Is Diet Coke actually Satan?
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MamaBirdBoss wrote: »daniwilford wrote: »My brothers Urologist claimed the caramel color can cause kidney stones. Kidney stones don't kill you, they just make you writhe in pain, puke your guts out and pee pink.
And my uncle the surgeon thought that aspirating peanuts in small children causes poisoning. He was wrong. It's medical folklore.
It ain't.
There is an increased risk with caramel colors, and with tea, and a whole bunch of things.
But in reality it's a very small small risk when you drink in moderation. As usual.0 -
jennifer_417 wrote: »I drink Diet Mtn Dew, and as far as I can tell, it has not hindered my weight loss. I don't know if it does increase cravings or not, but here's the thing: we're fully in control of our actions, and just because we have a craving, doesn't mean we have to give into it.
I tend to think that it is associated with obesity because drinking a lot of soda is generally associated with an unhealthy lifestyle, which often leads to obesity.
Yes. This is exactly what the medical studies on the subject state, if one reads the articles rather than merely scanning the headline (which is all that so many people do nowadays.) In other words, they claim that correlation does equal causation, which is bad science verging on voodoo.
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stevencloser wrote: »The thing about found "links" is...
... I'm well aware of the nature of links. My choice of one news article to introduce the subject was one made of a desire to be brief, not to convince.
One can choose to look at artificially sweetened products as benign from the strict perspective of caloric content. For a majority of members at MFP that might be ok, provided they are using diet beverages as one component of an overall calorie intake reduction strategy. But for some continuing to feed an addiction to sweet things leads to poor outcomes and they'd be better breaking off breaking their habit or learning to moderate. Feeding a sweet tooth doesn't seem to me to be a good way of doing that.
But to assume or promote artificially sweetened products as benign overall, based on what I've read out simply out of personal curiosity, that's a bridge too far for me to cross.
Disclaimer: I'm not a regular soda drinker or addicted to sweets but if I'm going to have a soda, regular please.
If feeding your sweet tooth with artificial sweeteners keeps you from eating stuff that actually has calories then it's only positives.0 -
In other words, they claim that correlation does equal causation, which is bad science verging on voodoo.
Funny side note: voodoo actually works. That is, only if you truly believe in it. If you believe stabbing a doll that resembles yourself will hurt, it will actually hurt. The placebo effect can be very strong. That's why I believe beer is the healthiest substance known to man
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It is................................................if you like Diet Pepsi better.
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Every time I see this thread, I take a swig of Coke and smile.0
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ScreeField wrote: »In other words, they claim that correlation does equal causation, which is bad science verging on voodoo.
Funny side note: voodoo actually works. That is, only if you truly believe in it. If you believe stabbing a doll that resembles yourself will hurt, it will actually hurt. The placebo effect can be very strong. That's why I believe beer is the healthiest substance known to man
But you're supposed to be stabbing someone else in secret.
No placebo effect there! 0 -
ScreeField wrote: »
Funny side note: voodoo actually works. That is, only if you truly believe in it. If you believe stabbing a doll that resembles yourself will hurt, it will actually hurt. The placebo effect can be very strong. That's why I believe beer is the healthiest substance known to man
It sure does. This is why I wrote "voodoo" (i.e. the pop-culture superstition) rather than "Vodoun" (the actual religion).
This IMO is why junk science is dangerous and not just pernicious. Because in the right gullible person, belief can potentially feed the Nocebo Effect.
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MamaBirdBoss wrote: »But you're supposed to be stabbing someone else in secret. No placebo effect there!
You could test it by making a doll of someone else and stabbing them in secret. You'd know it worked because the very next bad thing that happened to them was certainly caused by your actions 0 -
I love diet coke I don't think it affects my diet I think sometimes it helps. When I'm hungry and it's half an hour until lunchtime I drink some of the sweet nectar and I'm fine - my PT however, thinks it is satan and describes it as toilet cleaner0
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Parents: I am just wondering but would you allow your little boy or girl to drink diet soda every day?
Parents who would allow: I'd like to suggest you do a long term study on the effects (if any) for drinking diet soda in children. For the sake of proving your point of course, that diet soda is harmless.0 -
Swiftlet66 wrote: »Parents: I am just wondering but would you allow your little boy or girl to drink diet soda every day?
when I was a kid I drank coke, jolt, mountain dew, diet coke etc…..did I drink it every day, no, but I drank it regularly and came out fine.
and nice straw man about letting kids drink diet soda everyday….why don't you just ask if people would feed their kids a diet of 100% twinkies every day too …
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Swiftlet66 wrote: »Parents: I am just wondering but would you allow your little boy or girl to drink diet soda every day?
I wouldn't allow my child to drink any kind of soda every day. It is reserved for a treat or when eating out. When they were old enough to spend their own money and make their own choices I let them do their thing.
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Swiftlet66 wrote: »Parents: I am just wondering but would you allow your little boy or girl to drink diet soda every day?
Parents who would allow: I'd like to suggest you do a long term study on the effects (if any) for drinking diet soda in children. For the sake of proving your point of course, that diet soda is harmless.
Mine are allowed to drink what they want. They usually choose juice or water. *shrug*0 -
I enjoy a can of diet coke now and then after work. Moderation is the name of the game. If you gulp down 64 oz a day you're going to have a bad time, like with any other sodium rich food.0
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soo where did we land on that whole satan thing0
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Double blind study issue? I can see that.ScreeField wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »But you're supposed to be stabbing someone else in secret. No placebo effect there!
You could test it by making a doll of someone else and stabbing them in secret. You'd know it worked because the very next bad thing that happened to them was certainly caused by your actions
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Swiftlet66 wrote: »Parents: I am just wondering but would you allow your little boy or girl to drink diet soda every day?
when I was a kid I drank coke, jolt, mountain dew, diet coke etc…..did I drink it every day, no, but I drank it regularly and came out fine.
and nice straw man about letting kids drink diet soda everyday….why don't you just ask if people would feed their kids a diet of 100% twinkies every day too …
Yeah, I didn't want to mention this, but you died five years ago. This is actually a forum for people that can see dead people...'s posts.0
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