Fat balls/marbles under skin after weight loss

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  • mwebster01
    mwebster01 Posts: 111 Member
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    go c a doctor about it.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
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    geotrice wrote: »
    tomatoey wrote: »
    geotrice wrote: »
    tomatoey wrote: »
    fairy2b wrote: »
    WOAH!! YES!! THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I IMAGINE THEM AND WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE!!!! ce9t46cmsuye.jpg

    I thought that was some kind of bean dish at first. EW.

    Nope. Those are egg sacks. The toads burst out of and also between the sacks as their being birthed. It's horrifying to watch. The YouTube video when you google the frog shows it happening. Absolutely traumatized me as a kid. I still get hives when i see this frog.

    That sounds AWFUL. Barf. I can see why you were traumatized. Nature is horrible.

    (I don't know why the trauma had to be spread to us, though, to be honest.)

    lol because I couldn't find any images representing the descriptions provided on Google Image. That's all. Sorry for the gross out.

    Oh, I could....

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    I'm going to burn in hell, aren't I?

    Personally, I think this is fascinating.

  • PeachyCarol
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    mch2829 wrote: »
    I really don't think everyone on this thread has lipomas....

    Why would someone lie about it? They're not uncommon, especially among people who are overweight or obese. I had 2 of them removed last year while I was having a different surgery. Here's the tiny scar from where the surgeon removed them. (it's smaller than it appears in the pic. I had to take a close-up. The lighter lines around it are stretch marks.)

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    No, we believe that you had lipomas. We don't believe that we all have hundreds of them under our skin. My husband had surgery to remove two as well. Major abdominal surgery, in fact since his were large. They were quite different to what is being discussed.

  • PeachyCarol
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    jk1508 wrote: »
    I see lipomas regularly and work in health care. Yes you can be covered in them. They are simply lumps of adipose tissue. There is no known cause however research is indicating there may be genetic predisposition and people who develop one or two are statistically more likely to keep developing them. They are painless, unless they are in a sensitive area such as the armpit.

    Well, I think the difference here, or the problem here is that ... at least to me, a lipoma implies something that GREW... a fatty growth.

    What we're talking about are artifacts left after fat loss, or a weird distribution of fat tissue. It's not a new growth, just an odd distribution of previously existing ... stuff.

    See the difference?

  • jmichaelminton
    jmichaelminton Posts: 47 Member
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    I have a few of these (at least what I think we're talking about here). I always figured they were forming because the fat loss isn't necessarily even.
  • jmichaelminton
    jmichaelminton Posts: 47 Member
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    I have a few of these (at least what I think we're talking about here). I always figured they were forming because the fat loss isn't necessarily even.
  • jmichaelminton
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  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,605 Member
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    Might be fibrosis (the forming of connective tissue) that "could be a response to signals emerging from dysfunctional or dying adipocytes."
    See e.g., http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2963540/

    Medicine is NOT my field, however, and this is simply a wild guess.

    Hmm.. no idea. In my case I can feel them on my upper arm and upper thigh, but nowhere else as far as I'm aware. On my deloids I can easily feel all the different muscles fibres, but the biceps and triceps have them and hence I cannot feel the muscle fibres. Likewise, the big thigh muscles are packed tightly with them, but not my *kitten* and neither the muscles sideways right above the knee. They do feel like hard jelly, but are not really round but rather lentil-shaped.. well.. or like pearls packed tightly together. Almost makes me think of those stupid vibrators with rotating pearls from a few years back to be honest :D
  • greeniedgirl
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    I have multiple lipomas in my abdomen and some on my upper back where my bra strap is. I have seen multiple doctors, have had CT scans and MRI's and none of this imaging has proven to be helpful. There are many different forms of lipomas, mine hurt - DAILY! I stay in chronic pain in my abdomen and there are times when it's difficult to get through the day with a bra on due to the ones in my back. A year ago I opted to pay out of pocket for liposuction in my abdomen, hoping it would decrease my pain. The doctor stated he took out a liter of fat from my abdomen and he said there were tons (his words) of small lipomas in there. Three days after my surgery I started my period, which was way too soon. For the next 7 months I had 2 periods a month, I was literally in a hormonal nightmare. After much research and speaking with a holistic doctor he informed me that lipomas are fat and estrogen filled and it appeared that the surgery I opted to have spilled old estrogen into my system and it was having a hell of a time getting it out. Before I opted to have liposuction on my own, I had been told, after seeing the results of my CT scans and MRI's, I needed to consult with a therapist. I was pretty devastated because I am not a pill taker, nor a sympathy seeker. I wanted help and answers to why I hurt all day long. A few months ago a co-worker suggested I go see a chiropractor, at this point I am willing to try anything. He didn't know anything about them either but I let him x-ray me anyways. I was blown away when I saw the x-rays. They are not the clearest and definitely didn't capture all of them (I can palpate many-many more in my abdomen) but I finally felt justified!!. I have lipomas all the way down my sides, my pelvis, and my abdomen (we didn't x-ray my back). I will never have liposuction again, but I am interested in another consultation with a surgeon, and will suggest using x-ray imaging, to see if we can come up with an action plan to remove these. One thing I will state is that when I decrease or eliminate the use of gluten, soy, sugar and most dairy - the pain is minimal and I don't feel as swollen. I feel for anyone going through these, especially if they are painful. I know what it feels like to be told you're imagining things, pain, lumps, etc. Keep fighting for yourself, there will always be a skeptic, but thanks to those people it makes us push harder.

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  • JillianRN527
    JillianRN527 Posts: 109 Member
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    Get a massage! It helps with lymphatic drainage!
  • jnv7594
    jnv7594 Posts: 983 Member
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    Are they lipomas? I have a gigantic one in my lower back (MUCH bigger than a marble).

    ^ This. They are likely lipomas, which are benign fatty tumors. I have a huge one on my back near my shoulder blade. Most people don't notice it unless I tell them it's there, but I can see it and feel it. I about crapped when I first found it as I thought it was cancer, but so relieved it is benign. I have smaller ones too all over, and a medium sized one on my leg.
  • Zedeff
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    I have multiple lipomas in my abdomen and some on my upper back where my bra strap is. I have seen multiple doctors, have had CT scans and MRI's and none of this imaging has proven to be helpful. There are many different forms of lipomas, mine hurt - DAILY! I stay in chronic pain in my abdomen and there are times when it's difficult to get through the day with a bra on due to the ones in my back. A year ago I opted to pay out of pocket for liposuction in my abdomen, hoping it would decrease my pain. The doctor stated he took out a liter of fat from my abdomen and he said there were tons (his words) of small lipomas in there. Three days after my surgery I started my period, which was way too soon. For the next 7 months I had 2 periods a month, I was literally in a hormonal nightmare. After much research and speaking with a holistic doctor he informed me that lipomas are fat and estrogen filled and it appeared that the surgery I opted to have spilled old estrogen into my system and it was having a hell of a time getting it out. Before I opted to have liposuction on my own, I had been told, after seeing the results of my CT scans and MRI's, I needed to consult with a therapist. I was pretty devastated because I am not a pill taker, nor a sympathy seeker. I wanted help and answers to why I hurt all day long. A few months ago a co-worker suggested I go see a chiropractor, at this point I am willing to try anything. He didn't know anything about them either but I let him x-ray me anyways. I was blown away when I saw the x-rays. They are not the clearest and definitely didn't capture all of them (I can palpate many-many more in my abdomen) but I finally felt justified!!. I have lipomas all the way down my sides, my pelvis, and my abdomen (we didn't x-ray my back). I will never have liposuction again, but I am interested in another consultation with a surgeon, and will suggest using x-ray imaging, to see if we can come up with an action plan to remove these. One thing I will state is that when I decrease or eliminate the use of gluten, soy, sugar and most dairy - the pain is minimal and I don't feel as swollen. I feel for anyone going through these, especially if they are painful. I know what it feels like to be told you're imagining things, pain, lumps, etc. Keep fighting for yourself, there will always be a skeptic, but thanks to those people it makes us push harder.

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    Look, someone has to tell it to you like it is.

    First, liposuction isn't used to remove lipomas. You paid for a body sculpting procedure but if your goal was to remove lipomas, you bought the wrong thing. Lipomas are removed with open surgery, just like taking out a breast lump. You can certainly have lipomas removed if they're painful (such as the ones under your bra strap) but no real surgeon is going to remove "tons" of benign, symptomless masses for you. Surgery has risk, which in this case would outweigh the benefits.

    Second, your X-Rays showing "lipomas" are bunk. Those dark spots are gas bubbles in your colon, specifically the ascending colon in the blown up second image. This is a normal X-ray. Given that lipomas are fat, and fat covers every single inch of your body, you should not be surprised when I tell you that fat is not visible on an X-Ray; if it were visible on X-Rays, then X-Ray would be a useless test because all you'd ever see is fat covering everything else.

    Third, and on the subject of your X-Rays, you should really stop seeking treatment for this. Your description suggests that you've seen multiple physicians multiple times for the same problem resulting in multiple CT scans, MRIs, and X-Rays. The MRI is pretty safe (we think), but those CTs and plain films have radiation doses which are proven to contribute to cancers such as thyroid and breast cancer, as well as lymphoma. The more you ask for imaging, the more radiation you'll be exposed to, the greater your cumulative risk.

    Finally, lipomas don't cause abdominal pain, which is among your complaints. You may have abdominal pain and lipomas, but you certainly don't have abdominal pain because of lipomas. If all of your battery of testing has been negative, then the diagnoses of exclusion are things like fibromyalgia, irritable bowel syndrome, or somatization disorders. The treatment for many of these things includes therapy, which you've declined.

    I am a doctor, but I am not your doctor. Please consider this advice however before seeking more care for the wrong problem.
  • yirara
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    Zedeff wrote: »
    I have multiple lipomas in my abdomen and some on my upper back where my bra strap is. I have seen multiple doctors, have had CT scans and MRI's and none of this imaging has proven to be helpful. There are many different forms of lipomas, mine hurt - DAILY! I stay in chronic pain in my abdomen and there are times when it's difficult to get through the day with a bra on due to the ones in my back. A year ago I opted to pay out of pocket for liposuction in my abdomen, hoping it would decrease my pain. The doctor stated he took out a liter of fat from my abdomen and he said there were tons (his words) of small lipomas in there. Three days after my surgery I started my period, which was way too soon. For the next 7 months I had 2 periods a month, I was literally in a hormonal nightmare. After much research and speaking with a holistic doctor he informed me that lipomas are fat and estrogen filled and it appeared that the surgery I opted to have spilled old estrogen into my system and it was having a hell of a time getting it out. Before I opted to have liposuction on my own, I had been told, after seeing the results of my CT scans and MRI's, I needed to consult with a therapist. I was pretty devastated because I am not a pill taker, nor a sympathy seeker. I wanted help and answers to why I hurt all day long. A few months ago a co-worker suggested I go see a chiropractor, at this point I am willing to try anything. He didn't know anything about them either but I let him x-ray me anyways. I was blown away when I saw the x-rays. They are not the clearest and definitely didn't capture all of them (I can palpate many-many more in my abdomen) but I finally felt justified!!. I have lipomas all the way down my sides, my pelvis, and my abdomen (we didn't x-ray my back). I will never have liposuction again, but I am interested in another consultation with a surgeon, and will suggest using x-ray imaging, to see if we can come up with an action plan to remove these. One thing I will state is that when I decrease or eliminate the use of gluten, soy, sugar and most dairy - the pain is minimal and I don't feel as swollen. I feel for anyone going through these, especially if they are painful. I know what it feels like to be told you're imagining things, pain, lumps, etc. Keep fighting for yourself, there will always be a skeptic, but thanks to those people it makes us push harder.

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    Look, someone has to tell it to you like it is.

    First, liposuction isn't used to remove lipomas. You paid for a body sculpting procedure but if your goal was to remove lipomas, you bought the wrong thing. Lipomas are removed with open surgery, just like taking out a breast lump. You can certainly have lipomas removed if they're painful (such as the ones under your bra strap) but no real surgeon is going to remove "tons" of benign, symptomless masses for you. Surgery has risk, which in this case would outweigh the benefits.

    Second, your X-Rays showing "lipomas" are bunk. Those dark spots are gas bubbles in your colon, specifically the ascending colon in the blown up second image. This is a normal X-ray. Given that lipomas are fat, and fat covers every single inch of your body, you should not be surprised when I tell you that fat is not visible on an X-Ray; if it were visible on X-Rays, then X-Ray would be a useless test because all you'd ever see is fat covering everything else.

    Third, and on the subject of your X-Rays, you should really stop seeking treatment for this. Your description suggests that you've seen multiple physicians multiple times for the same problem resulting in multiple CT scans, MRIs, and X-Rays. The MRI is pretty safe (we think), but those CTs and plain films have radiation doses which are proven to contribute to cancers such as thyroid and breast cancer, as well as lymphoma. The more you ask for imaging, the more radiation you'll be exposed to, the greater your cumulative risk.

    Finally, lipomas don't cause abdominal pain, which is among your complaints. You may have abdominal pain and lipomas, but you certainly don't have abdominal pain because of lipomas. If all of your battery of testing has been negative, then the diagnoses of exclusion are things like fibromyalgia, irritable bowel syndrome, or somatization disorders. The treatment for many of these things includes therapy, which you've declined.

    I am a doctor, but I am not your doctor. Please consider this advice however before seeking more care for the wrong problem.

    Thanks a lot. I could not have worded it so well.
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
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    I'm not a doctor at all but if you have crazy periods like that and abdominal pain, maybe you should see a gynecologist. (unrelated to lipomas etc)
  • tomatoey
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    Zedeff wrote: »
    I have multiple lipomas in my abdomen and some on my upper back where my bra strap is. I have seen multiple doctors, have had CT scans and MRI's and none of this imaging has proven to be helpful. There are many different forms of lipomas, mine hurt - DAILY! I stay in chronic pain in my abdomen and there are times when it's difficult to get through the day with a bra on due to the ones in my back. A year ago I opted to pay out of pocket for liposuction in my abdomen, hoping it would decrease my pain. The doctor stated he took out a liter of fat from my abdomen and he said there were tons (his words) of small lipomas in there. Three days after my surgery I started my period, which was way too soon. For the next 7 months I had 2 periods a month, I was literally in a hormonal nightmare. After much research and speaking with a holistic doctor he informed me that lipomas are fat and estrogen filled and it appeared that the surgery I opted to have spilled old estrogen into my system and it was having a hell of a time getting it out. Before I opted to have liposuction on my own, I had been told, after seeing the results of my CT scans and MRI's, I needed to consult with a therapist. I was pretty devastated because I am not a pill taker, nor a sympathy seeker. I wanted help and answers to why I hurt all day long. A few months ago a co-worker suggested I go see a chiropractor, at this point I am willing to try anything. He didn't know anything about them either but I let him x-ray me anyways. I was blown away when I saw the x-rays. They are not the clearest and definitely didn't capture all of them (I can palpate many-many more in my abdomen) but I finally felt justified!!. I have lipomas all the way down my sides, my pelvis, and my abdomen (we didn't x-ray my back). I will never have liposuction again, but I am interested in another consultation with a surgeon, and will suggest using x-ray imaging, to see if we can come up with an action plan to remove these. One thing I will state is that when I decrease or eliminate the use of gluten, soy, sugar and most dairy - the pain is minimal and I don't feel as swollen. I feel for anyone going through these, especially if they are painful. I know what it feels like to be told you're imagining things, pain, lumps, etc. Keep fighting for yourself, there will always be a skeptic, but thanks to those people it makes us push harder.

    wz28dveu9eci.jpg
    vm5pkf72d7l2.jpg

    Look, someone has to tell it to you like it is.

    First, liposuction isn't used to remove lipomas. You paid for a body sculpting procedure but if your goal was to remove lipomas, you bought the wrong thing. Lipomas are removed with open surgery, just like taking out a breast lump. You can certainly have lipomas removed if they're painful (such as the ones under your bra strap) but no real surgeon is going to remove "tons" of benign, symptomless masses for you. Surgery has risk, which in this case would outweigh the benefits.

    Second, your X-Rays showing "lipomas" are bunk. Those dark spots are gas bubbles in your colon, specifically the ascending colon in the blown up second image. This is a normal X-ray. Given that lipomas are fat, and fat covers every single inch of your body, you should not be surprised when I tell you that fat is not visible on an X-Ray; if it were visible on X-Rays, then X-Ray would be a useless test because all you'd ever see is fat covering everything else.

    Third, and on the subject of your X-Rays, you should really stop seeking treatment for this. Your description suggests that you've seen multiple physicians multiple times for the same problem resulting in multiple CT scans, MRIs, and X-Rays. The MRI is pretty safe (we think), but those CTs and plain films have radiation doses which are proven to contribute to cancers such as thyroid and breast cancer, as well as lymphoma. The more you ask for imaging, the more radiation you'll be exposed to, the greater your cumulative risk.

    Finally, lipomas don't cause abdominal pain, which is among your complaints. You may have abdominal pain and lipomas, but you certainly don't have abdominal pain because of lipomas. If all of your battery of testing has been negative, then the diagnoses of exclusion are things like fibromyalgia, irritable bowel syndrome, or somatization disorders. The treatment for many of these things includes therapy, which you've declined.

    I am a doctor, but I am not your doctor. Please consider this advice however before seeking more care for the wrong problem.

    This was a kind thing to do (not sarcastic).
  • greeniedgirl
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    I would like to address some of the things in your reply to me:

    1. I have had several lipomas removed surgically. I researched this for quite some time and found that some treatments for lipomas involved liposuction. The contents of my liposuction were tested and positive for lipomas. As I stated in my first post, the doctor said there were literally tons of them in my abdomen. The decision to do this surgery was not made lightly. It took me 2 years to finally decide to give it a try. I will never do that again. I do not know why mine have not shown up on the MRI or CT scan. All I can say is I have had 15 surgically removed ranging from the size of a quarter to the inside of the palm of my hand. All biopsied, all lipomas.

    2. Your comment on lipomas not causing pain is just wrong. They can press on nerves, there are also several conditions surrounding lipomas especially the painful ones. It would really be nice if more doctors educated themselves about this. The pain I have is sometimes unbearable, and yes it comes and goes. I am usually at a 4 all day long and then there are times when my entire abdomen, sides and back sit at an 8 for hours at a time or the pain rotates. Pain medication does not help, and to reiterate, I am not a pill taker anyways. I’ve had 6 surgeries through my abdomen over the course of my 40 years. One when I was 18 months old to re-route my ureters, one when I was 17 to remove my cyst covered ovary and 4 C-sections (over the course of 13 years). It has been suggested that these lipomas could be the cause of so many surgeries through my abdomen. Again, no one knows.

    3. The multiple doctors were 3 plastic surgeons I visited trying to find the most knowledgeable one. It was 2 of the plastic surgeons who suggested therapy. Thankfully I found one and he was willing to do a biopsy and we went from there. Either way, I took the advice of the other surgeons and decided to give therapy a try. I started with a traditional therapist and then moved into body talk therapy. I highly recommend this to everyone; it is amazing! I understand where your comment comes from, it’s a typical one. If in fact you are a doctor, I am sure you’ve seen many people who are just out there for the medications or sympathy (hypochondriac). If you knew me, you would know that I am a very stable, very strong woman. I just HATE how I hurt all the time, but I move forward anyway.

    4. I have had 2 MRI’s, 2 CT scans and 1 X-ray in the past 6 years. I already decided 2 months ago, after the x-rays I posted, to just halt everything for a while and work on my overall health. As far as the x-rays being pockets of gas, my doctor suggested this as well (I took my x-rays to him). So, yes, you are correct. With that said, we palpated these “pocket” areas and I have multiple masses in those locations. No, not all of them, but still. Again, yes, you are correct; the only way to remove them is another surgical procedure. So my doctor is having a radiologist review them (since these came from a chiropractor) without me having to go have more x-rays done. Currently, I am working on my overall wellbeing. As usual, I will take my time to digest where I need to go from here. I am grateful my doctor, who has been my PCP for over 10 years, takes the time to listen. He knows me well and everything I have done has been with his guidance.

    5. I appreciate the shock value in your message. Maybe next time you respond to someone’s post, maybe don’t respond to them like they are an idiot. I am very insightful and know that there is a link between the body and the brain. Still looking for my damn link in my abdomen though.. HA! Your message did prove a good point and helped me see the dangers in the multiple imaging. I have been so busy trying to figure out how to live pain free, again over the course of 6 years, I forgot that the things that are there to help you can also hinder you. I re-read my post and realized my explanations of things were brief. I can see how it looked to everyone. I had actually typed up a more in depth explanation of my background to post last time but my computer froze and I lost everything. Since I was working, I re-typed something as quick as I could. More so because I was frustrated when I read a members post and another member responded to them telling them that lipomas do not hurt. It was at least something that I thought would maybe be helpful and encouraging, especially to those who experience pain with these.

    I hope I have explained this in a manner that’s easier to understand. I really do appreciate you taking the time to respond to my post.
  • djdd1981
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    Hey everyone if you have lipomas that are causing you alot of grief, look into dercum's disease or adiposis dolorosa. Hope this helps
  • djdd1981
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    Especially if they only show up in ultrasounds and nothing else. Causes many horrible symptoms. Effects your immune system too. Theres many support groups. If your told you are crazy by doctors be happy to know you are far from crazy or alone. Wish all the best to you
  • UltimateMedu
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    I've actually had these balls under my arms for a long time, but never thought of it. There's quite a bit bunched up under each arm. If I push into the fat in my arms, I can feel about 5-10 on my thumb (they're that tiny)