, a few posts back:

    "It appears she still pines after him and has no immediate plans to divorce him. Eeeewww. I wish I never commented on this thread.

    I'm out."

    To be quite honest, I was really hurt by that. Started crying. But it's because I am dealing with depression and anxiety and complete sadness and my mental illness is standing in the way of me being completely confident in anything. The fact I am staying with my parents and not begging for him to forgive me and take me back, is a HUGE difference for me, as that it what I would typically do.

    I have to take one step at a time and I'm sorry to those who do not think I am acting quick enough.



    I don't often post on here but I keep reading this thread to see how you are doing. First of all, I want to say a huge CONGRATULATIONS on being sober. That is a HUGE achievement and shows just how strong you are!!
    Secondly, ignore that poster. The comment made me angry and I believe it comes from somebody who has never had any personal experience of being hurt either physically, mentally or emotionally by their partner. Please do not take it to heart.
    Thirdly, I really want you to be wary of meeting up with him. Ignoring his texts is clearly getting to him as he is starting to see he is losing control. I fear that if you physically go and see him and tell him you're not coming back that he may do something drastic to either prevent you leaving or to regain his sense of control. PLEASE be careful, you are doing so well on your own!! You are sober, you are free of your horrific and controlling boss, you have a new car, you are beginning to see through your husband's actions and you know they are not because of you. Think of the amazing possibilities in your future! You can do ANYTHING you want to if you see that in yourself. We are all complete strangers and we care about you enough to keep checking in and trying to make you see the amazing person that we all see.

    Stay strong. Stay safe. You do not need that *kitten* in your life!! xx
  • palwithme
    palwithme Posts: 860 Member
    slideaway1 wrote: »
    But saying that you have to take responsibility for marrying someone who is clearly a dickhead. Surely you knew he was such a *kitten* when you married him.

    Real life is so much more complicated. Honestly, I think that this is a pretty horrible thing to say, but I'm going to guess that you are too young to understand why.

    ETA: Nope, you are old enough to know better...but you do admit to being stupid in your profile, so let's just go with that.

    LMAO!!!
  • crystal24dawn2015
    crystal24dawn2015 Posts: 19 Member
    Sweetheart you need to start losing weight... HIM... just think, you are already down however many pounds he weighs. NO ONE has the right to do those things to you & even though I don't know you I do know you deserve better than that.
  • bri170lb
    bri170lb Posts: 1,375 Member
    Sweetheart you need to start losing weight... HIM... just think, you are already down however many pounds he weighs. NO ONE has the right to do those things to you & even though I don't know you I do know you deserve better than that.

    I agree. From your very tirst post I thought, "The intake you need to manage is HIM!".
  • headedforhawaii
    headedforhawaii Posts: 2 Member
    I was in an awful relationship with 7 years invested in it. I didn't want to throw it all away. I felt like I had wasted 7 years of my life if I didn't hang in there.Then a classmate opened my eyes by asking me why do I want to waste another 7 years? I ended it that day, best thing I ever did, it took a few months of sadness, then I reinvented myself because I was free!

    You have a great degree behind you, be proud! You don't need anyone right now, take care of yourself. The only good thing he did for you was to tell you to get a law degree, at least now you can escape and make a great living for yourself and find a future loving partner.

  • Wreathy
    Wreathy Posts: 61 Member
    edited April 2015
    I've been in an abusive relationship before - he manipulated me at every turn, separated me from my friends and reduced my self-esteem to nothing. It took going to counselling, and a couple of aborted attempts, to leave. Things came to a head when he held me down with a piece of broken china to my throat, then proceeded to cut his own arms begging me to come back. It's been 17 years (ugh, I was so young it makes me sick) and I still have nightmares, and see him everywhere I go.

    You must leave. You have one life, and one life only. Get out now. Do what you have to. You have a lot of deprogramming to do - you literally need to create new neural pathways in your brain. You can't do that on your own - you must be away from the situation and have professional help.

    And realise that every single kind word he says, and every enquiry into how you are while you are separated is designed to control you and bring you back.

    He will not change.

    He absolutely will not change.
  • Formyownsake
    Formyownsake Posts: 88 Member
    I have been ignoring my husband's texts today. I didn't go meet up with him like he wanted.

    I'm taking one day at a time. This is the strongest I have ever been. Have I "officially" left him yet? No. But this is the best I have come to it since the beginning of our relationship. I am trying to build up courage and each and every one of you is helping me find myself again.

    I need this time to work on me. I am still weak and clouded with emotions. But I'm trying.

    Not looking forward to seeing my old boss sometime this week so she can let me back in the office to collect my stuff.

    Oh, and P.S., another lawyer from the firm called me today because she heard the news and said she was shocked and didn't agree with how my boss handled the situation... going into politics and leaving me to do all the work only to let me go when I didn't bill enough to cover all of our salaries. She said many people have worked for her and each time it ended badly. She said she is there to support me and would give me a reference any day (even though I didn't work for her, it is an association of independent law practices and she just shared our office space).

    I love you all. I feel so much love from around the world. More love than I have ever felt from him.
  • glutenfreechic
    glutenfreechic Posts: 57 Member
    Managingintake, you are doing everything right, the steps you are taking to look after yourself are brilliant, you are doing a great job. Keep on keeping on, one step at a time, one day at a time, sometimes even one hour at a time.

    You know that you cannot go back. You know this. Do this thing now, not when you're 50 or 60 or worse if you don't make it that far.

    He will be becoming unsettled because his control of your life is slipping. Prepare yourself for this. He will try everything to make you surrender. Don't.

    Follow the AA steps. Promise yourself you will suspend this relationship for the year it tells you to. It will give you strength and direction. Truly, this is the path to your happiness that you are dreaming of. The one where you come home at night feeling happy and knowing as you close the door you can stay happy all evening. There will be no tension you can cut with a knife, no eggshells to walk on, no fear, no pain, no one telling you what to eat, wear, do, look like, etc. It's your turn now.

    And yes you do deserve it. Take it and run xxx
  • azulvioleta6
    azulvioleta6 Posts: 4,195 Member

    I'm taking one day at a time. This is the strongest I have ever been. Have I "officially" left him yet? No. But this is the best I have come to it since the beginning of our relationship. I am trying to build up courage and each and every one of you is helping me find myself again.

    There's no need to do anything on any timetable other than your own.

    My thought about separation was mostly that it would be a good idea to take steps to protect your assets. You're going to need whatever you have to start rebuilding.
  • ChristaNorris
    ChristaNorris Posts: 52 Member
    P.S. Just as I posted that last message, my husband texted me "how are you doing?".

    Why do I have the urge to reply? I won't... But I want to reply with something that will make him feel bad or want to change...

    Argh!

    Reply with the POSITIVE. You're wonderful, thank you for asking.
  • zacksnana
    zacksnana Posts: 3,230 Member
    P.S. Just as I posted that last message, my husband texted me "how are you doing?".

    Why do I have the urge to reply? I won't... But I want to reply with something that will make him feel bad or want to change...

    Argh!

    Reply with the POSITIVE. You're wonderful, thank you for asking.

    Since she is getting out of a domestic violence situation I don't recommend any contact at all. Has the potential to not end well. In normal situations your advice is pretty good. But this situation is far from normal.
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
    edited April 2015
    I have been ignoring my husband's texts today. I didn't go meet up with him like he wanted.

    I'm taking one day at a time. This is the strongest I have ever been. Have I "officially" left him yet? No. But this is the best I have come to it since the beginning of our relationship. I am trying to build up courage and each and every one of you is helping me find myself again.

    I need this time to work on me. I am still weak and clouded with emotions. But I'm trying.

    Not looking forward to seeing my old boss sometime this week so she can let me back in the office to collect my stuff.

    Oh, and P.S., another lawyer from the firm called me today because she heard the news and said she was shocked and didn't agree with how my boss handled the situation... going into politics and leaving me to do all the work only to let me go when I didn't bill enough to cover all of our salaries. She said many people have worked for her and each time it ended badly. She said she is there to support me and would give me a reference any day (even though I didn't work for her, it is an association of independent law practices and she just shared our office space).

    I love you all. I feel so much love from around the world. More love than I have ever felt from him.

    Im impressed you are being stronger than you realise.
    The reference should give you an understanding that what your boss says is just her version and other people see it differently.

    Focus on AA as your priority and then cutting all contact with your husband. let him do it through a 3rd party if he must, but at the moment he is losing his grip over you so it will be getting to him. I understand it will be a difficult choice to make, but given time and feeling better/ less abused will help you see things more clearly and help you see how tocis he is and whats best for you.

    You are the priority, so stick at it. You are doing great. Please do not contact him as he wants control back. He wont change and he isnt good for you.

    What do your parents/ friends think?

    ps Realise that any response to him could be used as an excuse that to set him off. Avoid that risk yntil you know you can deal with his response. For the moment he is unsure and he hasnt realised the game could be changing.
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
    zacksnana wrote: »
    P.S. Just as I posted that last message, my husband texted me "how are you doing?".

    Why do I have the urge to reply? I won't... But I want to reply with something that will make him feel bad or want to change...

    Argh!

    Reply with the POSITIVE. You're wonderful, thank you for asking.

    Since she is getting out of a domestic violence situation I don't recommend any contact at all. Has the potential to not end well. In normal situations your advice is pretty good. But this situation is far from normal.

    Completely agree, he could turn nasty and decide she is mocking him.
  • KaneNLN
    KaneNLN Posts: 39 Member
    count ur macros live life be happy get shredded m8
  • ajcc500
    ajcc500 Posts: 32 Member
    I have been ignoring my husband's texts today. I didn't go meet up with him like he wanted.

    ...

    Not looking forward to seeing my old boss sometime this week so she can let me back in the office to collect my stuff.

    YES!! You saying you are still ignoring him and didn't meet up with him made me smile so much! You are so strong!! Keep going, you're amazing.

    You know what? Your boss doesn't matter anymore. Just go and get your things, do the handover stuff and leave because that negativity is no longer a part of your life. You have support from somebody who can give you a good reference so screw your boss, she's lost a good lawyer and her life must be so sad that she needs to treat people like that. You can walk out with your head held high knowing you worked hard and are a better person. I know I said this before but it's great news that you're still not drinking, every hour that goes by where you don't drink or contact your husband is a huge success and I hope you give yourself credit for it. It doesn't matter if you are officially separated or are even considering divorce - that's your timescale and your decision. What IS important is that you're safe, the rest absolutely does not matter right now.
  • Canwehugnow
    Canwehugnow Posts: 218 Member
    He's not your husband. He's a pitiful abuser. You say it is not that easy, but it has to be. You cannot stay in such a relationship.

    I am VERY proud of your week sobriety. That is an important step, and do not forget to go "one day at a time."
  • sofaking6
    sofaking6 Posts: 4,589 Member
    newmeadow wrote: »
    JaneiR36 wrote: »
    I thought physical abuse was mentioned, and

    2) The suggestion was to go there to see if they had classes, etc to help her get her life back together. And I bet they could help her with all the verbal abuse and feelings of worthlessness instilled by this man. Finally there's some hinky financial *kitten* going on that she needs to sort out - all the spending money being from her account and all the savings money being in his account?? You really don't see where this is going??

    If he hits her, that's a different story. I don't recall seeing it though.

    There may well be some financial exploitation going on, yes. But she's fully aware of it. She spelled it out in this thread. It wasn't hidden from her and she agreed to the terms.

    Unless she's developmentally disabled, demented, schizoid or experiencing intermittent psychotic episodes, she's able to make her own decisions. Seriously. If she's declared mentally incompetent then her parents could take custody of her and manage her money. It worked for Brittany Spears. Somehow I doubt she falls into this rather extreme category though.

    Also, she said her husband "made" her go to law school. That was nice of him. That's worth a lot of future financial security and is as good as money in the bank. It would probably be a good idea for her to put that proverbial money in her own bank account rather than his, but assuming she's of sound mind, she can do this anytime she wants. The sooner the better, one would think.

    There are some real victims in the world yes. But this? I don't think so.

    Asking for a flag here, but I can't help it- you are a disgusting human being.
  • Of_Monsters_and_Meat
    Of_Monsters_and_Meat Posts: 1,022 Member
    edited April 2015
    sofaking6 wrote: »
    Asking for a flag here, but I can't help it- you are a disgusting human being.

    Might I politely suggest instead say. While I value you as a person and a human being, on this one instance I do not share the same point of view. Here is a flower for you ::flowerforyou::

    Otherwise you really are risking getting a warning for posting something not so polite. God Bless. ::flowerforyou::

    EDIT: I notice that you did get a flag. I just want to point out that this was not me being in social justice warrior mode!!.